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Why did I laugh to-night? No voice will tell
No God, no Demon of severe response,
Deigns to reply from Heaven or from Hell
Then to my human heart I turn at once:
Heart! Thou and I are here sad and alone;
I say, why did I laugh? O mortal pain!
O Darkness! Darkness! ever must I moan,
To question Heaven and Hell and Heart in vain.
Why did I laugh? I know this Being's lease,
My fancy to its utmost blisses spreads;
Yet would I on this very midnight cease,
And all the world's gaudy ensigns see in shreds;
Verse, Fame, and Beauty are intense indeed,
But Death intenser -- Death is Life's high meed.

-John Keats
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changing dimensions is motivated emotional negotiation as in:
reason to change must fit (satisfy) that which you change into

that being said there is up, down, left and right in all dimensions but no ceiling, floor or walls
so you never need to change dimension to never experience the same thing twice
but you do need to change dimension when your motive for being within a dimension expires, which is always at the dimensions determination
 Quoting: aether


on the day we entered
feedback began to map that which we enter
warning:
geek speak commencing tounge

All particles of matter are made up of several charges, perhaps thousands. The degree to which they align and resonate determines what we term the magnetic dipole strength. Since they are present in all matter, all matter has a magnetic moment, including tree bark and you, its strength merely dependent upon the molecular bonds, how each atom (multiple charges aligning) align and resonate. When you apply heat to a magnet, you excite the atoms, the charges move faster and less align, causing collapse of the magnetic field if the temperature reaches high enough. Yet it will still retain an internal dipole moment as long as the chemical bonds are not broken by excessive heat, at which point the material can no longer be magnetized and destruction of the magnet occurs. The same with all electric fields. As conductors (particles that contain charges) move in relation to one another, they align, creating what we term current and magnetic fields. No alignment, no current, no external magnetic field, just individual dipoles internal to each particle. But notice how even with CERN and the so called Higgs Bosun, the particles smashed together reformed into their constituent parts because there was not enough heat present to disassociate all chemical bonds. It took milliseconds for them to reform not hours because all that is needed is alignment of the charges, not actual movement across the voids. The same with current, it needs merely alignment to transfer vast distances almost instantly, there needs no particle transfer across the vastness of space.
But in all cases when the electric current ceases, the magnetic field ceases as well as alignment is no longer occurring between conductors, which has nothing to do with each individual conductors internal charges aligning or not to create its magnetic moment. As to what actually carries the magnetic force, that is another subject entirely, but it is transverse waves, verses the longitudinal waves that transfer energy, not to be confused with current. Current is the process of energy transfer, not the actual end result.
So am I positing an electric charge with no B field? You bet I am, because until those individual charges align and resonate together, no dipole exists, there exists only longitudinal waves until then, at which point transverse waves are created. In a wire electrons do not flow, they merely resonate, vibrate back and forth in tune with the others, longitudinal waves which transfer the energy. But because in a wire it is traveling through matter, transverse waves are also created and a magnetic field forms. Transverse waves from so-called point sources travel in a spiral fashion, hence the magnetic fields ability to alter the course of particles, but not their velocity. The byproduct, EMF is what we measure (transverse waves). [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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and

Where did comets come from? The same z-pinch that brought the planets into a line. We've talked in this thread about how at z-pinch,all the charge (sun, planets,plasma column just as Talbott describes), funnels into that narrow stream,along the current filament. Well, as we talked about in the "Is This Marklund Convection" thread, the mere funneling of all this charged material into a z-pinch, is going to lead to an intense production of neutral matter which is ejected radially from the filament. The comet material is "born in fire" as Wal Thornhill says, but BECOMES charged as it travels through the sun's field.
This is going to help us answer a lot of questions. 1. Obviously,the intense heat at comet formation. 2.The abundance of comets. Since comets do get "used up", we either need some source of replenishment (Oort Cloud), OR we can say that they were produced as recently as that last, obviously recorded,z-pinch. 3. While planets must have evolved into their current orbits, we don't need to explain how comets got into those highly elliptical orbits in the same time. They were ejected into those orbits when the rest of the system was still coaxial/collinear. 4. The cometary compositions of minerals formed at thousands of degrees are going to be easy to explain in this model. This is the most telling of all. Anorthite and diopside aren't formed in collisions in space,or even ejected from the fissioning of a gas giant. They are formed in the particle accelerator that is z-pinch
Neutral matter does not get funneled into z-pinch. Neutral matter is created and ejected at z-pinch. That is how comets are born. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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Why did I laugh to-night? No voice will tell
No God, no Demon of severe response,
Deigns to reply from Heaven or from Hell
Then to my human heart I turn at once:
Heart! Thou and I are here sad and alone;
I say, why did I laugh? O mortal pain!
O Darkness! Darkness! ever must I moan,
To question Heaven and Hell and Heart in vain.
Why did I laugh? I know this Being's lease,
My fancy to its utmost blisses spreads;
Yet would I on this very midnight cease,
And all the world's gaudy ensigns see in shreds;
Verse, Fame, and Beauty are intense indeed,
But Death intenser -- Death is Life's high meed.

-John Keats
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no faith in what was believed
unable to image alternative
prepared them self to find by finding out

honest rhyme

lovely
thank you for posting
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The myth tells how in the beginning there was nothing but Apsu, the sweet waters underground, and Tiamat, the sea, mingling their waters together. In these waters the first gods came into being, and generation followed generation. The gods represented energy and activity and thus differed markedly from Apsu and Tiamat, who stood for rest and inertia. True to their nature the gods gathered to dance, and in so doing, surging back and forth, they disturbed the insides of Tiamat. Finally, Apsu’s patience was at an end, and he thought of doing away with the gods, but Tiamat, as a true mother, demurred at destroying her own offspring. Apsu, however, did not swerve from his decision, and he was encouraged in this by his page Mummu, “the original (watery) form.” When the youngest of the gods, the clever Ea (Sumerian: Enki), heard about the planned attack he forestalled it by means of a powerful spell with which he poured slumber on Apsu, killed him, and built his temple over him. He seized Mummu and held him captive by a nose rope. [link to history-world.org]

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Why did I laugh to-night? No voice will tell
No God, no Demon of severe response,
Deigns to reply from Heaven or from Hell
Then to my human heart I turn at once:
Heart! Thou and I are here sad and alone;
I say, why did I laugh? O mortal pain!
O Darkness! Darkness! ever must I moan,
To question Heaven and Hell and Heart in vain.
Why did I laugh? I know this Being's lease,
My fancy to its utmost blisses spreads;
Yet would I on this very midnight cease,
And all the world's gaudy ensigns see in shreds;
Verse, Fame, and Beauty are intense indeed,
But Death intenser -- Death is Life's high meed.

-John Keats
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no faith in what was believed
unable to image alternative
prepared them self to find by finding out

honest rhyme

lovely
thank you for posting
 Quoting: aether


:)


That you Yetsirah?

hmm


hf
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~Seneca
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Why did I laugh to-night? No voice will tell
No God, no Demon of severe response,
Deigns to reply from Heaven or from Hell
Then to my human heart I turn at once:
Heart! Thou and I are here sad and alone;
I say, why did I laugh? O mortal pain!
O Darkness! Darkness! ever must I moan,
To question Heaven and Hell and Heart in vain.
Why did I laugh? I know this Being's lease,
My fancy to its utmost blisses spreads;
Yet would I on this very midnight cease,
And all the world's gaudy ensigns see in shreds;
Verse, Fame, and Beauty are intense indeed,
But Death intenser -- Death is Life's high meed.

-John Keats
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no faith in what was believed
unable to image alternative
prepared them self to find by finding out

honest rhyme

lovely
thank you for posting
 Quoting: aether


:)


That you Yetsirah?

hmm


hf
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Nope. Just a long time lurker posting now and then hf
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Nope. Just a long time lurker posting now and then hf
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:)

Thank you for answering.



Your contribution triggered intense deja vu for some reason...

hf

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Nope. Just a long time lurker posting now and then hf
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:)

Thank you for answering.



Your contribution triggered intense deja vu for some reason...

hf
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Well, since I'm a long time lurker and we already exchanged in the past, maybe it's not that surprising ;p
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The myth tells how in the beginning there was nothing but Apsu, the sweet waters underground, and Tiamat, the sea, mingling their waters together. In these waters the first gods came into being, and generation followed generation. The gods represented energy and activity and thus differed markedly from Apsu and Tiamat, who stood for rest and inertia. True to their nature the gods gathered to dance, and in so doing, surging back and forth, they disturbed the insides of Tiamat. Finally, Apsu’s patience was at an end, and he thought of doing away with the gods, but Tiamat, as a true mother, demurred at destroying her own offspring. Apsu, however, did not swerve from his decision, and he was encouraged in this by his page Mummu, “the original (watery) form.” When the youngest of the gods, the clever Ea (Sumerian: Enki), heard about the planned attack he forestalled it by means of a powerful spell with which he poured slumber on Apsu, killed him, and built his temple over him. He seized Mummu and held him captive by a nose rope.
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the local hero of local mother was seen to have defeated the chaos believed to have been caused by the non locals
remembering we lived as gods in past era`s so generation upon generation of gods is us locals
the youngest is the last in line hence youngest
now superimpose this /z\ over this \z/

so it looks like we can date our ancient structures

those that align only to our now pole star were constructed when saturn and other planets where in polar configuration thus when that changed all pointed to what remained to be seen in our universe at our pole

those that align to sunrise and sunset plus star configurations we can see in our universe were constructed after saturn left

now the question remains where some constructed with forethought alignment of what was to come

i guess we will discover as we proceed
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whoa i just remembered:

Two ancient cultures, the people of the pyramid and the people of the spiral. One built the pyramids, and formed agricultural societies with monarchs atop a pyramidal legal, social, and economic structure.

The people of the spiral built Stonehenge and many other megalithic structures that reflect spirals, circles, etc. Their social and economic arrangements were VERY different from the pyramidists or triangle types. But history is written (and covered up) by the victors, so we know little about the details of the circularists.



I've heard reference to the "circularists" concept and found it funny to run into this comment reading thru some older threads.
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wow aruna !!

2 cultures because two era`s?....two different times

which was built within our golden age and which was built as a result of our golden age going or.......fuck....MEMORY...when i re moted once back into...into when....i don`t know but i do know what i saw.....pyramids, humans and non humans and i remoted to a time when the humans had blamed the non humans for their mis fortune..there was not much, if anything the humans could do other than what i witnessed, which was steal a young non human and cause anguish to it`s parents...parents whom were equally at ease underwater and above water, as their structure of breathing is different in function to humans
what i witnessed and knew was, that it was not the non humans fault, it was natural causes beyond their ability to effect that cause the change but the humans believed, because the non humans had always lived amongst them and for ever there had been only good times, that when times changed, it must be the fault of the non humans whom they attributed the good times to because the non humans possessed the ability to leave and avoid the "bad" times , cause misunderstanding and resentment,
the child being stolen was a symbol to the non humans that their time of visible presence was over until it was time to meet again...

wow...that was memory aruna...clever post of yours rockon
 Quoting: aether 1187276

Thread: The field of HUMAN ENERGY (Page 48)

now what story line was i interacting with
for some reason it is emotionally difficult to read my post so i will come back to that
yes
something emotive attached to that which i was not effected by then as i am now
seems to be the difference between looking and being
as i write this as in:
we are into thus experiencing as it was then from the "other side" or as it was then
yes it`s this alien sensation again and it is feeling it from the point of view of that which feels alien
okay
we will come back to that

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it is still an emotional topic and tearful to remote back to
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In the ensuing encounter with Tiamat’s forces Kingu and his army lost heart when they saw Marduk. Only Tiamat stood her ground, seeking first to throw him off his guard by flattery about his quick rise to leadership, but Marduk angrily denounced her and the older generation: “The sons [had to] withdraw [for] the fathers were acting treacherously, and [now] you, who gave birth to them, bear malice to the offspring.” At this Tiamat, furious, attacked, but Marduk loosed the winds against her, pierced her heart with an arrow, and killed her. Kingu and the gods who had sided with her he took captive.

So the younger generation acted out against the older generation because the older was deluging the younger?
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:universegateway:
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Could you do me a favor love?

I am being pulled toward a post of yours from either yesterday or the day before, where you were recounting being 'filled' with God's energy during your lucid states.

Could you locate that for me?

:)



:illuminated1:
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hmm

Let me see if I can find it.
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The phrase Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States
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'Ordo Seclorum' has a value of 1369.
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tounge
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A Coincidence
'Ordo Seclorum' has a value of 1369. This is suspicious as it is also the value of the letters giving the date MDCCLXXVI (1776 when counted as Roman numerals). 1369 is an important number for it represents 37 squared - and 37 is the keystone of sacred geometry in the Bible (and elsewhere). The fact that we have a square number at the base of the pyramid seems very fitting - a solid foundation. The number 37 may also signify the Hebrew words 'AVL' and 'GDL'. 'AVL' means strength, or a powerful person. 'GDL' means power or majesty. Both of these words aptly describe the potent god Seb.

In Hebrew the number 1369 very importantly denotes the phrase VRVCh ALHIM MRChPhTh AaL PhNI HMIM - 'And the spirit of God moved on the face of the waters' (Gen. 1,2). This maintains the theme of divine creation.
[link to www.masoncode.com]

:nacholibre:

lol
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Well, since I'm a long time lurker and we already exchanged in the past, maybe it's not that surprising ;p
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Yes well...your Belgium 'flag' got my attention...

Thank you for being honest regarding your 'not' identity.

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it is still an emotional topic and tearful to remote back to
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sounds like it, when you feel ready toflower
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Is this it, Seer?

What is it that this person does within dream world that causes so much ripple? Is "He" manifesting his dream world into reality or what is it that exactlly is being done to cause these ripples/actions?
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I do not know. I have my own experiences with such things and can understand it a bit. For one, if you master lucid dreaming and travel through the astral, there are many hidden secrets within those 'places'. Logically, you can look at it as going consciously into the subconscious and supraconscious. Then, we can add Carl Jung's work on mass consciousness and the secrets that can be reached are mind-numbing in proportion.

Add that to the idea that he has the ability to have 'god' flow through him, then he can go on autopilot by releasing himself to the flow. This has been talked about by using intuition to the waking mind. But, if he can use all these abilities within the 'dream' state, or non-material, then he would be unstoppable.

The non-material manifests our material universe.

Reality is much bigger than it seems. The material universe is a mere shadow in comparison to the non-material...and both are infinite, lol. Experiences are infinitely more 'varied' in the non-material. There is only one material universe.
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In the ensuing encounter with Tiamat’s forces Kingu and his army lost heart when they saw Marduk. Only Tiamat stood her ground, seeking first to throw him off his guard by flattery about his quick rise to leadership, but Marduk angrily denounced her and the older generation: “The sons [had to] withdraw [for] the fathers were acting treacherously, and [now] you, who gave birth to them, bear malice to the offspring.” At this Tiamat, furious, attacked, but Marduk loosed the winds against her, pierced her heart with an arrow, and killed her. Kingu and the gods who had sided with her he took captive.

So the younger generation acted out against the older generation because the older was deluging the younger?
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it seems like this
for ever we locals lived idyllic lives which looking back by our much later offspring is described as living like gods

living on earth with us were at least 1 and likely more non local origin people whom liked living here among us and they
possessed the know how to come and go into a universe we never ever imagined existed because our earth was cocooned within saturns plasma sheath

when things began to alter environmentally we locals began to suffer/alter and the non locals whom could come and go did not because they could and did leave within the bad times which we know occurred quite often during the realignment period forming into our now current solar system

it appears within this changing environmental era at least some of our local women mated with non local origin people for the benefit of all future local people
this had a mixed emotional impact on local males

it seems after a while many locals become convinced the realignment causes of our altering environment was the caused by the unaffected visitors whom came and went during these times

that broadly is where we have got to and we anticipate expanding into the details over our coming two years
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Is this it, Seer?

What is it that this person does within dream world that causes so much ripple? Is "He" manifesting his dream world into reality or what is it that exactlly is being done to cause these ripples/actions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30814723


I do not know. I have my own experiences with such things and can understand it a bit. For one, if you master lucid dreaming and travel through the astral, there are many hidden secrets within those 'places'. Logically, you can look at it as going consciously into the subconscious and supraconscious. Then, we can add Carl Jung's work on mass consciousness and the secrets that can be reached are mind-numbing in proportion.

Add that to the idea that he has the ability to have 'god' flow through him, then he can go on autopilot by releasing himself to the flow. This has been talked about by using intuition to the waking mind. But, if he can use all these abilities within the 'dream' state, or non-material, then he would be unstoppable.

The non-material manifests our material universe.

Reality is much bigger than it seems. The material universe is a mere shadow in comparison to the non-material...and both are infinite, lol. Experiences are infinitely more 'varied' in the non-material. There is only one material universe.
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Yes.

I may be getting this one mingled tounge with another you wrote, where I believe you mentioned being 'filled' with this energy.

Also, the topic of 'dream bridging' is coming back to me.

Interesting...

hmm
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it is still an emotional topic and tearful to remote back to
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sounds like it, when you feel ready toflower
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yes i`m fine
it`s the initial adjustment and my altering empathy

i notice

it is not my emotions
it is the emotions in our fields of the topics
this one carries more than most and it appears to be the women (locals)

like damned if they did
dammed if they did not
but in their hearts they know they did best
but
the ones they love the most
and the ones they did it for
their children become menfolk
are the ones it hurt most

is the sensation

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it is still an emotional topic and tearful to remote back to
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sounds like it, when you feel ready toflower
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yes i`m fine
it`s the initial adjustment and my altering empathy

i notice

it is not my emotions
it is the emotions in our fields of the topics
this one carries more than most and it appears to be the women (locals)

like damned if they did
dammed if they did not
but in their hearts they know they did best
but
the ones they love the most
and the ones they did it for
their children become menfolk
are the ones it hurt most

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


thus it hurts the women most
because they know
until their menfolk no longer hurt
they themselves can never not hurt
and it has been a long hurtful wait
to get to here
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Is this it, Seer?

What is it that this person does within dream world that causes so much ripple? Is "He" manifesting his dream world into reality or what is it that exactlly is being done to cause these ripples/actions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30814723


I do not know. I have my own experiences with such things and can understand it a bit. For one, if you master lucid dreaming and travel through the astral, there are many hidden secrets within those 'places'. Logically, you can look at it as going consciously into the subconscious and supraconscious. Then, we can add Carl Jung's work on mass consciousness and the secrets that can be reached are mind-numbing in proportion.

Add that to the idea that he has the ability to have 'god' flow through him, then he can go on autopilot by releasing himself to the flow. This has been talked about by using intuition to the waking mind. But, if he can use all these abilities within the 'dream' state, or non-material, then he would be unstoppable.

The non-material manifests our material universe.

Reality is much bigger than it seems. The material universe is a mere shadow in comparison to the non-material...and both are infinite, lol. Experiences are infinitely more 'varied' in the non-material. There is only one material universe.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes.

I may be getting this one mingled tounge with another you wrote, where I believe you mentioned being 'filled' with this energy.

Also, the topic of 'dream bridging' is coming back to me.

Interesting...

hmm
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I think I remember the other one you are thinking of, but I have NO clue where it would be on GLP.

I have been filled with this energy many times, but I would have described it as not necessarily being filled, but flowing fully through. Somebody said it was like a cup being filled and I said, no, it would be like an hourglass with the tops and bottoms cut off and a full continuous flow of sand going through. This image brings to mind a 'funnel' like construct that is 'inside' us, but that is inaccurate as well. We would FULLY have the energy flow through all parts of us, including your aura, etc. with no bottleneck anywhere. At this point, it would truly be a pure conduit...but one without boundaries.

I have a vision in my head right now, but am finding that I am restricting it's expression by using words like hourglass and conduit, for those have boundaries. This does not, until the point of 'using' the energy.
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Is this it, Seer?

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I do not know. I have my own experiences with such things and can understand it a bit. For one, if you master lucid dreaming and travel through the astral, there are many hidden secrets within those 'places'. Logically, you can look at it as going consciously into the subconscious and supraconscious. Then, we can add Carl Jung's work on mass consciousness and the secrets that can be reached are mind-numbing in proportion.

Add that to the idea that he has the ability to have 'god' flow through him, then he can go on autopilot by releasing himself to the flow. This has been talked about by using intuition to the waking mind. But, if he can use all these abilities within the 'dream' state, or non-material, then he would be unstoppable.

The non-material manifests our material universe.

Reality is much bigger than it seems. The material universe is a mere shadow in comparison to the non-material...and both are infinite, lol. Experiences are infinitely more 'varied' in the non-material. There is only one material universe.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yes.

I may be getting this one mingled tounge with another you wrote, where I believe you mentioned being 'filled' with this energy.

Also, the topic of 'dream bridging' is coming back to me.

Interesting...

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I think I remember the other one you are thinking of, but I have NO clue where it would be on GLP.

I have been filled with this energy many times, but I would have described it as not necessarily being filled, but flowing fully through. Somebody said it was like a cup being filled and I said, no, it would be like an hourglass with the tops and bottoms cut off and a full continuous flow of sand going through. This image brings to mind a 'funnel' like construct that is 'inside' us, but that is inaccurate as well. We would FULLY have the energy flow through all parts of us, including your aura, etc. with no bottleneck anywhere. At this point, it would truly be a pure conduit...but one without boundaries.

I have a vision in my head right now, but am finding that I am restricting it's expression by using words like hourglass and conduit, for those have boundaries. This does not, until the point of 'using' the energy.
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Yes, that is when it becomes effortless. :)


I am glad the hourglass got brought up, as I have been thinking on it often. I saw the triangles come together in meditation yesterday.

Starting as an hourglass shape, the merging down and up, and together.


That is what I see when I look at this image...

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Here is a follow up to that post, Seer.

Aren't you already unstoppable in the lucid dreamworld?
or maybe it is just in your own lucid dreamworld that you hold all the power, if you transcend to someone elses they hold the power in their own domain, maybe ?

"Using intuition" in a lucid dream would come naturally with experience I think, just like in the "real world"

btw I found that when going lucid, it seems so much easier from a dream than from the sleep paralysis state, it's completely different, going from dream to lucid is like a flow, but from paralysis to lucid is a struggle and still feels clunky even when lucid.
maybe the awareness state you are in at the time when you realise you can go lucid is a factor, I love the whole topic of lucidity :D

what are your experiences Sap? or Sept, hmm SM?
was easier when I could use SS :D
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You are unstoppable only within your own personal localized field. You shift around, not really transcend. It is like changing your energy signature to match another and there is a 'shift'. The change of energy signature is purely emotional/intuitive.

Yes, about the intuition thing. But for most it is extremely difficult to fully utilize it. Also, there is a way to shift between using consciously made decisions and intuitive usage which I use. Then, there is also a way to use both at the same time, but I'm not sure if I can describe that properly.

I have had a ton of experiences. I have put some here: Thread: HourGlass

I naturally go lucid now and can do it every night if I wish. I can do WILDs, that is Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming, where there is no loss or disconnect in consciousness when I enter the sleep state to dream state. OBE's, astral travel, etc., etc. Lucid dreaming is the easiest way to do any of these things. It is the perfect launch pad. Also, it is a foundational tool in mastering all other altered states (obe, astral, etc.)

Michael, please just always call me SS.

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Synch may be speeding up a bit.

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Thread: HourGlass

XXX, you touched upon the final words of this before...I am beginning to feel it more often now, though it is of a different nature than I expected...you know who I talk to about this, so you know who wrote it (and envisioned it) about me...sweet, sweet synchronicities...she had this vision/experience on April 12, 2008

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>>>> It is amazing how I can sense your mood thru your emails, even in the most simplest of writings you are able to convey yourself. I decided to take some time and meditate into your energy field again, hoping to help unlock the answers you search for. As before I am amazed at what I sense. Beware Chad, this is an experiment on my part, I know not the validity of the information I receive. If it does not make sense throw it out. If it is of interest keep it. I need not explain it to those whom can not understand, so only share with others of like mind. I shall try my best to describe the experience of being in your energy field.

Imagine you are an hourglass without a top, the glass is a very thick matrix of knowledge, information, that which we described before, within the glass is space. I am led to go into the space within and I see there something tumbling as if caught in a vortex of energy. I go in closer and see this is an alien being, small, unobtrusive. I am led to explore further this alien being and enter into its inner being. I am filled with awe at the nature of this being. Innocence, peace, a benign nature that can not be put into words. I can not help but cry, it is as if there is the innocence of a child yet the peace of God, not good not bad, benign in its nature. Tumbling in this vortex of energy, it is as if it is caught in a black hole, yet is there peace, space, lightness. I leave the inner portion of the hourglass to explore the glass its self. The matrix of thick information that supplies the walls of the hourglass, supplies the vortex where the alien being is tumbling.

Immediately, I sense a heaviness, an irritability, my shoulders get tight, my neck sore, the matrix of information has taken on a life of its own, it is as if it has become a machine on a quest for knowledge, discontentment, drive, an insatiable appetite it has. I want out, it is very uncomfortable, I wonder if it has trapped the benign being in its great desire to know more. Even in writing of it I
can feel the great weight and irritability it is causing me.

I asked to be released from its grip. Looking back upon this energy structure it is obvious things are not flowing between its parts, the parts seem very separate. The wall of knowledge is in great contrast to the vortex of space in which the alien being tumbles. Surrender, keeps popping up in my mind. I wonder if the wall would surrender itself, if
then their would be space, a mingling of all, wholeness.

I am in awe of the power and magnitude of our ability to create. I feel this structure reaches well beyond the dimension of form, yet it is form in the dimension of no form. Imagine this hour glass reaching into space producing its form where there is no form, space. Capturing within the
vortex of itself specimens to explore for great is its hunger to understand. I wonder what great purpose it has, I wonder how it can stand under such weight. I wonder what would happen if the walls fell and it became one with all.

I am anxious to finish writing and get out from under this weight of irritability, what a Burden to bare. I recognize this feeling, it is as if all of my consciousness is trying
to fit into my physical body. The last time I felt it I wanted to scream. I remember, I had lowered my vibration brought it down from on high made it more physical how painful it is. This mass of knowledge is palpable, so close to form, dense in its nature.

I wonder does it want to be manifested into physicality....questions, questions, what a
Burden to bear...

The discomfort, Burden, irritability was palpable. I felt it physically! Like this information must be born else one will collapse under the weight of it. Like it is building and building putting much pressure on the Dam that holds it in. It, the knowledge, did not feel benign. It felt like it had become self expanding, like it had forgotten its purpose and knew only to continue seeking more of its self. Let me see how to explain......Like there is a block preventing it from being released into the world of form. This block is causing pressure to build, stressing the structure. It felt like the knowledge had an ego of its own and was no longer in sync with the rest of its creation. I am sorry, it is hard to put into words...It felt like it needed to surrender its self and spill forth, It felt like the alien was a victim to its immense appetite. I am not sure if any of this makes sense. I have never experienced anything like this before. I am in awe....Did you create all of this? What is your purpose here? Who are you? Ha ha that was just for fun or was it?I wonder if it is time to risk it all, I wonder if it is time to fly..........

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I thought I would mention as well that April 2008 was madness for me. That was the month and year my 'precognitive gift' went into overdrive...it was eventually, what led me here.

I find that no coincidence.

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I thought I would mention as well that April 2008 was madness for me. That was the month and year my 'precognitive gift' went into overdrive...it was eventually, what led me here.

I find that no coincidence.

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I thought I would mention as well that April 2008 was madness for me. That was the month and year my 'precognitive gift' went into overdrive...it was eventually, what led me here.

I find that no coincidence.

:)
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2008 was the year where I was 'visited' most, starting at the end of December 2007.
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lol

Synch may be speeding up a bit.

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Thread: HourGlass

XXX, you touched upon the final words of this before...I am beginning to feel it more often now, though it is of a different nature than I expected...you know who I talk to about this, so you know who wrote it (and envisioned it) about me...sweet, sweet synchronicities...she had this vision/experience on April 12, 2008

*********

>>>> It is amazing how I can sense your mood thru your emails, even in the most simplest of writings you are able to convey yourself. I decided to take some time and meditate into your energy field again, hoping to help unlock the answers you search for. As before I am amazed at what I sense. Beware Chad, this is an experiment on my part, I know not the validity of the information I receive. If it does not make sense throw it out. If it is of interest keep it. I need not explain it to those whom can not understand, so only share with others of like mind. I shall try my best to describe the experience of being in your energy field.

Imagine you are an hourglass without a top, the glass is a very thick matrix of knowledge, information, that which we described before, within the glass is space. I am led to go into the space within and I see there something tumbling as if caught in a vortex of energy. I go in closer and see this is an alien being, small, unobtrusive. I am led to explore further this alien being and enter into its inner being. I am filled with awe at the nature of this being. Innocence, peace, a benign nature that can not be put into words. I can not help but cry, it is as if there is the innocence of a child yet the peace of God, not good not bad, benign in its nature. Tumbling in this vortex of energy, it is as if it is caught in a black hole, yet is there peace, space, lightness. I leave the inner portion of the hourglass to explore the glass its self. The matrix of thick information that supplies the walls of the hourglass, supplies the vortex where the alien being is tumbling.

Immediately, I sense a heaviness, an irritability, my shoulders get tight, my neck sore, the matrix of information has taken on a life of its own, it is as if it has become a machine on a quest for knowledge, discontentment, drive, an insatiable appetite it has. I want out, it is very uncomfortable, I wonder if it has trapped the benign being in its great desire to know more. Even in writing of it I
can feel the great weight and irritability it is causing me.

I asked to be released from its grip. Looking back upon this energy structure it is obvious things are not flowing between its parts, the parts seem very separate. The wall of knowledge is in great contrast to the vortex of space in which the alien being tumbles. Surrender, keeps popping up in my mind. I wonder if the wall would surrender itself, if
then their would be space, a mingling of all, wholeness.

I am in awe of the power and magnitude of our ability to create. I feel this structure reaches well beyond the dimension of form, yet it is form in the dimension of no form. Imagine this hour glass reaching into space producing its form where there is no form, space. Capturing within the
vortex of itself specimens to explore for great is its hunger to understand. I wonder what great purpose it has, I wonder how it can stand under such weight. I wonder what would happen if the walls fell and it became one with all.

I am anxious to finish writing and get out from under this weight of irritability, what a Burden to bare. I recognize this feeling, it is as if all of my consciousness is trying
to fit into my physical body. The last time I felt it I wanted to scream. I remember, I had lowered my vibration brought it down from on high made it more physical how painful it is. This mass of knowledge is palpable, so close to form, dense in its nature.

I wonder does it want to be manifested into physicality....questions, questions, what a
Burden to bear...

The discomfort, Burden, irritability was palpable. I felt it physically! Like this information must be born else one will collapse under the weight of it. Like it is building and building putting much pressure on the Dam that holds it in. It, the knowledge, did not feel benign. It felt like it had become self expanding, like it had forgotten its purpose and knew only to continue seeking more of its self. Let me see how to explain......Like there is a block preventing it from being released into the world of form. This block is causing pressure to build, stressing the structure. It felt like the knowledge had an ego of its own and was no longer in sync with the rest of its creation. I am sorry, it is hard to put into words...It felt like it needed to surrender its self and spill forth, It felt like the alien was a victim to its immense appetite. I am not sure if any of this makes sense. I have never experienced anything like this before. I am in awe....Did you create all of this? What is your purpose here? Who are you? Ha ha that was just for fun or was it?I wonder if it is time to risk it all, I wonder if it is time to fly..........

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I just noticed the pic in my sig. ...an hourglass.
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lol

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XXX, you touched upon the final words of this before...I am beginning to feel it more often now, though it is of a different nature than I expected...you know who I talk to about this, so you know who wrote it (and envisioned it) about me...sweet, sweet synchronicities...she had this vision/experience on April 12, 2008

*********

>>>> It is amazing how I can sense your mood thru your emails, even in the most simplest of writings you are able to convey yourself. I decided to take some time and meditate into your energy field again, hoping to help unlock the answers you search for. As before I am amazed at what I sense. Beware Chad, this is an experiment on my part, I know not the validity of the information I receive. If it does not make sense throw it out. If it is of interest keep it. I need not explain it to those whom can not understand, so only share with others of like mind. I shall try my best to describe the experience of being in your energy field.

Imagine you are an hourglass without a top, the glass is a very thick matrix of knowledge, information, that which we described before, within the glass is space. I am led to go into the space within and I see there something tumbling as if caught in a vortex of energy. I go in closer and see this is an alien being, small, unobtrusive. I am led to explore further this alien being and enter into its inner being. I am filled with awe at the nature of this being. Innocence, peace, a benign nature that can not be put into words. I can not help but cry, it is as if there is the innocence of a child yet the peace of God, not good not bad, benign in its nature. Tumbling in this vortex of energy, it is as if it is caught in a black hole, yet is there peace, space, lightness. I leave the inner portion of the hourglass to explore the glass its self. The matrix of thick information that supplies the walls of the hourglass, supplies the vortex where the alien being is tumbling.

Immediately, I sense a heaviness, an irritability, my shoulders get tight, my neck sore, the matrix of information has taken on a life of its own, it is as if it has become a machine on a quest for knowledge, discontentment, drive, an insatiable appetite it has. I want out, it is very uncomfortable, I wonder if it has trapped the benign being in its great desire to know more. Even in writing of it I
can feel the great weight and irritability it is causing me.

I asked to be released from its grip. Looking back upon this energy structure it is obvious things are not flowing between its parts, the parts seem very separate. The wall of knowledge is in great contrast to the vortex of space in which the alien being tumbles. Surrender, keeps popping up in my mind. I wonder if the wall would surrender itself, if
then their would be space, a mingling of all, wholeness.

I am in awe of the power and magnitude of our ability to create. I feel this structure reaches well beyond the dimension of form, yet it is form in the dimension of no form. Imagine this hour glass reaching into space producing its form where there is no form, space. Capturing within the
vortex of itself specimens to explore for great is its hunger to understand. I wonder what great purpose it has, I wonder how it can stand under such weight. I wonder what would happen if the walls fell and it became one with all.

I am anxious to finish writing and get out from under this weight of irritability, what a Burden to bare. I recognize this feeling, it is as if all of my consciousness is trying
to fit into my physical body. The last time I felt it I wanted to scream. I remember, I had lowered my vibration brought it down from on high made it more physical how painful it is. This mass of knowledge is palpable, so close to form, dense in its nature.

I wonder does it want to be manifested into physicality....questions, questions, what a
Burden to bear...

The discomfort, Burden, irritability was palpable. I felt it physically! Like this information must be born else one will collapse under the weight of it. Like it is building and building putting much pressure on the Dam that holds it in. It, the knowledge, did not feel benign. It felt like it had become self expanding, like it had forgotten its purpose and knew only to continue seeking more of its self. Let me see how to explain......Like there is a block preventing it from being released into the world of form. This block is causing pressure to build, stressing the structure. It felt like the knowledge had an ego of its own and was no longer in sync with the rest of its creation. I am sorry, it is hard to put into words...It felt like it needed to surrender its self and spill forth, It felt like the alien was a victim to its immense appetite. I am not sure if any of this makes sense. I have never experienced anything like this before. I am in awe....Did you create all of this? What is your purpose here? Who are you? Ha ha that was just for fun or was it?I wonder if it is time to risk it all, I wonder if it is time to fly..........

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I just noticed the pic in my sig. ...an hourglass.
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Dear God that is powerful.

Wow.


Did you sister write that?

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on the topic of hour glasses vortice etc:

And it is inverted for me. It is a great learning experience to see how people inside the system, break down the processes and how they perceive, as you say, the dimensions.

Many times I would release all control of where I would 'travel' to, with my intention being that my higher-self guide me to the experiences I was in need of learning.

I would let go, similar to meditating, and have the vibrating wind take me to wherever it would. Most times it was like being inside a tornado, literally, it was so damn powerful. It took a few times to adjust myself to be able to maintain mind clarity or non-thinking while making the journey, though still able to be aware of my surroundings. Basically, it is like using multiple states of consciousness all at one time, and controlling it all through releasing.

It was definitely a form of transitioning to the higher light bodies.
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you do not notice the faster than light speed velocities because all, inclusive of you, utilize the superluminal by default (non material structure(s)/non material dimensions)
and
you do not notice the scale you and all else is within the domains because all by default utilize the same scale (s)

which is why the vortice`s (tornadoes) experience as tornadoes

think sub atomic
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