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aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many people who are born blind claim to "see" images in their dreams, but what they're actually referring to is an experience, rather than a picture. In the Hartford study, a congenitally blind 46-year-old man reported a dream in which he went to the hospital to see his first grandchild. Upon questioning, it came to light that what he referred to as "seeing the baby for the first time" actually meant the experience of meeting him, hearing him cry and holding him. Similar experiences were reported by other study participants, who also referred to "seeing" when describing scenes from their dreams, even though the scenes were based completely on tactile and auditory memories. [link to curiosity.discovery.com] Quoting: observationLast Edited by aether on 01/23/2014 08:44 AM |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be true Quoting: aether There are two categories of blind people Quoting: observation(1). Who are blind by birth : These people do not see colors in their dream. Their dreams includes only noises & emotions. (2). Who became blind due to any happening in life: These people see colors in their dreams but the intensity of the colors is associated with the time when they last seen the colors in their original life before being blind. I doubt that. I am sure they experience taste and smell as well, having both those senses heightened due to necessity. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no physical sense's are required,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 the mind creates the perfect catch within a blind throw,, everybody can do this,, and little pratice is required within an open mind,, much love,, In what regard? Without physical sense of any kind...there would be nothing...? It reminds me of a question I asked a blind man, when I was 8. He came to my school to speak during one of the school assemblies. Students were allowed to ask questions and I asked him what 'color he saw?' I figured that 'blind' meant to live in a type of sheet of 'one color'. For example, if one closes their eyes while decreasing light exposure the color will change behind the eyelids. From red to blue, to what have you. He said to me, "Imagine trying to see out of your elbow..." It still sticks with me to this day. :) that suggests the color you see is the color you remember it to be and if memory starts here and sight was never clear you could never know what is the color glow And there is the rub. The world is not as it is, but as we create it within our minds. The more accurately we paint it's potentials the more we can harness them. As we harness them, we free them as oursel es. Through true understanding we merge. |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be true Quoting: aether There are two categories of blind people Quoting: observation(1). Who are blind by birth : These people do not see colors in their dream. Their dreams includes only noises & emotions. (2). Who became blind due to any happening in life: These people see colors in their dreams but the intensity of the colors is associated with the time when they last seen the colors in their original life before being blind. I doubt that. I am sure they experience taste and smell as well, having both those senses heightened due to necessity. :) the next post down to that one gets it |
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aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and my memory by default goes to non material that is why i had the color odd mix until i was in my early 20`s yes my memory for most things, well all things, defaults to what i know (remember), non material i match what i discover material to what i know(remember) as non material i have always known i do that without thought but never talked about it because who want to discuss it with you without feeling uncomfortable talking to an odd person Last Edited by aether on 12/29/2012 09:30 PM |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and my memory by default goes to non material Quoting: aether that is why i had the color odd mix until i was in my early 20`s yes my memory for most things, well all things, defaults to what i know (remember), non material i match what i discover material to what i know(remember) as non material i have always known i do that without thought but never talked about it because who want to discuss it with you without feeling uncomfortable talking to an odd person :) Memory...holds the mirror. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And there is the rub. The world is not as it is, but as we create it within our minds. The more accurately we paint it's potentials the more we can harness them. As we harness them, we free them as oursel es. Through true understanding we merge. and the odd thing about that is we superimpose belief onto reality so we fit believed cause onto reality affect imagine when we fit reality cause onto reality affect |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dion,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 truth just is,, to be without,, would be a simple misconceptional perception of personal attainment by another,, or a judgement,, niether are true,, and yet truth just is,, much love,, Not in the least. Otherness is exemplary of misunderstanding and finitude. Being outside is an action of conciousness and sight. Again, A question of density and temporary separation. By definition, definitions are systemic and to be understood one must be within that space or have passed through it. Only 1 stands both within and without as 1 is without understanding and as such measurement to encompass it within ( a system) |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and my memory by default goes to non material Quoting: aether that is why i had the color odd mix until i was in my early 20`s yes my memory for most things, well all things, defaults to what i know (remember), non material i match what i discover material to what i know(remember) as non material i have always known i do that without thought but never talked about it because who want to discuss it with you without feeling uncomfortable talking to an odd person :) Memory...holds the mirror. sorry to yack about myself it feels good to tell oh memory holds the mirror hah clever you i never looked at that that way we will utilize that Last Edited by aether on 12/29/2012 09:40 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30416591 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not in the least. Otherness is exemplary of misunderstanding and finitude. Being outside is an action of conciousness and sight. Again, A question of density and temporary separation. By definition, definitions are systemic and to be understood one must be within that space or have passed through it. Only 1 stands both within and without as 1 is without understanding and as such measurement to encompass it within ( a system) the perfect unrealised agreement,, to be without,, would be a simple misconceptional perception of personal attainment by another,, much love,, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dion,, especially liked your,, "but thats with prediction" quote,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 the relevance is within the practice,, and the mind can not only predict linear it can practise easily beyond normal sensory perceptions,, flex them mind muscles,, regularly,, much love,, Predication was the word. As knowing an act was founded or predicated by previously experiencing it. Otherwise you are experiencing novelty and as such must mechanically inculcate others into your system by defining it's parameters. The more this system reflects reality the more timeless it will become. For reality as truth is timeless when unleashed through true understanding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit And as a reflection it works at lights speed. Thus memory is the ersatz replica of timeless, immovable perfection. It happens before it happens as balance is ............ without need or question |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit that means no use looking back when you have no memory you look forwards until you discover that which provides you with ability to live in a manner that provides memory that fits when you look back (remember) in our era it is never our memory that gives us what we require it is our discoveries see where this is going |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit that means no use looking back when you have no memory you look forwards until you discover that which provides you with ability to live in a manner that provides memory that fits when you look back (remember) in our era it is never our memory that gives us what we require it is our discoveries see where this is going We know where this is going. Through the looking glass. |
nobody User ID: 30416591 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Predication was the word. As knowing an act was founded or predicated by previously experiencing it. Otherwise you are experiencing novelty and as such must mechanically inculcate others into your system by defining it's parameters. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The more this system reflects reality the more timeless it will become. For reality as truth is timeless when unleashed through true understanding. time does not,, nor ever did or ever will,, exist,, other than within the limitations of linear perception,, time is an abstract concept of man,, yet within the boundaries of such limitations,, predictions are plausibly attainable,, without the use of normal sensory perception,, truth never requires others restraintative logical acceptance to define it,, it just is,, much love,, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Predication was the word. As knowing an act was founded or predicated by previously experiencing it. Otherwise you are experiencing novelty and as such must mechanically inculcate others into your system by defining it's parameters. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The more this system reflects reality the more timeless it will become. For reality as truth is timeless when unleashed through true understanding. time does not,, nor ever did or ever will,, exist,, other than within the limitations of linear perception,, time is an abstract concept of man,, yet within the boundaries of such limitations,, predictions are plausibly attainable,, without the use of normal sensory perception,, truth never requires others restraintative logical acceptance to define it,, it just is,, much love,, Time, as is all measurement, is the basis to understand the deliniation of form. As even nothing is delineated by this transition. And as such truth connects. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit that means no use looking back when you have no memory you look forwards until you discover that which provides you with ability to live in a manner that provides memory that fits when you look back (remember) in our era it is never our memory that gives us what we require it is our discoveries see where this is going We know where this is going. Through the looking glass. Memory as in...that which we utilize to reflect action and reaction. One learns very quickly that fire=hot. However like Dion mentioned, when one is presented with novelty there is no basis of understanding or learned proper course of action for the potential of said cause. That's when we grab, for whatever we can get. To make sense. And sometimes even after that struggle, all one can do is jump...and hope for the best. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Predication was the word. As knowing an act was founded or predicated by previously experiencing it. Otherwise you are experiencing novelty and as such must mechanically inculcate others into your system by defining it's parameters. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The more this system reflects reality the more timeless it will become. For reality as truth is timeless when unleashed through true understanding. time does not,, nor ever did or ever will,, exist,, other than within the limitations of linear perception,, time is an abstract concept of man,, yet within the boundaries of such limitations,, predictions are plausibly attainable,, without the use of normal sensory perception,, truth never requires others restraintative logical acceptance to define it,, it just is,, much love,, Time, as is all measurement, is the basis to understand the deliniation of form. As even nothing is delineated by this transition. And as such truth connects. And time is also an action of transition in material space. As I have said the separator of perspectives point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit that means no use looking back when you have no memory you look forwards until you discover that which provides you with ability to live in a manner that provides memory that fits when you look back (remember) in our era it is never our memory that gives us what we require it is our discoveries see where this is going We know where this is going. Through the looking glass. Memory as in...that which we utilize to reflect action and reaction. One learns very quickly that fire=hot. However like Dion mentioned, when one is presented with novelty there is no basis of understanding or learned proper course of action for the potential of said cause. That's when we grab, for whatever we can get. To make sense. And sometimes even after that struggle, all one can do is jump...and hope for the best. :) And therein we have survival and the drive to understand and relate being in a form that will travel seamlessly. |
nobody User ID: 30416591 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lovely to converse with you dion,, agreed,, time is simply mans construct measurement,, limited by mans linear belief perception,, a prison of mind binded and blinded from hidden truths,, the blinded eyes required to see this,, are mindfully sighted indeed,, much love,, ps.. sleepy too now aether,, goodnight,, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 12/29/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lovely to converse with you dion,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 agreed,, time is simply mans construct measurement,, limited by mans linear belief perception,, a prison of mind binded and blinded from hidden truths,, the blinded eyes required to see this,, are mindfully sighted indeed,, much love,, ps.. sleepy too now aether,, goodnight,, Cheers, but it needn't be linear. As it becomes what we can accept in relation to that which exists. The torrus itself holds it's form as function and with it's overlapping emanations jumps through nothing lead to something. sleep on it. 3 |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Memory as in...that which we utilize to reflect action and reaction. One learns very quickly that fire=hot. However like Dion mentioned, when one is presented with novelty there is no basis of understanding or learned proper course of action for the potential of said cause. That's when we grab, for whatever we can get. To make sense. And sometimes even after that struggle, all one can do is jump...and hope for the best. :) Does this make sense? As far as how one determines a proper choice in the face of new experience. I think this happens more often then people are willing to admit. Often when feeling pressed for time. For example, in a type of combat situation. One runs on adrenaline and the experience is new. How to react is uncertain. One can only rely on past training and experiences to take their next steps. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong, as we have seen throughout history. Wrong choices often birthed through impulsive behavior. On the other hand however, is the bliss of making the proper choice. And riding that wave to where ever it take you. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | memory holds the mirror Quoting: aether is the meaning of memory holds the key the key is a mirror that feels to me it changes things quite a bit that means no use looking back when you have no memory you look forwards until you discover that which provides you with ability to live in a manner that provides memory that fits when you look back (remember) in our era it is never our memory that gives us what we require it is our discoveries see where this is going We know where this is going. Through the looking glass. Memory as in...that which we utilize to reflect action and reaction. One learns very quickly that fire=hot. However like Dion mentioned, when one is presented with novelty there is no basis of understanding or learned proper course of action for the potential of said cause. That's when we grab, for whatever we can get. To make sense. And sometimes even after that struggle, all one can do is jump...and hope for the best. :) the people aspect of our reality represent that to me which is really what all is all about environment read people hope for the best because you can and will only ever find out by finding out the horror would be to manifest fear enough to prohibited finding out imagine that to choose alone and not attempt to be not alone if prompted to attempt people do i believe shut down their response to the prompt of others no matter what the prompt (person) says/is that feels living death to me jump.....and hope for the best because the jump it`s self is heaven Last Edited by aether on 12/29/2012 10:28 PM |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lovely to converse with you dion,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 agreed,, time is simply mans construct measurement,, limited by mans linear belief perception,, a prison of mind binded and blinded from hidden truths,, the blinded eyes required to see this,, are mindfully sighted indeed,, much love,, ps.. sleepy too now aether,, goodnight,, sleep well |
aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 United Kingdom 12/29/2012 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does this make sense? As far as how one determines a proper choice in the face of new experience. I think this happens more often then people are willing to admit. Often when feeling pressed for time. For example, in a type of combat situation. One runs on adrenaline and the experience is new. How to react is uncertain. One can only rely on past training and experiences to take their next steps. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong, as we have seen throughout history. Wrong choices often birthed through impulsive behavior. On the other hand however, is the bliss of making the proper choice. And riding that wave to where ever it take you. :) if i notice the wave (feedback) enough to want to ride it i was looking for it, thus i ride |