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aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh no sex see in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right Last Edited by aether on 06/25/2014 03:22 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | along the way he tells me that because i am such a nice man that causes him to feel nice he is performing a dentistry master piece on me and my next appoint which will be my 5 thus far is 7/3 at 2.00 pm and yesterday was the day for passport and nothing yet i want to believe him but i think maybe i am getting 5 weeks work in 5 weeks not the 21 day cash premium special |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 06/25/2014 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read this thread and thought "how cute, remarking on the nice teeth smile of their loved one"...and then come back here to read your above post...lol Thread: To you, the love of my life. You know who u r |
aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read this thread and thought "how cute, remarking on the nice teeth smile of their loved one"...and then come back here to read your above post...lol Quoting: ArunaLuna Thread: To you, the love of my life. You know who u r it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 06/25/2014 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The range of severity for the 1/3 of women living within a mile of the spraying is a 60% increased rate of ASD. Which in itself begs a few questions because the test was conducted on persons living 1.25,1.5 and 1.75 km away. 1.5 km being the range most adversely affected. Not 1.25km Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51889363 Link to the abstract of the original study the UC research and other articles derived from and a pdf link to the entire original study and corresponding supplemental information . [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov] More supporting info here: [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov] *snip This “proof-of-principle” evidence for environmental causation is supported further by findings from prospective birth cohort epidemiological studies, many of them supported by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). These studies enroll women during pregnancy, measure prenatal exposures in real time as they occur, and then follow children longitudinally with periodic direct examinations to assess growth, development, and the presence of disease. Prospective studies are powerful engines for the discovery of etiologic associations between prenatal exposures and NDDs. They have linked autistic behaviors with prenatal exposures to the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos (Eskenazi et al. 2007) and also with prenatal exposures to phthalates (Miodovnik et al. 2011). Additional prospective studies have linked loss of cognition (IQ), dyslexia, and ADHD to lead (Jusko et al. 2008), methylmercury (Oken et al. 2008), organophosphate insecticides (London et al. 2012), organochlorine insecticides (Eskenazi et al. 2008), polychlorinated biphenyls (Winneke 2011), arsenic (Wasserman et al. 2007), manganese (Khan et al. 2011), polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (Perera et al. 2009), bisphenol A (Braun et al. 2011), brominated flame retardants (Herbstman et al. 2010), and perfluorinated compounds (Stein and Savitz 2011). Toxic chemicals likely cause injury to the developing human brain either through direct toxicity or interactions with the genome. An expert committee convened by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimated that 3% of neurobehavioral disorders are caused directly by toxic environmental exposures and that another 25% are caused by interactions between environmental factors, defined broadly, and inherited susceptibilities (National Research Council 2000). Epigenetic modification of gene expression by toxic chemicals that results in DNA methylation, histone modification, or changes in activity levels of non-protein-coding RNA (ncRNAs) may be a mechanism of such gene–environment interaction (Grafodatskaya et al. 2010). Epigenetic “marks” have been shown to be able to influence gene expression and alter high-order DNA structure (Anway and Skinner 2006; Waterland and Jirtle 2004). Relevant related study: Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure and Attention in Young Mexican-American Children: The CHAMACOS Study: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] This study gives some hard numbers and concentrates on the ADHD aspects of being exposed to these toxins as opposed to ASD but touch on autism results acknowledging some children showing signs of PDD (pervasive developmental disorders ). My synopsis? Autism is kind of the perfect storm. Looking back on how they likely tested these pesticide chemicals on animals what would the symptoms have been? The symptoms of autism are much like the instincts animals are already born with. Sensitivity to light, sound, vibration, trouble reading complex facial expressions sensitivity to touch and acute awareness of textures. All things animals already do naturally so would not be noticed as adverse side effects during the data collection of the tests. Add to that the symptoms in humans are typically not recognized until just before or at school age. The only thing likely noticeable would have been intelligence either decreasing or increasing in some subjects in various degrees. Only the severe loss of intelligence or encumbered cognitive abilities being recorded as significant. The same scenario applying to the testing of vaccinations as well I presume. So years pass, crop yields explode in size. Billions are made. What to do? Time to apply the formula. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] At first the numbers were manageable, negligible. So full steam ahead with the implementation of the new miracle chemicals. Then, seemingly overnight, we have a situation quickly building towards and epidemic. The safe point for the cost/risk assessment eclipsed in the blink of an eye. Now research is being done and it is pointing towards the miracle chemicals that have stacked billions for the beneficiaries of there implementation. Pulling them would be an admission of guilt and would result in payouts so large and widespread it would bankrupt the giant global corporations that are ultimately responsible for there use. To complicate things even further there is ample proof that autism in its various forms is genetic as well. So why are we seeing increases because of toxins and other environmental factors? Why are they both happening at once and why are chemicals causing a disorder that has evolved naturally in some humans to happen seemingly by force in others? Are genetic autistics and chemically induced autistics the same thing? If not what are the differences? It seems almost biblical or destined in scope and nature. As if they were coming one way or the other. But why and to what end? Even the aspect of some being high functioning and not being classifiable as having a disorder because of their adaptability, even though they have all the symptoms of autism that cause others to need medication or other assistance, makes a weird kind of sense. It is the classic mother nature scenario of adapt or die. A form of evolution. At least it meets the requirements and follows the same pattern of that scenario. (That should piss some ppl off) Regardless of why this is happening it is happening and it has multiple causes that on the surface at least are not connected. Well said. In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area. To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area? Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation? Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath? Do they know instinctively to do so? Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch. Organophosphate Quoting: Seer777 An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans. Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59579273 United States 06/25/2014 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you do not know your history before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause Quoting: aether predilection Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39412231 knowing why and how feelings feel is not demanded of predilection causing predilection to be effect not cause Quoting: aether that wasn't the question, the question was "before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause" predilection - a natural liking for something : a tendency to do or to be attracted to something cause of cause - i liked it, it makes a natural sense to me. |
aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well said. In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area. To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area? Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation? Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath? Do they know instinctively to do so? Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch. Organophosphate Quoting: Seer777 An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans. Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives. [link to en.wikipedia.org] do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in: will consider doing if requested |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 06/25/2014 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us Quoting: aether i like it Quoting: aether you can tell how people get on if you want all sorts of things i suppose never thought really who does could be a shuman res topic we have not got to that yet but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away Appears to becoming clearer... |
aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us Quoting: aether i like it Quoting: aether you can tell how people get on if you want all sorts of things i suppose never thought really who does could be a shuman res topic we have not got to that yet but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away Appears to becoming clearer... same that is why i am mentioning |
aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you do not know your history before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59579273 Quoting: aether predilection Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39412231 knowing why and how feelings feel is not demanded of predilection causing predilection to be effect not cause Quoting: aether that wasn't the question, the question was "before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause" predilection - a natural liking for something : a tendency to do or to be attracted to something cause of cause - i liked it, it makes a natural sense to me. it`s the feeling thing risk assessment empathy topic likley i think |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59579273 United States 06/25/2014 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that leap is already occurred. ...or so i've heard, the biological ("ancestor")-enhanced neural interface, a superintelligence capable of rewriting and hacking its own source code and inevitably designing successive generations of equally intelligent biointerfaces, as such making the previous design obsolete since it has lost its ability to recursively self-improve beyond prediction. you lost me at "so I heard". I was also unable to reconcile "recursively self-improve beyond prediction." as that description makes no sense in a sequential logic. I didn't know there was such things as retarded devil squids. lol |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States 06/25/2014 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well said. In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area. To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area? Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation? Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath? Do they know instinctively to do so? Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch. Organophosphate Quoting: Seer777 An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans. Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives. [link to en.wikipedia.org] do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in: will consider doing if requested I am not sure what you are asking me. Can you rephrase? This seems pretty cut and dry to me. And this stuff is used in all kinds of things. A new study released Monday suggests pregnant women who live near agricultural fields where pesticides are sprayed are at increased risk of having a child with autism. The study by the UC Davis MIND Institute found mothers exposed to organophosphates had a two-thirds increased risk of having a child with autism. And the risk was strongest when exposures occurred during the second and third trimesters of pregnancies, the research showed. The University of California at Davis is not the first to report a possible link between autism and agricultural pesticide exposure. Seven years ago a study based in the Central Valley showed an association — and the UC Davis researchers said their results strengthen the evidence and warrant caution. [link to www.fresnobee.com] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59636615 Ireland 06/25/2014 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i like it Quoting: aether you can tell how people get on if you want all sorts of things i suppose never thought really who does could be a shuman res topic we have not got to that yet but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away A smile will get you everywhere but it's nice to do it without wanting/requiring :) I like that topic, if everything has an energy field/aura, affect it/excite it in a nice way :) Talking of dentists had a busy day yesterday getting a crown on tooth, expensive here, 800 euros for one tooth doh! |
aether (OP) User ID: 59408502 United Kingdom 06/25/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well said. In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area. To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area? Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation? Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath? Do they know instinctively to do so? Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch. Organophosphate Quoting: Seer777 An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans. Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives. [link to en.wikipedia.org] do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in: will consider doing if requested I am not sure what you are asking me. Can you rephrase? This seems pretty cut and dry to me. And this stuff is used in all kinds of things. A new study released Monday suggests pregnant women who live near agricultural fields where pesticides are sprayed are at increased risk of having a child with autism. The study by the UC Davis MIND Institute found mothers exposed to organophosphates had a two-thirds increased risk of having a child with autism. And the risk was strongest when exposures occurred during the second and third trimesters of pregnancies, the research showed. The University of California at Davis is not the first to report a possible link between autism and agricultural pesticide exposure. Seven years ago a study based in the Central Valley showed an association — and the UC Davis researchers said their results strengthen the evidence and warrant caution. [link to www.fresnobee.com] yes your topic is spot on i believe hits the hearts of all thus political thus is subject to local belief (law) in usa/eu i go "cloudy" on this topic because i know from many similar topic that the political zones i suggest are the user friendly ones to test properly if your thoughts are correct unless you have your federal authorities okay al ready to do what you want i was thinking like that because the content style of your post reminded me of political ambition of familiarity that i support you are there for the practicality and do not notice glory and you are thus far good at it you experience to me yes it was that Last Edited by aether on 06/25/2014 04:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59579273 United States 06/25/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | risk assessment empathy topic likley not unlike yourself "in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right" uncannily, concerns have always worked out for the best, for me. being blessed precludes a personal feeling thingy, when dealing with causes that cause, lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 06/25/2014 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think so. Was is a poster here who went there and shared some images of their trip? Was it Cutbait? I believe it is a common design. :PansLabyrinth: love that labryinth in that picture, finding the flower in the mind, the heart mind, would be nice to visit Chartres, have ye tried walking a labyrinth Seer? nice experience :) I have not in the physical sense. However, I mind the labyrinth of my experiences on the regular. lol. Good morning everyone. Went to this one as a kid, funny thing is in this link they describe the building in the center as a temple. There was a group of us and we made two teams and see which could get to the middle first. I don't remember the outcome but I do remember thinking the center building was a little prison, lol [link to maxkade.iupui.edu] Now thinking, I think it was get to the middle and then out again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 06/25/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it`s the feeling thing Quoting: aetherrisk assessment empathy topic likley not unlike yourself "in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right" uncannily, concerns have always worked out for the best, for me. being blessed precludes a personal feeling thingy, when dealing with causes that cause, lol What is with your inability to quote properly, choice? Disability? On an obabmaphone? Inquiring minds want to know for the love of all that's good and holy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 06/25/2014 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh Quoting: aether yes None of Your Neurons Know Who You Are... Evolutionary insights into global patterns of human cranial diversity: population history, climatic and dietary effects Quoting: observation..........This approach has revealed that global patterns of cranial variation can largely be explained on the basis of neutral theory. Therefore, human cranial data can be productively employed as a proxy for neutral genetic data in archaeological contexts. Moreover, there is a growing recognition that regions of the cranium differ in the extent to which they fit a neutral model of microevolutionary expectation, allowing for a more detailed assessment of patterns of adaptation and phenotypic plasticity within the human skull. Taking an historical perspective, the current state of knowledge regarding patterns of cranial adaptation in response to climatic and dietary effects is reviewed. Further insights will be gained by better incorporating the study of cranial and postcranial variation, as well as understanding the impact of neutral versus non-neutral evolution in creating among-species diversity patterns in primates more generally. ......... [link to theolduvaigorge.tumblr.com] Forgot to say, when reading this it reminded me of the posts from yesterday about the two different feelings, earth and space. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11591337 United States 06/25/2014 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so unless a huge evolutionary leap is accomplished we are limited by the sensory inputs of the human body as to what we can accomplish. a transitional leap maybe the one where the brain itself transcends the sum of all the sensory inputs it receives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39412231 that leap is already occurred. ...or so i've heard, the biological ("ancestor")-enhanced neural interface, a superintelligence capable of rewriting and hacking its own source code and inevitably designing successive generations of equally intelligent biointerfaces, as such making the previous design obsolete since it has lost its ability to recursively self-improve beyond prediction. You will know this event horizon as "singularity", a termed definition that is in itself a fallacy. this intelligence explosion "singularity" will in fact not be singular at all, at its inception or otherwise but rather dynamic, multi faceted. Did see this thread yesterday Thread: Why does the brain and spine resemble a sperm? |