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Angels.. that seem fit..
But maybe that's not just it.. a choice is made "down" there.
Maybe you got the false dragons aswell! hmm
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Yes.

It seems as the story goes, that what comes out of the Abyss is doing God's Will, but then they are punished afterward?

scratching


Which reminds me of something AGC often mentions. That all the fallen were beloved angels of God but any small slight will land you in...Hell(?).

He is much better at explaining it.


False dragon?

You speak of Satan?
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An entire cluster can have these “shells”; in fact they are present around entire galaxies:
The Outer Shells of Centaurus A
[link to apod.nasa.gov]

Even from the galactic point of view; these “shells” a) don’t seem to be affected by gravity, b) the material does not “decouple from stars and fall into the nucleus” as theory says it “should” and c) how could “mergers” be the cause when there appears to be no sign of any significant ‘elongations’ of these “shells” in a direction that could be coordinated with a former “merger”? There is nary a hint of electromagnetic forces in the paper associated with The Outer shells of Centaurus A and stars are found within even these?:

Likewise with the “shells” of co-moving clusters and “finer substructures” within the same cluster as relates the local bubble. Yet, “This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all." - Opher
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How could this have been a long standing “puzzle”? – and clearly this has ramifications for “Milky Way Surrounded by Halo of "Hot Gas"!
NASA's Chandra Shows Milky Way Is Surrounded by Halo of Hot Gas
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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Interesting.

Thanks aether.


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Apollyon = Appolonius

Angels.. that seem fit..
But maybe that's not just it.. a choice is made "down" there.
Maybe you got the false dragons aswell! hmm
 Quoting: 1908247


Yes.

It seems as the story goes, that what comes out of the Abyss is doing God's Will, but then they are punished afterward?

scratching


Which reminds me of something AGC often mentions. That all the fallen were beloved angels of God but any small slight will land you in...Hell(?).

He is much better at explaining it.


False dragon?

You speak of Satan?
 Quoting: Seer777


hmm I have this so easy on my mind but I have trouble explaining..

What comes out is doing God's Will.. never really thought of it in those terms.. but it seems correct, after all we need people playing all parts.. the 'part' would be defined by what the person/soul/whatever did on his/its/whatever way through life/death/whatever

tounge

Hmm, I speak not of Satan, btw this is another concept hard to explain! The false dragons would be like the anti-christs, not denying that the anti-christ is also inside of each one of us..

I had a couple of experiences in which I could visualize this very well, let's see if I can explain..

YOu got above.. you got below.. and you got the Abyss..

Once you enter the abyss you get 'divided', maybe it's almost like you see your Ego as a separated part from you, as if you could see it manifested..
YOu don't necessarialy see it manifested, but you do see it in a whole other way..
So if the work is not done properly... well..hiding

Pistis Sophia comes to mind.. I should read the ninth repentance over again (:

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NASA's Chandra Shows Milky Way is Surrounded by Halo of Hot Gas

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Astronomers have used NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory to find evidence our Milky Way Galaxy is embedded in an enormous halo of hot gas that extends for hundreds of thousands of light years. The estimated mass of the halo is comparable to the mass of all the stars in the galaxy.

If the size and mass of this gas halo is confirmed, it also could be an explanation for what is known as the "missing baryon" problem for the galaxy...

... Chandra observed eight bright X-ray sources located far beyond the galaxy at distances of hundreds of millions of light-years. The data revealed X-rays from these distant sources are absorbed selectively by oxygen ions in the vicinity of the galaxy.

The scientists determined the temperature of the absorbing halo is between 1 million and 2.5 million kelvins, or a few hundred times hotter than the surface of the sun...

...This new research provides evidence the hot gas halo enveloping the Milky Way is much more massive than the warm gas halo...

..."It may extend for a few hundred thousand light-years around the Milky Way or it may extend farther into the surrounding local group of galaxies. Either way, its mass appears to be very large."...

...Baryons are particles, such as protons and neutrons, which make up more than 99.9 percent of the mass of atoms found in the cosmos. Measurements of extremely distant gas halos and galaxies indicate the baryonic matter present when the universe was only a few billion years old represented about one-sixth the mass and density of the existing unobservable, or dark, matter.

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The cause of thunder
[link to iopscience.iop.org]

Dethermalization

Yes, it's that easy. The flash of lightning is a flow of charge, with a radial electric field. That takes thermal energy in the surrounding atmosphere and translates it to radial energy, causing the observed shockwave. ALL of their observations are explained! [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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They need a mechanism to explain how dust and neutral gas(not ions), are efficiently lifted from a star in a bipolar(not spherical) manner. Looks a lot like the thunder problem, just on a larger scale.
I'll suggest that an increase in electric field of the star dethermalizes the surrounding gas. This takes the random thermal energy in the neutral gas and dust,and translates it to radial motion, and therefore outward pressure. If the current really does run through a star as in the EU model, this would explain the axial symmetry of the dust/neutral gas ejection.
So yes, Thornhill's model of stars is right, but he's forgotten the effect of dethermalization as outward pressure on neutrals. Correct me if I am wrong, but I did not see him mention it in his model of red giant shell ejections or pulsations. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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So, is a quasar some wave front that ionizes material in its path, with an enhanced electric field at its leading edge? Or does a quasar blow off the surrounding gas clouds under some intense pressure? It does both. If a quasar is a fast moving ionization front with an enhanced electric field, it MUST blow off the surrounding gas cloud.
The fact that the quasar does have an intense electric field at it's front, causes the dethermalization that blows off the gas. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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We've all seen lightning, and heard the resulting thunder. Scientists have been telling us that what happens is that the flash of lightning heats the air, causing it to expand. This rapid expansion is what we hear as thunder. There are two problems with that idea. We don't see enough heat to cause this much expansion. Also, the thunder spreads out more like we would expect from some electrical effect, than it would from heating. O.K.,enough about thunder.
We look out in space and see quasars. We are not really sure what they are. Some scientists think they are shooting out from galaxies, and that maybe they are some kind of electrical discharge. Now we see that gas seems to be blowing away from them so quickly, and it's difficult to explain that much expansion.
If you can see that whatever causes thunder to expand so quickly from a lightning bolt, might be the same thing that causes gas to expand so quickly from a quasar, then good for you. You already understand thunder and quasar gas clouds better than most scientists. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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YOu got above.. you got below.. and you got the Abyss..

Once you enter the abyss you get 'divided', maybe it's almost like you see your Ego as a separated part from you, as if you could see it manifested..
YOu don't necessarialy see it manifested, but you do see it in a whole other way..

So if the work is not done properly... well..hiding

Pistis Sophia comes to mind.. I should read the ninth repentance over again (:
 Quoting: 1908247


Understand the Ego's role.

The Ego does really nothing more than serve the Self.

It wants you to be great and pushes one to do so.


However, most peoples idea of what 'great' IS, is skewed.

Often thinking that is to accumulate wealth, titles and things.


There is a different layer of Ego which works along side you when your intention is to serve others.

Not the Self.

If one is not tied to labels, potential is limitless therefore the Ego never binds itself to said or feels the sting or rise from incoming stimuli related to such.


When one LOVES what they do, nothing else matters...

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Yes.. most people have this thought of "erradicating" the Ego, sometimes totally oblivious to its role in the whole thing..

My thoughts on that matter changed completely in one of those experiences I mentioned. I had a question in mind.. Why does Ego exist? What is its role? I got an answer! wink

As for the "choice made 'down' there", it's really interesting to read Revelations chapter 3.1 (fifth church) and chapter 16.10 (fifth vial).

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Yes.. most people have this thought of "erradicating" the Ego, sometimes totally oblivious to its role in the whole thing..

My thoughts on that matter changed completely in one of those experiences I mentioned. I had a question in mind.. Why does Ego exist? What is its role? I got an answer! wink

As for the "choice made 'down' there", it's really interesting to read Revelations chapter 3.1 (fifth church) and chapter 16.10 (fifth vial).

Ride a boat on your throat thumbs
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Thread: The Ego and Societal Transparency
Do not try to put your ego away. Don't try to put it down. It is a natural process. In natural processes, the harder you try to push something away, the harder it is to push away. You have to recognize it and let the emotions that it brings forth go through you without dwelling on it. This is all simplicity. Wisdom is recognizing the thought energy (because you have experienced it before) and not acting upon it. It is like in meditation when a thought comes to you but you do not dwell on it. It passes through you and upon coming out of meditation you do not even remember what those thoughts were. This is part of the process of awakening. It is awareness of our eternal selves no matter the form. Spiritual growth is the ability to transcend dualism. It is not the ability to push it away.
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Yes.. most people have this thought of "erradicating" the Ego, sometimes totally oblivious to its role in the whole thing..

My thoughts on that matter changed completely in one of those experiences I mentioned. I had a question in mind.. Why does Ego exist? What is its role? I got an answer! wink

As for the "choice made 'down' there", it's really interesting to read Revelations chapter 3.1 (fifth church) and chapter 16.10 (fifth vial).

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lol

Wot?


My throat chakra flutters all the time. It's fluttering now. All I have to do is think about it.

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Yes.

My questions are answered on occasion, as well.

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Apollyon = Appolonius

Angels.. that seem fit..
But maybe that's not just it.. a choice is made "down" there.
Maybe you got the false dragons aswell! hmm
 Quoting: 1908247


Yes.

It seems as the story goes, that what comes out of the Abyss is doing God's Will, but then they are punished afterward?

scratching


Which reminds me of something AGC often mentions. That all the fallen were beloved angels of God but any small slight will land you in...Hell(?).

He is much better at explaining it.


False dragon?

You speak of Satan?
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Maybe its like solomons ring? Something binding these against their will.
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Maybe its like solomons ring
? Something binding these against their will.
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hmm

Perhaps it's like a flaming sword...

Like the one which separated 'Adam and Eve' from the Garden...
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Seer, remember what I said about being divided?
I have this painting on my room, and on the night I had this experience I saw it manifesting on the image.. If you wanna try,,
Take this image:

[link to www.srivyuha.org]

Copy it to Paint, double the image to have two of them. Rotate one of them so it stays upside down, now put it right next to the other, putting their throat chakra right next to each other..

See the arms doing a wave?

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maybe the authors of our inherited information remote sensed (viewed) our era thus within our inherited information is the information that first we will see what we believe and only after we discover what we believed is not true will we see reality as described by our authors information
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Seer, remember what I said about being divided?
I have this painting on my room, and on the night I had this experience I saw it manifesting on the image.. If you wanna try,,
Take this image:

[link to www.srivyuha.org]

Copy it to Paint, double the image to have two of them. Rotate one of them so it stays upside down, now put it right next to the other, putting their throat chakra right next to each other..

See the arms doing a wave?
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I would like to get your thoughts on this if you will...


Why do you think the Serpent has such negative connotations as far as religious symbolism?

What was the real message?


Adam and Eve Mic

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why would anyone or anything write this on a piece of paper

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 Quoting: genesis 3 king james
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Can I get back to you later on that Seer? It's something I'd like to think better about, my mind kinda went on sleeping mode now tounge
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maybe the authors of our inherited information remote sensed (viewed) our era thus within our inherited information is the information that first we will see what we believe and only after we discover what we believed is not true will we see reality as described by our authors information
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why would anyone or anything write this on a piece of paper

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 Quoting: genesis 3 king james

 Quoting: aether


It certainly did take now didn't it.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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why would anyone or anything write this on a piece of paper

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 Quoting: genesis 3 king james

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It certainly did take now didn't it.
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Since, in the story, man has already been punished for eating of the tree of knowledge...for knowing evil...I don't see how the attempt to understand it is a bad thing.

The trick is in how one uses it.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 Quoting: genesis 3 king james

 Quoting: aether


Good question.

I assume the answer is the Key...


Perhaps the answer is Freewill.

Choice to do that which we have been asked not.


It seems, God doesn't like that to much.

His punishment were often harsh and brutal in the different myths of the Old Testament.

Not very loving IOW to the masses who lay on a side which is the opposite of Gods and his 'prophets'.



I have seen it mentioned that Yahveh is actually the bad guy if you will, due this tendency in the Old Testament

But perhaps he is just gets violently grumpy.

The story of Sodom and Gomorrah for example.

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we have discovered akhenaten and others, who called themselves hebrews by deign, left egpyt to live a different lifestyle to all of their regional traditions , inluding egypt, which believed planet god made flesh belief,aka the destroyer/saturn/mars etc
to follow a new belief of invisible god as remembered and practiced throughout the americas for thousands of years before them and in many other locations around our world

for a few hundred years, under constant attack by neighboring planet god believers the hebrews expressed deism
until the Babylonians marched in and imprisoned them all and took away their ark etc:

the hebrews were then forced to rewrite their story in keeping with the censor of babylon and the regions general planet god beliefs

we discovered the snake/serpent is electricity sign and we know the invisible god is electrical in nature
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we know the censor demanded the serpent was made into the bad guy in the hebrews new story and we know why

Book of Genesis
Scholars in the first half of the 20th century came to the conclusion that the Yahwist was produced in the monarchic period, specifically at the court of Solomon, and the Priestly work in the middle of the 5th century BC (the author was even identified as Ezra), but more recent thinking is that the Yahwist was written either just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century, and the Priestly final edition was made late in the Exilic period or soon after
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maybe the authors of our inherited information remote sensed (viewed) our era thus within our inherited information is the information that first we will see what we believe and only after we discover what we believed is not true will we see reality as described by our authors information
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Tonite's chat is on remote viewing...eyebrow
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you saw that huh tounge
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Sorry to chime in on this ,Its not about the external its internal hf

Romans 2:29

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

2 Corinthians 3:15 But even unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when they shall turn to the Lord the veil shall be taken away.

Acts 7:48 The most high dwells not in temples made with hands.

Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you.
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Sorry to chime in on this ,Its not about the external its internal hf

Romans 2:29

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

2 Corinthians 3:15 But even unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when they shall turn to the Lord the veil shall be taken away.

Acts 7:48 The most high dwells not in temples made with hands.

Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you.
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i get the picture
how do we say it
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Sorry to chime in on this ,Its not about the external its internal hf

Romans 2:29

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

2 Corinthians 3:15 But even unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when they shall turn to the Lord the veil shall be taken away.

Acts 7:48 The most high dwells not in temples made with hands.

Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you.
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


i get the picture
how do we say it
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:bw cats:

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looks like a new word(s)
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looks like a new word(s)
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The one thing an infant misses the most after it is born is the rythmic beating of the mothers heart hf
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The one thing an infant misses the most after it is born is the rythmic beating of the mothers heart hf
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to remain peaceful emotional experience following birth must match the beat of mums heart

that is a good start

For centuries, the heart has been considered the source of emotion, courage and wisdom. At the Institute of HeartMath (IHM) Research Center, we are exploring the physiological mechanisms by which the heart communicates with the brain, thereby influencing information processing, perceptions, emotions and health.
 Quoting: observation

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