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aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Surely there were two components of the Axis Mundi between the Earth and Saturn: The World Mountain and The Tree of Life (or Plasma Column; I prefer tornadic Birkeland currents) with its many branches. When the column collapsed, ("slain" by Mars or Saturn and thereby severing Earth from Heaven), flooding the Earth, the World Mountain also collapsed, the effects of which are still reverberating today in the Northern Hemisphere. The salt water of the global flood could well have come from Saturn - Quoting: observation[link to news.nationalgeographic.com] I think that Earth's electric gravity, and consequently all inertial mass, would have been minimal at that time (and way before the dinosaurs; also explains giant humans walking the Earth in those days) and for many decades, which may have been when the massive megaliths were built - Stonehenge, Giza pyramids etc.- all commemorating/worshiping Mars, Venus and the receding Saturn. Many Venus temple-observatories were also built - [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.anglesey-hidden-gem.com] and human sacrifices made to her because she was mightily feared. The Mayans gave the Birth of Venus circa 3000 BC and based their famous calendar on this event. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 09/03/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not yet. Planning on leaving soon. We had some renters in there for the last 3 days after they won the weekend at my niece/nephews school auction. I will make it before sunset either way. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you know bea i might have confused you on my last post but after thinking about it a while. Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker here is an explication i can give you about asyncronicity. it is everywhere! Everything is asyncronous. Your body vibrate to the energy of the cosmos! and eac of your organs have a different frequency independent of each anoter! your Sciatic nerve is your FSB connecting your CPU to your NB and SB. We human have 7 chips that we know of! those chips communicate syncrously but make sure that everything else is not syncrounous! if your heart wer to run syncrounous as your kidney you will have serious health issues! if your bones would be syncrounous to your blood! you would liquify yourself! same for nature and everything on earth! all asyncrounous! when we say that we need to increase our vibration it simply mean to THINK!!! thinking is the highest form of expression / vibration freqency we can do! thinking is lighter then air! lighter then the lightest of all atoms! raising vibration is not about being one with all! (this is death) Much love! I'm not one of those "become one with all" folks, lol. Yes, we're all connected, but not non-individuated hive minds. Synchronicity, as we're speaking of it here, is more like a nudge where ideas and concepts coincide for a moment, that's all. It's not a solid experience, just brief and fleeting. I do suspect there are many parallels between the body and the machine, but in this case, it's a mistake in terminology... equating sync on a machine and inside the mind. Not everything is transferable. yes i agree that our thoughts all come from a common server! The ether. We create thoughts and send them to the ether and then others can take it there and push it further! the ether is like the universe library for all thoughts! Go a step further. I see the aether as non-locality. We're material, but what animates us isn't... as in the energy that sparks more than bio-mechanical functions. Consciousness energy, the part that travels in non-locality because it's non-local. In that regard, we ARE the aether, not the entirety, but a fragment. |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look when the bebrews re wrote their old testament and presented their people with a final version The Great Assembly ( "The Men of the Great Assembly"), also known as the Great Synagogue, was, according to Jewish tradition, an assembly of 120 scribes, sages, and prophets, in the period from the end of the Biblical prophets to the early Hellenistic period. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] Hellenistic period The Hellenistic period or Hellenistic era of history is the period which followed the conquests of Alexander the Great. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] you have NO guesses who was the clever guy running Alexander Aristotle was a Greek philosopher and polymath, a student of Plato and teacher of Alexander the Great ............... Quoting: observation..........Aristotle was appointed as the head of the royal academy of Macedon. During that time he gave lessons not only to Alexander, but also to two other future kings: Ptolemy and Cassander. and his attitude towards Persia was unabashedly ethnocentric. In one famous example, he counsels Alexander to be 'a leader to the Greeks and a despot to the barbarians, to look after the former as after friends and relatives, and to deal with the latter as with beasts or plants'...................... ................In metaphysics, Aristotelianism had a profound influence on philosophical and theological thinking in the Islamic and Jewish traditions in the Middle Ages, and it continues to influence Christian theology, especially the scholastic tradition of the Catholic Church. you couldn`t make this up Last Edited by aether on 09/03/2012 07:44 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for clarity the good news is within our secret societies of military/scientific might in our 21st century we have men that recognize the value of listening to women whom possess, on merit, the same degree of authority as men do Quoting: aether and we are enjoying women administrating within the key department at the top of our pyramid, the department labeled "masters of universe", the cosmology department Last Edited by aether on 09/03/2012 07:57 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems to me the most influential person ever in hebrew, islamic and christian faith is Aristotle Quoting: aether he has shaped their faith more than any other "anything" has Bless his heart, he did the best with what he had, lol. softy I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22311399 Canada 09/03/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems to me the most influential person ever in hebrew, islamic and christian faith is Aristotle Quoting: aether he has shaped their faith more than any other "anything" has Bless his heart, he did the best with what he had, lol. softy I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. Most people look at history through the sparkling lens of the on demand supplied Super Groceteria. A few days subsisting in a food is faster or more mysterious than you zone may do them well. |
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nobody User ID: 21540747 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | paitience as a virture is as flawed by its design as it is by origin,, tick tock indeed,, time waits for no man,, yet time is born of man in this place,, though an intertwinned effigy by design,, spiralled,, were it ever perceived correctly otherwise,, the denominators of the obsu-carious belief may forget,, that they ended before they began,, and yet still,, there is a time for eveything,, and everything in its place,, without such a restraint,, false patience is all,, that can be conceived,, imaj-ine that,, all time is not ever owned,, yet simply by a thought grown,, so continue,, checking your watch,, by this thought grown,, much love,, |
fancy nli User ID: 17984635 United States 09/03/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems to me the most influential person ever in hebrew, islamic and christian faith is Aristotle Quoting: aether he has shaped their faith more than any other "anything" has Bless his heart, he did the best with what he had, lol. softy I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. The question is, why did the people listen to him and his students? |
fancy nli User ID: 17984635 United States 09/03/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do those geometrical shapes even mean? Like how are they useful to know...I get the torus with the poles, but those cubes within cubes, I'm lost on what it pertains to. It doesn't connect in my brain...I'm so not a shape person! |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it seems to me the most influential person ever in hebrew, islamic and christian faith is Aristotle Quoting: aether he has shaped their faith more than any other "anything" has those 3 faiths are running Aristotle`s cosmology model and that has been the "problem" through our 20th century alter the cosmology model and by default, you alter the baseline of the 3 faiths and that is if you only alter it change the nature of the cosmology completely and you change the nature of the faiths baseline completely |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. Most people look at history through the sparkling lens of the on demand supplied Super Groceteria. A few days subsisting in a food is faster or more mysterious than you zone may do them well. I figure it's part of the shopping experience to pick things up and plunk them, discern what contains potential to nourish, what contains the potential to poison. If others want to pick up the things I discard, more power to them. But as in all things, it's best when you grow it yourself... smiles at her own secret joke, lol. Subsistence isn't my thing, I'm not overpowered by feelings of scarcity so I rarely give into greed. As for mystery, it's as easy to come by as shifting perception for a moment. I was riding shotgun the other day, just closing my eyes and watching the psychedelic experience of the light and shadow making their visuals behind my eyes. No growing of my own even required. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. The question is, why did the people listen to him and his students? Because you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's value in some of it, truth even, but loads of false and meaningless in current context as well. In short, in the past century, we've moved beyond the either/or logic that kept us flat for centuries. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may sound dumb, but I'll ask anyway....lol Quoting: fancy nli 17984635 What do those geometrical shapes even mean? Like how are they useful to know...I get the torus with the poles, but those cubes within cubes, I'm lost on what it pertains to. It doesn't connect in my brain...I'm so not a shape person! The way we move, as if on a grid, through the universe. We spiral, we move forward, encased in our fields, both on a global and personal level. Think of it, we're hurtling through space, spinning, spiraling, moving forward at unimaginable speeds, yet to our own narrow perception, we're going nowhere at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22311399 Canada 09/03/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tend to look at the ancients with a lesser "they were dicks" lens because they lived in a very different world than we do. I DO recognize his contributions, but by the same token, recognize the limiting concepts he left with us from his time on. His "logic" droves eons of authoritarianism, conflict, and led to overlooking big discoveries in science... Not to mention his views of virtuous slavery and the lesser soul of women, lmao. He was truly a man of his times, again... bless his heart, lol. Most people look at history through the sparkling lens of the on demand supplied Super Groceteria. A few days subsisting in a food is faster or more mysterious than you zone may do them well. I figure it's part of the shopping experience to pick things up and plunk them, discern what contains potential to nourish, what contains the potential to poison. If others want to pick up the things I discard, more power to them. But as in all things, it's best when you grow it yourself... smiles at her own secret joke, lol. Subsistence isn't my thing, I'm not overpowered by feelings of scarcity so I rarely give into greed. As for mystery, it's as easy to come by as shifting perception for a moment. I was riding shotgun the other day, just closing my eyes and watching the psychedelic experience of the light and shadow making their visuals behind my eyes. No growing of my own even required. Nothing like the arch arc of the cornea to produce colours through the veils of the eye. I personally like losing all sense of position and the tiniest jolt induces free fall ecstasy. How quickly the eyes burst open. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 09/03/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may sound dumb, but I'll ask anyway....lol Quoting: fancy nli 17984635 What do those geometrical shapes even mean? Like how are they useful to know...I get the torus with the poles, but those cubes within cubes, I'm lost on what it pertains to. It doesn't connect in my brain...I'm so not a shape person! The way we move, as if on a grid, through the universe. We spiral, we move forward, encased in our fields, both on a global and personal level. Think of it, we're hurtling through space, spinning, spiraling, moving forward at unimaginable speeds, yet to our own narrow perception, we're going nowhere at all. I see your point with the baby and bathwater. I guess one has to figure in the culture of the times too. Thanks, still hard to imagine...but I understand a bit better now. So do the different geometrical shapes mean different influences from frequencies? I haven't really thought of it that way, will own it, lol. I would think that frequency would depend on position in the universe combined with the electromagnetics present in the global and personal fields. Perhaps certain shapes hone that energy and aim it toward receptive fields, both global and personal. |
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aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Platonic solids have been known since antiquity. Ornamented models of them can be found among the carved stone balls created by the late neolithic people of Scotland at least 1000 years before Plato . Dice go back to the dawn of civilization with shapes that augured formal charting of Platonic solids...... Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] Carved Stone Balls [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by aether on 09/03/2012 09:19 PM |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Platonic solids can be traced onto the surface of a sphere through a process called radial projection, with each face having the same angles and shape. Carved stone balls come in many shapes, but most have bosses equal to the number of faces on the Platonic solids. Their makers were generating spherical objects with maximal symmetry. The number of bosses on the balls as listed by Marshall, were analysed by Manoel de Campos Almeida, a professor of mathematics who is interested in the Platonic solids. He determined that the number of bosses was not randomly allocated (over 75% of all carved stone balls have a number of bosses that equates with one of the five Platonic solids) proving mathematically that Neolithic people were able to count to at least 135 and were radially-projecting the Platonic solids (and their duals) in the hardest material available to them at the time, some 1500 years before Plato wrote about them in Timaeus. Quoting: observation[link to www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk] |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plato was mightily impressed by these five definite shapes that constitute the only perfectly symmetrical arrangements of a set of (non-planar) points in space, and late in life he expounded a complete "theory of everything", in the treatise called Timaeus, based explicitly on these five solids. Interestingly, almost 2000 years later, Johannes Kepler was similarly fascinated by these five shapes, and developed his own cosmology from them. Quoting: observation[link to www.mathpages.com] |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Philo Philo (20 B.C.–50 A.D.), known also as Philo of Alexandria Quoting: observationPhilo Judaeus, Philo Judaeus of Alexandria, Yedidia, "Philon", and Philo the Jew, was a Hellenistic Jewish Biblical philosopher born in Alexandria. Philo used philosophical allegory to attempt to fuse and harmonize Greek philosophy with Jewish philosophy. His method followed the practices of both Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His allegorical exegesis was important for several Christian Church Fathers, but he has barely any reception history within Judaism. "The sophists of literalness," as he calls the literalist jewish people, "opened their eyes superciliously" when he explained to them the marvels of his exegesis. He believed that literal interpretations of the Hebrew Bible would stifle mankind's view and perception of a God too complex and marvelous to be understood in literal human terms. Some scholars hold that his concept of the Logos as God's creative principle influenced early Christology. ...................His account of the Creation is almost identical with that of Plato; he follows the latter's Timaeus closely. Like Plato, he places the creative activity as well as the act of creation outside of time, on the Platonic ground that time begins only with the world. The influence of Pythagorism appears in number-symbolism, to which Philo frequently refers. The Aristotelian contrast between ("power, might, strength") and (Metaphysics, iii.73) is found in Philo, De Allegoriis Legum, i.64 (on Aristotle see Freudenthal in "Monatsschrift," 1875, p. 233). In his psychology he adopts either the Stoic division of the soul into eight faculties, or the Platonic trichotomy of reason, courage, and desire, or the Aristotelian triad of the vegetative, emotive, and rational souls. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by aether on 09/03/2012 09:40 PM |
aether (OP) User ID: 22367360 United Kingdom 09/03/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the thing that has driven everyone nuts for thousands of years was not "what is the structure of reality" we inherited the blue print of that and saw how it fitted quite quickly the nutty part was what force/energy made it function (move) if it was a god, how did the god do it because there was no inherited blueprint that we could see that told us so it was relegated to a god`s will and will was never defined because it was undefinable by us because we could never discover what a gods will is but we kept looking for it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22311399 Canada 09/03/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Philo Quoting: aether Philo (20 B.C.–50 A.D.), known also as Philo of Alexandria Quoting: observationPhilo Judaeus, Philo Judaeus of Alexandria, Yedidia, "Philon", and Philo the Jew, was a Hellenistic Jewish Biblical philosopher born in Alexandria. Philo used philosophical allegory to attempt to fuse and harmonize Greek philosophy with Jewish philosophy. His method followed the practices of both Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His allegorical exegesis was important for several Christian Church Fathers, but he has barely any reception history within Judaism. "The sophists of literalness," as he calls the literalist jewish people, "opened their eyes superciliously" when he explained to them the marvels of his exegesis. He believed that literal interpretations of the Hebrew Bible would stifle mankind's view and perception of a God too complex and marvelous to be understood in literal human terms. Some scholars hold that his concept of the Logos as God's creative principle influenced early Christology. ...................His account of the Creation is almost identical with that of Plato; he follows the latter's Timaeus closely. Like Plato, he places the creative activity as well as the act of creation outside of time, on the Platonic ground that time begins only with the world. The influence of Pythagorism appears in number-symbolism, to which Philo frequently refers. The Aristotelian contrast between ("power, might, strength") and (Metaphysics, iii.73) is found in Philo, De Allegoriis Legum, i.64 (on Aristotle see Freudenthal in "Monatsschrift," 1875, p. 233). In his psychology he adopts either the Stoic division of the soul into eight faculties, or the Platonic trichotomy of reason, courage, and desire, or the Aristotelian triad of the vegetative, emotive, and rational souls. [link to en.wikipedia.org] As it comes silently screaming, What is the organ of sense? You are(is) correct. |