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Higgs Boson "god particle" already described in the Secrets of Enoch ?

 
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Chapter 22

In the tenth heaven the archangel Michael led Enoch to before the Lord’s face

1 On the tenth heaven, which is called Aravoth [Father of creation], I saw the appearance of the Lord’s face, like iron made to glow in fire, and brought out, emitting sparks, and it burns.

2Thus in a moment of eternity I saw the Lord’s face, but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvelous and very awful, and very, very terrible.

3And who am I to tell of the Lord’s unspeakable being, and of his very wonderful face? And I cannot tell the quantity of his many instructions, and various voices, the Lord's throne is very great and not made with hands, nor the quantity of those standing round him, troops of cherubim and seraphim, nor their incessant singing, nor his immutable beauty, and who shall tell of the ineffable greatness of his glory.

4And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me:

5Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity.

6And the archistratege (5) Michael lifted me up, and led me to before the Lord’s face.

(5) Archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael."

7And the Lord said to his servants tempting them: Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity, and the glorious ones bowed down to the Lord, and said: Let Enoch go according to Your word.

8And the Lord said to Michael: Go and take Enoch from out of his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of My glory. [physical body had to be changed into angelic body to be in the presence of God... interesting]

9And Michael did thus, as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s ray, and I looked at myself, and I was like one of his glorious ones (6).

(6) Glorious ones. Or, "one of the seven highest angels."

10And the Lord summoned one of his archangels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other archangels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick-writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of your hand.



Chapter 23

Of Enoch’s writing, how he wrote his wonderful jouneyings and the heavenly hosts and himself wrote three hundred and sixty-six books


1And he was telling me all the works of heaven, earth and sea, and all the elements, their passages and goings, and the thunderings of the thunders, the sun and moon, the goings and changes of the stars, the seasons, years, days, and hours, the risings of the wind, the numbers of the angels, and the formation of their songs, and all human things, the tongue of every human song and life, the commandments, instructions, and sweet-voiced singings, and all things that it is fitting to learn.

2And Pravuil told me: All the things that I have told you, we have written. Sit and write all the souls of mankind, however many of them are born, and the places prepared for them to eternity; for all souls are prepared to eternity, before the formation of the world.

3And all double thirty days and thirty nights, and I wrote out all things exactly, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books.




Chapter 24

Of the great secrets of God, which God revealed and told Enoch, and spoke with him face to face

1And the Lord summoned me, and said to me: Enoch, sit down on my left with Gabriel.

2And I bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord spoke to me: Enoch, beloved, all that you see, all things that are standing finished I tell to you even before the very beginning, all that I created from non-being, and visible things from invisible.

3Hear, Enoch, and take in these my words, for not to My angels have I told my secret, and I have not told them their rise, nor my endless realm, nor have they understood my creating, which I tell you to-day.

4For before all things were visible, I alone used to go about in the invisible things, like the sun from east to west, and from west to east.

5But even the sun has peace in itself, while I found no peace, because I was creating all things, and I conceived the thought of placing foundations, and of creating visible creation. [matter]




Chapter 25

God relates to Enoch, how out of the very deepest parts came forth the visible and invisible [the photon? visible = matter]

1I commanded in the very lowest parts, that visible things should come down from invisible, and Adoil (7) came down very great, and I beheld him, and lo! He had a belly of great light.

(7) Adoil. Or, "Light of creation."

2And I said to him: Become undone, Adoil, and let the visible come out of you. [let matter come out of you]

3And he came undone, and a great light came out. And I was in the midst of the great light, and as there is born light from light, there came forth a great age, and showed all creation, which I had thought to create.

4And I saw that it was good.

5And I placed for myself a throne, and took my seat on it, and said to the light: Go thence up higher and fix yourself high above the throne, and be a foundation to the highest things.

6And above the light there is nothing else, and then I bent up and looked up from my throne. [interesting, God looks up]




Chapter 26

God summons from the very deepest a second time that Archas, heavy and very red should come forth


1And I summoned the very lowest a second time, and said: Let Archas (8) come forth hard, and he came forth hard from the invisible.

(8) Archas. Or, "Spirit of creation."

2And Archas came forth, hard, heavy, and very red.

[expansion/red shift: A special relativistic redshift formula (and its classical approximation) can be used to calculate the redshift of a nearby object when spacetime is flat. However, many cases such as black holes and Big Bang cosmology require that redshifts be calculated using general relativity.[3] Special relativistic, gravitational, and cosmological redshifts can be understood under the umbrella of frame transformation laws. There exist other physical processes that can lead to a shift in the frequency of electromagnetic radiation, including scattering and optical effects; however, the resulting changes are distinguishable from true redshift and not generally referred as such (see section on physical optics and radiative transfer). [link to en.wikipedia.org]

3And I said: Be opened, Archas, and let there be born from you, and he came undone, an age came forth, very great and very dark, bearing the creation of all lower things, and I saw that it was good and said to him:

4Go thence down below, and make yourself firm, and be a foundation for the lower things, and it happened and he went down and fixed himself, and became the foundation for the lower things, and below the darkness there is nothing else.




Chapter 27


1And I commanded that there should be taken from light and darkness, and I said: Be thick, and it became thus, and I spread it out with the light, and it became water, and I spread it out over the darkness, below the light, and then I made firm the waters, that is to say the bottomless, and I made foundation of light around the water, and created seven circles from inside, and imaged the water like crystal wet and dry, that is to say like glass, and the circumcession of the waters and the other elements, and I showed each one of them its road, and the seven stars each one of them in its heaven, that they go thus, and I saw that it was good.

2And I separated between light and between darkness, that is to say in the midst of the water hither and thither, and I said to the light, that it should be the day, and to the darkness, that it should be the night, and there was evening and there was morning the first day.

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Gravitation Redshift (Archas - chapter 26 Secrets of Enoch)

In astrophysics, gravitational redshift or Einstein shift is the process by which electromagnetic radiation originating from a source that is in gravitational field is reduced in frequency, or redshifted, when observed in a region of a weaker gravitational field. This is as a direct result of Gravitational time dilation; frequency of the electromagnetic radiation is reduced in an area of a higher gravitational potential. There is a corresponding reduction in energy when electromagnetic radiation is red-shifted, as given by Planck's relation, due to the electromagnetic radiation propagating in opposition to the gravitational gradient. There also exists a corresponding blueshift when electromagnetic radiation propagates from an area of a weaker gravitational field to an area of a stronger gravitational field.

If applied to optical wavelengths, this manifests itself as a change in the colour of visible light as the wavelength of the light is increased toward the red part of the light spectrum. Since frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional, this is equivalent to saying that the frequency of the light is reduced towards the red part of the light spectrum, giving this phenomenon the name redshift.

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shameless bump for credibility of the ancients
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Excellent post salt, very thought provoking. If we step back, and take everything in that is going on, you can see so much making sense and coming together. Crazy Days Ahead!banana2

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Excellent post salt, very thought provoking. If we step back, and take everything in that is going on, you can see so much making sense and coming together. Crazy Days Ahead!banana2
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yep, the big mysteries are slowing unraveling.

best stuff ever
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Higgs-Boson & the Bible


Thus, the Higgs-Boson particle, having no mass (invisible) is responsible for producing matter (visible). Let us compare this discovery with what is written in the Bible, two thousand years ago. According to Hebrews 11:3, "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." 'What is seen is matter which has mass. The expression 'was not made out of what was visible' simply means it was made out of what was invisible; which we understand today is the Higgs-Boson particle. This recent discovery only confirms what has been written in the Bible ages ago.

In today's context, we can presume that we understand, by faith, God commanded the Higgs-Boson to produce matter in the universe. God's Word is indeed flawless (Proverbs 30:5) and is inspired by Him (2 Timothy 3:16) and the prophets spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 2:21).

The next logical question should be, “If the visible came to existence through the invisible, how did the invisible come into existence?” According to Colossians 1:16,17, it is by Christ that the invisible came into existence. As it is written, “For by Him [Christ], all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together’. According to John 1:1 the Word of God (Christ, Revelation 19:13) was God. Through Him all things were made. Without Him, nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3).

The Scientific world in the near and distant future is going to be surprised by many new discoveries which will challenge and even disprove scientific theories which have been accepted as true for many many years. However, Bible believing Christians will not be surprised because whatever we need to know about life and creation is already in the Holy Scriptures.

Ironically and unnecessarily, many Christians faith was shaken up when the Higgs-Boson was discovered. They thought it was responsible for creation because it was nick-named ‘the God particle’. But it is no more the creator of mass than a father and mother are the creator of the child. God ordained the mechanism, the process by which a child is born through the union of man and woman. In the same way, the very same God - who in His sovereign, divine intelligence - ordained the process by which the Higgs-Boson particle created mass.

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A theory of everything?

It’s perfectly within the Dominion Mandate of Genesis 1:28 to try to find a unifying concept—a simpler theory that explains many apparently disparate observations. Creationist physicist James Clerk Maxwell unified electricity and magnetism, people like J.J. Thompson and Ernest Rutherford unified atomic theory by discovering electrons and nuclei, Murray Gell-Mann and Yuval Ne’eman unified particle physics by discovering quarks, and now the Higgs may unify even further.

But this is not like the arrogance of some atheists like Stephen Hawking, who for years wanted to find a ‘theory of everything’. However, he belatedly realized that this was a pipe dream because of Gödel’s incompleteness proof:4 that in any theoretical system as complex as arithmetic or above, there would always be true statements that cannot be proven within the system. Such limits to human knowledge bring to mind Ecclesiastes 3:11 which indicates that God “has put eternity into man’s heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.”

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Higgs Boson "god particle" only relates to matter. Meaning all physical objects that can be weighed or measured to a degree.

If you think this particle is your god so be it. There are many other forces other than matter that have yet to explained before there can be a unified theory.
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Higgs Boson "god particle" only relates to matter. Meaning all physical objects that can be weighed or measured to a degree.

If you think this particle is your god so be it. There are many other forces other than matter that have yet to explained before there can be a unified theory.
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you obviously have not read the thread.

go back and read past the title.

then form a conclusion.

thanks in advance.
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Our Multidimensional Reality,
Enoch, Science, and the Holy Trinity
An academic circumspection

Sub-atomic particles


Most everyone is familiar with a simple understanding of electricity and the movement of electrons. Given the right materials, known as conductors, electrons can be excited by a magnetic field to move and miles away a simple turn of a switch will turn on a light. The electron is the easiest subatomic particle to influence and therefore it is the easiest to measure. But just look at how we measure electrons. These electrons comprise up to a third of the atoms structure, and therefore must have some type of mass. Yet, nobody ever buys twenty pounds of electricity. Instead electrons are measured by their movement and expressed, in wave form, by Ohm's Law (wattage = amperage x voltage). What happened to the mass?

Werner Heisenberg was a german scientist investigation the very question of measuring the electron. Evidentially he found is research frustrating because one of his biggest revelations was his Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. Simply put, he said that the electron was evidently moving around in its orbit so amazingly fast that no matter where to attempt to measure it you will both find it and not find it simultaneously. Because of this principle it becomes impossible to measure the electron as a thing of matter, but rather, it can only be best described as a non-thing cloud of spherical energy around the atom's nucleus. Finally, there is an explanation that combines all of the math together. However the math leads to an expression of a duality to matter that is both thing and non-thing.
Duality of matter

"Matter was considered to consist of a collection of particles (that is, to be particulate or corpuscular in nature), and was governed by a set of natural laws. Energy, when manifested as radiation, was considered a collection of waves traveling through space, and was governed by a completely different set of natural laws. However, as scientist began to investigate the properties of light, they discovered that when light travels through space it has wave properties, but when it exchanges energy with matter, light has a corpuscular properties, that is, it behaves like a stream of particles, known as photons. ... Prince Louis Victor de Broglie (1892-1987), a French theoretical physicist, received the Nobel Prize for his work on the wave nature of the electron. He proposed that all matter has a dual nature, both as electromagnetic wave radiation and corpuscular." (Segal, Bernice, G., Chemistry Experiment and Theory, 1989, 2nd ed., p. 428-429, John Wiley & Sons, New York.)

"In 1900, Max Planck (1858-1947), a German physicist, ... proposed and Albert Einstein (1879-1955) confirmed that the energy of a radiation is proportional to the frequency and therefore, the energy of a single photon is expressed as E=hv, where h is a proportionality constant, now called Planck's Constant. The energy of one photon is called one quantum of energy." (Bradley, James, E., Holum, John, R., Fundamentals of Chemistry, 1988, 3rd ed, p. 192, John Wiley & Sons, New York.)
Quantum Physics

So now, thanks to Max Planck and Albert Einstein, we have the birth of quantum physics. Finally, we have a mathematical avenue to explore other subatomic particles. They are admittedly too small be be measures as particles, but we can now measure their wave energies and describe them mathematically. To do this, scientist have built super colliders to excite and accelerate protons, then once accelerated up to incredible speeds they smash these protons into other masses and each other, in a chance to observe and measure their behaviors.

Smashing protons together has opened up a totally new world of subatomic particles. Quarks, Leptons, Positrons, Gluons, and Higgs-Bosons are just a few of the names for newly discovered particles smaller than a proton. Physicist have been mapping the behavior of some of these small particles since the 1970s and they find themselves at an impasse in the very laws of nature. Some of these smaller particles seem to diminish in energy and completely disappear from reality. This is a violation of the one of the most basic laws of nature that says that matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed, but only transferred or transmuted and is expressed by Einstein as E=mc(2).

These disappearing subatomic particles have been the subject of much study, but their existence seemed so impossibly hard to express and visualize in classic terms. Dr Lisa Randall, of Harvard and M.I.T., explains the problem of trying to understand quantum physics in classic terms is like trying to translate the entire English language into ten words of French. It can not be done because the language is so much richer and fluid than can be expressed in only ten words. (radio interview, February 25th, 2005) But in essence, the quantum world is little packets of energy measured best in wave form.

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thank you!
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hf , good stuff/read , ty
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Our Multidimensional Reality,
Enoch, Science, and the Holy Trinity
An academic circumspection

Sub-atomic particles


Most everyone is familiar with a simple understanding of electricity and the movement of electrons. Given the right materials, known as conductors, electrons can be excited by a magnetic field to move and miles away a simple turn of a switch will turn on a light. The electron is the easiest subatomic particle to influence and therefore it is the easiest to measure. But just look at how we measure electrons. These electrons comprise up to a third of the atoms structure, and therefore must have some type of mass. Yet, nobody ever buys twenty pounds of electricity. Instead electrons are measured by their movement and expressed, in wave form, by Ohm's Law (wattage = amperage x voltage). What happened to the mass?

Werner Heisenberg was a german scientist investigation the very question of measuring the electron. Evidentially he found is research frustrating because one of his biggest revelations was his Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. Simply put, he said that the electron was evidently moving around in its orbit so amazingly fast that no matter where to attempt to measure it you will both find it and not find it simultaneously. Because of this principle it becomes impossible to measure the electron as a thing of matter, but rather, it can only be best described as a non-thing cloud of spherical energy around the atom's nucleus. Finally, there is an explanation that combines all of the math together. However the math leads to an expression of a duality to matter that is both thing and non-thing.
Duality of matter

"Matter was considered to consist of a collection of particles (that is, to be particulate or corpuscular in nature), and was governed by a set of natural laws. Energy, when manifested as radiation, was considered a collection of waves traveling through space, and was governed by a completely different set of natural laws. However, as scientist began to investigate the properties of light, they discovered that when light travels through space it has wave properties, but when it exchanges energy with matter, light has a corpuscular properties, that is, it behaves like a stream of particles, known as photons. ... Prince Louis Victor de Broglie (1892-1987), a French theoretical physicist, received the Nobel Prize for his work on the wave nature of the electron. He proposed that all matter has a dual nature, both as electromagnetic wave radiation and corpuscular." (Segal, Bernice, G., Chemistry Experiment and Theory, 1989, 2nd ed., p. 428-429, John Wiley & Sons, New York.)

"In 1900, Max Planck (1858-1947), a German physicist, ... proposed and Albert Einstein (1879-1955) confirmed that the energy of a radiation is proportional to the frequency and therefore, the energy of a single photon is expressed as E=hv, where h is a proportionality constant, now called Planck's Constant. The energy of one photon is called one quantum of energy." (Bradley, James, E., Holum, John, R., Fundamentals of Chemistry, 1988, 3rd ed, p. 192, John Wiley & Sons, New York.)
Quantum Physics

So now, thanks to Max Planck and Albert Einstein, we have the birth of quantum physics. Finally, we have a mathematical avenue to explore other subatomic particles. They are admittedly too small be be measures as particles, but we can now measure their wave energies and describe them mathematically. To do this, scientist have built super colliders to excite and accelerate protons, then once accelerated up to incredible speeds they smash these protons into other masses and each other, in a chance to observe and measure their behaviors.

Smashing protons together has opened up a totally new world of subatomic particles. Quarks, Leptons, Positrons, Gluons, and Higgs-Bosons are just a few of the names for newly discovered particles smaller than a proton. Physicist have been mapping the behavior of some of these small particles since the 1970s and they find themselves at an impasse in the very laws of nature. Some of these smaller particles seem to diminish in energy and completely disappear from reality. This is a violation of the one of the most basic laws of nature that says that matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed, but only transferred or transmuted and is expressed by Einstein as E=mc(2).

These disappearing subatomic particles have been the subject of much study, but their existence seemed so impossibly hard to express and visualize in classic terms. Dr Lisa Randall, of Harvard and M.I.T., explains the problem of trying to understand quantum physics in classic terms is like trying to translate the entire English language into ten words of French. It can not be done because the language is so much richer and fluid than can be expressed in only ten words. (radio interview, February 25th, 2005) But in essence, the quantum world is little packets of energy measured best in wave form.

[link to ponderingconfusion.com]
 Quoting: Salt


from the same link:
Enoch and ancient documentation

Amazing enough, there is ancient documentation that supports the very concept of ten dimensions of space and one dimension of time. Additionally interesting, is the revelation that this very documentation also comes from close relation with the Bible Story. The book of Enoch is not scripture, but Enoch was one of the most prominent men in the predeluvian era. Enoch was in the direct lineage of Adam and he was the father of Methuselah. God invited Enoch up to heaven as His guest. Enoch later returned to earth with amazing knowledge, and eventually was called into heaven without having to die as a mortal. The Book of Enoch is not considered scripture, but apart of the Jewish Mid rash, as defined as the collection of ancient Hebrew non-scriptural literature. The Book of Enoch was found complete along side of the Dead Sea Scrolls and is used by Rabbis to explore Jewish cosmology.

In a second book, The Secrets of Enoch, he describes his journey into heaven and describes what he observes there. During his heavenly journey, Enoch describes a multidimensional reality of ten heavens and one dimension of time. Complete agreement of facts from the past and the present. A concept of ten dimensions of space and one dimension of time. I understand that the book, The Secrets of Enoch, is not a well read book, so I offer the following text for clarity. Bold print added by this author.
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of the ten dimensions that Enoch describes from his eye-witness account, God is on the tenth, but actually that is the first.
not sure how to explain that.
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The Holy Trinity

Ponder this, as Enoch went through each heaven or dimension, he reported on the many different life forms and environment he encountered. However, when the archangel Gabriel swept Enoch away and placed him before the face of the Lord, he simultaneously encountered heavens earth, nine and ten. What an interesting revelation considering that man, himself, is a three dimensional creature. How else could have three dimensional Enoch experience the personage of the Lord? Just what are the limitational constructs of our three dimensional existence?

"The First Dimension - A body in the first dimension may be represented by a straight line. One may imagine that a point when engulfs infinite number of other points in a particular direction, it forms a straight line. ... A straight line has no area or volume. Hence like a point, it also cannot be drawn, but only located, and it also has no mass as it occupies no volume." ( [link to www.geocities.com]

"The Second Dimension - Any plane figure drawn on a sheet of paper may be represented as a figure in the Second Dimension. It has two important characteristics: (1) Length and (2) Breadth. So it also has area and can be located. ... But it has no mass as it occupies no volume. The motion of a Two Dimensional figure may be in any direction on the plane on which it is lying, but it can never leave its plane (i.e. no upward or downward motion)." ( [link to www.geocities.com]

"The Third Dimension is the most familiar to us. Starting from the points and straight lines we 'draw' (We've already said that we can never draw a point or a straight line, but can only locate it. In reality what we draw on a paper is the Three Dimensional mark of graphite or ink. This mark has all the characteristics of a 3D figure, namely, length, breadth, height, surface area and volume). One can imagine a Three Dimensional cube as an infinite number of squares put one upon another in a vertical axis (i.e. applying height to a Two Dimensional square). The motion of a Three Dimensional 'solid' may be to: Its left side; Its right side; Upwards; Downwards; Forwards; Backwards. It has no particular plane of existence, but exists over and through an infinite number of planes." ( [link to www.geocities.com]

These are the three dimensions that define our existence as mortal corpuscular creatures. Could these also be the three dimensions, in which, Enoch was before the face of the Lord. Perhaps Enoch's heavens eight, nine, and ten correlate to our three dimensions of reality. A three dimensional description of God, a trinity of God's personage, is only logical to we three dimensional corpuscular creatures.

Ponder, God in the first dimension
, a 'point when engulfs infinite number of other points,' ultimate knowledge or omniscience represented in a point, of infinite points, or never ending eternal line of progression. God spread throughout the second dimension, the omnipresent plane that forms the very fabric of our universe, the either or matrix of it all. God in the third dimension, the omnipotent corpuscular expression of that matrix.

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Still to call this particle your god that can create matter that we can see from thin air is foolish.

Who says we cant do the same?
I believe we can create anything we want even MATTER!!

I am also a multi dimensional being. I am not bound to just 3 or 4 dimensions.

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Still to call this particle your god that can create matter that we can see from thin air is foolish.

Who says we cant do the same?
I believe we can create anything we want even MATTER!!
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there is no where in my post that i call this particle God.
quite the contrary.

the entire premise of this thread is to show that the "god" particle has nothing to do with finding God. but, was titled so for publishing and marketing purposes.

however, the singularity, or the higgs boson was already described in the book of Enoch.

why do you insist on making comments that in complete contrast to what i am saying here?
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What was once the greatest mystery of biology, the human body, is gradually yielding its secrets. Humanity is more than flesh; it is a continuous transducer or "biotransducer" of energies which can transform our thoughts into both positive and negative events in life. Francis Crick, one of the discoverers of DNA, in his later years urged us to focus on neural mechanisms underlying awareness. Similarly, the body of humanity has been seen by thinkers like Karl Pribram as a bio-hologram of energy quanta.1

According to The Keys of Enoch®,

humankind's physical incarnation and finely knit embodiment is the bridge needed between worlds of higher and lower intelligence.2 With higher levels of information, humankind enters new horizons beyond being a highly evolved animal seemingly into open and apparently endless frontiers. We believe this comes through a higher consciousness attunement to new levels of information beyond the normal three-dimensional realm. This can be understood via a new notion of active information being fed into the mind-body. Likewise, several centuries of development in physics and mathematics have taught us that information is a crucial player in physical systems and processes of life. According to our research, it is important to regard the physical world and its players (incarnate beings) as made of information that comes from a higher source, with energy and matter as hardware and software for the power of life! This is a crucial understanding of information evolution from above, not below.

There is some evidence that the human brain functions as a hologram with regard to long-term memory, with holographic organization shifting from higher impulses to the slow potential micro-structures that develop in the post-synaptic networks. The importance of the holograph is that the "whole is in every part", where "image constructions" of superconsciousness can also become known (see The Keys of Enoch®)

Superconsciousness involves realms beyond our space-time. Ultimately, the total alignment and resonant attunement of the bio-matrix of the whole body is seen as part of the all-pervading field of the Plenum of space that determines the quality and degree to which we will experience the holistic field. One of the most important new concepts is that of "Implicate Order", which Bohm illustrated as a vast working hologram. Bohm claims that it applies even more obviously in domains such as the biological, especially in cognitive processes and consciousness experience.3

What is exciting about all of this is that scientists are becoming more aware of theological implications in recognizing that evolutionary mechanisms are not simply the neuron or cellular resonance couplings of a few milliseconds expressed in amps, ergs, or teslas of energy, but issue forth not from a hierarchy but a holoarchy of fuller Life processes. This might mean that higher frequencies of Light and lower magnetic fields work together to stimulate creative awareness, as well as energize superconsciousness. Already science has seen in some basic forms of plant life how mutations attempt on their own to correct themselves.

[link to www.futurescience.org]
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
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Still to call this particle your god that can create matter that we can see from thin air is foolish.

Who says we cant do the same?
I believe we can create anything we want even MATTER!!

I am also a multi dimensional being. I am not bound to just 3 or 4 dimensions.
 Quoting: solar2004


Of course we can source is in all of us. If you want to get in depth we can call anti matter a god particle, dark matter is part of the OVERALL equation. I'm long winded and don't have time for a physics discussion but it all comes back to the anthropic principle, the substrate of the universe was created by and for us, its indivisible in the large scheme!Peace solar 2004
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
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ah, the existentialist.

see this link:
[link to plato.stanford.edu]
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
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I think salt is presenting the theory that anew type of metaphysical approach is upon us,a realization that science and spirituality are merging! They just use different words at this point!lol
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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What a wonderful job you have done OP.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God"

Hope I remembered that right
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… anonimalle

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What a wonderful job you have done OP.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God"

Hope I remembered that right
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hf thanks and blessings
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
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I think salt is presenting the theory that anew type of metaphysical approach is upon us,a realization that science and spirituality are merging! They just use different words at this point!lol
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not metaphysics. just physics.

there is nothing hidden.

certain ancients were given the keys to the great mysteries for the purpose of passing on to future generations.
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Yea... Sadly those words mean nothing to me as would most people.

The thing is getting this information across to people so they can actually understand it and accept.

I think people are beginning to realize "god" or Jesus is not going to be there to save them.
There are people that are going to place their belief so greatly in "god" to save them that they hang on long enough until things get better and there will be the other people that simply create, becoming "gods" to the people who did not.

What are the words we can relate to people to make them believe in themselves? Maybe there are no words; people have to live to experience and make the choice sub-consciously.


(I read more of that paper on Existentialism and trust me we are more than body and mind. There is something so much more. More than the life that engulfs the cells around me. More than all the seemingly dead and lifeless matter. More than what we can even comprehend.)

I was going to write more but gtg for few hours
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Yea... Sadly those words mean nothing to me as would most people.

The thing is getting this information across to people so they can actually understand it and accept.

I think people are beginning to realize "god" or Jesus is not going to be there to save them.
There are people that are going to place their belief so greatly in "god" to save them that they hang on long enough until things get better and there will be the other people that simply create, becoming "gods" to the people who did not.

What are the words we can relate to people to make them believe in themselves? Maybe there are no words; people have to live to experience and make the choice sub-consciously.


(I read more of that paper on Existentialism and trust me we are more than body and mind. There is something so much more. More than the life that engulfs the cells around me. More than all the seemingly dead and lifeless matter. More than what we can even comprehend.)

I was going to write more but gtg for few hours
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i wholeheartedly disagree.
i think people are beginning to realize the intelligent and divine design of the Most High Creator God and that the reality of God is fact.

i am soooo glad that i am not the center of my universe. i am also glad that i don't have to create anything here. i am not qualified and wouldn't want the job.

can i get an amen?
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
 Quoting: solar2004


I think salt is presenting the theory that anew type of metaphysical approach is upon us,a realization that science and spirituality are merging! They just use different words at this point!lol
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not metaphysics. just physics.

there is nothing hidden.

certain ancients were given the keys to the great mysteries for the purpose of passing on to future generations.
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technically, Particle physics
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Because there always has to be two different views or even better multiple views. I could agree with everything you say (or preach) and gobble it up but does it stretch anyones imagination to different views and different thoughts?

We each need to have our own imaginations. How else do you think we create?
 Quoting: solar2004


I think salt is presenting the theory that anew type of metaphysical approach is upon us,a realization that science and spirituality are merging! They just use different words at this point!lol
 Quoting: shadasonic


not metaphysics. just physics.

there is nothing hidden.

certain ancients were given the keys to the great mysteries for the purpose of passing on to future generations.
 Quoting: Salt


technically, Particle physics
 Quoting: Salt


Yes I see that, metaphysics just correlates it but it needs to be replaced by a new understanding, The physics of Christ Consciousness
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