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Gotcha. I do?
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Of course you do. You play them like a fiddle. It is something you slip into at the drop of a hat.

The phrase 'own your shit' can be demonstrated by observing you.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Gotcha. I do?
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Of course you do. You play them like a fiddle. It is something you slip into at the drop of a hat.

The phrase 'own your shit' can be demonstrated by observing you.
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Thanks. I think that is one of the coolest things anyone has said to me.

Good birthday present!
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

“Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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material things have altered my personality in my past
nuts really
it was 50/50
me not possessing anything emotional of interest other than myself finding out money does not discover emotion of the nature i desired
and you alter in the way people interact with you whether you want them to or not
like you are always admitted
i never discovered a door that was not opening it`self to me in return for payment and i traveled to many countries to notice that is true
sometimes it only opens to take your money
sometimes it takes your money and gives not what you were told
and sometimes it takes your money and does what it told
but the universal truth i experienced
there is no institutional door that will not open once for money
maybe not twice
but
always once

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Thanks. I think that is one of the coolest things anyone has said to me.

Good birthday present!
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Happy birthday, Don Chewbacca!
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I'm not so sure about that.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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material things have altered my personality in my past
nut really
it was 50/50
me not possessing anything emotional of interest other than myself finding out money does not discover emotion of the nature i desired
and you alter in the way people interact with you whether you want them to or not
like you are always admitted
i never discovered a door that was not opening it`self to me in return for payment and i traveled to many countries to notice that is true
sometimes it only opens to take your money
sometimes it takes your money and gives not what you were told
and sometimes it takes your money and does what it told
but the universal truth i experienced
there is no institutional door that will not open once for money
maybe not twice
but
always once
 Quoting: aether


wow, I really like this. So simple, yet so true.
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material things have altered my personality in my past
nut really
it was 50/50
me not possessing anything emotional of interest other than myself finding out money does not discover emotion of the nature i desired
and you alter in the way people interact with you whether you want them to or not
like you are always admitted
i never discovered a door that was not opening it`self to me in return for payment and i traveled to many countries to notice that is true
sometimes it only opens to take your money
sometimes it takes your money and gives not what you were told
and sometimes it takes your money and does what it told
but the universal truth i experienced
there is no institutional door that will not open once for money
maybe not twice
but
always once
 Quoting: aether


wow, I really like this. So simple, yet so true.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


yes
not often my money
i was there when events occur
natural
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I'm not so sure about that.
 Quoting: Seer777


hmm
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I'm not so sure about that.
 Quoting: Seer777


hmm
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Well...


Think of it in context of want vs. need.

It seems 'indulgence' is the direct opposite of denial.

Chronic self indulgence often leading to addiction, obesity, or worse.

:)
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I'm not so sure about that.
 Quoting: Seer777


hmm
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


:hmmm:
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I quite agree, quantum mechanics leaves a little to desire. Virtual particles seem too convenient to me to get the math to a safe place.

I do notice that they say light is a transverse wave and needs no medium to propagate, yet no one seems to be able to explain wave propagation without a medium. Water or string, both mediums. Sound requires the vibrational properties of atoms to propagate, whereas light merely needs the underlying aether. Of course I believe in an aether, because a space composed of geometric curves without substance that tells mass how to move after mass bends this nothing is just plain moronic. As if something can effect nothing and this nothing then affect somethings. Worse than quantum mechanics and all their virtual particles that exist in whatever state needed until observed. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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It is more powerful to admit than to deny.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I'm not so sure about that.
 Quoting: Seer777


hmm
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Well...


Think of it in context of want vs. need.

It seems 'indulgence' is the direct opposite of denial.

Chronic self indulgence often leading to addiction, obesity, or worse.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I don't think it can be applied in that context.

An obese person has a routine of eating too much and not being active enough.

A person addicted to crack or meth has a routine supported by behavioral and chemical reinforcements.

In order to change that routine, they must first admit that the routine is a direct threat to their long term health. They must also have a motivation to live without that routine.

'Denying oneself' does not mean just endlessly indulging oneself without a care in the world. It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I don't think it can be applied in that context.

An obese person has a routine of eating too much and not being active enough.

A person addicted to crack or meth has a routine supported by behavioral and chemical reinforcements.

In order to change that routine, they must first admit that the routine is a direct threat to their long term health. They must also have a motivation to live without that routine.

'Denying oneself' does not mean just endlessly indulging oneself without a care in the world.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


What is the proper vantage point I should view it from then?

Contextually?

Self denial as indulgence?

Could you give me an example?

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I don't think it can be applied in that context.

An obese person has a routine of eating too much and not being active enough.

A person addicted to crack or meth has a routine supported by behavioral and chemical reinforcements.

In order to change that routine, they must first admit that the routine is a direct threat to their long term health. They must also have a motivation to live without that routine.

'Denying oneself' does not mean just endlessly indulging oneself without a care in the world.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


What is the proper vantage point I should view it from then?

Contextually?

Self denial as indulgence?

Could you give me an example?

scratching
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Denying oneself, to me, means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.

If one is overweight, to see oneself as overweight. To acknowledge the significance of that unbalanced routine and what it will take to bring it back into balance.

To be conflicted about being overweight...that is, to desire to not be overweight and at the same time to perpetuate the routine that keeps one overweight involves some type of denying of oneself.

Either the person indulges in their routine of eating and that is more important to them...or they suffer to get 'thin' and that is what is more important.

Either way...to remain conflicted is to deny oneself.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.
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What you are?

How could one ever know?


It is fluid in Nature, constantly changing, merging, morphing.

What is Self then?

Is it static?

hmm
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Denying oneself, to me, means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.

If one is overweight, to see oneself as overweight. To acknowledge the significance of that unbalanced routine and what it will take to bring it back into balance.

To be conflicted about being overweight...that is, to desire to not be overweight and at the same time to perpetuate the routine that keeps one overweight involves some type of denying of oneself.

Either the person indulges in their routine of eating and that is more important to them...or they suffer to get 'thin' and that is what is more important.

Either way...to remain conflicted is to deny oneself.
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Oh...so 'deny' as in 'lie' to ones Self. Yes, in that context I see it plainly.

Thanks.

:)
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It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.
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What you are?

How could one ever know?


It is fluid in Nature, constantly changing, merging, morphing.

What is Self then?

Is it static?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Exactly. Which is why the bent of Juan Matus's knowledge is bent on being fluid, light, being able to change oneself.

The biggest threat to the ability we have to change ourselves, according to Juan Matus...is personal history.

“In order to help his ward to erase personal history, the warrior as a teacher teaches three techniques: losing self-importance, assuming responsibility for one’s acts, and using death as an adviser. Without the beneficial effect of these three techniques, erasing personal history would involve being shifty, evasive and unnecessarily dubious about oneself and one’s actions.”
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Magnetic fields created before the first stars
[link to www.spacedaily.com]

That's kind of obvious, if it were true that there was a place in time when/where stars never existed.
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It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.
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What you are?

How could one ever know?


It is fluid in Nature, constantly changing, merging, morphing.

What is Self then?

Is it static?

hmm
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literally true in electrical definition
once you have static- ed (arced) into existence electromagnetic structural formation occurs

the near instant static arc (on/off/pulse) and the electromagnetic structure "fed" near instantly from/by static continuously is the 2 which is your self
the power and the glory

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It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.
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What you are?

How could one ever know?


It is fluid in Nature, constantly changing, merging, morphing.

What is Self then?

Is it static?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Exactly. Which is why the bent of Juan Matus's knowledge is bent on being fluid, light, being able to change oneself.

The biggest threat to the ability we have to change ourselves, according to Juan Matus...is personal history.

“In order to help his ward to erase personal history, the warrior as a teacher teaches three techniques: losing self-importance, assuming responsibility for one’s acts, and using death as an adviser. Without the beneficial effect of these three techniques, erasing personal history would involve being shifty, evasive and unnecessarily dubious about oneself and one’s actions.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


This seems to come up a lot.

The suspension of memory.

I don't see how that could possibly work in any context. I have had several discussions with my brother regarding this.

Where it says 'erase personal history' what would that entail exactly?

It reminds me a bit of what I think of as 'boot camp'. That scene from Full Metal Jacket. Funny but also really disturbing.



Stripping one of their 'personal' memory to place what in its stead?

Proper conduct?

Obedience?


One can achieve these things without erasure of personal history me thinks...

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just realized we need a new word
staticed does not exist
arced works but does not define order/sequence

hmm
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It means to look at yourself and not see the plain truth of what you are and what motivates you.
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What you are?

How could one ever know?


It is fluid in Nature, constantly changing, merging, morphing.

What is Self then?

Is it static?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Exactly. Which is why the bent of Juan Matus's knowledge is bent on being fluid, light, being able to change oneself.

The biggest threat to the ability we have to change ourselves, according to Juan Matus...is personal history.

“In order to help his ward to erase personal history, the warrior as a teacher teaches three techniques: losing self-importance, assuming responsibility for one’s acts, and using death as an adviser. Without the beneficial effect of these three techniques, erasing personal history would involve being shifty, evasive and unnecessarily dubious about oneself and one’s actions.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


This seems to come up a lot.

The suspension of memory.

I don't see how that could possibly work in any context. I have had several discussions with my brother regarding this.

Where it says 'erase personal history' what would that entail exactly?

It reminds me a bit of what I think of as 'boot camp'. That scene from Full Metal Jacket. Funny but also really disturbing.



Stripping one of their 'personal' memory to place what in its stead?

Proper conduct?

Obedience?


One can achieve these things without erasure of personal history me thinks...

:)
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seems true if replacement information makes sense to do
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This seems to come up a lot.

The suspension of memory.

I don't see how that could possibly work in any context. I have had several discussions with my brother regarding this.

Where it says 'erase personal history' what would that entail exactly?

It reminds me a bit of what I think of as 'boot camp'. That scene from Full Metal Jacket. Funny but also really disturbing.



Stripping one of their 'personal' memory to place what in its stead?

Proper conduct?

Obedience?


One can achieve these things without erasure of personal history me thinks...

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I don't know if you can suspend memories. But you can develop a sense of detachment.

With this sense, you can explore the emotional connections you have with these memories. By recapitulation, you could view the 'memory' in its proper context, which is one free of any emotion, merely observing what happened.

Erasing personal history, however, is more than just recapitulation. It involves becoming familiar with the totality of oneself.

“Personal history must be constantly renewed by telling parents, relatives, and friends everything one does. On the other hand, for the warrior who has no personal history, no explanations are needed; nobody is angry or disillusioned with his acts. And above all, no one pins him down with their thoughts or expectations.”

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Stripping one of their 'personal' memory to place what in its stead?

Proper conduct?

Obedience?


One can achieve these things without erasure of personal history me thinks...
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“Personal history must be constantly renewed by telling parents, relatives, and friends everything one does. On the other hand, for the warrior who has no personal history, no explanations are needed; nobody is angry or disillusioned with his acts. And above all, no one pins him down with their thoughts or expectations.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Notice that the quote about personal history is precisely that it tends to force others to acquiesce to a sense of 'proper conduct' and 'obedience' as dictated by the eyes of the onlooker.

Personal history has a large outward social component to it.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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This seems to come up a lot.

The suspension of memory.

I don't see how that could possibly work in any context. I have had several discussions with my brother regarding this.

Where it says 'erase personal history' what would that entail exactly?

It reminds me a bit of what I think of as 'boot camp'. That scene from Full Metal Jacket. Funny but also really disturbing.



Stripping one of their 'personal' memory to place what in its stead?

Proper conduct?

Obedience?


One can achieve these things without erasure of personal history me thinks...

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I don't know if you can suspend memories. But you can develop a sense of detachment.

With this sense, you can explore the emotional connections you have with these memories. By recapitulation, you could view the 'memory' in its proper context, which is one free of any emotion, merely observing what happened.

Erasing personal history, however, is more than just recapitulation. It involves becoming familiar with the totality of oneself.

“Personal history must be constantly renewed by telling parents, relatives, and friends everything one does. On the other hand, for the warrior who has no personal history, no explanations are needed; nobody is angry or disillusioned with his acts. And above all, no one pins him down with their thoughts or expectations.”
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I see.

Yes.

I have mentioned that in the past as well.

When one is able to bypass Self, trauma doesn't linger...


Removing attachment to trauma would be the most effective usage of this idea of detachment I think.


However, I am recalling Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...where one would request to lose said memory of an event or entire person just because it was to painful to recall.

However the Mind fights back.

Why do you think this is?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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You know, thinking on it more, there truly is no one to blame. I am viewing it from a state of hindsight is 20/20. Saying something like 'serves them right', is kind of based on the 'ego' of that hindsight.

Everyone is following their own path of clues and conclusions.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


yes
 Quoting: aether


It kind of really bothers me I said that. It wholly reminds me of all the posters on GLP that generalize groups and factions and clump them all together and say negative things about them.

hmm

Lesson learned.
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What's great is you caught it, not many do...plus others will read it as well and learn.

birthday you become 8 again right, lol
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However, I am recalling Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...where one would request to lose said memory of an event or entire person just because it was to painful to recall.

However the Mind fights back.

Why do you think this is?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, I've seen that movie. There was something very sad about it.

I would say that generally, something always pushes back when we try to change ourselves.

I would call it 'the human form'. It only appears to be the 'mind' in some cases.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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good morning aether,, please excuse the delay in responding to your kind greeting,,

re-stumbled upon another diversion before reading your greeting,,

one felt drawn,, and obliged,, by namesake,, too read the entire "where is the nobody" thread,,

seems many here have posted there,,

an interesting mental associative behavior ingestion indeed,,


also,, a good morning to all others whom are loved in this thread,,

(every one included)


much love,,

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