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Everyone who wants to live surfs. ;)

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Origins of the Kabbala begins with an analysis of the Book Bahir (taken largely from his doctoral thesis) a work Scholem claims emerges from a circle of mystics led by the enigmatic Isaac the Blind in Provence although he suggests some strata of this enigmatic work may originate in some unknown Jewish Gnostic groups. For Scholem, the Bahir is the first book of Kabbala
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Isaac the Blind, 1160-1235, the great Kabbalist rabbi of Provence
 Quoting: observation


Biot - the Counts of Provence gave Biot to the Templars in 1209.
 Quoting: observation


i wonder tounge
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I wonder if that is why this song was named as such...



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oh
sapt will know
he surfs
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Here is a spontaneous writing I did on it.

Thread: A Surfer Riding the Wave
It is true; only a surfer knows the feeling. It is one of supreme comfort, a moment of living in the now, riding the moving hills or the colossal mountainside faces of waves. Waves; truly alive like nothing else on the earth.

Powerful and beautiful, completely silent until the release of energy slams down on the beach shallows. The surfer accelerates as the breaking wave pulls water from the shoreline, racing over the shallows back out to sea, in an effort to sustain its compacting energy. The force embodied in the elemental begins folding over on itself as it rolls over the increasingly shallow ocean bottom. The sandy bottom creating a drag on the lower frequency oscillation of the wave while the higher oscillation is free to keep its momentum. The liquid – bound to the laws of physics – begins losing its ability to contain the energy. The wave frequency is being ripped apart.

Movement. Compression. Energy releasing through the water as it violently impacts back onto itself. This releasing of energy generates numerous, powerful underwater vortexes as the wave thunders down upon itself in an immediate need to dissipate the chaotic release of energy. Underwater turbulence. Physical. Powerful. Violent.

The surfer rides the structured wave form, its energy releasing as a constant white-water explosion chasing the surfer from behind. The process of being enveloped inside a living liquid vortex of nature is a lesson in Zen, a lesson in Tao. A timeless passage of right. All structures and concepts of time are impossibly compressed. All past memories, all of the plans or worries of the future are but transitory illusions from living in our societies. All unimportant now. The wave is being surfed and the surfer’s awareness is fixed on a dynamic wall of water.

The moment of getting ‘barreled’ – if you let me slip into my native tongue – is a moment of existing as one with the universe. It is a region in the Now, immobile yet accelerating. A region of polar duality. The center of the vortex. The surfer has arrived, both internally and externally, to the state of rigpa. It is a state of being that does not reside in a particular place for it is always moving, forever in motion. Changing. And yet there is always a center point. Dualism has not been separated; it has been built upon and transcended by the correct placement of consciousness obtained through the awareness and actions of a conscious mind and body. The surfer need not move. The surfer is in a state of supreme grace perfectly balanced inside the paradoxical universal serenity of structured wave stability and its violent structural collapse. A universe formed and living through the antithema of polarity. There is no thought. There is no sound. There is vast movement though the surfer’s mind and body are still. Their work is done. There is only the Now, the successful merging of body, mind and wave energy. The now expressed as being one with nature, of being one entity immersed in a natural vortex, the end stage of the wave, a tunnel of air wrapped with energy imbued liquid. Accelerating to a close… Right before our eyes.
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
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Madonna - Isaac

Madonna studies regularly with a personal Kabbalah Centre rabbi, no longer gives concerts on Friday night (which is the onset of Shabbat), wears the red string around her left wrist for protection and to ward off the "Evil Eye" (Ayin Hara), has introduced Jewish ritual objects such as tefillin ("phylacteries") into her videos and tithes regularly to the Kabbalah Centre.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
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ok, i will be first to guess, a Soul...
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


you sure are slow today in your repliestounge

lets get this psrty startedalien11
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I think Crowley put it best in the loose quotation: That they could logically facilitate the material function of said signs and symbols technically inherent, but did not have the immaterial will (belief) to make it function.

For that they need a true believer.
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
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I assume 'they' would have retained their prior knowledge, just their ability to communicate with one another was severed.

floweroflife



'Babel' sounds a lot like 'Bible'.
hmm

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I think Crowley put it best in the loose quotation: That they could logically facilitate the material function of said signs and symbols technically inherent, but did not have the immaterial will (belief) to make it function.

For that they need a true believer.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


... ... ...
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2464988




I assume 'they' would have retained their prior knowledge, just their ability to communicate with one another was severed.

:floweroflife:



'Babel' sounds a lot like 'Bible'.
hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


will raise your assume and tell you they know very well how to communicate. the program was designed to break their communication...lol. anybody seen olafhiding
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I think Crowley put it best in the loose quotation: That they could logically facilitate the material function of said signs and symbols technically inherent, but did not have the immaterial will (belief) to make it function.

For that they need a true believer.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


... ... ...
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Yes, full circle, with no bent of spiral: frustration, in the truest sense of the ego going before the fall.
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2464988




I assume 'they' would have retained their prior knowledge, just their ability to communicate with one another was severed.

:floweroflife:



'Babel' sounds a lot like 'Bible'.
hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Is everyone on the same page of knowing the Logos event inherent in the glossalallic fall?

The operation of what we call the small voice or uncle (theo, holy spirit, tongue, voice of the spore, in matriarchal circles Sophia)
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I think Crowley put it best in the loose quotation: That they could logically facilitate the material function of said signs and symbols technically inherent, but did not have the immaterial will (belief) to make it function.

For that they need a true believer.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Then they lacked the proper intent. The intention was distorted because what they felt inside was 'hollow'.
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


you sure are slow today in your repliestounge

lets get this psrty startedalien11
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haha

i went out
happy to hover there with no further thought on the topic

structure of soul/personality within the structure of all things

feels close
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2464988




I assume 'they' would have retained their prior knowledge, just their ability to communicate with one another was severed.

:floweroflife:



'Babel' sounds a lot like 'Bible'.
hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Is everyone on the same page of knowing the Logos event inherent in the glossalallic fall?

The operation of what we call the small voice or uncle (theo, holy spirit, tongue, voice of the spore, in matriarchal circles Sophia)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Is the importance of moon or sun estimated in the value of interlocuter of time?
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will raise your assume and tell you they know very well how to communicate. the program was designed to break their communication...lol. anybody seen olafhiding
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Yes, that was my point...



Hence the 'Jesus Fish'...

Is really the vesica piscis.

vesicapisces

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I think Crowley put it best in the loose quotation: That they could logically facilitate the material function of said signs and symbols technically inherent, but did not have the immaterial will (belief) to make it function.

For that they need a true believer.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Then they lacked the proper intent. The intention was distorted because what they felt inside was 'hollow'.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Not in the least, there is more then dreamt of in your philosophy Horatio. Locality plays advanced scout to choice and not all portals are as opened as they believe they are.
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I'm so lost right now.

I'm doing work and glancing back here every now and then, and getting all mixed up.
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I'm so lost right now.

I'm doing work and glancing back here every now and then, and getting all mixed up.
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No worries, work and metaphysical yammering is offputting at the best of times.
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Is everyone on the same page of knowing the Logos event inherent in the glossalallic fall?

The operation of what we call the small voice or uncle (theo, holy spirit, tongue, voice of the spore, in matriarchal circles Sophia)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Is the importance of moon or sun estimated in the value of interlocuter of time?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I have a very loose understanding of that word.

TBH, I usually 'fuzz out' after I read it and can't form a coherent image of what is being discussed in regards.

I have attempted to research it, but find myself against the same 'wall'.

:)


hf
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so what made the leap in our 1100`s back to egypt and before that enabled a symbol/sign to form showing life expression before babel
and
if that is true
the symbol/sign can only function when the beholders of the symbol/sign possess the knowing that was known before the babel event

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


that stumpted everybody it seems
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2464988




I assume 'they' would have retained their prior knowledge, just their ability to communicate with one another was severed.

floweroflife



'Babel' sounds a lot like 'Bible'.
hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


that is our tricky topic
was the symbol/sign known to us before we altered structure (babel event) and lost memory
or
is the symbol/sign that we discovered remained from pre babel event what visitors here left behind

because when you read our myths

is thoth associated with soul in our myths?
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If you can associate thoth with Gabriel...then i would say yes.

Wf
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yes thoth personality possess a different texture
this fits:

"Even today with us as advanced as we think we are almost every manifestation of a actual extraterrestrial civilization today would look almost like magic to us.
Where it has to do with technological electromagnetic systems that interface with coherent thought and organized thought
"
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they appear to be written by people (us?) observing and experiencing from what they observe
we never write it as if we are expressing ourselves
it is always something else telling us or us watching/experiencing

either way it does not matter
the symbol/sign functions to emotional information
it is not what is emotional, it is what the emotion contains no matter what is expressing the emotion
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I'm so lost right now.

I'm doing work and glancing back here every now and then, and getting all mixed up.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


In certain terms, we cannot always overwrite our previous programming. Some may be interred in the bone.
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This Gurdjieff?
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yes, there is only one by that name.

I'm not familiar with his work..but it sounds like that movie The Village...
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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i haven't watched movies in over twenty years, but i find it odd that you compare a hollywood scifi thriller, with the works of a man who spent over sixty years of his life in order to help mankind get thru whatever is coming in our near future.
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His teachings are antiquated but still hold value. He discusses vibrational frequency as densities and doesn't cover multidimensionalism but worth a read.
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Is everyone on the same page of knowing the Logos event inherent in the glossalallic fall?

The operation of what we call the small voice or uncle (theo, holy spirit, tongue, voice of the spore, in matriarchal circles Sophia)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Is the importance of moon or sun estimated in the value of interlocuter of time?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I have a very loose understanding of that word.

TBH, I usually 'fuzz out' after I read it and can't form a coherent image of what is being discussed in regards.

I have attempted to research it, but find myself against the same 'wall'.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Imagine your entire life as being visually impaired. Imagine having a facilitator between you and everything explaining what you are seeing.

That is it in a nutshell.
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I'm so lost right now.

I'm doing work and glancing back here every now and then, and getting all mixed up.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


No worries, work and metaphysical yammering is offputting at the best of times.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


lol, I've been doing it for close to 3 years now.

rockon
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I'm so lost right now.

I'm doing work and glancing back here every now and then, and getting all mixed up.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I have this deer in the headlight feeling going on lol

like being caught in between


blink ,blink blink, blink stare

blink

hmm
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Imagine your entire life as being visually impaired. Imagine having a facilitator between you and everything explaining what you are seeing.

That is it in a nutshell.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I see.

So I can equate the Logos to a 'seeing eye dog' for the blind?

Logos as...the 'Voice of God'?

hmm



Daniel was always likening the Logos to mirrors...144,000 of them I believe.

Like Indra's Net I assume.


Not sure, as I find him hard to follow...most likely due to the 'Logos' topic.

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it is coming up it is not what has been said about the symbol/sign
it is it`s design without words

any one know where the kabbalah logo came from ?





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