No Ray, it was you....

sorry, *father*

touche ;))

Hi Cloud,
My name is Ray also so I was obviously drawn to this thread. I am no metaphysical artist or have any abilities out of the norm but since you posted something that caught my attention I will tell you I believe there are spiritual forces that are personalities that are ones we love that guide us in the most subliminal way. we can't prove it but we can know it......but only for a time. It leaves us guessing but also introduces us to a familiarity that leads us to new ways to observe.
Life goes on and we never lose forever what we really love....we just gain more.
It is never this or that....it is always this AND that!
Unless we decide it to be less. And than it is. But only for a time.
All the best,
-Ray

not really. mum was a bitch though. What's the problem with dad?

beautiful & such truth Ray!! my father always said, "energy never dies. we just change forms."

father is dead. just wonder if we are more free to ask our questions when our earthly fathers are gone, is all. sorry mum was a bitch. ;( i am sure she harbors the same hurts you do friend. :((

I thought this was a "call out" thread when I saw it on the front page...

btw, i love you all. & "the doors," is on tonight. when the system pushes, push back. bc how many of you people are really alive?????

what is a call ou thread?

When someone posts a thread about another member on a forum...In a confrontational way.

It's against the rules on most forums.

Or to just get a reaction out of them...

Doesn't always mean a confrontation.

ahhhhhh got it. no call out confrontation threader here....just referring to, "field of dreams," and how he created this whole make believe fantasy baseball diamond to silence the voices in his head/ heart & give eternal peace to his father.....but, wasn't about fixin his father obviously. just gave him a chance to right all the wrongs burning away at his heart. if only we were all so lucky....

I should have known that.

I'm a movie buff and can usually quote movies pretty easily.

isn't it funny the silly stuff that sticks.... :))

indeed... :)

Hi Cloud, (I hope you don't mind me calling you that),
I have a question for you.
Do you think we keep our personality when our bodies die?
Not a trick question, I am not religious just wondering what other people believe.
-Ray

no idea, i just think that on the next level we won't need to display our personalities / feathers so much. our personalities resonate to me more as our own way of coping with our trials & defeats. once we are all on diaplay as far as our inner light & goodness, will we need a personality, per se, to express that so much as we do now??

Interesting the way you put it. Makes sense. But where is the line between consciousness and personality? Ego perhaps is the feathers...and needed seemingly on this human level...sometimes. But I wonder sometimes what our thoughts would be when there is no brain or body for our feathers to stick to. Is it the freedom many of us hope for? I really don't know but I do wonder. If there is a gift called the soul It seems to me the best part of the gift would be our own unique individuality. How much of that is personality I guess is yet to be seen.
-Ray