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Seer777
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hey ss,, that was indeed an interesting corellation,,


when we imaj-in such presumption,, we digress frontier transgression from any plausible perspective narrative,,

much love,,
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well said
i agree

i will add personal thought
limitation (our) was always the same limitation throughout our recorded history
and the boundary of our limitation was always the same boundary
it exists 250 miles above our heads
when we went through that boundary our historical limitation ceased to exist in the minds of a few
access to the information the other side of our boundary is still limited to access of the few
what the few do is one of the topics of this thread
luckily for us our limitation boundary is only a geographical location and nothing else but that
and
we now know that our next limitation boundary 8 billion miles approx further on from the first is no longer a mystery to us because the information we experienced crossing our first boundary explained all we required to know beyond the next boundary before we got there and crossed it for ourselves to confirm our discoveries are true
thus we have discovered all we needed to know in our past 60 years by our own physical/practical experience to confirm forever that we know know enough to understand forever in a manner unlike any previous imaginative thought recorded of the meaning of for ever that arose before 1850 approx
thus the thoughts closet to our discoveries that we on the surface of our planet possess that closest match what we have discovered that our planet
thus ourselves
are within to experience what we are to experience within
are our imaginative thoughts of our past 160 years
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we can place more sense upon this /z\
around 1850 electricity was discovered to become visible by our own design
being in possession of lightening prompted the imagination of the few whom witnessed our creation of lightening to imagine what our sky and beyond may be like in a manner our imagination had never been recorded prompted before because we possess no records that are noticeable to us of ourselves possessing of lightening creation ability

this imagination prompt opened a floodgate of never before imagined thoughts which manifested approx 100 years later into our creating the means for ourselves to physically travel beyond our sky

upon arriving outside of 250 miles above our heads we experienced a new environment to our senses
an environment that has never existed within the 250 mile boundary domain of earth

within this new environment we experienced causes and affects that never exist within our earths 250 mile domain

these causes and affects are profound as in:
not a slight variation of cause and affect within our earths domain
these are causes and affects of then unknown origin in all things relating to our bodies and souls as in:
we feel different
we act different
we become different

now
what our authorities believe is this

they believe our earth became earth after this new environment existed
they do not believe earth is the cause of this new environment
they believe that because earth arrived in and is still within this new environment
all these new causes and affects we know to be true by our own experience
must
be either part or the whole reason for all causes and affects upon earth
because there is no way earth can be within these causes and affects without it`self, and by default ourselves, being affected to
thus
for some 50 + years now
our authorities are studying causes and affects which are invisible from earths surface but must cause the causes and affects we experience here on earth
and
they believe for our entire recorded history this has been true
we have been experiencing causes and affects caused by causes and affects which have only become real in a practical manner in our past 50 years
because
we can discover nothing in our recorded history that refers to these new causes and affects in a manner that hints at them being known to the writer
no matter whom is attributed to the writing

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I see and agree with your point Pi in that it makes it easier to identify who one is communicating with. The point I am trying to make is it's about the message not the messenger. Do the words ring true for you (at this time or perhaps a later time as ones perceptions change and what you heard or saw before now makes sense.) If you have ever been to a 12 step meeting you would see eventually it's not about the messenger but the message. The divine can speak in many ways at any time. We all can take what we need to learn at any one moment.


It's a journey too as the women here say not always a destination as the men would experience it. As one Buddha says "how enlightened is enlightened. It takes many lives."

Btw I do have more than one good reason to put a slow down on my own "journey" per se and can't be rushed through as much as I would like in some ways. Also there's a fRate train being rode it would seem.
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apparently see7,,

interesting indeed,,

much love,,
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Anti-Child-Abuse Ad Aims to Help Kids Speak Out by Displaying a Message Only They Can See


A new ad campaign aimed at combating child abuse is raising awareness in the most public way it knows how: posters of abused children displayed to the masses. There is a catch, though -- only children can see the abused faces. Reaching a kid who is a victim of abuse can be difficult. Often, a child is accompanied by his or her abuser, which can make verbalizing the presence of abuse that much scarier.

The Spanish children's advocacy group, Aid to Children and Adolescents at Risk (ANAR), created the ads using lenticular printing, which allows different images to be shown on the same display, depending on the angle it is viewed from. So an adult who is taller than 4-foot-5, standing directly in front of the ad, sees a picture of a child with the message, "Sometimes, child abuse is only visible to the child suffering it."


[link to news.yahoo.com]

Vid at link.
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strange how these "master" suggest they become that which they themselves provide "proof" can never be known to become
as if being something was impossible to know
but
you know enough
to know you are
what you know
can never be known

rolleyes
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Hero with a Thousand Faces? Assumed you familiar with the concept.
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no
never noticed it before you showed it

hero with a thousand faces feels like repeating processes
thus
what is the motive that prompts repetitive process
because when we discover that
we will move onto the next sequence/process
thus the process will cease to be repetitive to our sense because it will fit into where it took us. as in:
looking back it makes sense that it occurred the way it did to become noticed
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I find that interesting aether.

Because I bring up Joseph Campbell...often.

And the Hero's Journey.

hmm
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you know when i read that wiki i instantly noticed he is your same man
and i will tell now
he is impressive
and feels a lovely personality
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I see and agree with your point Pi in that it makes it easier to identify who one is communicating with. The point I am trying to make is it's about the message not the messenger. Do the words ring true for you (at this time or perhaps a later time as ones perceptions change and what you heard or saw before now makes sense.) If you have ever been to a 12 step meeting you would see eventually it's not about the messenger but the message. The divine can speak in many ways at any time. We all can take what we need to learn at any one moment.


It's a journey too as the women here say not always a destination as the men would experience it. As one Buddha says "how enlightened is enlightened. It takes many lives."

Btw I do have more than one good reason to put a slow down on my own "journey" per se and can't be rushed through as much as I would like in some ways. Also there's a fRate train being rode it would seem.
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Which is the greater?
Validation coupled with identification

Or

Qualification coupled with verification

Does it really matter in the end? This common thread, non-material in nature. Holds value placed there in by those their in. Within those there in see what they see in light around dark shaped symbols they find the value of reciprocally. Exchangin thoughts in a meeting of the mind. Where all are one in segments of key identifiers which seperate but grouped together. Non material in structure presented sequencial slip stream seams of woven waves.

Lookin back vereifies where you came from. But doesn't show you were you are going. Ahhh the old "history repeated itself." Not really, you just identified with it to give your mind form based off a- round consistency to establish circular development. One form of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result. If your ears are ringing. Well, that would be consistant pepertual cycle.

What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

Non material or material. Is their any other?

Like the Edgar Alan People short novel. Riding sea with a drunken compadre trying to make sense of non sense.
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hmm
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Ears ringing.
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Anti-Child-Abuse Ad Aims to Help Kids Speak Out by Displaying a Message Only They Can See


A new ad campaign aimed at combating child abuse is raising awareness in the most public way it knows how: posters of abused children displayed to the masses. There is a catch, though -- only children can see the abused faces. Reaching a kid who is a victim of abuse can be difficult. Often, a child is accompanied by his or her abuser, which can make verbalizing the presence of abuse that much scarier.

The Spanish children's advocacy group, Aid to Children and Adolescents at Risk (ANAR), created the ads using lenticular printing, which allows different images to be shown on the same display, depending on the angle it is viewed from. So an adult who is taller than 4-foot-5, standing directly in front of the ad, sees a picture of a child with the message, "Sometimes, child abuse is only visible to the child suffering it."


[link to news.yahoo.com]

Vid at link.
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One thing I would suggest if not already implemented...

However, a child 4-foot-5 or shorter sees the same child but with bruises on his or her face. The message is also different:

"If somebody hurts you, phone us and we'll help you."


A child seeing said 'ad' will have to process it quite quickly. While 'walking by' if you will.

If a phone number is displayed, very few children will be able to remember and hold it in memory long enough to recall it later.

If there IS a number...it should be VERY simple. And no more than 3 numbers.

Like 9-1-1.
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Which ear?
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"we can discover nothing in our recorded history that refers to these new causes and affects in a manner that hints at them being known to the writer
no matter whom is attributed to the writing"


There's a writer; H.P.Blavatsky that talks about the past civilizations having the power of flight and a lot of the same luxuries as we do.I think it's referred to in 'Anthropogenesis' in 'The Secret Doctrine' series


If you want to check it out: [link to turtlegang.org] ..pretty sure it's in there.peace
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That is awesome on the child abuse add. Thanks Seer for sharing. :)
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That is awesome on the child abuse add. Thanks Seer for sharing. :)
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Phones 'ring' too...

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Which is the greater?
Validation coupled with identification

Or

Qualification coupled with verification

Does it really matter in the end? This common thread, non-material in nature. Holds value placed there in by those their in. Within those there in see what they see in light around dark shaped symbols they find the value of reciprocally. Exchangin thoughts in a meeting of the mind. Where all are one in segments of key identifiers which seperate but grouped together. Non material in structure presented sequencial slip stream seams of woven waves.

Lookin back vereifies where you came from. But doesn't show you were you are going. Ahhh the old "history repeated itself." Not really, you just identified with it to give your mind form based off a- round consistency to establish circular development. One form of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result. If your ears are ringing. Well, that would be consistant pepertual cycle.

What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

Non material or material. Is their any other?

Like the Edgar Alan People short novel. Riding sea with a drunken compadre trying to make sense of non sense.
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Even if that is the case.....

The sentiment remains, does it not?

Why would anyone want to instill this idea in us?

And don't say 'advertising' as I couldn't give a shit about material possessions past what I need to live reasonably well.

Especially while stoned.

Just sayin'.

Yawn.... NEXT
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The eyes guide the flight, to coast one simply has to use the eyes as a steering wheel, of sorts, the physical movement of the eyes behind eyelids while in altered state directs the direction of hmmm how to describe, the direction of awareness might fit.

It's in the eyes...
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What I find interesting is that the eye is not adapted to deal with ultraviolet light. Cataracts, retinal degeneration,etc,are damage caused especially by light in the UV portion of the spectrum. It's not just man, but other animals as well, that seem ill equipped to deal with the sun's ultraviolet light. Which leads me to wonder why no one seems to have followed up on this: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] My question here would be what caused that split in evolutionary development between these two species. And maybe important to the Saturn hypothesis, is when did this split start (and how fast can the split occur). Also do we see changes in ascorbic acid in other animals over time (maybe indicating evolution still occuring in adapting to our modern sun?). If changes to our solar system were as recent as Saturn theory suggests, maybe mice are at an advantage in adapting, since they produce more generations in a given period of time?
I guess what puzzles me the most is that with all the different eye adaptations we do see between animals, so many different species just happen to be stuck when it comes to finding a way to deal with UV? It does seem most likely that our earth in the fairly recent past, was not lit by such a UV source as our current sun.
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[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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“Shil DasSarma, a microbial geneticist at the University of Mayland, found himself pondering why chlorophyll, which is the major photosynthetic pigment of vegetation, absorbs blue and red solar wavelengths while reflecting green ones since, as already noted, the Sun transmits most of its radiative energy in the green part of the visible spectrum. His eventual solution to the problem, which had long puzzled biologists, is that chlorophyll appeared [in the proposed evolutionary cycle] after another light-sensitive molecule, known as retinal, was already ensconced on early Earth. In opposition to chlorophyll, retinal absorbs green light while reflecting red and violet. Although the names we give to some colors do not mean the same to everyone, the combination of red and violet is said to result in the color purple. Retinal and chlorophyll are both found in different microbes, and the former would have lent organisms a purple hue. The outcome of this, according to DarSarma, is that the "earliest life on Earth might have been just as purple as it is green today..." [link to www.livescience.com]
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"But now they are prepared to give out to the above‐ mentioned profane even the secrets hinted at by Eliphas Levi without adequate explanation; for the latterʹs policy of veiled revelations could only lead to further superstition and misunderstanding."
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Thanks, Fred.
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lmao

Actually I'm down town at the moment
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What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

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Really good question. Brings to mind Tool and Undertow.
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What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

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Really good question. Brings to mind Tool and Undertow.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked

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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
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Like the Double Slit experiment?


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hmm
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In no affairs of mere prejudice, pro or con, do we deduce inferences with entire certainty even from the most simple data.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
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It does to those whose beliefs may be altered from that information.

For others, I imagine it would depend on what the origin of life IS. For example, if we knew that we arrived from the primordial soup that had been electrified, perhaps not much would change.

If we found out that the origin of life came from another sentient species, perhaps a lot would change.

But, again, it comes down to what the initial belief structure is in how it would affect thoughts about the meaning of life.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
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For Spinoza, as discussed in Parts Two and Three of his Ethics, affects are states of mind and body related to (but not exactly synonymous with) feelings and emotions, of which he says there are three primary kinds: pleasure or joy (laetitia), pain or sorrow (tristitia) and desire (cupiditas) or appetite
 Quoting: Wiki
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Of course the drunken compadre = the ego.

The ego is the pleasure speaker/seeker. It establishes itself at the helm through active persuit of sensation.





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