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gluten and wheat?

 
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I developed a wheat/gluten allergy at 30.. wtf? GMO to blame?
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And I forgot to add, it's harder than you think to avoid it until you have to. It's such a cheap filler it is in practically everything. I can't even eat most soysauce because of gluten.. Beers are out of the question (except the hard ciders.)

If anyone lives in an area with Hardees - they make a killer "low carb burger" out of any of their burgers which is everything minus the bun and wrapped in lettuce instead. I lost some weight after going gluten free but nothing epic.

I can still drink grain alcohol because it has been distilled.
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got to disagree with wheat is bad recently i went through
several months with whole wheat as the major part of my diet

i used it in soups ground it for pancakes and breads
and even malted it and made beer.

i never felt better lost 15 lbs and had energy like i had
when i was a young man.
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Yeah, go whole (not enriched) ALL NATURAL ORGANIC WHEAT, and you will shit out so many pounds unless it's all you eat.
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^^^ THIS ^^^
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I developed a wheat/gluten allergy at 30.. wtf? GMO to blame?
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And I forgot to add, it's harder than you think to avoid it until you have to. It's such a cheap filler it is in practically everything. I can't even eat most soysauce because of gluten.. Beers are out of the question (except the hard ciders.)

If anyone lives in an area with Hardees - they make a killer "low carb burger" out of any of their burgers which is everything minus the bun and wrapped in lettuce instead. I lost some weight after going gluten free but nothing epic.

I can still drink grain alcohol because it has been distilled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17252393


bragg's liquid aminos are a good substitute for soy sauce and much healthier for you.

also beware of anything in ingredients called 'malt' or 'malto' ie maltodextrin unless it says it is derived from another source, if it does not specify, than it is wheat-based.

also if you lost weight can be related to other diet...i gained back even on the wheat free when i was making gluten free pies, having ice cream, etc...that weight i had to work off. ;)

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All GMO crops are poison.

I think a class action law suit of a 100 million americans against Monsatan is in order.
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You're right, but wheat is not genetically engineered. It has been selected and bred, but not through gene splicing. They've worked on it, but it's not being produced that way right now.
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I developed a wheat/gluten allergy at 30.. wtf? GMO to blame?
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And I forgot to add, it's harder than you think to avoid it until you have to. It's such a cheap filler it is in practically everything. I can't even eat most soysauce because of gluten.. Beers are out of the question (except the hard ciders.)

If anyone lives in an area with Hardees - they make a killer "low carb burger" out of any of their burgers which is everything minus the bun and wrapped in lettuce instead. I lost some weight after going gluten free but nothing epic.

I can still drink grain alcohol because it has been distilled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17252393


bragg's liquid aminos are a good substitute for soy sauce and much healthier for you.

also beware of anything in ingredients called 'malt' or 'malto' ie maltodextrin unless it says it is derived from another source, if it does not specify, than it is wheat-based.

also if you lost weight can be related to other diet...i gained back even on the wheat free when i was making gluten free pies, having ice cream, etc...that weight i had to work off. ;)
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I agree. Look out for anything malted. Braggs is a life saver but it's a bit expensive though.

And eating hardees, I didn't expect to lose much weight. =P It was more out of necessity than health. I was sick of being sick 24/7 and apparently my intestines were being attacked.
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You are crazy. There is no secret that you are absolutely batshit crazy. Its ok with me. Like I said, I enjoy some od your occult esoteric astrology threads.....but you are still crazy.

....just sayin.



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Yeah, every Italian and Frenchie must be batshit crazy

You sir are crazy..and in your tiny little world. Probaly never traveled outside the USA in your life.

How many countries have you traveled to sir? None I bet.
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Wheat Addiction, its happening in Italy !

Warn them of their linguini, and tortelli and vermicilli and capellini and manicotti and how evil it is !

OMG ! the Italians are dying en masse ! ..Merda!

cmon..
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Wheat Addiction, its happening in Italy !

Warn them of their linguini, and tortelli and vermicilli and capellini and manicotti and how evil it is !

OMG ! the Italians are dying en masse ! ..Merda!

cmon..
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inflammation doesn't equal death Apollo, feel stupid for having to tell you :D
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Wheat Addiction, its happening in Italy !

Warn them of their linguini, and tortelli and vermicilli and capellini and manicotti and how evil it is !

OMG ! the Italians are dying en masse ! ..Merda!

cmon..
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inflammation doesn't equal death Apollo, feel stupid for having to tell you :D
 Quoting: Acid Trip


Called sarcasm, (see definition of sarcasm)

I dont see millions of Italians incredibly fat and sluggish and in poor health, It seems only in America

Anyone thats traveled overseas can tell you this, they see the difference in Europeans and Americans.

You all need to sleuth further.
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Wheat is not inflammatory. It has a bran fiber that helps remove cholesterol and fats. Meats are inflammatory as they are very toxic decaying for days loaded with fats and noooo fiber.

You want the whole grains tho not the bleached flours. These whole grains have vital nutrients needed for cells and bone growth.

This nutritionist from Texas explains

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Wheat is not inflammatory. It has a bran fiber that helps remove cholesterol and fats. Meats are inflammatory as they are very toxic decaying for days loaded with fats and noooo fiber.

You want the whole grains tho not the bleached flours. These whole grains have vital nutrients needed for cells and bone growth.

This nutritionist from Texas explains

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Axx 975817


Meat has growth hormones in it, Veggies have pesticides, Theres no winning, esp if youre an American,

Whole grains can help flush out the toxins though.
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Bread, for me, is just to keep the mustard off my hands when eating a sandwich...I'd rather fill up on veggies and meat :)
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Try a lettuce wrap instead of bread. A little messier, but nice and crunchy, tastes great.
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"... consequences of chronic, excess carbohydrate consumption ".... serotonin depletion, magnesium depletion, B vitamin depletion, B12 insufficiency, irritability, brain fog, cognitive impairment, attentional disorders, depression...." more here [link to www.slideshare.net]
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Bread, for me, is just to keep the mustard off my hands when eating a sandwich...I'd rather fill up on veggies and meat :)
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Try a lettuce wrap instead of bread. A little messier, but nice and crunchy, tastes great.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


i use those thai rice wraps, gluten free bread, corn tortillas, etc.
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You are crazy. There is no secret that you are absolutely batshit crazy. Its ok with me. Like I said, I enjoy some od your occult esoteric astrology threads.....but you are still crazy.

....just sayin.



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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Yeah, every Italian and Frenchie must be batshit crazy

You sir are crazy..and in your tiny little world. Probaly never traveled outside the USA in your life.

How many countries have you traveled to sir? None I bet.


Your craziness has nothing to do with wheat...your just f-in crazy.
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You are crazy. There is no secret that you are absolutely batshit crazy. Its ok with me. Like I said, I enjoy some od your occult esoteric astrology threads.....but you are still crazy.

....just sayin.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070402

 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Yeah, every Italian and Frenchie must be batshit crazy

You sir are crazy..and in your tiny little world. Probaly never traveled outside the USA in your life.

How many countries have you traveled to sir? None I bet.
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Your craziness has nothing to do with wheat...your just f-in crazy.
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It's not the gluten itself.

Try bromides in bread, even gatorade, along with HFCS and other processes.

Vital wheat gluten is the future of mankind (the faux meats market) and yields much high quality protein.
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Shill for the grain and wheat industry spotted. Fuck off.
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Hes telling the truth, or all of Europe (with their love of pasta and bread) would be fat and sick which is not the case

Think about it, America is not the whole world. There are other countries out there that are skinnier than us and more healthy. Expand your mind.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


The wheat we eat today is a hybridized abomination. It is not the wheat your parents and great grandparents ate growing up. And people are getting fat and sick. Modern wheat is addictive, spikes blood sugar, and makes people hungrier than they should be. It blocks the absorption of nutrients. Diabetes and obesity rates have skyrocketed due to the dwarf wheat in foods today.

This wheat is different, it is much worse than the wheat of old.
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Wheat is not inflammatory. It has a bran fiber that helps remove cholesterol and fats. Meats are inflammatory as they are very toxic decaying for days loaded with fats and noooo fiber.

You want the whole grains tho not the bleached flours. These whole grains have vital nutrients needed for cells and bone growth.

This nutritionist from Texas explains

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Axx 975817


Wrong, whole grains are not good for you. Americans are health conscious, the problem is the health industry is giving worthless advice. We should be eating a more paleo-like diet. Wheat is a subsidized crop, food recommendations are not based on what is best for the human body.

Fat and cholesterol are not bad for the human body, it is the inflammation caused by unhealthy foods like wheat which cause heart disease. The medical industry doesn't have an interest in recommending a truly healthy diet because it would get in the way of profits. Allopathic medicine uses drugs, not healthy foods.
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Bleach and white flour are not good for you. That does not mean wheat is good for you. Get a clue, people have been listening to this dietary advice and are only getting sicker.
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Bleach and white flour are not good for you. That does not mean wheat is good for you. Get a clue, people have been listening to this dietary advice and are only getting sicker.
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The dietary advice I mean is the myth that low-fat, wheat filled diets are healthy. They are the exact opposite of healthy. These diets cause degeneration. Eat real meat, lots of fat, no gluten, no dairy. A paleo diet basically.
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You are crazy. There is no secret that you are absolutely batshit crazy. Its ok with me. Like I said, I enjoy some od your occult esoteric astrology threads.....but you are still crazy.

....just sayin.





Yeah, every Italian and Frenchie must be batshit crazy

You sir are crazy..and in your tiny little world. Probaly never traveled outside the USA in your life.

How many countries have you traveled to sir? None I bet.
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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST



Your craziness has nothing to do with wheat...your just f-in crazy.
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Crazy cause I wont give up my spaghetti and toast, youre nuts. Send me to the camps, dictator style.

Im not going to be controlled by any food dictator.
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Been gluten free for over a year. All I can say is what an utter transformation.

Everything one can imagine to improve health and vitality can be associated with stopping gluten ingestion.
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Bleach and white flour are not good for you. That does not mean wheat is good for you. Get a clue, people have been listening to this dietary advice and are only getting sicker.
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The dietary advice I mean is the myth that low-fat, wheat filled diets are healthy. They are the exact opposite of healthy. These diets cause degeneration. Eat real meat, lots of fat, no gluten, no dairy. A paleo diet basically.
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You know how much growth hormones are pumped into meat? and how many toxins are in the fat?
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Bleach and white flour are not good for you. That does not mean wheat is good for you. Get a clue, people have been listening to this dietary advice and are only getting sicker.
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The dietary advice I mean is the myth that low-fat, wheat filled diets are healthy. They are the exact opposite of healthy. These diets cause degeneration. Eat real meat, lots of fat, no gluten, no dairy. A paleo diet basically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323


I eat a diet rich in fish, potatoes and steamed vegetables like squash and cauliflower.

Lots of kiwi and blackberries as well.
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Your craziness has nothing to do with wheat...your just f-in crazy.
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 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Crazy cause I wont give up my spaghetti and toast, youre nuts. Send me to the camps, dictator style.

Im not going to be controlled by any food dictator.




Crazy is right. You cant read either. AC said:

Your craziness has nothing to do with wheat...your just f-in crazy.

I must agree. Youre threads can be fun tho.
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Scientists have discovered that the human body response after ingestion of wheat is similar to that of an opiate. In addition the gluten in wheat causes a harmful inflammatory response in most people. "We just can’t say that yet, not definitively. It may be addictive, but not to everyone."
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I am willing to bet that we wouldn't have the issues we're having today with wheat if it was unadulterated wheat.

It is insane how capitalism behaves. We are talking about men making fortunes at the cost of others welfare and safety. Science and medicine have been exposed for the wicked tools they've been allowed to become! It is ridiculous to think otherwise!
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Bleach and white flour are not good for you. That does not mean wheat is good for you. Get a clue, people have been listening to this dietary advice and are only getting sicker.
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The dietary advice I mean is the myth that low-fat, wheat filled diets are healthy. They are the exact opposite of healthy. These diets cause degeneration. Eat real meat, lots of fat, no gluten, no dairy. A paleo diet basically.
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You know how much growth hormones are pumped into meat? and how many toxins are in the fat?
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST




If your knowledge of the esoteric is as limited as your knowledge of diet then your credibility is completely lost. You freely talk about diet and yoiu clearly dont know very much about it. When you talk about esoterica most of us dont have the knowledge to call you out but you might be just as full of shit with the rants you go on vis a vis those topics.

If someone is willing to bullshit about even minor details they lose all credibility with me. Are you full of shit Apollo??
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Scientists have discovered that the human body response after ingestion of wheat is similar to that of an opiate. In addition the gluten in wheat causes a harmful inflammatory response in most people. "We just can’t say that yet, not definitively. It may be addictive, but not to everyone."
[link to www.marksdailyapple.com] more here...


[link to www.sott.net]
[link to www.celiac.com]
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I am willing to bet that we wouldn't have the issues we're having today with wheat if it was unadulterated wheat.

It is insane how capitalism behaves. We are talking about men making fortunes at the cost of others welfare and safety. Science and medicine have been exposed for the wicked tools they've been allowed to become! It is ridiculous to think otherwise!
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Scientists have discovered that the human body response after ingestion of wheat is similar to that of an opiate. In addition the gluten in wheat causes a harmful inflammatory response in most people. "We just can’t say that yet, not definitively. It may be addictive, but not to everyone."
[link to www.marksdailyapple.com] more here...


[link to www.sott.net]
[link to www.celiac.com]
 Quoting: Acid Trip


I am willing to bet that we wouldn't have the issues we're having today with wheat if it was unadulterated wheat.

It is insane how capitalism behaves. We are talking about men making fortunes at the cost of others welfare and safety. Science and medicine have been exposed for the wicked tools they've been allowed to become! It is ridiculous to think otherwise!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16945421


Money corrupts everything eventually. People make decisions based on money all the way through the causal train. From pharma company, thier rep, the doctor...blah blah blah. We promote the use of products because they are subsidized and have lower cost. Almost the entire grocery store is filled with wheat and corn products. We use HFCS because its much cheaper than natural sweeteners (corn is subsidized). Same with aspartane. The doctors and most of the health care industry really doesnt want you healthy for obvious reasons. Science hides the truth about reality because if they dont they lose funding. I could go on and on. Money corrupts.

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