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Oh, and good morning everyone.

Damn my head hurts a LOT. Doctor said these flashing pains through my head could last upwards of 2 months or more.

sad
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Venus Proves my Charge Model Again
First published July 1, 2013

A reader just sent me to a new video at youtube by Wal Thornhill, as part of the Thunderbolts or
Electrical Universe (EU) model. Although I agree with Thornhill and the Thunderbolts on larger issues, especially the deficiencies of the standard model and the need to bring a second field into celestial mechanics, I find Thornhill's analysis deficient at many points. Thornhill says that only the Electrical Universe model can explain newer data, and that just isn't true. My charge models explain all data much more thoroughly and rigorously than EU models. The EU physicists still haven't penetrated the difference between the charge field and the E/M field, so although they are near to the correct analysis, they are still missing the bullseye, forcing them cram new data into their models when it doesn't really fit. So although it is true that EU explanations are much much better than mainstream explanations, they still aren't correct.
The main problem with the EU model is that it explains everything in terms of the E/M field, ignoring or taking for granted the underlying charge field. Theirs is an electrical universe, while mine is a charge universe. Some will see the difference as one of semantics, but it isn't. As I have made crystal clear in a series of recent papers where I unify Maxwell's equations, the charge field must be separated from the E/M field in order to understand and explain unification, dark matter, and all these problems
the Thunderbolts are working on. Without that understanding, the EU analysis of the celestial field
must remain flawed and incomplete. Electrical and magnetic interactions are taking place between celestial bodies, as they claim, and even the mainstream recognizes that. But none of these interactions and none of the E/M or plasma fields can be explained without the underlying charge field. And when it comes to explaining winds, hot and cold poles, and other phenomena, my fields explain the data
much more cleanly and clearly than EU models.
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miles makes valid points and his topic is relevant to us
we may consider the notion that for a charge field to exist everywhere (distributed) , charge must exist everywhere

thus there is charge and the field (invisible force/effect) charge existing causes to exist

the interesting point is were charge to exist and cause anything other than a field by it`s existence nothing else but charge would or could exists because the nature of charge is what is causes to exist it by default cause to not exist (destroys)
it is the nature of charge
because charge cause the charge field what charge causes instantly prompts/causes the charge field to cause that which charge creates to do things which charge it`self can never do because of charges nature thus the sequences is charge ---->charge field---->singular effect------> all things
remembering eternity is forever /z\ there is always charge, there is always charge field, the 2
and
we may notice that because charge is distributed (everywhere) and is only charge everywhere it is a non material dimension unto it`self
similarly because charge field is everywhere and is only charge field everywhere it is a non material dimension unto it`self
2/15/2011 9:20 AM




the expression of the archetype`s personality, to a degree, varies from galaxy to galaxy

charge has a personality focused upon it`s awareness it forms (causes) all things

field has a personality focused upon it`s awareness it forms (causes) all things

the two causes (charge/field) have a relationship uniquely reflecting their eternal existence

rotation is an effect caused by the existence of charge and field and it reflects charge and fields unique relationship

the personality of the eye archetype is coherently complex
 Quoting: aether


as we notice going backwards through gaia`s fields
2/14/2011 9:19 PM

our eye of providence has discovered two things recently

it is an effect caused by our non material dimension of charge/field/rotation

at it`s most magnificent manifested scale within our infinite universe, the eye of all galaxies (eye of providence), is within it`s heart, is a plasmoid

A plasmoid is a coherent structure of plasma and magnetic fields`
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what we discovered recently is encoded within our inherited symbol and sign, what we have yet to discover is who or what placed the information within our symbol and sign tounge

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I had the most amazing 'dreams' Saturday night. I can't really call them dreams, but I don't know what else to call them. I met with other 'spirit' entities in other places other than 'earth'. We talked for long, long hours about how I experienced the physical Earth experience, something they had not experienced before. Also, another group who said they had been working with me for a while. I told one of them she looked familiar, and she said she has worked directly with me, and that it was just made so I could not remember her...this was necessary for what was/is going on.

So strange. I live these other experiences as conscious (many times more so) as anything here in waking reality. It becomes so difficult to explain conscious reality to anyone now. It is all so different than people can even imagine.

And, what does it mean to my reality? When consciously experiencing these things as more 'real' than here? There is nothing to about it, except to go with it and not analyze them that way. But, what is it doing to MY psyche? My consciousness?

So strange.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


good morning, is it strange really
since 2010 to my certain knowledge cos i told you myself your natural personality is complementary to persons such as myself whom make no secret of interacting with spirit culture, non gaia origin people, archetypes etc. and keep no secret of the motive of their interactions, as written in their threads on glp such as the x thread, marko thread and posts on your own threads over the 3 years since our meeting
to me it would be strange were you not experiencing the meetings and topics that you do because to me they confirm the helpful attributes, thus contributions you provide to the overview motive of the thread topics upon glp tounge
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Oh, and good morning everyone.

Damn my head hurts a LOT. Doctor said these flashing pains through my head could last upwards of 2 months or more.

sad
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that sucks but now you know it is temporary perhaps it going can be quickened, i got top of head left side of crown quite a large area feels deep pain like it is tender
yes
i am getting your left side top of head
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I had the most amazing 'dreams' Saturday night. I can't really call them dreams, but I don't know what else to call them. I met with other 'spirit' entities in other places other than 'earth'. We talked for long, long hours about how I experienced the physical Earth experience, something they had not experienced before. Also, another group who said they had been working with me for a while. I told one of them she looked familiar, and she said she has worked directly with me, and that it was just made so I could not remember her...this was necessary for what was/is going on.

So strange. I live these other experiences as conscious (many times more so) as anything here in waking reality. It becomes so difficult to explain conscious reality to anyone now. It is all so different than people can even imagine.

And, what does it mean to my reality? When consciously experiencing these things as more 'real' than here? There is nothing to about it, except to go with it and not analyze them that way. But, what is it doing to MY psyche? My consciousness?

So strange.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


good morning, is it strange really
since 2010 to my certain knowledge cos i told you myself your natural personality is complementary to persons such as myself whom make no secret of interacting with spirit culture, non gaia origin people, archetypes etc. and keep no secret of the motive of their interactions, as written in their threads on glp such as the x thread, marko thread and posts on your own threads over the 3 years since our meeting
to me it would be strange were you not experiencing the meetings and topics that you do because to me they confirm the helpful attributes, thus contributions you provide to the overview motive of the thread topics upon glp tounge
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lol, yes, I agree totally with what you are saying. I was speaking with my twin brother yesterday, trying to explain some of my experiences, realizing that I'm not sure other people could really understand the scope of it. I came to the conclusion as to how rare it must be in this day and age.

That is why I said, "So strange". His wife's family is quite large and that is who we were hanging out with, and none of them would come close to 'understanding', so it is not something I would/could talk about.

So, I guess it is strange when looking through the lens of imagining discussing it with anyone outside what we do here, and outside my siblings and one of my close friends.

To me personally, it is not strange at all. As I told my brother, it has become so natural that it is nearly effortless, which he has difficulty understanding as he has yet to get to the point of that ease of how I handle the experiences now.

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Oh, and good morning everyone.

Damn my head hurts a LOT. Doctor said these flashing pains through my head could last upwards of 2 months or more.

sad
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that sucks but now you know it is temporary perhaps it going can be quickened, i got top of head left side of crown quite a large area feels deep pain like it is tender
yes
i am getting your left side top of head
 Quoting: aether


lol, you are 'spot on'. It comes in pulses that make me cringe. Deep pain and the pulses radiate out like a flaring then contracting sphere of pain.

I love it that you are so good at what you are able to do, aether.
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one way maybe to see the complexity of the 2 personalities synergy (singular effect) could be like this
charge may know that nothing could exist without charge but charge also knows nothing would exist without charge field and charge knows it`s own existence causes charge fields existence thus the 2 forever have each other by default
charge field may know that nothing exists if charge does not exist but charge field also know that`s it`s existence can never not exist because charge exists
charge field also knows that nothing other than charge and it`self would exists if field did not exists in the nature it does
thus the 2 are forever together and their synergy (singular effect) is forever the singular effect upon all things including themselves

the origin of love is the love of the 2 that effects all things including the 2 red_heart

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Yeah, that's it. Never alone comes to mind.
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I had the most amazing 'dreams' Saturday night. I can't really call them dreams, but I don't know what else to call them. I met with other 'spirit' entities in other places other than 'earth'. We talked for long, long hours about how I experienced the physical Earth experience, something they had not experienced before. Also, another group who said they had been working with me for a while. I told one of them she looked familiar, and she said she has worked directly with me, and that it was just made so I could not remember her...this was necessary for what was/is going on.

So strange. I live these other experiences as conscious (many times more so) as anything here in waking reality. It becomes so difficult to explain conscious reality to anyone now. It is all so different than people can even imagine.

And, what does it mean to my reality? When consciously experiencing these things as more 'real' than here? There is nothing to about it, except to go with it and not analyze them that way. But, what is it doing to MY psyche? My consciousness?

So strange.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Oh, you know something that stuck out to me? I asked if they could manipulate their surroundings, and they could not. Meanwhile, I could change anything I wanted about the environment by mere thought and intention. What I was doing was like magic to them.
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Good morning everyone.

I have a question for you Sept, I was wondering if you ever eat or ingest anything during these experiences? And if you do, if you can taste what you eat...

If you can, does what you eat taste like it would in the waking world?

Have you eaten anything one would considered off-world foods?

:)
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I had the most amazing 'dreams' Saturday night. I can't really call them dreams, but I don't know what else to call them. I met with other 'spirit' entities in other places other than 'earth'. We talked for long, long hours about how I experienced the physical Earth experience, something they had not experienced before. Also, another group who said they had been working with me for a while. I told one of them she looked familiar, and she said she has worked directly with me, and that it was just made so I could not remember her...this was necessary for what was/is going on.

So strange. I live these other experiences as conscious (many times more so) as anything here in waking reality. It becomes so difficult to explain conscious reality to anyone now. It is all so different than people can even imagine.

And, what does it mean to my reality? When consciously experiencing these things as more 'real' than here? There is nothing to about it, except to go with it and not analyze them that way. But, what is it doing to MY psyche? My consciousness?

So strange.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Oh, you know something that stuck out to me? I asked if they could manipulate their surroundings, and they could not. Meanwhile, I could change anything I wanted about the environment by mere thought and intention. What I was doing was like magic to them.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


In awake state, if you know they are there and say so aloud, they become visible plain as day. But ypu have to know in mind first withput any doubt then ypu have to use words of that knowing. Thats was my experience
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Oh, and good morning everyone.

Damn my head hurts a LOT. Doctor said these flashing pains through my head could last upwards of 2 months or more.

sad
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that sucks but now you know it is temporary perhaps it going can be quickened, i got top of head left side of crown quite a large area feels deep pain like it is tender
yes
i am getting your left side top of head
 Quoting: aether


lol, you are 'spot on'. It comes in pulses that make me cringe. Deep pain and the pulses radiate out like a flaring then contracting sphere of pain.

I love it that you are so good at what you are able to do, aether.
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Hi Sept and all else here. Good Morning. Hope you had a good 4th.

Please before you discount me because of my ramblings here and there on this site understand I am just trying to figure out what is going on with myself and my family. I know I sound like I am in complete madness sometimes. This is real for us. Please treat this post entirely alone on it's own from anything else I have ever said. I need your help. Thank you.

Something happened last night that reminded me of some things I saw on this thread and now I see this description of top left crown radiating pain.

Last night while walking home my 18 year old daughter said her head hurt. She explained it exactly like you said, same area. Been that way for a few days. the one she was having last night was intense. What happened before reminded me of something I am pretty sure I saw here regarding controlling water.

In New Orleans they do the fireworks on the river. There are two barges. The dueling barges. We got there towards the end. After the big show was over we went down to sit on log we have been watching the river traffic from lately. She wanted to touch the water. Told her not to because the rock levee is a steep slant, current is strong, but that she could sit down by the edge. There was about 5 feet between the log and the water.

There was NO river traffic at this time because they shut it down. Fireworks from other communities on the other side were still going off. Lighting in the distance. Lumineres being floated into the sky. Very lovely sky watching. We were talking and she was sitting quietly in front of us. All of a sudden this v shaped wave starts coming towards us. We told her to back up. She did not hear us. The wave started rolling in and washing up on her. It had this strange appearance like it was reaching up to grab her. We yelled at her to back up, she did. I told her to stop thinking whatever she was thinking. It calmed down immediately. Again there was no river traffic. NO boats.

I asked her what she was thinking. She said since I would not let her touch the water she was sitting there, eyes closed thinking about what it would belike to be under the water. Would she still be able to see the fireworks and the lights. When the first wave hit her she opened her eyes. She asked me if we were yelling at her. She did not hear us. She had put herself in a trance. She said when she opened her eyes she saw the wave trying to grab her.

We sat there for a few minutes. The boats started moving again. Two paddle wheels passed by. Then a large normal wave rolled in. She started giggling and saying how different it was from "her wave." My kid danced the whole way home. She realized her power. Then the lighting bolt hit her left crown again.

For all of the insane and surreal things we have experienced since 12/21/12 this was one of the weirdest yet most affirming of the reality we are now living in. This power we are all born with coming into us.

So please tell me what the hell is really going on. We did not imagine this. It is what is is I guess. Beautiful, exciting. Hope FULL.
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Good morning everyone.

I have a question for you Sept, I was wondering if you ever eat or ingest anything during these experiences? And if you do, if you can taste what you eat...

If you can, does what you eat taste like it would in the waking world?

Have you eaten anything one would considered off-world foods?

:)
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Not in the majority of these experiences. There has been one or two where I 'digested' something. There had been a number of them where I used to inhale some smokey substance that would help me retain lucidity. It had been my 'crutch' for a while until I could naturally stay lucid as long as I wish.

I will post a couple experiences as examples. Give me a sec, though.
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Good morning everyone.

I have a question for you Sept, I was wondering if you ever eat or ingest anything during these experiences? And if you do, if you can taste what you eat...

If you can, does what you eat taste like it would in the waking world?

Have you eaten anything one would considered off-world foods?

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Not in the majority of these experiences. There has been one or two where I 'digested' something. There had been a number of them where I used to inhale some smokey substance that would help me retain lucidity. It had been my 'crutch' for a while until I could naturally stay lucid as long as I wish.

I will post a couple experiences as examples. Give me a sec, though.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I find it strange how easy it is for me to taste things when I eat them while I am sleeping.

Taste exactly the same.

How is this possible I wonder? Sensory memory of 'tastes' which can re-manifest in the dream state?

hmm

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April 20, 2008

...
He walked up behind her. They instructed me to lie down and put my head in her lap. I stared up at both of them, complete comfort caused by the innate knowing that they were absolutely benevolent in nature. He then bent over me, his face just inches above mine, and blew smoke from his mouth. I inhaled deeply.

Everything went dark. Incredible sensation. I was dizzy, swirling in a deep, almost black darkness. Patterns (symbols?) swirled around me, enveloped me. That euphoric rush of vast movement. Of further soul displacement. The feeling is nearly indescribable for those who have never felt this mode of spirit travel. Normally I would feel vibrations accompanying the movement, along with the roaring of some type of wind. This time I didn’t. It was comfortably disorienting and smooth. I think I have been reaching further states of growth and these temporal transitions are much smoother now. I am becoming much more attuned to these varying states of being.

...

“Yes, my other body is in 3rd dimension earth right now sleeping.”

He thought it was absolutely amazing that I was lying in bed ‘asleep’ somewhere else. His exact words, “WOW!” shaking his head as if in disbelief. He was extremely excited and said to Lisa, “Can you believe this?! How can someone accomplish that? He (referring to me) is 9 planets/planes (?) out!” Both of them thought that that was incredible, but I had no clue what they were talking about.

We talked a lot, much of it I don’t fully remember. Lisa had given all three of us a crushed leaf/tiny stick with branches (?). They started to eat theirs. I asked them what it was and they told me to eat it. I did. It was bland and a little pungent. They thought it tasted horrible, but it was not too bad for me as it was so bland. I remember the leaf/stick having come from a plant that has large pea ponds on it. The pea pod was large and very dry. We cracked open and ate the dime-sized peas. Somehow I know that the leaf/stick was eaten so that it would do something to us, but they never told me what. The peas were just to munch on.

I again asked them what the plant was. Alan pronounced it 3 or 4 times until I could get it right. Phonetically, it is LEGWOW.

Innately, we all knew that it was time for me to head back. I asked them if I was going to see them again and they mysteriously replied with a, “Possibly. Who knows?”
I put my head back into Lisa’s lap. They told me to make a sound. “Like this,” Lisa said. It was a low garbled hum. I followed her and hummed along. Immediately as I started to hum Alan bent over me and blew smoke in my face.
Near darkness. Vast movement. Strange swirling symbols. I was back in bed.

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OK, but real quick. I was strapped down laying on my back on some type of metal or smooth stone slab in a dark cavern. I was at a slight incline, facing a wall that had demons in it. There was some type of 'helmet' placed over my head...kind of suffocating. Then, 4 black objects were stuffed down my throat. It was lizard, mouse, insect and slug. All of them were big enough to make it difficult when they were being crammed into my mouth. Each one made me gag and panic. Then, when those were done, the helmet slowly started filling with water. I wasn't afraid to die, so when the water rose high enough, I just breathed it in. Uncomfortable, but do-able. I started throwing up, and immediately the 'helmet' was removed. My straps were released and I threw up everything over the edge of the slab onto the floor. It was vile black nasty shit with things moving around in it.

That is just one part of a VERY extensive night. This part alone lasted a few hours.
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Good morning everyone.

I have a question for you Sept, I was wondering if you ever eat or ingest anything during these experiences? And if you do, if you can taste what you eat...

If you can, does what you eat taste like it would in the waking world?

Have you eaten anything one would considered off-world foods?

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Not in the majority of these experiences. There has been one or two where I 'digested' something. There had been a number of them where I used to inhale some smokey substance that would help me retain lucidity. It had been my 'crutch' for a while until I could naturally stay lucid as long as I wish.

I will post a couple experiences as examples. Give me a sec, though.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I find it strange how easy it is for me to taste things when I eat them while I am sleeping.

Taste exactly the same.

How is this possible I wonder? Sensory memory of 'tastes' which can re-manifest in the dream state.

hmm
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I see it as memory residual. I can taste things very easily in my 'dreams'.
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
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I take that back. I know the significance of them, but I will not discuss those more disturbing ones.

lol, and to think the one with the black bugs/animals I had to gag on while drowning is not one of the more disturbing ones.

Stare into the abyss, and the abyss may stare back....indeed.
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
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Oh my.

The second experience sounds awful Sept.

Reminds me a bit of the movie I watched last night. It sound like you were in Hell.
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Hi Sept and all else here. Good Morning. Hope you had a good 4th.

Please before you discount me because of my ramblings here and there on this site understand I am just trying to figure out what is going on with myself and my family. I know I sound like I am in complete madness sometimes. This is real for us. Please treat this post entirely alone on it's own from anything else I have ever said. I need your help. Thank you.

Something happened last night that reminded me of some things I saw on this thread and now I see this description of top left crown radiating pain.

Last night while walking home my 18 year old daughter said her head hurt. She explained it exactly like you said, same area. Been that way for a few days. the one she was having last night was intense. What happened before reminded me of something I am pretty sure I saw here regarding controlling water.

In New Orleans they do the fireworks on the river. There are two barges. The dueling barges. We got there towards the end. After the big show was over we went down to sit on log we have been watching the river traffic from lately. She wanted to touch the water. Told her not to because the rock levee is a steep slant, current is strong, but that she could sit down by the edge. There was about 5 feet between the log and the water.

There was NO river traffic at this time because they shut it down. Fireworks from other communities on the other side were still going off. Lighting in the distance. Lumineres being floated into the sky. Very lovely sky watching. We were talking and she was sitting quietly in front of us. All of a sudden this v shaped wave starts coming towards us. We told her to back up. She did not hear us. The wave started rolling in and washing up on her. It had this strange appearance like it was reaching up to grab her. We yelled at her to back up, she did. I told her to stop thinking whatever she was thinking. It calmed down immediately. Again there was no river traffic. NO boats.

I asked her what she was thinking. She said since I would not let her touch the water she was sitting there, eyes closed thinking about what it would belike to be under the water. Would she still be able to see the fireworks and the lights. When the first wave hit her she opened her eyes. She asked me if we were yelling at her. She did not hear us. She had put herself in a trance. She said when she opened her eyes she saw the wave trying to grab her.

We sat there for a few minutes. The boats started moving again. Two paddle wheels passed by. Then a large normal wave rolled in. She started giggling and saying how different it was from "her wave." My kid danced the whole way home. She realized her power. Then the lighting bolt hit her left crown again.

For all of the insane and surreal things we have experienced since 12/21/12 this was one of the weirdest yet most affirming of the reality we are now living in. This power we are all born with coming into us.

So please tell me what the hell is really going on. We did not imagine this. It is what is is I guess. Beautiful, exciting. Hope FULL.
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good morning nola, i like that /z\
the ache/pain in your daughters head is likely her altering frame of mind which effectively is electricity becoming noticeably (consciously) more active in parts of brain where before it was not thus there is a degree of short term noticeable "soreness"
the direction your daughters frame of mind is going is noticed by her and water interaction as in, conscious environment = feelings that provide information between your daughter and our environment that make sense to the 2 of them at the moment of their mutual feelings, your daughters and our environments
a bit of a dramatic example i agree but i am sure your daughter and our environment will sort it out as they become used to each others scales and meanings
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
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Oh my.

The second experience sounds awful Sept.

Reminds me a bit of the movie I watched last night. It sound like you were in Hell.
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Generally, if something is occurring in my dream I do not like, I will wake myself up. I feel that may not be an option for you, or you purposely keep yourself there.
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It was both for awhile. Sometimes, in the beginning, I would not be released. I could not wake up or remove myself from the situation.

Then, I was discovering that I must follow them through to the end, or have recurring themes. That was tough, having to go through with them knowing I could just pop out if I wished. But, I knew there was something occurring, some reason why I must follow through to the end. So, I didn't question, I just bucked up and forbid myself from being a pussy and backing down.

I asked an 'angel' one time what it was going to take to release myself from having these bad experiences.

"Stand your ground," she said, and would say or do nothing more. That tiny little experience changed my life instantly.

EDIT: Oh, and 'Hell' is much worse than nightmares. I am not speaking of biblical hell. There is an experience that can be much worse than that.
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Yeah, that's it. Never alone comes to mind.
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That reminds me of the ending of High Anxiety; Where Burt finds he's not as alone in the shower as he thinks.

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lmao
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good morning nola, i like that /z\
the ache/pain in your daughters head is likely her altering frame of mind which effectively is electricity becoming noticeably (consciously) more active in parts of brain where before it was not thus there is a degree of short term noticeable "soreness"
the direction your daughters frame of mind is going is noticed by her and water interaction as in, conscious environment = feelings that provide information between your daughter and our environment that make sense to the 2 of them at the moment of their mutual feelings, your daughters and our environments
a bit of a dramatic example i agree but i am sure your daughter and our environment will sort it out as they become used to each others scales and meanings
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Thank you yes. The electricity in our brains expanding and waking up those parts we have not used before.

All three of us have this water thing going on. It was not the first time recently that the wake seemed to rev up when we are near the waters edge. It will start lapping at us. MS river is not something you want to take a dip in. Perhaps a trip to the coast soon is in order. Throw some salt, hopefully not corexit it in the mix.

I have not experienced the pain so much as the whole crown tingling at points. I have gotten very good at figuring our what "messages" are what and from where depending on the "tingle" location. Which side "rings" whatever.

This has been a beautiful experience. Spent my whole life searching, waiting for this time I realize now. As much as sometimes I feel like I am "special" I am so comforted that this is happening to many. SO very many.

I have to remember to remain calm and find courage to not ramble off the insane aspects of it I feel. When my anxiety is high I start to lose it. When people start making fun of me I really lose it.

Thank you so much for responding.
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Oh my.

The second experience sounds awful Sept.

Reminds me a bit of the movie I watched last night. It sound like you were in Hell.
[link to www.imdb.com]


Generally, if something is occurring in my dream I do not like, I will wake myself up. I feel that may not be an option for you, or you purposely keep yourself there.
 Quoting: Seer777


It was both for awhile. Sometimes, in the beginning, I would not be released. I could not wake up or remove myself from the situation.

Then, I was discovering that I must follow them through to the end, or have recurring themes. That was tough, having to go through with them knowing I could just pop out if I wished. But, I knew there was something occurring, some reason why I must follow through to the end. So, I didn't question, I just bucked up and forbid myself from being a pussy and backing down.

I asked an 'angel' one time what it was going to take to release myself from having these bad experiences.

"Stand your ground," she said, and would say or do nothing more. That tiny little experience changed my life instantly.
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I think you would resonate with the movie above. It sounds quite similar to what you are describing.

I had attempted reading Dante's Inferno some years back but didn't get past the 3 ring.

I figured the movie would be disturbing due the theme, but it was more so than I anticipated.


You will have to 'sign in' to Youtube to view this, I believe. There is a content warning.

For good reason.


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Maybe I will watch that this weekend. I think I can view it on NetFlix.

I had certain experiences that occurred. Then, I read Dante's Inferno and the experiences were nearly exact. I realized when he wrote it, he was not 'making things up' about the rings of 'Hell', but they were somehow accurate descriptions of some astral area.
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Oh my.

The second experience sounds awful Sept.

Reminds me a bit of the movie I watched last night. It sound like you were in Hell.
[link to www.imdb.com]


Generally, if something is occurring in my dream I do not like, I will wake myself up. I feel that may not be an option for you, or you purposely keep yourself there.
 Quoting: Seer777


It was both for awhile. Sometimes, in the beginning, I would not be released. I could not wake up or remove myself from the situation.

Then, I was discovering that I must follow them through to the end, or have recurring themes. That was tough, having to go through with them knowing I could just pop out if I wished. But, I knew there was something occurring, some reason why I must follow through to the end. So, I didn't question, I just bucked up and forbid myself from being a pussy and backing down.

I asked an 'angel' one time what it was going to take to release myself from having these bad experiences.

"Stand your ground," she said, and would say or do nothing more. That tiny little experience changed my life instantly.

EDIT: Oh, and 'Hell' is much worse than nightmares. I am not speaking of biblical hell. There is an experience that can be much worse than that.
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Funny, I would correlate dream conciousness with the ability to control ones physiologic responses to emotional stimuli.

Emotions, like the roll out of happenstance in a completely controllable dream sequence ( inner rather than external cofactors in gauging segue) are contingent on ones awareness of context and available potentiality.

It sounds easy, but what we believe has been manufactured in it's particular way to seemingly be as incorruptible as outwardly material sequence.

Thus is created a hard materiality which obfuscates potential as sheerly as a wall.

The echoes I watch of repeated stories tell this quite indubitably. Most react in what is deemed appropriately predisposed patterning.

Hell is the tiny buttons on a handheld device with an overzealous autocorrect in a time intensive environment.
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I've had some that are of a much more disturbing nature, that I will not discuss, I think ever. But, there is some significance to them, though what they could be, I am not completely sure. The significance will vary in accordance to the situations, I imagine.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Oh my.

The second experience sounds awful Sept.

Reminds me a bit of the movie I watched last night. It sound like you were in Hell.
[link to www.imdb.com]


Generally, if something is occurring in my dream I do not like, I will wake myself up. I feel that may not be an option for you, or you purposely keep yourself there.
 Quoting: Seer777


It was both for awhile. Sometimes, in the beginning, I would not be released. I could not wake up or remove myself from the situation.

Then, I was discovering that I must follow them through to the end, or have recurring themes. That was tough, having to go through with them knowing I could just pop out if I wished. But, I knew there was something occurring, some reason why I must follow through to the end. So, I didn't question, I just bucked up and forbid myself from being a pussy and backing down.

I asked an 'angel' one time what it was going to take to release myself from having these bad experiences.

"Stand your ground," she said, and would say or do nothing more. That tiny little experience changed my life instantly.

EDIT: Oh, and 'Hell' is much worse than nightmares. I am not speaking of biblical hell. There is an experience that can be much worse than that.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Funny, I would correlate dream conciousness with the ability to control ones physiologic responses to emotional stimuli.

Emotions, like the roll out of happenstance in a completely controllable dream sequence ( inner rather than external cofactors in gauging segue) are contingent on ones awareness of context and available potentiality.

It sounds easy, but what we believe has been manufactured in it's particular way to seemingly be as incorruptible as outwardly material sequence.

Thus is created a hard materiality which obfuscates potential as sheerly as a wall.

The echoes I watch of repeated stories tell this quite indubitably. Most react in what is deemed appropriately predisposed patterning.

Hell is the tiny buttons on a handheld device with an overzealous autocorrect in a time intensive environment.
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Maybe I will watch that this weekend. I think I can view it on NetFlix.

I had certain experiences that occurred. Then, I read Dante's Inferno and the experiences were nearly exact. I realized when he wrote it, he was not 'making things up' about the rings of 'Hell', but they were somehow accurate descriptions of some astral area.
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Read the book. Watching the movie is like eating someone elses premasticated pablum.

Oh to be fed as a baby bird.
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Maybe I will watch that this weekend. I think I can view it on NetFlix.

I had certain experiences that occurred. Then, I read Dante's Inferno and the experiences were nearly exact. I realized when he wrote it, he was not 'making things up' about the rings of 'Hell', but they were somehow accurate descriptions of some astral area.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Read the book. Watching the movie is like eating someone elses premasticated pablum.

Oh to be fed as a baby bird.

 Quoting: Dionysian Fractaliscious


rofl

It was entertaining if a bit poignant.


Dante's Circles of Hell and Crowley's Rings of Aethyrs are ringing a bell.

But why 9 and 30?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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