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Quoting: aether :) David Whitmer said when Smith translated the Book of Mormon, he "put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine.
A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear.
Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man. Morning aether. Quoting: Seer777 funny how john dee and joseph smith both got similar feedback from similar artifacts remote sensing ancient objects (stones) prompted them both to write ancient "alphabet" into "alphabet" that made sense to them Quoting: aether prompts me to see "ark of the convent" process in action Quoting: aether [ link to en.wikipedia.org] It seems he gathered the stones over a series of years, finding his 'favorite' after helping dig a well. Urim and Thummin seemed to be the key however. Beginning in the early 1820s, Joseph Smith was paid to act as a "seer" in attempts to locate lost items and find precious metals hidden in the earth.
Smith's procedure was to place the stone in a white stovepipe hat, put his face over the hat to block the light, and then "see" the necessary information in the stone's reflections.
Smith had at least two seer stones, including a white stone that he found in about 1819, and a chocolate-colored stone that he found in 1822, both of which he used for treasure hunting. His favored stone, chocolate-colored and about the size of an egg, was found in a deep well he helped dig for one of his neighbors.
In 1827 Smith said he obtained the "Urim and Thummim" which was composed of two white stones, different from the previous two...
Nevertheless, some Mormons continued to believe in the power of seer stones even after the Mormon hierarchy experienced "a dramatic shift in attitudes toward folk magic" during the 1880s.
Even Brigham Young endorsed their use. In 1855, he reminisced,
"Joseph said there is a [seer] Stone for every person on Earth." At the first general conference after Smith's death, Young declared, "The president of the priests has a right to the Urim and Thummim, which gives revelation.
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