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Hey Fringe, well I have been cold few a few weeks, but recently I have been nice and comfortably warm, and now Im hot and my hands are tingling, like you said more my right :)
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Hey Fringe, well I have been cold few a few weeks, but recently I have been nice and comfortably warm, and now Im hot and my hands are tingling, like you said more my right :)
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The supernatural is called supernatural because it is not part of the natural world, the real world.
 Quoting: observation


feedback says /z\

we are true \z/

which leads us to /z\ today \z/

[
We assume that since objects we can visibly see interact by touching, that all must be this way. Yet an electron does not touch the nucleus and most scientists would say an aether is not a reality. Also it is quite idiotic to assign properties to space as if it were a medium, and then call it a vacuum. Sort of like saying geometry controls the path of objects, as if geometric lines were a reality. The theorists live in a world of mathematical symbols where anything is possible within the bounds of the equations. And sometimes outside those bounds when they need to divide by zero. The real world does not work this way. Every single theory that exists requires faith that certain non proven assumptions are true. All current theories presume action at a distance or action caused by nothing at all, yet frown upon that very phrase. I say all theories are incorrect and all theories are correct, and the answer lies in a blending of different disparate theories. It is separating the facts from the fantasy where the problem arises.
I expect that like fish, we remain unaware of the sea we move in. But even an ocean is mostly empty space, even though it may feel solid like to you and me. So even in water there remains action at a distance as the molecules are bound by forces that do not require those molecules to touch. You may have faith that something physical binds them, but it must remain faith as no evidence exists that confirms this. You may believe that all force is transferred by contact, but no evidence exists that confirms this, as all observations that this is so breaks down at the micro scale. You may choose to believe as I that our technology is insufficient to the task, but that is still faith in a non proven assumption. You may have faith that a designer exists, which in an EU universe I would not be so unwise as to argue against such as thought is energy along pathways and the universe is connected by pathways of energy.

So regardless of which theory you follow, they all require faith. [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]
 Quoting: observation


faith into reality is inevitable

is the sensation
tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


How does your brain work? Are you saying that since thought is nothing more than electrical actions along a pathway, then scientifically no being of pure thought could exist along the paths that connect the universe? Your brain is made up of the same molecules that make up the universe, the current that makes your thoughts possible the same as the currents that flow throughout the universe. There is no difference except a matter of scale, and the belief you may think it impossible. But that is still just belief. Not that I say there is, but I don't say there isn't either, the facts as you say include that possibility. Supernatural or just currently unexplainable by science, as gravity is unexplainable by current science? I know, we have lots of math to explain gravity, but what is it really? A fact based upon AAAD that in reality we know nothing about and could easily be called supernatural, since that is all supernatural is, something unexplainable by current knowledge and science. Lightning was once caused by the gods, today we have a scientific explanation. Life was once created by god, today we have a...ok, today we still don't have a scientific explanation. Supernatural by definition since we have never observed life from non-life. Big Bang or just always there, supernatural by definition. Ex nihilo or effect without cause, both violations of current science. By definition, supernatural. [link to www.thunderbolts.info (secure)]
 Quoting: obervation


step by step tounge

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All but One.
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I was thinking about your statement, and it resonates for me, as in there is one I have not mentioned, although I danced with and was shown, he breathes in and out, in order to see I can have no preconceptions and therefore have no name!
but I have not mentioned his name, so its true, All but One!
 Quoting: klaireyb 30025911


the two

good morning

To imply such a thing is to note that everything in existence is literally connected, one thread to another to form the blanket of Reality which we know as The Universe...?
 Quoting: hilospp


yes
both the non material dimensions and material dimension

if you think about it there must be

you can never have something withing nothing

thus there is always something within something , whatever that something may be

thus 2 is the smallest number in nature
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


*smiling*

ultimatly/fundamentally i think u might be right, aether.
this truth might explain why we always come back to the duality: the pair of resisting forces.

u say something needs something else.
i say something needs something else to push against: to stabilize against.

but Dion's thinking and others sujest that it might be quadality (lol thats not a word).

that the most basic number might be 4.
this feels right to me.


either way, it certainly is not zero... or one.


but then again: oneness and manyness are a matter of perspective, yes?
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All but One.
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I was thinking about your statement, and it resonates for me, as in there is one I have not mentioned, although I danced with and was shown, he breathes in and out, in order to see I can have no preconceptions and therefore have no name!
but I have not mentioned his name, so its true, All but One!
 Quoting: klaireyb 30025911


the two

good morning

To imply such a thing is to note that everything in existence is literally connected, one thread to another to form the blanket of Reality which we know as The Universe...?
 Quoting: hilospp


yes
both the non material dimensions and material dimension

if you think about it there must be

you can never have something withing nothing

thus there is always something within something , whatever that something may be

thus 2 is the smallest number in nature
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


*smiling*

ultimatly/fundamentally i think u might be right, aether.
this truth might explain why we always come back to the duality: the pair of resisting forces.

u say something needs something else.
i say something needs something else to push against: to stabilize against.

but Dion's thinking and others sujest that it might be quadality (lol thats not a word).

that the most basic number might be 4.
this feels right to me.


either way, it certainly is not zero... or one.


but then again: oneness and manyness are a matter of perspective, yes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hehe
2 is as far in/back as all goes
from their forwards
there is always 3,4,5,6,7,.......................

hugs

oh

i will leave their there hearts
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In 1967, the Maharishi's fame increased and his movement gained greater prominence when he became the "spiritual advisor to The Beatles" The Maharishi met The Beatles in London in August 1967, and they went to study with him in Bangor, Wales, before travelling to Rishikesh, India in February 1968 to "devote themselves fully to his instruction". Starr and his wife Maureen left after ten days McCartney and Jane Asher left after five weeks, and Lennon and Harrison departed 16 days later. During their stay, the Beatles heard that the Maharishi had made sexual advances towards Mia Farrow. and Harrison commented years later, "Now, historically, there's the story that something went on that shouldn't have done — but nothing did" The New York Times and The Independent reported that the influence of the Maharishi, and the journey to Rishikesh to meditate, weaned The Beatles from LSD and inspired them to write many new songs, including Lennon's condemnation of the Maharishi in a song called Sexy Sadie. In 2009, McCartney commented that Transcendental Meditation was a gift The Beatles had received from the Maharishi at a time when they were looking for something to stabilise them.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


the maharishi also inspired Lucas during his stay in northern california and before he picked up his crew and moved to Fairfield, Iowa.

Lucas was writing Star Wars at the time.

the Maharishi = Yoda


and then Lucas stayed in northern cali and got fat and the Yoda founded a world wide movement. i been to Yoda's castle. tizz a very unique place. in some ways the most unique i have ever encountered.

too bad he's dead: i shoorly would have liked to converse with him.
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The supernatural is called supernatural because it is not part of the natural world, the real world.
 Quoting: observation


feedback says /z\

we are true \z/

which leads us to /z\ today \z/

[
We assume that since objects we can visibly see interact by touching, that all must be this way. Yet an electron does not touch the nucleus and most scientists would say an aether is not a reality. Also it is quite idiotic to assign properties to space as if it were a medium, and then call it a vacuum. Sort of like saying geometry controls the path of objects, as if geometric lines were a reality. The theorists live in a world of mathematical symbols where anything is possible within the bounds of the equations. And sometimes outside those bounds when they need to divide by zero. The real world does not work this way. Every single theory that exists requires faith that certain non proven assumptions are true. All current theories presume action at a distance or action caused by nothing at all, yet frown upon that very phrase. I say all theories are incorrect and all theories are correct, and the answer lies in a blending of different disparate theories. It is separating the facts from the fantasy where the problem arises.
I expect that like fish, we remain unaware of the sea we move in. But even an ocean is mostly empty space, even though it may feel solid like to you and me. So even in water there remains action at a distance as the molecules are bound by forces that do not require those molecules to touch. You may have faith that something physical binds them, but it must remain faith as no evidence exists that confirms this. You may believe that all force is transferred by contact, but no evidence exists that confirms this, as all observations that this is so breaks down at the micro scale. You may choose to believe as I that our technology is insufficient to the task, but that is still faith in a non proven assumption. You may have faith that a designer exists, which in an EU universe I would not be so unwise as to argue against such as thought is energy along pathways and the universe is connected by pathways of energy.

So regardless of which theory you follow, they all require faith.
 Quoting: observation


faith into reality is inevitable

is the sensation
tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


How does your brain work? Are you saying that since thought is nothing more than electrical actions along a pathway, then scientifically no being of pure thought could exist along the paths that connect the universe? Your brain is made up of the same molecules that make up the universe, the current that makes your thoughts possible the same as the currents that flow throughout the universe. There is no difference except a matter of scale, and the belief you may think it impossible. But that is still just belief. Not that I say there is, but I don't say there isn't either, the facts as you say include that possibility. Supernatural or just currently unexplainable by science, as gravity is unexplainable by current science? I know, we have lots of math to explain gravity, but what is it really? A fact based upon AAAD that in reality we know nothing about and could easily be called supernatural, since that is all supernatural is, something unexplainable by current knowledge and science. Lightning was once caused by the gods, today we have a scientific explanation. Life was once created by god, today we have a...ok, today we still don't have a scientific explanation. Supernatural by definition since we have never observed life from non-life. Big Bang or just always there, supernatural by definition. Ex nihilo or effect without cause, both violations of current science. By definition, supernatural.
 Quoting: obervation


step by step tounge
 Quoting: aether


lol

yep.

it makes me giggle every time i consider this thought.

i think that for us (with regards to our minds and where its seat mught be), the next step is to relaize that the mind does not live in the brain/head.
if we can come to a better understand of mind function and its basic electrical/magnetic nature, we might be abale to grip the idea of larger minds more easily.

i mean, we *have* been told as below so above and even by the christians that we are 'made' in the image of God: made by the same processes.

to my thinking, if we really consider the nature of the microbial life within us (someone earlier sujested that 'mitichlorians = microbes: lol) and its deep nessessary roll in our physiology, we must also consider their roll in our mind function.
we are a collony of life that *thinks* its a singular entity.
our minds live in our center of gravity and our colonial nature supports a field that houses the mind of the entity thats thinsk of its self as a singular enitity.

what does this say about the nature of God


bouncing bouncing offa yer thoughts tis morning aether
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And the LORD (ELETRICITY) said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
 Quoting: King James Gen.11



so now we have our whole globe from our americas to china how it functioned (emotionaly wxpressed/lived) pre babel

neeto tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


Yes.

Quite a gift it is. Now if we could only change our understanding of the way language is used.

Stating belief as fact in general discourse I stumble on continually. And it can be quite damaging to forward progress as far as discussion goes.

Especially when the falsehood is accepted as truth.

:)
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[link to www.publish.csiro.au]

The above link shows the relationship between the sun's rotation rate and the sun's motion around solar system barycenter. But we know that rotation rate is a function of current input to stars, with greater current input driving up rotation rate.
Let's sum up what we know so far:
1. The sun revolves around the solar system barycenter every eleven years.
2. This motion carries the sun up and down through the galactic electric field, driving our solar cycle.
3. The sun's rotation rate is also affected, giving further evidence that it is electric fields/currents that are at work.
4. Solar wind speed is inversely related to coronal temperatures, again what you would expect because a stronger electric field means greater current (solar wind),and more dethermalization.
5. Some solar cycles are more pronounced,because of major planets being on the same side of the sun, magnifying the sun's motion around solar system barycenter.


The link between temperature and solar cycle is interesting. : [link to www.skepticalscience.com]

So temperatures are related to the solar cycle, which is in turned caused by the sun's motion through background electric fields. The question I'll ask is: If the short period variations in temperature are caused by the sun moving around the solar system barycenter, could the long term variations in temperature be caused by a longer term motion of the sun (around a binary,or birkeland current spiral,etc)?
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And the LORD (ELETRICITY) said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
 Quoting: King James Gen.11



so now we have our whole globe from our americas to china how it functioned (emotionaly wxpressed/lived) pre babel

neeto tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


Yes.

Quite a gift it is. Now if we could only change our understanding of the way language is used.

Stating belief as fact in general discourse I stumble on continually. And it can be quite damaging to forward progress as far as discussion goes.

Especially when the falsehood is accepted as truth.

:)
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good morning tounge
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...


I was thinking about your statement, and it resonates for me, as in there is one I have not mentioned, although I danced with and was shown, he breathes in and out, in order to see I can have no preconceptions and therefore have no name!
but I have not mentioned his name, so its true, All but One!
 Quoting: klaireyb 30025911


the two

good morning

...


yes
both the non material dimensions and material dimension

if you think about it there must be

you can never have something withing nothing

thus there is always something within something , whatever that something may be

thus 2 is the smallest number in nature
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


*smiling*

ultimatly/fundamentally i think u might be right, aether.
this truth might explain why we always come back to the duality: the pair of resisting forces.

u say something needs something else.
i say something needs something else to push against: to stabilize against.

but Dion's thinking and others sujest that it might be quadality (lol thats not a word).

that the most basic number might be 4.
this feels right to me.


either way, it certainly is not zero... or one.


but then again: oneness and manyness are a matter of perspective, yes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hehe
2 is as far in/back as all goes
from their forwards
there is always 3,4,5,6,7,.......................

hugs

oh

i will leave their there hearts
 Quoting: aether


maybe.

but two pair could also appear as one pair.
question of perception scale.

three twopair quadalities locked in a triune could, at the 'right' perceptual scale appear to be three.

is this the result of 'particle based' thinking?
can gravity really be expressed as a singularity?

i do not know.
and i too can leave it there....
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1 Heart
2 Halves
4 Chambers

the most efficient thermodynamic generator on the planet :)

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if life is simplicity within complexity
god has always been visible in electricity
then our universe is never dead but alive
and we discover how and why we all arrive

rockon
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if life is simplicity within complexity
god has always been visible in electricity
then our universe is never dead but alive
and we discover how and why we all arrive

rockon
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Supernatural by definition since we have never observed life from non-life.
 Quoting: observation


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if life is simplicity within complexity
god has always been visible in electricity
then our universe is never dead but alive
and we discover how and why we all arrive

rockon
 Quoting: aether


Supernatural by definition since we have never observed life from non-life.
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


rockon
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and in telling that i notice i can not begin to imagine the experience of this coming year or two
which is weird for me
note:
i am talking about my experience (coming)

tounge talking aloud to myself
 Quoting: aether


I think I am understanding the words you sometimes use, aether.

Were in good shape.
..and others of similar context.

This realization has to do with the thread I created Friday.
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Morning aether, everyone.

I have strange sense about me today. I am not sure what it is but it feels a bit like frustration.

I am hoping it will pass soon.



I know what it is...it's the somewhat upsetting notion that man's fears of that which is labeled unknown, twists perception in such a way that ones who are trying to help, are demonize and destroyed.

Why this tendency?

Is it religious programming?

Witch burning for instance.

hmm
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just a note
the first time we got a "lock" onto the mayan calendar was 2007 and it translated:

"all become shaman"

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tounge alien03
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What I have been wishing for, so that others may 'experience'.

rockon
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I feel a distinctly different buzz today ...

it feels like Hope hf
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and in telling that i notice i can not begin to imagine the experience of this coming year or two
which is weird for me
note:
i am talking about my experience (coming)

tounge talking aloud to myself
 Quoting: aether


I think I am understanding the words you sometimes use, aether.

Were in good shape.
..and others of similar context.

This realization has to do with the thread I created Friday.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hugs
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if life is simplicity within complexity
god has always been visible in electricity
then our universe is never dead but alive
and we discover how and why we all arrive

rockon
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simplicity is that not binary, you said two but Im thinking 1 + 0

oh there was a big flash of lightning just then!
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Morning aether, everyone.

I have strange sense about me today. I am not sure what it is but it feels a bit like frustration.

I am hoping it will pass soon.



I know what it is...it's the somewhat upsetting notion that man's fears of that which is labeled unknown, twists perception in such a way that ones who are trying to help, are demonize and destroyed.

Why this tendency?

Is it religious programming?

Witch burning for instance.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


this is funny
it has been "warm" for this time of year all day and sunny, i have been out a lot
since writing that rhythm and while reading your post i heard "rain" on the window behind the now closed curtains and i listened thinking "that odd" because there has been no sign
as i listened one clap of thunder rolled

now i have not looked outside and i can no longer hear rain but a million people must have heard that thunder "out of the blue"
not my imagination
so
guess i am not the only one with an opinion on your topic tounge

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if life is simplicity within complexity
god has always been visible in electricity
then our universe is never dead but alive
and we discover how and why we all arrive

rockon
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simplicity is that not binary, you said two but Im thinking 1 + 0

oh there was a big flash of lightning just then!
 Quoting: klairey 30025911


Yes.

I wrote that earlier but I am on a friends tablet which I find frustrating to use.

Tounge

phi
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and in telling that i notice i can not begin to imagine the experience of this coming year or two
which is weird for me
note:
i am talking about my experience (coming)

tounge talking aloud to myself
 Quoting: aether


I think I am understanding the words you sometimes use, aether.

Were in good shape.
..and others of similar context.

This realization has to do with the thread I created Friday.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hugs
 Quoting: aether


Good morning...er, afternoon.

hugs
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just had some heavy rain with thunder and lightening in London. thought that's unusual considering we're in the begining of winter.
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Thread: thunder and lightening in London

/z\
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replay tounge

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"If we are going to survive this, you must realize that fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Now, do not misunderstand me; danger is very real. But fear is a choice.
"Do you know where we are?
"This...is Earth."

(from the movie: After Earth)
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"If we are going to survive this, you must realize that fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Now, do not misunderstand me; danger is very real. But fear is a choice.
"Do you know where we are?
"This...is Earth."

(from the movie: After Earth)
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hollywood says all thing on earth, that are not human, have evolved to kill human

i wonder why they provide that message to support the quote?
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"If we are going to survive this, you must realize that fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Now, do not misunderstand me; danger is very real. But fear is a choice.
"Do you know where we are?
"This...is Earth."

(from the movie: After Earth)
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hollywood says all thing on earth, that are not human, have evolved to kill human

i wonder why they provide that message to support the quote?
 Quoting: aether


hollywood also tells in the same message that earth has been quarantined as a result of this indicating that this is an earth only issue





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