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The Coldest Spot in the Known Universe

NASA researchers are planning to create the coldest spot in the known universe inside the International Space Station................

......... At such low temperatures, ordinary concepts of solid, liquid and gas are no longer relevant. Atoms interacting just above the threshold of zero energy create new forms of matter that are essentially ... quantum.

Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that describes the bizarre rules of light and matter on atomic scales. In that realm, matter can be in two places at once; objects behave as both particles and waves; and nothing is certain: the quantum world runs on probability.

It is into this strange realm that researchers using the Cold Atom Lab will plunge.

“We’ll begin,” says Thompson, “by studying Bose-Einstein Condensates.”.........
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i noticed when i read that the difference sept was experiencing between magnetic and electric and was wondering the significance
scaling understanding comes to mind
become peaceful with feelings (magnetism) and electricity will become noticing of your empathic feelings and acknowledge accordingly
remembering
electricity causes magnetism to exist and although the two are eternal thus they possess no one before the other their synergy is unique and replicated the risk assessment technology i told sept about that possess 2 personalities and both personalities had to agree before the the synergistic response to the "operator" prompts cooperation (function)
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I had this thought from your saying electricity causes magnetism to exist...that the pulse or particle causes the wave to exist? scratching
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Think of the pulse as a change of state. Turgidity(thickness) as it becomes too dense it pops. The density is an excited state.

It propels(builds) and pops.

Sex and mucous membranes. To run the rubicon(cross the membrane)
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
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The Coldest Spot in the Known Universe

NASA researchers are planning to create the coldest spot in the known universe inside the International Space Station................

......... At such low temperatures, ordinary concepts of solid, liquid and gas are no longer relevant. Atoms interacting just above the threshold of zero energy create new forms of matter that are essentially ... quantum.

Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that describes the bizarre rules of light and matter on atomic scales. In that realm, matter can be in two places at once; objects behave as both particles and waves; and nothing is certain: the quantum world runs on probability.

It is into this strange realm that researchers using the Cold Atom Lab will plunge.

“We’ll begin,” says Thompson, “by studying Bose-Einstein Condensates.”.........
 Quoting: NASA

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: aether



i noticed when i read that the difference sept was experiencing between magnetic and electric and was wondering the significance
scaling understanding comes to mind
become peaceful with feelings (magnetism) and electricity will become noticing of your empathic feelings and acknowledge accordingly
remembering
electricity causes magnetism to exist and although the two are eternal thus they possess no one before the other their synergy is unique and replicated the risk assessment technology i told sept about that possess 2 personalities and both personalities had to agree before the the synergistic response to the "operator" prompts cooperation (function)
 Quoting: aether


I had this thought from your saying electricity causes magnetism to exist...that the pulse or particle causes the wave to exist? scratching
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Think of the pulse as a change of state. Turgidity(thickness) as it becomes too dense it pops. The density is an excited state.

It propels(builds) and pops.

Sex and mucous membranes. To run the rubicon(cross the membrane)
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Look back a few pages where I said somesuch thing about dominos.
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
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Lol, find him a more durable girlfriend.
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
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Lol, find him a more durable girlfriend.
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lol.

The first two were stuffed duck pillows. This one is a regular dog bed pillow. So tougher in that regard. But sheesh. Hopefully, he falls asleep soon.
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
 Quoting: Seer777


Lol, find him a more durable girlfriend.
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lol.

The first two were stuffed duck pillows. This one is a regular dog bed pillow. So tougher in that regard. But sheesh. Hopefully, he falls asleep soon.
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We had an alpha around that just humped everything. Every summer there were swarms of his progeny about. I can imagine the heights the canine libido can hit.
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So, who has dibs on the groundhog tommorrow?

I say evil weather continues.
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
 Quoting: Seer777


Lol, find him a more durable girlfriend.
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lol.

The first two were stuffed duck pillows. This one is a regular dog bed pillow. So tougher in that regard. But sheesh. Hopefully, he falls asleep soon.
 Quoting: Seer777


We had an alpha around that just humped everything. Every summer there were swarms of his progeny about. I can imagine the heights the canine libido can hit.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Yes. This is just annoying. I took away the pillow and he went for my friends' backpack. I am gonna crate him I think.

Spray bottle as well.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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but organic everything feel the environment they are something within thus everything organic possess a degree of self because everything organic knows what it is by the singular effect of what it is within telling it so
just like us
we know we are a person because the singular effect of our universe causes us to know we are

a cell in a body knows it is a cell because the singular effect of a body causes the cell to know it is a cell

singular effect we know is the synergy of all things that are the completed unit whatever that unit is
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I find that an interesting concept.

'Completed unit'. A thing is only complete when viewed as such. Gestalt. The whole is different than the sum of it's parts'. 13 milliseconds.

But the parts are wholes as well. Until taken to a sum of their parts. Smaller and smaller.
[link to people.eku.edu]

To bigger and bigger.

The further in or out one goes, shows the thought of a 'complete unit' is illusory.

To my sense...
 Quoting: Seer777


well that depends of what you are looking for

if you are looking to see that everything is something because it exists within something else to be that something which it is
that is true
but
to the something within something to be that something, the something is what it is meant to be, the completed unit

singular effect (synergy) is always caused by 2 or more competed units prompting for themselves and for their environment something that can and does only exist because there are 2 or more completed units to cause it to be so
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An easy effective visualization is to place a sphere on 2 dimensional plane (gameboard). Effectively, the sphere is equally displaced in every direction thus static(unmoving) or compelled by an irregularity in either itself or the surface or external energies acting on that surface.

How many parameters(variables) make up that objects state?

Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.

Most are discarded for the sake of simplicity.
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yes
and we can now add 99.999% of our material dimension is space/vacuum/non material dimensions
thus the 2 spheres, wherever they occur will be experiencing the synergy (forces) caused by the density of the non material dimensions to cause them to be so
and
organic = conscious process thus we can begin to add the notion that the 2 spheres and their synergistic multi dimensional environment both spheres are spheres within govern their scale by feelings (tensegrity) of their own and of their environment combined as in:
the overall feeling caused by their existence to themselves and what they are within
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Lol, find him a more durable girlfriend.
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lol.

The first two were stuffed duck pillows. This one is a regular dog bed pillow. So tougher in that regard. But sheesh. Hopefully, he falls asleep soon.
 Quoting: Seer777


We had an alpha around that just humped everything. Every summer there were swarms of his progeny about. I can imagine the heights the canine libido can hit.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Yes. This is just annoying. I took away the pillow and he went for my friends' backpack. I am gonna crate him I think.

Spray bottle as well.
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Lol, I have a few years until I have to start paying for all the grandkids.
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I find that an interesting concept.

'Completed unit'. A thing is only complete when viewed as such. Gestalt. The whole is different than the sum of it's parts'. 13 milliseconds.

But the parts are wholes as well. Until taken to a sum of their parts. Smaller and smaller.
[link to people.eku.edu]

To bigger and bigger.

The further in or out one goes, shows the thought of a 'complete unit' is illusory.

To my sense...
 Quoting: Seer777


well that depends of what you are looking for

if you are looking to see that everything is something because it exists within something else to be that something which it is
that is true
but
to the something within something to be that something, the something is what it is meant to be, the completed unit

singular effect (synergy) is always caused by 2 or more competed units prompting for themselves and for their environment something that can and does only exist because there are 2 or more completed units to cause it to be so
 Quoting: aether


An easy effective visualization is to place a sphere on 2 dimensional plane (gameboard). Effectively, the sphere is equally displaced in every direction thus static(unmoving) or compelled by an irregularity in either itself or the surface or external energies acting on that surface.

How many parameters(variables) make up that objects state?

Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.

Most are discarded for the sake of simplicity.
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yes
and we can now add 99.999% of our material dimension is space/vacuum/non material dimensions
thus the 2 spheres, wherever they occur will be experiencing the synergy (forces) caused by the density of the non material dimensions to cause them to be so
and
organic = conscious process thus we can begin to add the notion that the 2 spheres and their synergistic multi dimensional environment both spheres are spheres within govern their scale by feelings (tensegrity) of their own and of their environment combined as in:
the overall feeling caused by their existence to themselves and what they are within
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Yes, but, by my visualization, the immaterial is solely the path(s) not taken. It does not preclude their continual potentiality.

As we know thought crystallizes process(creates the fundaments of reality).
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well that depends of what you are looking for

if you are looking to see that everything is something because it exists within something else to be that something which it is
that is true
but
to the something within something to be that something, the something is what it is meant to be, the completed unit

singular effect (synergy) is always caused by 2 or more competed units prompting for themselves and for their environment something that can and does only exist because there are 2 or more completed units to cause it to be so
 Quoting: aether


An easy effective visualization is to place a sphere on 2 dimensional plane (gameboard). Effectively, the sphere is equally displaced in every direction thus static(unmoving) or compelled by an irregularity in either itself or the surface or external energies acting on that surface.

How many parameters(variables) make up that objects state?

Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.

Most are discarded for the sake of simplicity.
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yes
and we can now add 99.999% of our material dimension is space/vacuum/non material dimensions
thus the 2 spheres, wherever they occur will be experiencing the synergy (forces) caused by the density of the non material dimensions to cause them to be so
and
organic = conscious process thus we can begin to add the notion that the 2 spheres and their synergistic multi dimensional environment both spheres are spheres within govern their scale by feelings (tensegrity) of their own and of their environment combined as in:
the overall feeling caused by their existence to themselves and what they are within
 Quoting: aether


Yes, but, by my visualization, the immaterial is solely the path(s) not taken. It does not preclude their continual potentiality.

As we know thought crystallizes process(creates the fundaments of reality).
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


yes, everything knows what is doing (motivated) thus all things are seen to be visibly prompted and governed at all layers/levels from sub atomic to galaxy super clusters
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An easy effective visualization is to place a sphere on 2 dimensional plane (gameboard). Effectively, the sphere is equally displaced in every direction thus static(unmoving) or compelled by an irregularity in either itself or the surface or external energies acting on that surface.

How many parameters(variables) make up that objects state?

Hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands.

Most are discarded for the sake of simplicity.
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yes
and we can now add 99.999% of our material dimension is space/vacuum/non material dimensions
thus the 2 spheres, wherever they occur will be experiencing the synergy (forces) caused by the density of the non material dimensions to cause them to be so
and
organic = conscious process thus we can begin to add the notion that the 2 spheres and their synergistic multi dimensional environment both spheres are spheres within govern their scale by feelings (tensegrity) of their own and of their environment combined as in:
the overall feeling caused by their existence to themselves and what they are within
 Quoting: aether


Yes, but, by my visualization, the immaterial is solely the path(s) not taken. It does not preclude their continual potentiality.

As we know thought crystallizes process(creates the fundaments of reality).
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


yes, everything knows what is doing (motivated) thus all things are seen to be visibly prompted and governed at all layers/levels from sub atomic to galaxy super clusters
 Quoting: aether


But, we percieve it from the micro(attained awareness) and thus unfold. Rather than true awareness(enfolding). Thus it forever changes from pop to pop.

As a related aside, and an odd interjection. I got stuck playing As my guitar gently weeps. Somehow pinioned on the idea of the two refrains.....They bought and sold you....Never having told you how to unfold your love.

Cheers
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yes
and we can now add 99.999% of our material dimension is space/vacuum/non material dimensions
thus the 2 spheres, wherever they occur will be experiencing the synergy (forces) caused by the density of the non material dimensions to cause them to be so
and
organic = conscious process thus we can begin to add the notion that the 2 spheres and their synergistic multi dimensional environment both spheres are spheres within govern their scale by feelings (tensegrity) of their own and of their environment combined as in:
the overall feeling caused by their existence to themselves and what they are within
 Quoting: aether


Yes, but, by my visualization, the immaterial is solely the path(s) not taken. It does not preclude their continual potentiality.

As we know thought crystallizes process(creates the fundaments of reality).
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


yes, everything knows what is doing (motivated) thus all things are seen to be visibly prompted and governed at all layers/levels from sub atomic to galaxy super clusters
 Quoting: aether


But, we percieve it from the micro(attained awareness) and thus unfold. Rather than true awareness(enfolding). Thus it forever changes from pop to pop.

As a related aside, and an odd interjection. I got stuck playing As my guitar gently weeps. Somehow pinioned on the idea of the two refrains.....They bought and sold you....Never having told you how to unfold your love.

Cheers
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well what we are becoming use to is the reason we possess conscious process and the reason all things in this dimension know what to to so is because the 99.999% space/vacuum/non material structure(s) density that encases all material things inside and out all material everything
make it become so

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well what we are becoming use to is the reason we possess conscious process and the reason all things in this dimension know what to to so is because the 99.999% space/vacuum/non material structure(s) density that encases all material things inside and out all material everything
make it become so
 Quoting: aether


we are getting hints of it from cern

You can think of the Higgs Field as an ocean and the particles as fish. For instance, a Herring is a fish that functions very well in water. It can turn and swim pretty fast. In this case, the fish represents the particles with less mass (like an electron). The less mass the particle has, the less it interacts with the Higgs Field. Now the opposite of this would be the Top Quark, which is the most massive particle found. This can be represented by a Sunfish swimming in the ocean. However, one big difference between fish and particles is that the Top Quark is more massive than the electron but it is not bigger than the electron. In fact, they can be said to be the same size, and they both have zero size (but this is just an analogy to help you understand the differences between particles and their interactions within the Higgs Field, so don’t read too much into the fish comparison).
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the other interesting point , and the reason we are forced to alter so many meanings of our words is that 99.999% of our visible to us universe is space/vacuum/non material structure
and
99.99% of matter in our visible to us universe is in a plasma state
and
because all of our vocabularies are formed to express our observed experience in a non plasma state environment with little or no explanation of non material structure we can see we are forced to rewrite what we say to express ourselves on the topic
our universe
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the other interesting point , and the reason we are forced to alter so many meanings of our words is that 99.999% of our visible to us universe is space/vacuum/non material structure
and
99.99% of matter in our visible to us universe is in a plasma state
and
because all of our vocabularies are formed to express our observed experience in a non plasma state environment with little or no explanation of non material structure we can see we are forced to rewrite what we say to express ourselves on the topic
our universe
 Quoting: aether


Declassified research (subject to a Freedom of Information request) from the UK Ministry of Defence report UAP in the UK Air Defence Region, code named Project Condign and released to the public in 2006, draws several conclusions as to the origin of "black triangle" UFO sightings. Their researchers conclude that most, if not all, "black triangle" UFOs are formations of electrical plasma, the interaction of which creates mysterious energy fields that both refract light and produce vivid hallucinations in witnesses that are in close proximity.............
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

becoming use to it tounge

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Yes, but, by my visualization, the immaterial is solely the path(s) not taken. It does not preclude their continual potentiality.

As we know thought crystallizes process(creates the fundaments of reality).
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


yes, everything knows what is doing (motivated) thus all things are seen to be visibly prompted and governed at all layers/levels from sub atomic to galaxy super clusters
 Quoting: aether


But, we percieve it from the micro(attained awareness) and thus unfold. Rather than true awareness(enfolding). Thus it forever changes from pop to pop.

As a related aside, and an odd interjection. I got stuck playing As my guitar gently weeps. Somehow pinioned on the idea of the two refrains.....They bought and sold you....Never having told you how to unfold your love.

Cheers
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


well what we are becoming use to is the reason we possess conscious process and the reason all things in this dimension know what to to so is because the 99.999% space/vacuum/non material structure(s) density that encases all material things inside and out all material everything
make it become so
 Quoting: aether


I can simplify it to the nth degree: You (or I) are the embodiment of the conciousness we are ready for and exemplify in our interactions.

Everything, as are we, is quite full. It solely needs to recognize that it is of yet to be aware.
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the other interesting point , and the reason we are forced to alter so many meanings of our words is that 99.999% of our visible to us universe is space/vacuum/non material structure
and
99.99% of matter in our visible to us universe is in a plasma state
and
because all of our vocabularies are formed to express our observed experience in a non plasma state environment with little or no explanation of non material structure we can see we are forced to rewrite what we say to express ourselves on the topic
our universe
 Quoting: aether


Declassified research (subject to a Freedom of Information request) from the UK Ministry of Defence report UAP in the UK Air Defence Region, code named Project Condign and released to the public in 2006, draws several conclusions as to the origin of "black triangle" UFO sightings. Their researchers conclude that most, if not all, "black triangle" UFOs are formations of electrical plasma, the interaction of which creates mysterious energy fields that both refract light and produce vivid hallucinations in witnesses that are in close proximity.............
 Quoting: mod

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

becoming use to it tounge
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yes, i guess you are right
still the good news is god
the god of abraham noah etc is a triangle sitting on a throne
whatever it was or was not considered or not considered to be in the past few thousand years today hebrew god is what it always was
a triangle sitting on a throne

cleverly the name of it tells us it changes weight
and
the ark of the covenant is written as self levitating itself and those whom carried it
so we have a triangle that lifts itself and passengers
plus it is recorded when the ark was in the desert it was often seen to produce vortice of cloud far up into the sky above it
and this cause a mist generally after the vortical events
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i suppose that /z\ is a coincidence
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Newly Discovered Brain Region Helps Make Humans Unique

Scientists have identified a part of the brain that seems to be unique to humans.

The brain region, called the lateral frontal pole prefrontal cortex, was described today (Jan. 28) in the journal Neuron, and is linked to higher thinking processes.

"We tend to think that being able to plan into the future, be flexible in our approach and learn from others are things that are particularly impressive about humans," Matthew Rushworth, an experimental psychologist at Oxford University, said in a statement. "We've identified an area of the brain that appears to be uniquely human, and is likely to have something to do with these cognitive powers," ..............
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.livescience.com]

remember the high number of skulls all over gaia from our distant past with evidence of brain surgery and the tools utilized must have been advanced to form the incisions plus there is no evidence of trauma or pain for the patient

hmm
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Newly Discovered Brain Region Helps Make Humans Unique

Scientists have identified a part of the brain that seems to be unique to humans.

The brain region, called the lateral frontal pole prefrontal cortex, was described today (Jan. 28) in the journal Neuron, and is linked to higher thinking processes.

"We tend to think that being able to plan into the future, be flexible in our approach and learn from others are things that are particularly impressive about humans," Matthew Rushworth, an experimental psychologist at Oxford University, said in a statement. "We've identified an area of the brain that appears to be uniquely human, and is likely to have something to do with these cognitive powers," ..............
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.livescience.com]

remember the high number of skulls all over gaia from our distant past with evidence of brain surgery and the tools utilized must have been advanced to form the incisions plus there is no evidence of trauma or pain for the patient

hmm
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oh
we have experienced that, the hand held tools that self organize energy from the person holding the tool and the person holding the tool with empathy (distant feeling) becomes able to hold the patients emotions (no trauma/pain) while utilizing the self organizing hand held tool to "manipulate/stimulate" the brain areas required following the tool first cutting through the skull with no heat (high velocity femto tech) and no distortion/discomfort to the patient

yes we are picking it up clearer now tounge
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Good morning everyone.

Dion, Sweet P's looks awesome!
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good morning
yes , spandex tights an all tounge
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lol

hiding
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Good morning everyone.

Dion, Sweet P's looks awesome!
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Cool, I like places with ambiance to gesticulate effectively.
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I can see it now - hands filled with Bbq sauce flying everywhere. Be sure to give Chad a big hug (heart to heart) but don't squish him. lol
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well that is the point , organic machine like function

machine in the context of what our philosophies of materialism formed from is unlike organic doing visible functions which we call machine like because of the mechanical things we have created in our past prompting us to make the associations
there is no associations other than the visible signs that prompt our memory to think of our mechanical creations
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and this is why materialists possess such huge emotional problems on the topic conscious process because they possess no ability to imagine non mechanical process in association with machine like functions observed within nature

because to a materialist there must be physical contact of something possessing material structure striking (forcing) another material structure to do what it does
there can be no gaps in material contact within the machine like process
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but organic everything feel the environment they are something within thus everything organic possess a degree of self because everything organic knows what it is by the singular effect of what it is within telling it so
just like us
we know we are a person because the singular effect of our universe causes us to know we are

a cell in a body knows it is a cell because the singular effect of a body causes the cell to know it is a cell

singular effect we know is the synergy of all things that are the completed unit whatever that unit is
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Very similar to the holons concept.
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well that is the point , organic machine like function

machine in the context of what our philosophies of materialism formed from is unlike organic doing visible functions which we call machine like because of the mechanical things we have created in our past prompting us to make the associations
there is no associations other than the visible signs that prompt our memory to think of our mechanical creations
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and this is why materialists possess such huge emotional problems on the topic conscious process because they possess no ability to imagine non mechanical process in association with machine like functions observed within nature

because to a materialist there must be physical contact of something possessing material structure striking (forcing) another material structure to do what it does
there can be no gaps in material contact within the machine like process
 Quoting: aether


but organic everything feel the environment they are something within thus everything organic possess a degree of self because everything organic knows what it is by the singular effect of what it is within telling it so
just like us
we know we are a person because the singular effect of our universe causes us to know we are

a cell in a body knows it is a cell because the singular effect of a body causes the cell to know it is a cell

singular effect we know is the synergy of all things that are the completed unit whatever that unit is
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I find that an interesting concept.

'Completed unit'. A thing is only complete when viewed as such. Gestalt. The whole is different than the sum of it's parts'. 13 milliseconds.

But the parts are wholes as well. Until taken to a sum of their parts. Smaller and smaller.
[link to people.eku.edu]

To bigger and bigger.

The further in or out one goes, shows the thought of a 'complete unit' is illusory.

To my sense...
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Think of a part of the whole as a whole within itself.

Basically, complete units are whole within itself, but are also a part of something larger. This is the concept of holons. Everything is both part and whole at the same time.

Everything IS a complete unit, and each complete unit is also part of something greater than itself.
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The Coldest Spot in the Known Universe

NASA researchers are planning to create the coldest spot in the known universe inside the International Space Station................

......... At such low temperatures, ordinary concepts of solid, liquid and gas are no longer relevant. Atoms interacting just above the threshold of zero energy create new forms of matter that are essentially ... quantum.

Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that describes the bizarre rules of light and matter on atomic scales. In that realm, matter can be in two places at once; objects behave as both particles and waves; and nothing is certain: the quantum world runs on probability.

It is into this strange realm that researchers using the Cold Atom Lab will plunge.

“We’ll begin,” says Thompson, “by studying Bose-Einstein Condensates.”.........
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Nice!
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Thread: It's HOLONs...all the way up, and all the way down...

...it is all very simple once the concept is recognized...

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A holon is something that is simultaneously a whole and a part. The word was coined by Arthur Koestler in his book The Ghost in the Machine (1967, p. 48). Koestler was compelled by two observations in proposing the notion of the holon. The first observation was influenced by Nobel Prize winner Herbert Simon's parable of the two watchmakers, wherein Simon concludes that complex systems will evolve from simple systems much more rapidly if there are stable intermediate forms present in that evolutionary process than if they are not present. The second observation was made by Koestler himself in his analysis of hierarchies and stable intermediate forms in both living organisms and social organizations. He concluded that, although it is easy to identify sub-wholes or parts, wholes and parts in an absolute sense do not exist anywhere. Koestler proposed the word holon to describe the hybrid nature of sub-wholes and parts within in vivo systems. From this perspective, holons exist simultaneously as self-contained wholes in relation to their sub-ordinate parts, and dependent parts when considered from the inverse direction.






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According to Wilber, the Twenty Tenets are an attempt to summarize and draw some basic conclusions from dynamic systems theory and the contemporary evolutionary sciences. Calling them "tendencies of evolution" or "propensities of manifestation," the Twenty Tenets operate throughout the three great domains of evolution: the physiosphere, the biosphere, and the noosphere (or matter, life, and mind).

Ken Wilber’s Twenty Tenets are:

1. Reality is not composed of things or processes, but of holons, which are wholes that are simultaneously parts.

2. Holons display four fundamental capacities:
a. self-preservation (agency)
b. self-adaptation (communion)
c. self-transcendence
d. self-dissolution

3. Holons emerge.

4. Holons emerge holarchically.

5. Each holon transcends and includes its predecessors.

6. The lower sets the possibilities of the higher; the higher sets the probabilities of the lower.

7. The number of levels which a hierarchy comprises determines whether it is ‘shallow’ or ‘deep;’ and the number of holons on any given level we shall call its ‘span.’

8. Each successive level of evolution produces greater depth and less span.

9. Destroy any type of holon, and you will destroy all of the holons above it and none of the holons below it.

10. Holarchies co-evolve. The micro is always within the macro (all agency is agency in communion).

11. The micro is in relational exchange with macro at all levels of its depth.

12. Evolution has directionality:
a. increasing complexity.
b. increasing differentiation/integration.
c. increasing organization/structuration.
d. increasing relative autonomy.
e. increasing telos.

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What happens when you cut the skin? Oxidative stress reactions get a hold of neural, vascular and every supportive tissue in between. Inflammational and heightened intracellular signalling.

Reduce oxidative stress and catalytic reactions from the composition of the tools used and the ballgame changes.

Look how cancer changes when it's exposed to oxygen.
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Good morning everyone.

Dion, Sweet P's looks awesome!
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Cool, I like places with ambiance to gesticulate effectively.
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Yeah, I looked it up online. Looks really good. Sounds like a plan, Stan.
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On another note...does anyone know how to keep a puppy from humping everything?

Seemingly endlessly entertaining for everyone but me... This dog has already 'destroyed' two of his 'girlfriends'(pillows). And is working on the third.

He was 'clipped' a week ago and it hasn't seemed to slow him down. In that regard. Ugh.
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Unfortunately it is a stage. Since you got him clipped, well, that helps overall, but it may take a bit before the urge becomes secondary.

You can try spraying him with a squirt bottle when he does it, which I recommend, so he knows that it is not something you want him to do.





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