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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12546839  United Kingdom07/20/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Project_Deimos  User ID: 1208235  United States07/20/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  dude with cigar - epic! "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
| TraderRob User ID: 14415865 United States07/20/2012 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what happened to them later? Did they die from lung cancer? I noticed that at least one of them was smoking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553802 and what about the two airplanes and their pilots.... the shockwave had to impact them too... Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States07/20/2012 10:51 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "On July 19, 1957, five men stood at Ground Zero of an atomic test that was being conducted at the Nevada Test Site. This was the test of a 2KT (kiloton) MB-1 nuclear air-to-air rocket launched from an F-89 Scorpion interceptor. The nuclear missile detonated 10,000 ft above their heads. Quoting: God1337 A reel-to-reel tape recorder was present to record their experience. You can see and hear the men react to the shock wave moments after the detonation. The placard reading "Ground Zero; Population Five" was made by Colonel Arthur B. "Barney" Oldfield, the Public Information Officer for the Continental Air Defense Command in Colorado Spring who arranged for the volunteers to participate. The five volunteers were: Colonel Sidney Bruce Lt. Colonel Frank P. Ball (technical advisor to the Steve Canyon tv show) Major Norman "Bodie" Bodinger Major John Hughes Don Lutrel and George Yoshitake, the cameraman (who wasn't a volunteer) see George discuss his work photographing atomic and nuclear explosions in "Atomic Filmmakers." [link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com] interesting no EMP their recording equipment still worked Vacuum tubes are not affected, only microchips :) I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| Judethz User ID: 13496676 United Kingdom07/20/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My grandpa used to tell stories of being very close to the underground nuclear tests he worked on in NV. He was an electrician. He lived to be 88. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17783854  That shit was everywhere. I remember my dad taking my sister and I to school back in the mid 50s in Mt Shasta and asking him why the snow was green. He said it was from the atomic bomb tests in Nevada. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20147985 United Kingdom07/20/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EMPs affect solid-state electronics. At the time of this filming and recording, there were no solid state electronics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522694 Cars made before 1980 would not be affected, either. Sorry to tell you dude but you are missinformed, for example the cats whisker diode. [link to en.wikipedia.org] After all they where well known even then thanks to Karl Ferdinand Braun who discovered Copper oxide and selenium rectifiers. He discovered this in 1847. Fixed germanium diode,s appeared in the fifties. There was actually plenty of solid state electronics around. The lack of EMP is likely due to the small size of the nuke only 2 kilo tons. Also the electronics of the day would have been pretty big and substantial (and tough as hell) by today's standards. |
| nzreva User ID: 19624091 United States07/20/2012 11:36 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EMPs affect solid-state electronics. At the time of this filming and recording, there were no solid state electronics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522694 Cars made before 1980 would not be affected, either. too bad the government literally destroyed most of the cars made before 1980 in that cash for clunkers program Thats no accident.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4896165 United Kingdom07/20/2012 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting stuff...if it had been at 1,000 feet though it would have been a different story! |
| BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States07/20/2012 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have several old cars that will survive and EMP...can make fuel from distilling corn from the garden... Quoting: BRIEF  Nice ride, Brief. 1967? 64 1/2 the first year they made them... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 19507663  Netherlands07/20/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Electro-Magnetic Pulse induces electrical currents in anything conductive If the voltage gets high enough the material will be damaged, i.e. wires will melt and solid-state electronic parts will burn out. EMP can be stopped by a Faraday Cage, basically a metal box or mesh shield. The more shielding the better. From the Wiki article already quoted above: [link to en.wikipedia.org] During the first United States nuclear test on 16 July 1945, electronic equipment was shielded due to Enrico Fermi's expectation of an electromagnetic pulse from the detonation. The official technical history for that first nuclear test states, "All signal lines were completely shielded, in many cases doubly shielded. In spite of this many records were lost because of spurious pickup at the time of the explosion that paralyzed the recording equipment." The military has been aware of the risks of high-altitude nuclear EMP attack for decades, you can be assured that all their essential equipment can handle all but the most powerful EMPs. It is civil infrastructure, for which maintenance has been underfunded for decades, and consumer electrical and electronic devices that are most at risk from an EMP attack.  Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20135487 United States07/20/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EMPs affect solid-state electronics. At the time of this filming and recording, there were no solid state electronics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 522694 Cars made before 1980 would not be affected, either. too bad the government literally destroyed most of the cars made before 1980 in that cash for clunkers program motive? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19738888  Spain07/20/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bomb was not designed as an EMP, for strong EMP you need flux compression mechanism in the bomb, like a coil of wire that is bent fast by the explosion. Had it had EMP coil then any transistors in the audio/vid equipment would have been toast, even large mass old transistors get zapped. Valves would survive. But wiring harnesses may have been damaged and fuses would blow. |
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| Life and Love User ID: 1773000 United States07/20/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to save any equipment from emp, just get a sealed, metal container and store them disconnected. The emp won't penetrate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19346666 Same thing if you go below ground sufficiently. EMP isn't magic. The grid would be done, however. You probably don't even need a metal container, just disconnect from the grid. The cell phone in your pocket is not going to get fried by EMP, but the cell phone plugged into its AC charger probably will be. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
| EvenT6HorizoN User ID: 12833553 United States07/20/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "On July 19, 1957, five men stood at Ground Zero of an atomic test that was being conducted at the Nevada Test Site. This was the test of a 2KT (kiloton) MB-1 nuclear air-to-air rocket launched from an F-89 Scorpion interceptor. The nuclear missile detonated 10,000 ft above their heads. Quoting: God1337 A reel-to-reel tape recorder was present to record their experience. You can see and hear the men react to the shock wave moments after the detonation. The placard reading "Ground Zero; Population Five" was made by Colonel Arthur B. "Barney" Oldfield, the Public Information Officer for the Continental Air Defense Command in Colorado Spring who arranged for the volunteers to participate. The five volunteers were: Colonel Sidney Bruce Lt. Colonel Frank P. Ball (technical advisor to the Steve Canyon tv show) Major Norman "Bodie" Bodinger Major John Hughes Don Lutrel and George Yoshitake, the cameraman (who wasn't a volunteer) see George discuss his work photographing atomic and nuclear explosions in "Atomic Filmmakers." [link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com] interesting no EMP their recording equipment still worked I think EMP only affects more modern equipment with PCB's / Chips in etc.? This camera would have had the old fashioned transistors / capacitors in it. If you pick up an old CB Radio from the 1980's, that would be good for backup comms in case something nuclear kicked off as I'm told they're OK with EMP but the more modern microchip lcd CB's would be toast! It's quite possible. I do know that the old vacuum tubes are immune to EMP blasts and in Russia most of their electronics equipment used vacuum tubes up until the late 80s/early 90s. Yep. Were all surface mount micro and nano processors now. SemiConductors are much more sensitive to EMP. Old hardwire equipment, built like a tank would be just fine. "I collapsed a lung, screaming at the face of ignorance. I fell victim to the excuse of hatered." - Crater "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire "Some feel the rain, others just get wet" - Bob Marley |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20148644 United Kingdom07/20/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "On July 19, 1957, five men stood at Ground Zero of an atomic test that was being conducted at the Nevada Test Site. This was the test of a 2KT (kiloton) MB-1 nuclear air-to-air rocket launched from an F-89 Scorpion interceptor. The nuclear missile detonated 10,000 ft above their heads. Quoting: God1337 A reel-to-reel tape recorder was present to record their experience. You can see and hear the men react to the shock wave moments after the detonation. The placard reading "Ground Zero; Population Five" was made by Colonel Arthur B. "Barney" Oldfield, the Public Information Officer for the Continental Air Defense Command in Colorado Spring who arranged for the volunteers to participate. The five volunteers were: Colonel Sidney Bruce Lt. Colonel Frank P. Ball (technical advisor to the Steve Canyon tv show) Major Norman "Bodie" Bodinger Major John Hughes Don Lutrel and George Yoshitake, the cameraman (who wasn't a volunteer) see George discuss his work photographing atomic and nuclear explosions in "Atomic Filmmakers." [link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com] Only men can find the tools of destruction so exciting , seductive and humorous and be the willing guinea pigs to such a destructive force. Radiation distorts the oscillation of light waves and can destroy their souls, such justice. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9151175 Canada07/20/2012 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what happened to them later? Did they die from lung cancer? I noticed that at least one of them was smoking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553802 oh noes! haha, we are definitely in 2012 i was born too late. these men have balls of steel great find OP Like military men could say no to a "request to volunteer" from the US government back then. |
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| RealmLady50 User ID: 19913647 United States07/20/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously, you have information at your fingertips. So use it to find out instead of going about not knowing the answers. The great thing about the internet is you can get your information from multiple sources. Google It! This is the best info I found on this current subject: [link to www.npr.org] If you want more, well then there is always Google Last Edited by Realmlady2003 on 07/20/2012 02:11 PM |
