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i have met innocence in the context of your topic
it exists as a person(s)
very pronounced archetype features/expression of innocence that i could not have imagined without meeting/knowing myself
Quoting: aether oh good that's what I thought you meant...I understood the rest of your post...thank you Aether...I think you answered it perfectly within the topic of innocence and the opposite but
could there exist an idividual that has both qualities of divinity and being diabolical at the same time? Asking anyone out there. Such heavy energy around me this past hour it's like I will try to grasp this answer then I can move through it..
Cause there are always other questions waiting to be asked 
okay after reading some stuff my mind is spinning but this question of an entity being divine and diabolical at the same time is confusing me. This is what I found...
In her book, `The Secret Doctrine` Blavatsky wrote, "Lucifer represents life, thought, progress, civilisation, liberty, independence. Lucifer is the Logos, the Serpent, the Saviour" and "It is Lucifer who is the God of our planet and the only God", and she continues, "The celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time, for she is the ever loving beneficent deity, but in antiquity and reality, Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the Holy Ghost and Satan at one and the same time".
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link to rense.com]
Then I found this quote which I liked :D
Divine,diabolical, sacred , profane , sinner, saint, unconditional love,forbidden lust. These are the different faces of God.
Deepak Chopra
So the answer to my question is Lucifer who is the creator who wears many faces? Confusing stuff here...I don't know why this question nags me so...probably because in my mind to be divine is not to be diabolical...
this is one of my favorite questions/discussions: what/who is Lucifer? (i'll refer to him as lucy)
and the first answer is always: many things to many people. absolute consensus does not exist and so in the end, you have to choose.
that being said, we can look at the old stories and within ourselves and think a bit.
lucy is/was an angel. there are many angels. angels are aspects of God's mind. so: angel =/= God, but part of God.
most agree on this interpretation.
further, lucy was named 'the bright light' of heaven. in some translations: the torch bearer. he was/is a pretty badass angel
then, something happened and he was 'removed' from the kingdom of heaven: lots of diferent stories around why and how, so we'll just leave it at the more simple what: somehow/why 'disconnected' from the rest of the angels and God.
thats the 'story' so far (well, my interpretation, anyway)
what follows is my own thought (subject to probable future change)
the angels are a metephores for the various aspects of God's mind. Since God and us are 'made in the same image', emerge from the same Rules, then all humans have analogs of the angels within us (or maybe a subset...?), including lucy.
this is important: Lucy is at one and the same time an angel and an aspect of the human mind. what ever we say about lucy , we say about ourselves: all of us.
what madame Blavatsky says is , in my opinion, partially correct.
Namely:
lucy = the logos = the logical mind = conscious ideas and processing. he is responsible for civilisation, much progress (in cleverness anyway) and independence.
he is the loudest voice in our conscious awareness: usually.
he has "ideas".
his aspect also gives rise to what i call 'the observer' within us. The one that always sees whats happening and will tell you (if u listen), but has no power to change anything or act in any way. The observer can be quite annoying when all you can do is hear his voice but haven't learned to rally the other aspects to actually implement change: sucks to watch one's self fail and have no power to change it.... this passes eventually, btw
his ideas are so strong, in fact, that we can be mislead by them, and can be infected by other human's ideas and be mislead by them as well, hence: the 'deceiver'
we have elevated him and his logical thought, his complexly beautifull ideas, as the 'guiding light' of our current civilisation (most of the last 12k years actually), or "god' in fact. our false god.
but that sad truth (for him and most/many? humans) is that, like our logical thought, lucy is limited, obsessed with control, and usually incorrect: a close aproximation perhaps, but in the end: off the mark.
his delishiously sweet ideas, so compelling, so easy to manipulate: mostly incorrect. usefull in the short term, but always off the mark if not guided by the deeper mind: the rest of the kingdom of heaven.
lucy is a fantastic pilot, but a terrible navigator.
The "all Father" that has lost his way cuz he denies the Mother.... and doesn't ever *listen*.
he is a strong (and very new) aspect to all our minds and a huge part of ascension is about realizing this truth and learning to put him in his proper place.
and listen to the true Navigator within.
just a little boy too full of his own awesomeness,,,,,
and whether we like it or not.
this will change.for some, that change will be devastating. and for others: liberating.
