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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27671008 Canada 11/17/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether hey dion probably i possess velocity i don`t posses time so i struggle with the word time No worries, it's when you look back. Some atonal meandering if fractal is our universe`s infinite memory (storage) and all is contained within the universe there is no back there is access to that which is always accessible (with you), labeled memory With everything seperated(individuated) there is a beginning enwrapped in an end. Memory being a function of within and without as much as a perspective point. Memory is in as much the relation as the function of where it is kept. As where it is kept is how it is viewed. It is all about Identity and Identification. Otherwise there are no delimiters to compare and no judgements. I agree as time is a secreted sphere and all points lead back to here no matter where the journey goes forth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6974121 United States 11/17/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... timely... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6974121 Civil-Lie-zation the problem began when human beings started identifying their creator in human form thus beginning their separation in taking the consciousness of being from the human being putting the humans in a dimension of unrecognized being the perception of creator human gods removed from earth created an emphasis on the human at the expense of being an altering of the consciousness of spiritual relation to earth shifting to human gods claiming authority over responsibility the perception of creator human gods brought the illusions that humans are superior to earth and all of her life forms with earth as property converting spiritual being into energy minded to obey, and to dominate earth for dominator gods using aggression to dominate the earth with civil-lie-zation plundering with the violence of programed fear and reaction naturalizing sexism, racism, and ruling class systems into life in realms of no love with out punishment no love without hate the double speak of collateral damage and wars for peace profiteering in practices of human sacrifice and ritual blood dividing god into multiple personalities with different names forcing humans of unrecognized being to pick a name to fight choosing sides in, which of illusions delusions to be loyal too with the promises of material gain and heaven and hell at stake ethics become rationalized abstracted death, as a way of living worshipping belief systems of acceptance of negative self worth humans of unrecognized being, in the gardens of good and evil John Trudell i understand that topic time Seeking to understand relation of/and to serendipity and synchronicity... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27671008 Canada 11/17/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... timely... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6974121 Civil-Lie-zation the problem began when human beings started identifying their creator in human form thus beginning their separation in taking the consciousness of being from the human being putting the humans in a dimension of unrecognized being the perception of creator human gods removed from earth created an emphasis on the human at the expense of being an altering of the consciousness of spiritual relation to earth shifting to human gods claiming authority over responsibility the perception of creator human gods brought the illusions that humans are superior to earth and all of her life forms with earth as property converting spiritual being into energy minded to obey, and to dominate earth for dominator gods using aggression to dominate the earth with civil-lie-zation plundering with the violence of programed fear and reaction naturalizing sexism, racism, and ruling class systems into life in realms of no love with out punishment no love without hate the double speak of collateral damage and wars for peace profiteering in practices of human sacrifice and ritual blood dividing god into multiple personalities with different names forcing humans of unrecognized being to pick a name to fight choosing sides in, which of illusions delusions to be loyal too with the promises of material gain and heaven and hell at stake ethics become rationalized abstracted death, as a way of living worshipping belief systems of acceptance of negative self worth humans of unrecognized being, in the gardens of good and evil John Trudell i understand that topic time Seeking to understand relation of/and to serendipity and synchronicity... On a long enough timeline both synchronicity and serendipity abound in relation to awareness. |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/17/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | feels like we are talking about tipping points ... Quoting: Villi VonderVeener Yes, but, what is it that has been piqued? What is the medium? And to that effect what is the message? Is it one of submersion of choice, reversion to previous choices by rejoining previous locales or is it a marriage of old and new which causes syncretic novelty? If there is no time in reality, the present or now affects/effects the past and the future. Time is that which is used to communicate perspective along with it's analog space. Without either, all images are wildcards tossed on the table of dynamic perspective. Rorschach with no memory to draw from. As memory is ordered and associated and therein may be manipulated by past or future incursion. feels like tipping point(s) accumulating memory is constantly utilizing it`self expression within the environment it accumulates it`s memory from Last Edited by aether on 11/17/2012 08:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27671008 Canada 11/17/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | feels like we are talking about tipping points Quoting: aether ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635 If there is no time in reality, the present or now affects/effects the past and the future. Time is that which is used to communicate perspective along with it's analog space. Without either, all images are wildcards tossed on the table of dynamic perspective. Rorschach with no memory to draw from. As memory is ordered and associated and therein may be manipulated by past or future incursion. feels like tipping point(s) accumulating memory is constantly utilizing it`self expression within the environment it accumulates it`s memory from Exactly, Awareness in a visual sense is an expansion and organization of stimuli. The question is what is the recurrent pattern that we are yet to get. How is the medium projecting this? I understand as I'm still trying to contextualize the rorschach I was tossed without the rosetta stone of the perspective of other. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6974121 United States 11/17/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of that I am aware... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6974121 Awareness and/or experience does not necessarily equate to understanding....which Initself is inevitably never complete....was interested in aether's perception of that understanding... :) No, that is correct, true understanding is being. Aye, was was speaking from my own subjective beings experience... (Thought)...trying to apply subjunctive to universal...hmmm |
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Cheshire~Cat User ID: 21285652 United States 11/17/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | aether I'm not usually too interested in the mechanics of this realm, but I was curious: how interested are you in timelines? It ties in with reincarnation and Karma. Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/17/2012 10:58 PM ~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few. ~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to. |
Cheshire~Cat User ID: 21285652 United States 11/17/2012 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I'll just go into the basics. Take it or leave it :) The physical and non physical realms, lets call them 3d and 4d, differ in a way most people aren't aware. In 3d, time is linear. In 4d, time is simultaneous. Same with reincarnation. In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously. Karma works the same way. If you have a basic concept of karma as most people do, that will suffice. You are spiritually linked with your former selves and at this moment: You, your former self, and your infinite probable future selves are interacting simultaneously. If you mess up in another timeline, it can be felt in this one. It goes even further. With the infinite future timeline probabilities, you might be experiencing the good or bad karma effects from another past or future self in a completely different timeline. Mostly you won't notice the good effects but mostly notice the bad effects, but I digress. Lets say that one of your selves is under stress. That stress reverberates throughout all of your selves. There are infinite universes, infinite probabilities and infinite timelines. Cloud connected. ~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few. ~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to. |
just a dude User ID: 9618710 United States 11/18/2012 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I'll just go into the basics. Take it or leave it :) Quoting: Cheshire~Cat The physical and non physical realms, lets call them 3d and 4d, differ in a way most people aren't aware. In 3d, time is linear. In 4d, time is simultaneous. Same with reincarnation. In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously. Karma works the same way. If you have a basic concept of karma as most people do, that will suffice. You are spiritually linked with your former selves and at this moment: You, your former self, and your infinite probable future selves are interacting simultaneously. If you mess up in another timeline, it can be felt in this one. It goes even further. With the infinite future timeline probabilities, you might be experiencing the good or bad karma effects from another past or future self in a completely different timeline. Mostly you won't notice the good effects but mostly notice the bad effects, but I digress. Lets say that one of your selves is under stress. That stress reverberates throughout all of your selves. There are infinite universes, infinite probabilities and infinite timelines. Cloud connected. How's this for good measure: The Circle of Life can be viewed as a wheel with 8 circumferential circles distributed evenly around the rim. In addition there is a wheel (hub) at the center, for a total of 10 circles (wheel circle plus hub circle plus 8 circles spinning around the rim. Quoting: just a dude It’s like a train on a circular track, where each circumferential circle is a separate train compartment. Within each compartment is a Timeline that a group of humans experience. Just like a train, the people in the compartment ahead of you are in your future. Those in the compartments behind you are in your past. All together on the rim are in the Timeline of the Solar System. The hub represents a connection to a shared and common past. Each train compartment has an intercom system and the center of each compartment is offset from the next compartment by a period of 6 months. So we can exchange information with every compartment. Those people from your Timeline who have passed the threshold of “death” (but remain in causality; i.e., have not ascended) are in a compartment ahead of you while those who have lived in past causal life cycles are in the compartments behind you. So you “died” in the compartment behind you and returned to the current Lifecycle. But you are communicating with all 10 Lifecycles via quantum entanglement. Some of these cycles you may have “died” in. At any one period of time, you are coexisting in as many as 8 Lifecycles, while always having the potential to communicate (or Ascend) to the Greater Cycle (rim), while also retaining communications with the Lesser Cycle (hub). Once ascended, you have “full” communication with all 10 Lifecycles. We coexist in the Greater Cycle while sharing the Earth in different Timelines that are shifted in Time. Some Lifecycles are in our future and some in our past. Once ascended, a human can “warp” into another Timeline. Since all Timelines are present on Earth at the same time. The considering that we “warp” in space when we move, we “warp” in time when we move. When you walk down the street you see your future ahead of you and your past behind you. Many just don’t have the ability to see into the future at least 6 months ahead. All the while we can see into our pasts via the interconnect of the central hub. The 8 cycles have a 6-month offset for a total of 48 months in the Greater Cycle, 4 years. The train is four years long and the last compartment is exiting the Greater Cycle in late 2012. To ascend is to be in Harmony with the Universe. We all are here to learn to “dance”, with the 4 elements of nature (Air-Water-Fire-Earth) and the three Fates. Seven dance partners who teach you their moves. When you start learning to dance with them, your Ascension has begun. Have you ever danced in “hell” with the three Fates? [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it happened again, glp awoke me at 08.10 and there was your post(s) this time i was energetically prompted to dress and walk, weather glories , sky nov blue, sun warm and inviting , our environment doing what it normally does , providing complementary dimension in which we emotionally experience (live) at what i now know to be approx 10.55 i noticed i was back to seeing the familiarity of my house in eye sight and knowing my metropolis i knew i had walked 10 miles or so where had i been in linear time an observer would utilize to record the distance i traveled (all measurement of distance fixed by our arbitrary fixing of light speed) the observer would know exactly where i was that whole time i would agree with the observer that i was here but i would be forced to tell the observer that although i was always aware i was here, my conscious 5% (self) of my conscious process mostly experienced not being here at all consequently my memory possess/retains the background orientation/comfortable sensation of this material dimension (location) only, that which the observer observed and could measure my memory of actually where i was and what i was doing i can explain to the observer but there is only two ways the observer will know what i am talking about i took them with me or observer and i possess common agreement how and why my conscious 5% self was not in this dimension while my physical presence within this dimension was observed this and related topics are the essence of our current 21st century debate within military and religious circles lovely posts Last Edited by aether on 11/18/2012 06:41 AM |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for some years in the uk our authorities have been running the following. 3 hospitals that possess isolated from all others operating theaters these theaters are regularly and randomly without staff prior knowledge "redecorated" in odd color and symbol which express a unique design when viewed from above the hospitals are national centers for crises patients that are expected to die imminently from out of the blue circumstances as in: a consistent flow of people whom suddenly are most likely are going to die no matter what medical assistance is administered the ones that do not die are two types those that remember nothing those that watched themselves being operated on from above Near-death experience [link to en.wikipedia.org] Out-of-body experience One in ten people has an out-of-body experience once, or more commonly, several times in his or her life but scientists still know little about the phenomenon Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by aether on 11/18/2012 07:02 AM |
aka User ID: 20093181 United States 11/18/2012 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for some years in the uk our authorities have been running the following. Quoting: aether 3 hospitals that possess isolated from all others operating theaters these theaters are regularly and randomly without staff prior knowledge "redecorated" in odd color and symbol which express a unique design when viewed from above the hospitals are national centers for crises patients that are expected to die imminently from out of the blue circumstances as in: a consistent flow of people whom suddenly are most likely are going to die no matter what medical assistance is administered the ones that do not die are two types those that remember nothing those that watched themselves being operated on from above Near-death experience [link to en.wikipedia.org] Out-of-body experience One in ten people has an out-of-body experience once, or more commonly, several times in his or her life but scientists still know little about the phenomenon Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] I would be interested in what 0, had to say about the bolded comments above. |
acuk User ID: 27994441 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is fascinating about the hospitals aether. Also I was reading Cheshire cats posts and it was exactly my thoughts on the subject just yesterday in an email to a friend I was disscussing my obe's and the being I have seen with the crest, when I have asked within who he was he is me is the answer received. For some time this has caused a confusion in me because I was still looking without although I believed I was looking within, I believed it was someone seperate from me, maybe my experiences I have been having have been a convergance of me, like my timelines are beginning to roll in to one I am being guided by my past present and future. Nice Sunday morning musing going on in my happy head today lol. |
acuk User ID: 27994441 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This looks really cool, everyone would all be walking about oohhing and ahhing hahaha. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27994441 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning cheshire , j.a.d Quoting: aether it happened again, glp awoke me at 08.10 and there was your post(s) this time i was energetically prompted to dress and walk, weather glories , sky nov blue, sun warm and inviting , our environment doing what it normally does , providing complementary dimension in which we emotionally experience (live) at what i now know to be approx 10.55 i noticed i was back to seeing the familiarity of my house in eye sight and knowing my metropolis i knew i had walked 10 miles or so where had i been in linear time an observer would utilize to record the distance i traveled (all measurement of distance fixed by our arbitrary fixing of light speed) the observer would know exactly where i was that whole time i would agree with the observer that i was here but i would be forced to tell the observer that although i was always aware i was here, my conscious 5% (self) of my conscious process mostly experienced not being here at all consequently my memory possess/retains the background orientation/comfortable sensation of this material dimension (location) only, that which the observer observed and could measure my memory of actually where i was and what i was doing i can explain to the observer but there is only two ways the observer will know what i am talking about i took them with me or observer and i possess common agreement how and why my conscious 5% self was not in this dimension while my physical presence within this dimension was observed this and related topics are the essence of our current 21st century debate within military and religious circles lovely posts This happens to people often, they stop perceiving time and find themselves discussing how quick the time has passed, time did not pass as it is only a measurement, they stopped measuring between experiences, maybe... |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of the patients interviewed possessing memory considered accurate by our authorities as in: saw all aspects of the color/symbol design they possess this in common: all felt themselves, experienced motion as in sitting, flying, hovering etc. but experienced it because they were doing it, they experience no material sensation of their doing it from our material dimension. as in: sitting on a window ledge to them was sitting on a window ledge because the desired to and did. they did not sense the actual ledge they experience only going to it (motion) and sitting on it , they replicated it`s location and sat on it in it`s location. they all hear sound but appear to receive sound from our material dimension via communicative intuition:as in they see surgeons talking and know what they are saying including accents etc. but they do not experience these sounds as they do these: the sounds that to them are heard by carried sound (wave) are unlike sound they have heard before when in body and most often are of musical tone, to them, often including trumpet like sounds etc: leading our authorities to consider the carried sounds are locational to the "dimension" they are in all see color normally none remember their shape, all know it was themselves of familiar shape but non remember noticing their arms or legs etc. although all know they are there: as in they experience the same sensations of possessing their bodies but never see their bodies none feel in both location , body in theater and themselves all know they are no longer in their material body and experience no sensation from it at all the time they experience is gauged by the length of time their observations took to perform and this varies from minutes to one or two hours they experience no sense of time while out of their body all returned into their bodies while in the theater, none know how and some regret doing so all appear profoundly thoughtful of their experience afterwards Last Edited by aether on 11/18/2012 08:37 AM |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not. Quoting: TheosophyI could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there. [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Last Edited by aether on 01/22/2014 07:23 AM |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep your Ison the skys, it's gonna be amazing if it happens :) And now talk of the supernova. Awesome stuff. So, from the standpoint of “stationary waves” (Tesla’s terminology) as applied to the solar system the overall system as a whole has its integrity and consistency ‘integrated’ with each individual ‘node’ whether harmonious or dissonant. Each ‘node’ is individually able to interact with the others singularly and/or jointly whether ‘relaxing’ or 'inducing' the ‘tensions’ that may occur within the confines of the overall integration. [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Quoting: TheosophyIs the sun's field "inducing" the comets to relax it's increasing (?) tension ? Quoting: observationThe comet is spiraling towards it's future rendezvous with the sun, right ? From reading the "G-Cloud is the Answer" it seems we are in the Z-pinch [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Last Edited by aether on 01/22/2014 07:24 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17984635 United States 11/18/2012 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | structure and function can never be separated Quoting: aether this is the suggested motive: the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016 maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff. But the phoenix fits. |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is a plasmoid going into the volcano, volcanoes are electrical in nature and magma is in a plasma state Quoting: aether they will enter a volcano in the same way they enter our sun, it is a natural habitat for them but it is not often we observe them going into volcanoes, normally they hover around them in their more common orb shape the other video seer showed of a similar cigar shaped object possessed a structure that looked less organic in design than a plasmoid los almos displays a volcano but discusses earthquakes The gases, solids, and liquids illustrated above can be brought back into a plasma state, from which they derived, by the application of intense energies, such as meteorite impacts, earthquakes, or nuclear explosions Quoting: Los Alamos[link to plasmauniverse.info] UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov Thread: UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov Last Edited by aether on 11/18/2012 09:45 AM |
aka User ID: 20093181 United States 11/18/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not. Quoting: TheosophyI could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there. The hydrogen and helium content of our heliosphere is being transformed. The interstellar environment has been leaking into our solar system for the last 30 - 40 years. This is a fundamental change in our environment of which the ramifications are unknown. This change to are solar system's environment is but one of many. What it portends is change is coming. [link to science.nasa.gov] |
aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 United Kingdom 11/18/2012 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | structure and function can never be separated Quoting: aether this is the suggested motive: the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016 maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff. But the phoenix fits. the phoenix fits very well indeed our universe is non material and material in dimension and we discovered that materiel expression(structure) of our material dimension from micro to macro is transitory scaled invariance materialization imagination will only see Quoting: aetherwhat awareness knows can be now we have through experience discovered information that explains the existence of our non material dimensions and their interactive connectivity to our material dimensions our sensitives among us are applying their new information are able to emotionally enter what their knowing now knows existence thus our remote sensing ability (imagination) can successfully translate into reality what it discovers within our non material dimensions and the reason our emotional remote sensing (imagination) can successfully and accurately fit into (enter) our non material dimensions is because , as we have discovered, our conscious process , our self aware self is constructed of the same ingredients as are our non material dimensions the baseline ingredients that are the essence/fabric of our dimensions generally is the same essence/fabric that is our self , traditionally labeled soul so becoming familiar with our non material dimensions not only alters how we construct our societies to mimic our environments self organizing self sufficiency, it gets us familiar with the dimensions that we emotionally remain sensitive within when we die (divest ourselves of material form) prior to us sensing where we next rebirth (are attracted to) and become emotionally material in expression again within our transitory scale invariance materialization (rebirth) process |
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