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HEART SURGEON SPILLS THE BEANS!

 
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My father out lived his heart surgeon by 22 years He takes niacin every day, his heart surgeon was 4 years younger then my father, my father also drank and smoked for 20 years. Refused to take chloresterol lowering drugs! Its all a fucking scam. Lower your fat intake dont eat pork and take niacin.
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My blood pressure was 205/98 no matter how much I worked out,or what special diet I was on, I could not lose weight. I also had reoccurring blood clots in both of my lungs. I was on statins, blood thinners, blood pressure pills, and HTPZ, Water pills! I kept getting sicker, and weaker, for almost two years. I got online, and started researching. I stared with "Red man's real salt", drinking down a teaspoon a day or more, with a gallon of water. Then I discovered liquid minerals, and liquid vitamins. I took myself off all the pills! June 6th of this year I found out about coconut oil. Against the wishes of my family. I started eating coconut oil by the tablespoon fulls, like digging in an ice cream bucket with my spoon. I'm down 12 pounds. I just had my blood pressure checked yesterday at the doctors office it was 130/70. you tube Dr Bruce Fife, Joel Wallach, and Dr Leonard Coldwell! These Dr's have saved my life!
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Vitamin C deficiencies also cause hardening of the arteries also.

Great find. Thanks sk
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yea, I read Linus Paulings papers, bought his Vitamin C, very expensive. My doctor is always on me to take statins since my cholesterol is over 190, but every kind I take makes my body ache so I stop taking them.
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Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
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Vitamin C deficiencies also cause hardening of the arteries also.

Great find. Thanks sk
 Quoting: seeker2


yea, I read Linus Paulings papers, bought his Vitamin C, very expensive. My doctor is always on me to take statins since my cholesterol is over 190, but every kind I take makes my body ache so I stop taking them.
 Quoting: MONSTER

Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Agree, the only change I make is not to buy processed salad dressings. About 90% are made with soybean oil. So easy to get a jar, add oil (olive oil, coconut oil, or grapeseed oil), add vinegar (red wine vinegar, balsamic vinegar), shake and pour! You can add herbs, sea salt, etc but really just the oil and vinegar are great on a salad, especially if you have goodies like olives and blue cheese and cucumbers on the salad, even cold leftover salmon ... they make a perfect dinner especially on warm nights.
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Having worked in and studies cardiology for over 25 years I'm well aware that statins do not work for everyone but that really doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a go, especially if yore not in a position to eat healthy foods of exercise.
Certainly eating the likes of oatmeal or foods high in plant sterols are far more palatable and just as good as statins (which I have instead of statins) but when it boils down to it you're having to do this because you've possibly not looked after yourself in the first place!

The chronic inflammation biti don't agree with. Not sure where's he's dreamt that up from...
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Having worked in and studies cardiology for over 25 years I'm well aware that statins do not work for everyone but that really doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a go, especially if yore not in a position to eat healthy foods of exercise.
Certainly eating the likes of oatmeal or foods high in plant sterols are far more palatable and just as good as statins (which I have instead of statins) but when it boils down to it you're having to do this because you've possibly not looked after yourself in the first place!

The chronic inflammation biti don't agree with. Not sure where's he's dreamt that up from...
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Bloody iPad keyboard!!!!!!!
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Vitamin C deficiencies also cause hardening of the arteries also.

Great find. Thanks sk
 Quoting: seeker2


yea, I read Linus Paulings papers, bought his Vitamin C, very expensive. My doctor is always on me to take statins since my cholesterol is over 190, but every kind I take makes my body ache so I stop taking them.
 Quoting: MONSTER

Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
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I've given up regular sugar-sweetened Sodas.

Is Diet Rite (with Splenda) good or bad?
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Having worked in and studies cardiology for over 25 years I'm well aware that statins do not work for everyone but that really doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a go, especially if yore not in a position to eat healthy foods of exercise.
Certainly eating the likes of oatmeal or foods high in plant sterols are far more palatable and just as good as statins (which I have instead of statins) but when it boils down to it you're having to do this because you've possibly not looked after yourself in the first place!

The chronic inflammation biti don't agree with. Not sure where's he's dreamt that up from...
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With all due respect I disagree. Inflammation is the culprit here. I am a physician in texas and have studied this extensively. Studies show that while statns are better at lowering cholesterol, Omega 3's were better at reducing cardiovascular Dx, therefore it is not the chol that is the damage but the inflammation that is controlled by the omega 3( a COX2inhibitor)....Furthermnore, statins block Hmg CoA reductase so that the body doesnt produce cholesterol...However this also blocks the bodies CoQ10, which is and anti-oxidant among other things. This coq10 would prevent the oxidation of cholesterol in the first place...So Ironically statin drugs are stopping coq10, which stops oxidation of cholesterol!!!(which is bad)

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Having worked in and studies cardiology for over 25 years I'm well aware that statins do not work for everyone but that really doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a go, especially if yore not in a position to eat healthy foods of exercise.
Certainly eating the likes of oatmeal or foods high in plant sterols are far more palatable and just as good as statins (which I have instead of statins) but when it boils down to it you're having to do this because you've possibly not looked after yourself in the first place!

The chronic inflammation biti don't agree with. Not sure where's he's dreamt that up from...
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With all due respect I disagree. Inflammation is the culprit here. I am a physician in texas and have studied this extensively. Studies show that while statns are better at lowering cholesterol, Omega 3's were better at reducing cardiovascular Dx, therefore it is not the chol that is the damage but the inflammation that is controlled by the omega 3( a COX2inhibitor)....Furthermnore, statins block Hmg CoA reductase so that the body doesnt produce cholesterol...However this also blocks the bodies CoQ10, which is and anti-oxidant among other things. This coq10 would prevent the oxidation of cholesterol in the first place...So Ironically statin drugs are stopping coq10, which stops oxidation of cholesterol!!!(which is bad)

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Do some sports to burn some calories
fat will only burn if the liver is out of glycogen
and that means to train hard and harder
Hard work gives good results
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OR heart attacks.
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My first husband did his Masters Thesis on the chemicals in our foods killing us.
After he had his degree, he heard a Doc from another country on MPR using his thesis as this Doc own work. My husband reported to the University he went to, who sued the Doc. All Thesis papers are the property of the university, so that school got several Mil in settlement. My husband got nothing.
VERY shortly after this, basically a couple months after, he had a stroke, then 9 months later a heart attack in which basically his heart burst. Before this he was the strongest man I knew and healthy as anyone his age could be. He had even had his heart checked the year before and his Doc told him he had the heart of a thirty year old. I have always thought very curious timing.
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My first husband did his Masters Thesis on the chemicals in our foods killing us.
After he had his degree, he heard a Doc from another country on MPR using his thesis as this Doc own work. My husband reported to the University he went to, who sued the Doc. All Thesis papers are the property of the university, so that school got several Mil in settlement. My husband got nothing.
VERY shortly after this, basically a couple months after, he had a stroke, then 9 months later a heart attack in which basically his heart burst. Before this he was the strongest man I knew and healthy as anyone his age could be. He had even had his heart checked the year before and his Doc told him he had the heart of a thirty year old. I have always thought very curious timing.
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Sorry for your loss :( Does seem like bad timing doesn't it.
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Sorry for your loss :( Does seem like bad timing doesn't it.


Thank you, he never got the chance to use that degree.
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Agree, the only change I make is not to buy processed salad dressings. About 90% are made with soybean oil. So easy to get a jar, add oil (olive oil, coconut oil, or grapeseed oil), add vinegar (red wine vinegar, balsamic vinegar), shake and pour! You can add herbs, sea salt, etc but really just the oil and vinegar are great on a salad, especially if you have goodies like olives and blue cheese and cucumbers on the salad, even cold leftover salmon ... they make a perfect dinner especially on warm nights.
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Sounds delicious! Love balsamic vinegar! Olives! Forgot about how good those are for you!Let me also put a plug in for tomatoes, non-fat milk, and oranges!
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Vitamin C deficiencies also cause hardening of the arteries also.

Great find. Thanks sk
 Quoting: seeker2


yea, I read Linus Paulings papers, bought his Vitamin C, very expensive. My doctor is always on me to take statins since my cholesterol is over 190, but every kind I take makes my body ache so I stop taking them.
 Quoting: MONSTER

Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
 Quoting: We Who Watch



I've given up regular sugar-sweetened Sodas.

Is Diet Rite (with Splenda) good or bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7935649

Diet drinks are not as good as water and unsweetened tea. I won't say how "bad" I consider soda, diet or otherwise, to be, lest some cola lawyer is passing by. Let's just say they are less than conducive to the diet I outlined.
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Sparkling water or club soda are great, if you like carbonated drinks.
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yea, I read Linus Paulings papers, bought his Vitamin C, very expensive. My doctor is always on me to take statins since my cholesterol is over 190, but every kind I take makes my body ache so I stop taking them.
 Quoting: MONSTER

Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
 Quoting: We Who Watch



I've given up regular sugar-sweetened Sodas.

Is Diet Rite (with Splenda) good or bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7935649

Diet drinks are not as good as water and unsweetened tea. I won't say how "bad" I consider soda, diet or otherwise, to be, lest some cola lawyer is passing by. Let's just say they are less than conducive to the diet I outlined.
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Diet Sodas are worse than regular sodas, and the chemicals that break down in your body actually slow weight loss, as they turn into formaldihyde.
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Wow. This is a notion that shouldn't have been ignored.

Atkins is the killer.
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You didn't read, or you didn't understand the article.
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Yes, I believe I understand.

Cholesterol is bad, but not because there is too much in your body at one time, but in one spot. Since it is inflammed it causes more blockage, correct?

And the remedy to this isn't just a "low-fat diet", you need to eat natural foods that aren't abrasive to your body.

Correct?
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Here is something from your old friend whose cardiologist is head of cardiology at the fourth ranked heart hospital in Texas and the number 4 ranked in the nation: Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Chicken Breast, Sardines, Salmon, Flax Seed, Spinach, Green Beans, Limit Bread, No Potatoes, No cola only water or unsweetened tea, daily vitamin. Limit coffee. Try that for a month and see what happens to your cholesterol and your weight.

Eat salads with regular salad dressing. The better taste will encourage you to eat more salad, offsetting the small amount of extra calories in the regular salad dressing.

Get a complete night of sleep at least three times a week. Be good to yourself. It will look good on you!
 Quoting: We Who Watch



I've given up regular sugar-sweetened Sodas.

Is Diet Rite (with Splenda) good or bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7935649

Diet drinks are not as good as water and unsweetened tea. I won't say how "bad" I consider soda, diet or otherwise, to be, lest some cola lawyer is passing by. Let's just say they are less than conducive to the diet I outlined.
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Diet Sodas are worse than regular sodas, and the chemicals that break down in your body actually slow weight loss, as they turn into formaldihyde.
 Quoting: EvenT6HorizoN


I think it's the saccharin in many diet sodas that breaks down into formaldehyde.

Diet Rite Zero is better than the usual diet drinks because it uses Splenda for sweetening.

The very best choice is Zevia. It's sweetened with Stevia and doesn't contain phosphoric acid. Hard to find in stores though. I order it off of Amazon.





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