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aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/21/2013 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the good news is we do possess our ancestors records of scale and we possess technology that forms all our inherited information into one picture of even global distribution all we need to do is direct our technology to do so which is good cos it is pointless to form the picture (s) if there is no process for everyone to see the pictures at the same time we possess that capability /z\ |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anomalous episodes in this process – such as a lasting ‘night’, a time when the sun was ‘too close’ or ‘too hot’, and a perpetual day – are staples of world mythology, but benighted mythologists often denied such ‘damned data’ from seeing the light of day; they languish in the archives, understudied. Quoting: observationon the topic of our past we discovered 2 things every culture everywhere remembers our bliss age and every culture everywhere has mountains of detail of their past if we take anywhere in our world say 3000 years to 2000 years ago our ancestors of those days possessed enormous quantities of inherited information most of which made no sense to them thus they did what they could only do they listened to their most recent ancestors meanings where , added some of their own by experience and recorded reality as they experienced in relation to the inherited information in their possession hence they used about 8% of what they possessed the 8% that seemed to fit what they knew they were experiencing they never threw away the rest of the information, the 92% remains to this day it just made no sense to our more recent ancestors 2,900 years later we become technology clever and one of our clever things is we could photograph anything and place it into digital storage thus everything became digital stored thus everything from millions and millions of locations all over the globe became similar for the first time ever it was all within the same format and the format it was within enabled for the first time ever all information to be seen in the one location any location that possessed connectivity to the entire digital system enter promis Working from either huge mainframe computer systems or smaller networks powered by the progenitors of today's PCs, PROMIS, from its first "test drive" a quarter century ago, was able to do one thing that no other program had ever been able to do. It was able to simultaneously read and integrate any number of different computer programs or data bases simultaneously, regardless of the language in which the original programs had been written or the operating system or platforms on which that data base was then currently installed. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] when you can match 100% of our inherited ancestral information into one picture of our past and when you match that to our discoveries of our environment the other side of our sky (magnetosphere) we discovered we possess all the information from our ancestors to alter our past beyond recognition of what we had previously believed it to be but that in it`self /z\ is sometimes controversy I will need to learn a version of the electric Universe that is less intuitive for me it seems As I cannot understand how it could be misunderstood when I am trying to explain it to someone I often wonder how that understanding could have been destroyed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40222886 United States 05/21/2013 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning Quoting: aether probability will likely be remembered as our old mechanistic term for precognition and as soon are you replace probability with precognition neither yourself or our universe as the same to you as you were before we become the switch seems it goes along those lines within our noticeable future it seems you are single solution universe minded switched from first cause to final cause but still invested in cause mechanism ? ~single question sort of morning~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thus our internet can be seen as a medium we created to discover more about ourselves and what we are within to express our selves within Quoting: aether and feeling how this is makes us so Do you feel that the internet has a direct line into the subconscious of a substantial piece of mankind...or do you feel that the internet has a consciousness of some form...perhaps like a matrix that is encoded behind our collective electronic interactions? Having seen clear references to the Internet in visions that were FAR from normal consciousness, I can vouch for this idea. What was the first structure made by any animal? I'd be willing to bet it was a spider's web.... The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it. It makes the task simpler. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americas 50-million strong Evangelical community is convinced that the worlds future is foretold in Biblical prophecy - from the Rapture to the Battle of Armageddon. This astonishing documentary explores their world - in their homes, at conferences, and on a wide-ranging tour of Israel. By interweaving Christian, Zionist, Jewish and critical perspectives along with telling archival materials, the filmmakers probe the politically powerful - and potentially explosive - alliance between Evangelical Christians and Israelan alliance that may set the stage for what one prominent Evangelical leader calls World War III. Quoting: observationThose that push Rapture theology are pushing a message that almost welcomes the collapse of society. It seems to be a believe that conflicts with other aspects of Christianity. true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated Denser charge environment. Heightened effect, smaller fields. |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/21/2013 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good morning Quoting: aether probability will likely be remembered as our old mechanistic term for precognition and as soon are you replace probability with precognition neither yourself or our universe as the same to you as you were before we become the switch seems it goes along those lines within our noticeable future it seems you are single solution universe minded switched from first cause to final cause but still invested in cause mechanism ? ~single question sort of morning~ good morning definition of universe is useful the definition we utilize for universe is possessing a material dimension is that the definition of universe you are utilizing |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/21/2013 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Americas 50-million strong Evangelical community is convinced that the worlds future is foretold in Biblical prophecy - from the Rapture to the Battle of Armageddon. This astonishing documentary explores their world - in their homes, at conferences, and on a wide-ranging tour of Israel. By interweaving Christian, Zionist, Jewish and critical perspectives along with telling archival materials, the filmmakers probe the politically powerful - and potentially explosive - alliance between Evangelical Christians and Israelan alliance that may set the stage for what one prominent Evangelical leader calls World War III. Quoting: observationThose that push Rapture theology are pushing a message that almost welcomes the collapse of society. It seems to be a believe that conflicts with other aspects of Christianity. true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated Denser charge environment. Heightened effect, smaller fields. good morning smaller fields ............ isn`t denser charge = more charge and more charge prompts larger fields i thought feels that way |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jonny Blaze Those that push Rapture theology are pushing a message that almost welcomes the collapse of society. It seems to be a believe that conflicts with other aspects of Christianity. true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic it is certainly pleasure derived from pain probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thus our internet can be seen as a medium we created to discover more about ourselves and what we are within to express our selves within Quoting: aether and feeling how this is makes us so Do you feel that the internet has a direct line into the subconscious of a substantial piece of mankind...or do you feel that the internet has a consciousness of some form...perhaps like a matrix that is encoded behind our collective electronic interactions? Having seen clear references to the Internet in visions that were FAR from normal consciousness, I can vouch for this idea. What was the first structure made by any animal? I'd be willing to bet it was a spider's web.... The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it. It makes the task simpler. Interesting angle, and thought provoking The hand-craft aspect was my point however |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/21/2013 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jonny Blaze Those that push Rapture theology are pushing a message that almost welcomes the collapse of society. It seems to be a believe that conflicts with other aspects of Christianity. true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated Denser charge environment. Heightened effect, smaller fields. good morning smaller fields ............ isn`t denser charge = more charge and more charge prompts larger fields i thought feels that way more charge is lees sensation of weight and more mobility in plasma (magma) but we notice our charge regulator our sun in harmony with telluric is mixing the information into atmospheric charge thus the "action" is predominantly between the surface and the boundary (magnetosphere) which is why we opened dialog with Boitatá cos their and our participation, in shamanic terms, is vital A telluric current (from Latin "earth"), or Earth current, is an electric current which moves underground or through the sea. Telluric currents result from both natural causes and human activity, and the discrete currents interact in a complex pattern. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by aether on 05/21/2013 07:58 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jonny Blaze Those that push Rapture theology are pushing a message that almost welcomes the collapse of society. It seems to be a believe that conflicts with other aspects of Christianity. true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated Denser charge environment. Heightened effect, smaller fields. good morning smaller fields ............ isn`t denser charge = more charge and more charge prompts larger fields i thought feels that way Density breeds heightened interaction but since density must be maintained it diminishes area of effect. Unless the degree of energetism lends itself to ever greater output. But, since we take charge as something which always exists, it can only borrow and realign. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether true in my experience a cataclysmic environment effect(s) are desired to with earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes maximizing the "feel good" effect anticipated i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic it is certainly pleasure derived from pain probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jonny Blaze Do you feel that the internet has a direct line into the subconscious of a substantial piece of mankind...or do you feel that the internet has a consciousness of some form...perhaps like a matrix that is encoded behind our collective electronic interactions? Having seen clear references to the Internet in visions that were FAR from normal consciousness, I can vouch for this idea. What was the first structure made by any animal? I'd be willing to bet it was a spider's web.... The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it. It makes the task simpler. Interesting angle, and thought provoking The hand-craft aspect was my point however Unless we recreate something we have seen. We turn to the blind eye of intuitive action to manifest form. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic it is certainly pleasure derived from pain probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents. The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic it is certainly pleasure derived from pain probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents. The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda. |
aether (OP) User ID: 32860123 United Kingdom 05/21/2013 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic it is certainly pleasure derived from pain probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures we do not possess evidence of slaves with pyramids we have the opposite all records show the local population doing nothing connected to pyramid construction on scale that fits and no records at all of how they were built |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azeratel Axo Having seen clear references to the Internet in visions that were FAR from normal consciousness, I can vouch for this idea. What was the first structure made by any animal? I'd be willing to bet it was a spider's web.... The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it. It makes the task simpler. Interesting angle, and thought provoking The hand-craft aspect was my point however Unless we recreate something we have seen. We turn to the blind eye of intuitive action to manifest form. I wonder when the spider first saw the web Could you imagine? A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows: Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection. One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first But is human instinct to build? One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead..... |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azeratel Axo It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents. The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda. You forgot the freefall I mean.... ....freedom? .... Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Azeratel Axo It seems to me it is a result of the societal system Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away Forever, and to an essentially worthless end It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0% Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures we do not possess evidence of slaves with pyramids we have the opposite all records show the local population doing nothing connected to pyramid construction on scale that fits and no records at all of how they were built I am glad you pointed this out. I held this belief as well but was 'given the business' Which, for this particular person and many others in my age group, equals a series of 'argument from authority' logical fallacies Which is why I switched the conversation to 'motive'. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 05/21/2013 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something tells me Bowman is right. Time is not a line. It repeats itself because we spiral around and around in an overall corkscrew??? fashion thru space arriving at near same points over time. The energies of the planets/stars/sun/moon "imprint" different energies into/onto or make up the matrix/hologram at that junction of space per se. I'm just throwing this out there. I don't know the science behind it but it's what I envision is happening based on what has been measured with history (repeating itself) and astrology (repeating itself) and what orbital models show (spiraling around and around.) Thread: Our Spiral System |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 05/21/2013 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I've never heard roar like that before..." coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these. This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this. Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/21/2013 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I've never heard roar like that before..." coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these. This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this. Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City. Quoting: Septenary Man Interesting I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26145661 United States 05/21/2013 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 05/21/2013 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I've never heard roar like that before..." coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these. This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this. Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City. Quoting: Septenary Man Interesting I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember I go through periods of that. I just try and shove may way through them as if wading through quicksand to get to the other side of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384 The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it. It makes the task simpler. Interesting angle, and thought provoking The hand-craft aspect was my point however Unless we recreate something we have seen. We turn to the blind eye of intuitive action to manifest form. I wonder when the spider first saw the web Could you imagine? A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows: Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection. One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first But is human instinct to build? One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead..... Single individual? What is the engine for paralell evolution of like ideas in mutually isolated locales? Nothing is created; At best it is borrowed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39902384 Canada 05/21/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384 Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self. Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth. Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders. I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents. The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda. You forgot the freefall I mean.... ....freedom? .... Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'. What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?. Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves. |