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aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether maybe we should think upon what is that describing closed loop system is what within what to be a closed loop system within and there is no movement but that transfered from baseline is what movement in everything caused by movement in something labelled baseline if yes what is the base line the base line of and to be a base line it must possess structure to describe The image I got regarding 'baseline' was of a drop of water hitting a pool of water. The initial 'drop' and subsequent waves after... Perhaps the baseline is the structure/function that occurs through synergy. In other words, the baseline is transient and dependent upon complexity as well as locality/environment of interacting relationships. That would let it be embedded within everything still, and would be associated (defined) within movement and interactions through complexity. Much like we see electricity and magnetics at one state of complexity. And at others we see human biology. At micro/quantum states, the baseline is perceived to function one way, and as we go up through complexity, it is perceived to act entirely different. By finding the patterns of synergy through various states of complexity we can find the 'baseline'. baseline (possibly crossing over and appropriate to 13) is the regular pattern that is, subject to duration and amplitude. we understand information as data that stands apart from the baseline. We recognize 'abnormality' when it stands asside from normality(baseline). we measure our position (and velocity) from a baseline(which is always moving cuz everything moves). and its a choice, yes? a choosing of the relative reference. and in choosing new baselines: if only this process were trully digital (on and off), but no, its analog and represents a process that blends/fades and the boundary more a choice than a fact. and sometimes even the direction changes. dammit. remembering we are within the slow dimension (light velocity) of a multidimensional conscious universe now we are getting somewhere the baseline is the emotion that knows how and why it knows is the structure we are progressively describing as our emotions feel it`s knowing to tell remembering that local traditional sees perfection static everything that could be has been thus is perfectly known thus perfected thus perfection this is not conscious process conscious processes is velocity and feedback conscious process is always quicker than what it is conscious of that which is conscious process is structured (exists) thus perfection is the quickest structure of all things it knows what can never occur because it is to quick for what will never occur to occur knowing what will never occur makes not knowing what may occur the motive for being this is perfection see the emphasis change /z\ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19535695 United States 02/08/2013 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was just busy pondering the different spectrum's that energy comes to us in the form of information in. How many of us are into the violet or the x-ray spectrum moving into the gamma ray spectrum vibrations we pick up on |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/08/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty cool. I was trying to describe what we have been describing recently, aether, but as you can see, my words were limited and I couldn't describe certain things properly at the time. This was written 20 or so years ago. It sounds very much like I was trying to describe Indra's Net. Quoting: Septenary Man A Conscious Fog The universe is all created through thought patterns. All matter manifests itself through the idea of manifestation before the actuality of the macro, as well as micro, come into physical maturation. These thought patters are not only created/evolved from human conception/conceptualization, but from a consciousness lying deeper in vibrational level than normal human perception. The Spirit Realms; though without matter, mind without body. Quoting: Fog of ConsciousnessImagine an empty sky. No horizon, no clouds, no sun, no moon, stars. This sky is filled with a transparent fog. It stretches everywhere, permeates every space, and is all in that sky. As it is the only thing existing, it is everything and nothing. The only way for there to be something is a reaction in relationship, some way to look upon itself, compare itself, interact with itself. Since this fog is clear, it is, in actuality, it is Nothing. At the same time it is Everything because there is nothing else but this infinite nothingness, or in our model, this clear fog. This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting. Our normal consciousness lies in that area of at leas two levels/modes of reality. The first level/mode is thought, the second level/mode is manifestation of those thoughts, being either/both subjective and/or objective existence. Subconscious is the complete blend of these two models. Is is instantaneous action (manifestation) and causation, of and during, the thought process. That brings us back to our fog that is Nothing and Everything; our awareless, dormant energy of thought. It instinctively blooms into awareness of itself. It has to. It must, for if the only thing in existence is unaware of itself, it is nothing. And, as we know, we are aware of ourselves. In order to be aware of itself (ourselves) it must be able to reflect upon itself. So it becomes reflections of thought patterns, and through fracticality, it reflects through infinity, all manifesting the same space and all subconsciously knowing that they are One. And so a step is made in awareness, intelligent and sentient, instantly and continuously manifesting the all pervading Fog of Consciousness. that is remarkable actually chad :nacholibre: |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 02/08/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "closed loop system" Quoting: Seer777 I keep hearing this in regard to what I mentioned on Dion's thread last night... This: :kleinbottle: as this :infinity: I also saw the single(un-mirrored) 'klein bottle' sticking out of our bodies...if that makes sense. Dunno...just thought I would mention to get this monkey wrench off my back. I don't think it needs to stick out, as it evidences the ambiguity of in and out. Like waves, there is no movement but that transfered from baseline. I just saw this in a different way... Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'. Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago. No movement but that transferred from baseline... In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...? Is that right? One breath in, one out. In, out... Just musing. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw this in a different way... Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'. Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago. No movement but that transferred from baseline... In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...? Is that right? One breath in, one out. In, out... Just musing. what is breath visible sign of life thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious) thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s) Last Edited by aether on 02/08/2013 01:43 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/08/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw this in a different way... Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'. Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago. No movement but that transferred from baseline... In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...? Is that right? One breath in, one out. In, out... Just musing. what is breath visible sign of life thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious) thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s) In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/08/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether as in not knowing the meaning of what you feel (conscious) in a conscious environment (universe) ? The you is a predefined variable. A statue if you will. Until you realize you are not you, you cannot move. You simply repeat like a recording. Novelty is the induction and subduction of other. I had a sleeping thought that wasn't me last night. In order to exist we must induce 9 others not to. we experience different reality from same location not unusual most common experience on this earth although i never did move when i was non material as you know everything else moved motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so now i know motion i will always move material or not i imagine Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. |
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aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw this in a different way... Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'. Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago. No movement but that transferred from baseline... In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...? Is that right? One breath in, one out. In, out... Just musing. what is breath visible sign of life thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious) thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s) In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's? i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to as in: translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 |
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aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The you is a predefined variable. A statue if you will. Until you realize you are not you, you cannot move. You simply repeat like a recording. Novelty is the induction and subduction of other. I had a sleeping thought that wasn't me last night. In order to exist we must induce 9 others not to. we experience different reality from same location not unusual most common experience on this earth although i never did move when i was non material as you know everything else moved motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so now i know motion i will always move material or not i imagine Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. no infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to Last Edited by aether on 02/08/2013 02:04 PM |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 02/08/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. no infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/08/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just saw this in a different way... Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'. Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago. No movement but that transferred from baseline... In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...? Is that right? One breath in, one out. In, out... Just musing. what is breath visible sign of life thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious) thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s) In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's? i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to as in: translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 0 is the sphere(total spatial(measureable(finite)))awareness. There are infinite 0's. These are nested each in other creating the action which creates them. As each defines and is defined in it's opposite. |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. no infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known knowing what it is in practical manner is where our topic is going to |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/08/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether we experience different reality from same location not unusual most common experience on this earth although i never did move when i was non material as you know everything else moved motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so now i know motion i will always move material or not i imagine Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. no infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to No?, lol Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and Isness(realization). An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function. Beads laced together by unhindered potential. |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether what is breath visible sign of life thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious) thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s) In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's? i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to as in: translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 0 is the sphere(total spatial(measureable(finite)))awareness. There are infinite 0's. These are nested each in other creating the action which creates them. As each defines and is defined in it's opposite. but we know 2 things a sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being both structurally and emotionally and there can be no sphere around infinite |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no Quoting: aetherinfinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to No?, lol Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and Isness(realization). An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function. Beads laced together by unhindered potential. but we know 2 things Quoting: aethera sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being both structurally and emotionally and there can be no sphere around infinite Last Edited by aether on 02/08/2013 02:21 PM |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 02/08/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. Quoting: Seer777 So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known knowing what it is in practical manner is where our topic is going to Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT. One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally. Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no Quoting: aetherinfinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to No?, lol Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and Isness(realization). An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function. Beads laced together by unhindered potential. but we know 2 things Quoting: aethera sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being both structurally and emotionally and there can be no sphere around infinite you are talking about the buddha pattern that by design fits all other designs i believe it is true such a design does exist we are forming the details for it`s design organic craft design |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/08/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. Quoting: Seer777 So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known knowing what it is in practical manner is where our topic is going to Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT. One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally. Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness. :) I have a thread that talks about that. Let me see if I can find it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036731 Canada 02/08/2013 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether although i never did move when i was non material as you know everything else moved motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so now i know motion i will always move material or not i imagine Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity. Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity) You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness) This supposes movement without need. no infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to No?, lol Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and Isness(realization). An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function. Beads laced together by unhindered potential. Why is it always assumed that infinity is a monodirectional function? It is not constrained by any law, but shows us it's perfect action in the patterns it creates ineffect. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/08/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. Quoting: Seer777 So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known knowing what it is in practical manner is where our topic is going to Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT. One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally. Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness. :) I have a thread that talks about that. Let me see if I can find it. Thread: Insight on Frozen LIGHT the background to his seeing/thinking is that as all is manifested and sustained via input from aether...the rotating magnetic field....what effects we make and observer are signals moving from point to point within the aether field within the micro up scale....nothing moves in the traditional sense....this is the origin of all all frozen light... Quoting: aetherIf instead of thinking of anything as been seperate, You instead focus Your mind on the universe beinga solid, then try and comprehend that every finite point in that solid can become anything as it re-orientates subject to the magnetic field it is subjected to. Then You can view the tornado differently as a direct result of the magnetic loops re-orientating the smallest particles to switch in the magnetic fields orientation. The more complex and much more compressed particles and larger resist more the switching but are still trying to switch in the magnetic fields direction. Thus the articles that are so called "PICKED UP" by the tornado are in fact trying to become the tornado and are not seperate - as is nothing - all is ONE. This is difficult to verbalise as it is not part of our normal thinking. We view all as seperate, but if I was stood near You, and you moved aside and I moved to where You had just been, then I would be composed in the same stuff that You had been. I would not be moving though, I would switch every finite particle as I encountered it, thus all movement is switching limited, including light and all signals. |
aether (OP) User ID: 33708517 United Kingdom 02/08/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once. Quoting: Seer777 So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary. That's how I understood it. :) knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known knowing what it is in practical manner is where our topic is going to Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT. One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally. Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness. :) the only moving thing is consciousness for our universe because all structure inclusive of us contains said consciousness but no structure inclusive of us is universal consciousness thus the 2 you (consciousness) all that is not you (consciousness) 2 different structures for ever once you have been visualized by it |