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maybe we should think upon what is that describing
closed loop system is what within what to be a closed loop system within
and
there is no movement but that transfered from baseline
is what
movement in everything caused by movement in something labelled baseline
if yes
what is the base line the base line of
and
to be a base line it must possess structure to describe
 Quoting: aether


The image I got regarding 'baseline' was of a drop of water hitting a pool of water.

The initial 'drop' and subsequent waves after...

Planetindrop
 Quoting: Seer777


Perhaps the baseline is the structure/function that occurs through synergy. In other words, the baseline is transient and dependent upon complexity as well as locality/environment of interacting relationships.

That would let it be embedded within everything still, and would be associated (defined) within movement and interactions through complexity.

Much like we see electricity and magnetics at one state of complexity. And at others we see human biology. At micro/quantum states, the baseline is perceived to function one way, and as we go up through complexity, it is perceived to act entirely different.

By finding the patterns of synergy through various states of complexity we can find the 'baseline'.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


baseline (possibly crossing over and appropriate to 13) is the regular pattern that is, subject to duration and amplitude.

we understand information as data that stands apart from the baseline. We recognize 'abnormality' when it stands asside from normality(baseline).

we measure our position (and velocity) from a baseline(which is always moving cuz everything moves).

and its a choice, yes? a choosing of the relative reference.

and in choosing new baselines: if only this process were trully digital (on and off), but no, its analog and represents a process that blends/fades and the boundary more a choice than a fact.


and sometimes even the direction changes.



dammit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


remembering we are within the slow dimension (light velocity) of a multidimensional conscious universe


now we are getting somewhere
the baseline is the emotion that knows
how and why it knows is the structure we are progressively describing as our emotions feel it`s knowing to tell
 Quoting: aether





remembering that local traditional sees perfection static

everything that could be has been thus is perfectly known
thus perfected
thus perfection
this is not conscious process
conscious processes is velocity and feedback
conscious process is always quicker than what it is conscious of
that which is conscious process is structured (exists)
thus perfection is the quickest structure of all things

it knows what can never occur because it is to quick for what will never occur to occur
knowing what will never occur makes not knowing what may occur the motive for being
this is perfection

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


see the emphasis change /z\
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Greetings Everyone hugs

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 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


hi fringe cheer
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Greetings Everyone hugs

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 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


hi fringe cheer
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Was just busy pondering the different spectrum's that energy comes to us in the form of information in.

How many of us are into the violet or the x-ray spectrum moving into the gamma ray spectrum vibrations we pick up onhmm
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This is pretty cool. I was trying to describe what we have been describing recently, aether, but as you can see, my words were limited and I couldn't describe certain things properly at the time. This was written 20 or so years ago. It sounds very much like I was trying to describe Indra's Net.

A Conscious Fog
The universe is all created through thought patterns. All matter manifests itself through the idea of manifestation before the actuality of the macro, as well as micro, come into physical maturation. These thought patters are not only created/evolved from human conception/conceptualization, but from a consciousness lying deeper in vibrational level than normal human perception. The Spirit Realms; though without matter, mind without body.

Imagine an empty sky. No horizon, no clouds, no sun, no moon, stars. This sky is filled with a transparent fog. It stretches everywhere, permeates every space, and is all in that sky. As it is the only thing existing, it is everything and nothing. The only way for there to be something is a reaction in relationship, some way to look upon itself, compare itself, interact with itself. Since this fog is clear, it is, in actuality, it is Nothing. At the same time it is Everything because there is nothing else but this infinite nothingness, or in our model, this clear fog.

This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

Our normal consciousness lies in that area of at leas two levels/modes of reality. The first level/mode is thought, the second level/mode is manifestation of those thoughts, being either/both subjective and/or objective existence. Subconscious is the complete blend of these two models. Is is instantaneous action (manifestation) and causation, of and during, the thought process.

That brings us back to our fog that is Nothing and Everything; our awareless, dormant energy of thought. It instinctively blooms into awareness of itself. It has to. It must, for if the only thing in existence is unaware of itself, it is nothing. And, as we know, we are aware of ourselves. In order to be aware of itself (ourselves) it must be able to reflect upon itself. So it becomes reflections of thought patterns, and through fracticality, it reflects through infinity, all manifesting the same space and all subconsciously knowing that they are One.

And so a step is made in awareness, intelligent and sentient, instantly and continuously manifesting the all pervading Fog of Consciousness.
 Quoting: Fog of Consciousness

 Quoting: Septenary Man


that is remarkable actually chad thumbs
 Quoting: aether


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"closed loop system"


I keep hearing this in regard to what I mentioned on Dion's thread last night...



This:

:kleinbottle:

as this

:infinity:


I also saw the single(un-mirrored) 'klein bottle' sticking out of our bodies...if that makes sense.

Dunno...just thought I would mention to get this monkey wrench off my back.

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


I don't think it needs to stick out, as it evidences the ambiguity of in and out. Like waves, there is no movement but that transfered from baseline.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I just saw this in a different way...

Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'.

Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago.

No movement but that transferred from baseline...

In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...?

Is that right?
scratching

One breath in, one out. In, out... hmm

Just musing.

hf
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I just saw this in a different way...

Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'.

Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago.

No movement but that transferred from baseline...

In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...?

Is that right?
scratching

One breath in, one out. In, out... hmm

Just musing.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


what is breath
visible sign of life
thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious)
thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design
visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s)

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Yes, Dion i am answeing you at the same time you are typing your questions.
 Quoting: 0 25768968


Lol, assumptions and statements. No Questions. ;)
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I wonder what the geometry of breath looks like on a spiritual scale hmm the deep hidden science of it , we know air has shape because of the molecules in it ..

just musing
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I just saw this in a different way...

Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'.

Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago.

No movement but that transferred from baseline...

In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...?

Is that right?
scratching

One breath in, one out. In, out... hmm

Just musing.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


what is breath
visible sign of life
thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious)
thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design
visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s)
 Quoting: aether


In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's?
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as in not knowing the meaning of what you feel (conscious) in a conscious environment (universe) ?
 Quoting: aether


The you is a predefined variable. A statue if you will. Until you realize you are not you, you cannot move. You simply repeat like a recording.

Novelty is the induction and subduction of other.



I had a sleeping thought that wasn't me last night. In order to exist we must induce 9 others not to.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


we experience different reality from same location
not unusual
most common experience on this earth
 Quoting: aether


although i never did move when i was non material as you know
everything else moved
motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so
now i know motion
i will always move
material or not
i imagine
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
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I just saw this in a different way...

Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'.

Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago.

No movement but that transferred from baseline...

In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...?

Is that right?
scratching

One breath in, one out. In, out... hmm

Just musing.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


what is breath
visible sign of life
thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious)
thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design
visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s)
 Quoting: aether


In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to
as in:
translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design

breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes

i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 tounge
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The you is a predefined variable. A statue if you will. Until you realize you are not you, you cannot move. You simply repeat like a recording.

Novelty is the induction and subduction of other.



I had a sleeping thought that wasn't me last night. In order to exist we must induce 9 others not to.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


we experience different reality from same location
not unusual
most common experience on this earth
 Quoting: aether


although i never did move when i was non material as you know
everything else moved
motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so
now i know motion
i will always move
material or not
i imagine
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no
infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge

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Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no
infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether


I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
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I just saw this in a different way...

Concerning breath(s) and 'how many'.

Both Sept and I thought it was '1' in Dion's thread a few days ago.

No movement but that transferred from baseline...

In a closed system loop such as postulated above, it would seem that one breath would keep it moving indefinitely...?

Is that right?
scratching

One breath in, one out. In, out... hmm

Just musing.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


what is breath
visible sign of life
thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious)
thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design
visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s)
 Quoting: aether


In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to
as in:
translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design

breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes

i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 tounge
 Quoting: aether


0 is the sphere(total spatial(measureable(finite)))awareness.

There are infinite 0's.

These are nested each in other creating the action which creates them.

As each defines and is defined in it's opposite.
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Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no
infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether


I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known
knowing what it is in practical manner
is where our topic is going to
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we experience different reality from same location
not unusual
most common experience on this earth
 Quoting: aether


although i never did move when i was non material as you know
everything else moved
motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so
now i know motion
i will always move
material or not
i imagine
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no
infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether

No?, lol


Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and
Isness(realization).

An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function.

Beads laced together by unhindered potential.
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what is breath
visible sign of life
thus the structural visible sign of life (breath) confirms communication (existence of) something alive (conscious)
thus once comfort arises what the living something is communications takes shape in infinite form all of the same design
visible sign(s) of emotional statement(s)
 Quoting: aether


In all equations infinity becomes the dominant paradigm. Are we assuming infinity breathes or do all 0's?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i am utilizing others experiences to explain why they experience what they do and what it is leading to
as in:
translating what i know into information that exits arrived at by others none of which is my own design

breath or breathing never enters my imagination on the topic but i can and do see why and how it fits others experiences on the topic leading to the same conclusions that i know to be true as to what the topic becomes

i don`t know the answer to your question because to me eternity is motivated emotion and i still don`t get a meaning to 0 tounge
 Quoting: aether


0 is the sphere(total spatial(measureable(finite)))awareness.

There are infinite 0's.


These are nested each in other creating the action which creates them.

As each defines and is defined in it's opposite.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


but we know 2 things
a sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being
both structurally and emotionally
and
there can be no sphere around infinite
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infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether

No?, lol


Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and
Isness(realization).

An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function.

Beads laced together by unhindered potential.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


but we know 2 things
a sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being
both structurally and emotionally
and
there can be no sphere around infinite
 Quoting: aether


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The rocking horse moves ( motion) but does it move forward?

Isn't motion in the same place a form of stagnation?

The difference between space/time and time/space hmm
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I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known
knowing what it is in practical manner
is where our topic is going to
 Quoting: aether


hmm

Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT.

One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally.


Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness.

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infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether

No?, lol


Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and
Isness(realization).

An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function.

Beads laced together by unhindered potential.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


but we know 2 things
a sphere is quite a long way along the sequence of being
both structurally and emotionally
and
there can be no sphere around infinite
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


you are talking about the buddha pattern that by design fits all other designs
i believe

it is true
such a design does exist
we are forming the details for it`s design
organic craft design
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I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known
knowing what it is in practical manner
is where our topic is going to
 Quoting: aether


hmm

Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT.

One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally.


Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I have a thread that talks about that. Let me see if I can find it.
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although i never did move when i was non material as you know
everything else moved
motion was not in my imagination because the motion of all else made it so
now i know motion
i will always move
material or not
i imagine
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, infinite speed denotes absolute simultaenity.

Thus, all alien pilots are Buddhas (doorways to simultaenity)


You may only go where you have been before (immaterial awareness)

This supposes movement without need.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no
infinite = never arriving at the same location twice unless you want to whilst always having a new (unknown) location to go to tounge
 Quoting: aether

No?, lol


Exactly, every beginning at an ending and at intersection simultaeneously. Budding, Fruition and
Isness(realization).

An infinite sphere must always begin and end with a synapse for potentially infinite function. This gap(guf) spawns its functional perfection as its unwavering function.

Beads laced together by unhindered potential.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Why is it always assumed that infinity is a monodirectional function? It is not constrained by any law, but shows us it's perfect action in the patterns it creates ineffect.
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Conciousness and its proje tion is this craft. Do you not C?.

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a message coming in....

X.X.X

I repeat



X.X.X

end of transmission


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I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known
knowing what it is in practical manner
is where our topic is going to
 Quoting: aether


hmm

Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT.

One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally.


Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I have a thread that talks about that. Let me see if I can find it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man



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the background to his seeing/thinking is that as all is manifested and sustained via input from aether...the rotating magnetic field....what effects we make and observer are signals moving from point to point within the aether field within the micro up scale....nothing moves in the traditional sense....this is the origin of all all frozen light...
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If instead of thinking of anything as been seperate, You instead focus Your mind on the universe beinga solid, then try and comprehend that every finite point in that solid can become anything as it re-orientates subject to the magnetic field it is subjected to.

Then You can view the tornado differently as a direct result of the magnetic loops re-orientating the smallest particles to switch in the magnetic fields orientation.

The more complex and much more compressed particles and larger resist more the switching but are still trying to switch in the magnetic fields direction.

Thus the articles that are so called "PICKED UP" by the tornado are in fact trying to become the tornado and are not seperate - as is nothing - all is ONE.

This is difficult to verbalise as it is not part of our normal thinking. We view all as seperate, but if I was stood near You, and you moved aside and I moved to where You had just been, then I would be composed in the same stuff that You had been.

I would not be moving though, I would switch every finite particle as I encountered it, thus all movement is switching limited, including light and all signals.

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02/08/2013 02:28 PM
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Re: X Marks the Spot
I think 'absolute simultaenity' mean having the capacity to exist anywhere at once.

So the need for 'movement' becomes unnecessary.

That's how I understood it.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


knowing something must exist that possess the capacity to exist anywhere at once has always been known
knowing what it is in practical manner
is where our topic is going to
 Quoting: aether


hmm

Well, liken it to long-distance 'Tantra'...or whatever one wants to call IT.

One does not need to 'move', to arrive at 'destination'...and it is instantaneous in the right conditions. Said conditions however, do not always seem to exist...for myself personally.


Perhaps the only thing moving, is consciousness.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


the only moving thing is consciousness for our universe because all structure inclusive of us contains said consciousness
but no structure inclusive of us is universal consciousness
thus the 2
you (consciousness)
all that is not you (consciousness)
2 different structures for ever once you have been visualized by it





GLP