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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 10/02/2012 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | conscious = motive = motivated from inside outwards = spin Quoting: aether what we are describing and utilizing on this and other threads is the visible signs of conscious process expression of spin is transient time variance by design thus there is always enough things spinning (conscious material expression)at any one moment to sustain/retain synergistic effect within our material dimension Yes I was just considering 'unconscious' self perpetuating spin. For instance the Earth, rotates around the Sun, and revolves itself on Her axis. Day and night. In a closed loop system complete balance needs nothing to exist except that which are the defining elements. The Earth, a perfectly balanced being into and of itself, relies on the rays of Sun to touch her Waters to impart Life on her surface. Remove either variable and the system collapses. Also, the heart and lungs as mentioned, seem to work more or less on their own accord with our attention unnecessary unless complications occur. Air and blood. To apply consciousness then to something like the torus energy sphere as far as a type of automatic system as humans enjoy as the heart and lung system, then perhaps leaves room for the 'potential'. lol. I'm not sure where I am going with this. Just a musing. Last Edited by Seer777 on 10/02/2012 05:08 PM Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 10/02/2012 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless Yep. It takes a special kind of crazy to attempt it. "One needs love for life, for intrigue, for mystery. One needs unquenchable curiosity and guts galore." The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless true Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 10/02/2012 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless Yep. It takes a special kind of crazy to attempt it. "One needs love for life, for intrigue, for mystery. One needs unquenchable curiosity and guts galore." I'm on it! : |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 10/02/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless true Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless true Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. |
HilosPP User ID: 1486547 United States 10/02/2012 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. Haha, I must just be catching the tail end of this conversation what are you guys talking about? :P The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 10/02/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless Yep. It takes a special kind of crazy to attempt it. "One needs love for life, for intrigue, for mystery. One needs unquenchable curiosity and guts galore." I'm on it! : That seems like pure technocratic terror. “The art of a warrior is to balance the terror of being a man with the wonder of being a man.” Science is a form of reason. Intent is more engulfing than reason. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
aether (OP) User ID: 24814629 United Kingdom 10/02/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. our environment is conscious so every walk through is an emotional experience to us and our environment |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bea Nameless Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. Haha, I must just be catching the tail end of this conversation what are you guys talking about? :P Everything, dude. I mean literally "every thing", lmao. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bea Nameless Those diving close to the bottom expect the tension will propel them to equally lofty heights. Physics, lol. The bottom is the top according to Sophia and the Demiurge. But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. our environment is conscious so every walk through is an emotional experience to us and our environment It only makes sense. When we dive or ascend or even just splash around, we make ripples. All things began with a ripple, reverberations. It only all ends when we stop moving. |
aether (OP) User ID: 24814629 United Kingdom 10/02/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. our environment is conscious so every walk through is an emotional experience to us and our environment It only makes sense. When we dive or ascend or even just splash around, we make ripples. All things began with a ripple, reverberations. It only all ends when we stop moving. feedback = synergistic effect of the joint emotional experience ? feels like it |
HilosPP User ID: 1486547 United States 10/02/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But it works both ways, in some respects the top is the bottom and the bottom is the top. Haha, I must just be catching the tail end of this conversation what are you guys talking about? :P Everything, dude. I mean literally "every thing", lmao. Hehe, ya I've been thinking about the horizon which defines the density of Earth's present place in existence. The ionosphere, Soul Sun; and the necromantic plane, earth. I believe this horizon is literally the gateway all Necromancers must master. Sometimes I picture the compass of the Mason's sign as the converging of these planes, to form said horizon or axis. But I spend a lot of time thinking about what it'd really take to raise a few hundred people at once; or maybe more eventually, after some practice. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 10/02/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our environment is conscious so every walk through is an emotional experience to us and our environment Quoting: aether I would think so... Following this train of thought then...Man's energy whether intended toward the positive vs. non-positive could and perhaps DOES push Natural disasters. Or, instead perhaps the Earth communicates said distress to the sensitive who then pick up on the vibe and translate it accordingly. I would assume if either the case, both would occur. If the size and power of the wave starting at 1:45 doesn't raise the hair on your arms...nothing will. Last Edited by Seer777 on 10/02/2012 05:41 PM Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 10/02/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, simulation, system test, lol. And isn't that why extremes exist in the first place? To find the boundaries of a system by constantly pushing against the known specifications. It drives all science and consciousness. Quoting: Bea Nameless Yep. It takes a special kind of crazy to attempt it. "One needs love for life, for intrigue, for mystery. One needs unquenchable curiosity and guts galore." I'm on it! : That seems like pure technocratic terror. “The art of a warrior is to balance the terror of being a man with the wonder of being a man.” Science is a form of reason. Intent is more engulfing than reason. The Samurai would engage debaucheries to extremes to prove ones execution was flawless. (=) is (=) no matter the words. "Movement engages the dynamic purity of silence". --D.F |
HilosPP User ID: 1486547 United States 10/02/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, of course! Our output matches our input, we either push the ripples back out or willingly pull them in. Not just we do this, everything does this. We constantly send and receive from a myriad of sources including the original. Quoting: Bea Nameless That's insightful, thanks. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, of course! Our output matches our input, we either push the ripples back out or willingly pull them in. Not just we do this, everything does this. We constantly send and receive from a myriad of sources including the original. Quoting: Bea Nameless That's insightful, thanks. You're welcome. And lest anyone begin to think me wise, allow me to throw up obligatory silly unicorn, lol. I'm too fey to be comfortable with thank yous, hence my stupid reply. Thus I share a weakness! :aaalways: |
HilosPP User ID: 1486547 United States 10/02/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, of course! Our output matches our input, we either push the ripples back out or willingly pull them in. Not just we do this, everything does this. We constantly send and receive from a myriad of sources including the original. Quoting: Bea Nameless That's insightful, thanks. You're welcome. And lest anyone begin to think me wise, allow me to throw up obligatory silly unicorn, lol. I'm too fey to be comfortable with thank yous, hence my stupid reply. Thus I share a weakness! :aaalways: Haha, you say to the guy who thinks about ressurrecting unicorns too. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 10/02/2012 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the size and power of the wave starting at 1:45 doesn't raise the hair on your arms...nothing will. imagine how some of our imaginative writers would have recorded that event 2000 to 5000 years ago No need to imagine. The stories are everywhere... The Story of Atrahasis. Sumerian Great Deluge Myth. [link to faculty.gvsu.edu] Wall, listen constantly to me! Reed hut, make sure you attend to all my words! Dismantle the house, build a boat, . . . Roof it like the Apsu So the sun cannot see inside it! Make upper decks and lower decks, The tackle must be very strong, The bitumen [a kind of tar] strong . . . (Dalley 29-30) Atrahasis gathers the elders of Shuruppak and makes up an excuse to leave town: he says that Enki and Enlil are angry with each other and that Enki has commanded him to go down to the water's edge. Which he does, and there he builds his boat and fills it with every type of animal (the text is fragmentary here) and his family. Adad begins to thunder, and sick with impending doom ("his heart was breaking and he was vomiting bile"), Atrahasis seals up the door of the boat with bitumen (Dalley 31). The storm and flood turn out to be more than the gods bargained for: Like a wild ass screaming the winds howled The darkness was total, there was no sun. . . . As for Nintu the Great Mistress, Her lips became encrusted with rime. The great gods, the Annuna, Stayed parched and famished. The goddess watched and wept . . . (Dalley 31-32) The great mother goddess complains bitterly about Enlil and Anu's shortcomings as decision-makers, and she weeps for the dead humans who "clog the river like dragonflies." Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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aether (OP) User ID: 24814629 United Kingdom 10/02/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the size and power of the wave starting at 1:45 doesn't raise the hair on your arms...nothing will. imagine how some of our imaginative writers would have recorded that event 2000 to 5000 years ago No need to imagine. The stories are everywhere... The Story of Atrahasis. Sumerian Great Deluge Myth. [link to faculty.gvsu.edu] Wall, listen constantly to me! Reed hut, make sure you attend to all my words! Dismantle the house, build a boat, . . . Roof it like the Apsu So the sun cannot see inside it! Make upper decks and lower decks, The tackle must be very strong, The bitumen [a kind of tar] strong . . . (Dalley 29-30) you just reminded me Noah's Ark was circular raft made of reeds, according to ancient tablet "Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall! Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions And save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same." Quoting: observation[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 10/02/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No need to imagine. Quoting: Seer777 The stories are everywhere... The bitumen [a kind of tar] strong . . . (Dalley 29-30) you just reminded me Noah's Ark was circular raft made of reeds, according to ancient tablet The Bronze Age collapse Quoting: Seer777 The Bronze Age collapse is a transition in southwestern Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age that some historians believe was violent, sudden and culturally disruptive. Cultural collapse of the Mycenaean kingdoms, the Hittite Empire in Anatolia and Syria, Egyptian Empire in Syria and Canaan interrupted trade routes and severely reduced literacy. In the first phase of this period, almost every city between Troy and Gaza was violently destroyed, and often left unoccupied thereafter: examples include Hattusa, Mycenae, Ugarit. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ok, that's interesting, what else? What else occurred during the 16th century BCE (1599-1500BCE)? 1500BCE: Vedas are composed. The Vedas (Sanskrit véda, "knowledge") are a large body of texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. Alluded to the existence of Vimanas: mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics. 1580 BCE:The Egyptians invented a new and better calendar. It is based on both the moon and a star. They observed the annual appearance of the brightest star in the sky, Sirius. This calendar was more advanced than the Babylonian calendar. 1550 BCE: Stonehenge is built 1540 BCE: History of ancient Israel and Judah—earliest date for Ahmose I founding the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt. 1534 BC—The oldest dated star chart was made in Ancient Egypt What happened in the 6th Millennium BCE (6000 BCE-5000 BCE)? Obviously the 5189 BCE date is toward the end of the 6th Millennium BCE. Quoting: Seer777 Quote Wiki: During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million. [link to en.wikipedia.org] What else? The Eruption of Mt. Etna. Quote Wiki: Thousands of years ago, the eastern flank of the mountain experienced a catastrophic collapse, generating an enormous landslide in an event similar to that seen in the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens. The landslide left a large depression in the side of the volcano, known as 'Valle del Bove' (Valley of the Ox). Research published in 2006 suggested this occurred around 6000 BC, and caused a huge tsunami, which left its mark in several places in the eastern Mediterranean. It may have been the reason the settlement of Atlit Yam (Israel), now below sea level, was suddenly abandoned around that time.[9] A massive volcanic landslide off of Mt. Etna, Sicily caused a mega tsunami which devastated the eastern Mediterranean coastline on three continents.(1) [link to en.wikipedia.org] I followed the citation and found this: Here it is: SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy Abstract Service Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, ``homogenite'' deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ~8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area. [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 10/02/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the size and power of the wave starting at 1:45 doesn't raise the hair on your arms...nothing will. imagine how some of our imaginative writers would have recorded that event 2000 to 5000 years ago No need to imagine. The stories are everywhere... The Story of Atrahasis. Sumerian Great Deluge Myth. [link to faculty.gvsu.edu] Wall, listen constantly to me! Reed hut, make sure you attend to all my words! Dismantle the house, build a boat, . . . Roof it like the Apsu So the sun cannot see inside it! Make upper decks and lower decks, The tackle must be very strong, The bitumen [a kind of tar] strong . . . (Dalley 29-30) Atrahasis gathers the elders of Shuruppak and makes up an excuse to leave town: he says that Enki and Enlil are angry with each other and that Enki has commanded him to go down to the water's edge. Which he does, and there he builds his boat and fills it with every type of animal (the text is fragmentary here) and his family. Adad begins to thunder, and sick with impending doom ("his heart was breaking and he was vomiting bile"), Atrahasis seals up the door of the boat with bitumen (Dalley 31). The storm and flood turn out to be more than the gods bargained for: Like a wild ass screaming the winds howled The darkness was total, there was no sun. . . . As for Nintu the Great Mistress, Her lips became encrusted with rime. The great gods, the Annuna, Stayed parched and famished. The goddess watched and wept . . . (Dalley 31-32) The great mother goddess complains bitterly about Enlil and Anu's shortcomings as decision-makers, and she weeps for the dead humans who "clog the river like dragonflies." :theripples: The difference lies in the ability to communicate it on an explainable level. Back then, concepts that correspond to natural phenomena are ascribed to personifications. The context is missing in many ancient accounts due to the lack of understanding of within those chronicles. Things that lack mystery in objective observation take on the subjective mystery of the chronicler. The key lies in sorting what parts of the story is about a personification since the data is corrupted. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 10/02/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did some more research on other possible volcanic events of note around 3500 years ago. The number of occurrences is a bit eerie. I am sure there are more, this was what I could find in under 10 minutes. Judge for yourself: Quoting: Seer777 The Eruption of Thera site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history 3500 years ago. Rincón de la Vieja Volcano is an active andesitic complex volcano in north-western Costa Rica, about 25 km from Liberia, in the province of Guanacaste. Little is known about Rincón de la Vieja's early eruptive history. It lies within a larger caldera, which indicates that a very large eruption probably occurred thousands of years ago. Analysis of nearby pyroclastic flow deposits shows that they were erupted in a moderately large eruption about 3500 years ago Mt.St.Helens happened 3500 years ago which produced 13 times more material than in 1980. Hayes Volcano Southcentral Alaska 1500 BC Hayes Volcano was largely destroyed in its last eruption about 3500 years ago and is difficult to detect, even from the air. It is believed Chato first erupted 38,000 years ago during the Pleistocene period and last erupted about 3,500 years ago. Costa rica Aniakchak (Alaska) erupted catastrophically about 3500 years ago and has exhibited much post-caldera activity. It is considered active, and consists of a 10 km-wide by 0.5 to 1.0 km deep caldera that was formed during this major eruptive event. I am sure there are more but you get the idea. thoughts? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |