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So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence!

 
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They didn't blow it up? wtf

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Just small controlled explosions to disarm the tripwires at
the front door so they could send in the bomb robot.

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Where is his mugshot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2459698


the police chief in his news conference yesterday
specifically said that he will not release the mugshot.
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The same reason they blew up the house in San Diego, destruction of evidence.

Gotta erase the FBI's fingerprints.
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Who got Shot. Wh Who Who. Cnn said Military and Pentagon Family members were at the theater. Who were these people and where did they work?
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They didn't blow it up? wtf

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Just small controlled explosions to disarm the tripwires at
the front door so they could send in the bomb robot.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


Where is his mugshot ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2459698


the police chief in his news conference yesterday
specifically said that he will not release the mugshot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20207619


Why are all police chiefs so corrupt, and criminal?

Why?

damned
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They didn't blow it up? wtf

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Just small controlled explosions to disarm the tripwires at
the front door so they could send in the bomb robot.

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev
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Where is his mugshot ?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2459698
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The local police have been ordered by the Feds not to release
his official mugshot until at least Monday morning after he appears
in court for the first time.


However, these are other pictures of James Holmes:


Left: the suspect at Occupy NY, on or about Oct 2, 2011
Center: college photo, released by Univ. of Colorado
Right: his Adult Finder picture, going by the handle "classicjimbo"

James-Holmes-cla

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:Occupy-Wall-Stre:

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Communism is another scarecrow to make the Sheeple tremble!

So Occupy your own ass !
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Not sacrificing, but destroying evidence.
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Evidence destruction is the only reason they would blow it up, because they could have destroyed something that could have led them to other booby traps around the city, or even a hostage, or someone hiding in the apartment, it makes not sense. He was definitely MK Ultra, and they probably had him infiltrate the OWS movement as well. For those of you that don't know much about MK Ultra you should take time to research, it is facinating and been going on for a very long time.
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ERASE ALL PROOF THAT HE WORKED FOR THE FEDS DUH!
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BINGO!
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
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You do not go from having the hair in the first pick to the hair in the other two.

Curly hair doesn't comb out that straight. That would have taken chemical straightening.

Not easy to do on short hair and how many guys chemically straighten their hair.

I am just happy this event has opened people's eyes to Borat. Isn't a shill suppose to be believable?
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611360


"After the shootings, police arrived at Holmes' apartment to find "techno-music" blaring from the bedroom, according to a law enforcement source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The music was on a timer and apparently started once he left for the movie theater, said the source, who was not authorized to release details of the investigation to the media."

[link to www.cnn.com]
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Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he
has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see
everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing
whatever said agent is inside.

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 Quoting: ifSHTF
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No, his loud music was on a timer,
and went off before his terror attack.

He also reportedly left his door unlocked.

Holmes HOPED that a neighbor would open the door and set
off explosions (yeah, he'd kill that person, too).

The apartment was meant to be a DISTRACTION to explode and
make the Police respond at his apartment, so he'd have more
time to kill more people at the movie theater.


Sick fuck!

:Occupy - James H:

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev
.What file, wheres the mugshot ?

Does anyone know what kind of music or song went off?

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The neighbor reported "techno" music.

It matches his profile.


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they are waiting for larry silverstein to give the ok
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Yeah he probably has an insurance policy on the building
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uhh they did not blow up his apartment you tards. they blew up one of the found devices he planted. standard procedure for 'diffusing' a bomb
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He was MK-Ultraed plain and simple. They do that shit through the phones now. Anyone who still believes that crazy lone gunmen like these acted on their own is a nut. Its all part of Obummers grand plan to ban guns.
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The occupy photo is cut out and stuck on.

That's not the real person who was being carried by police.

It is a cheap collage.
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
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He is smart enought to get tactical gear, but dumb enough to try that shitty divergence?

The cops were not going to rush to a noise ordinance call fast enough for it to succeed.

Plus, if he was going for a divergence, rig the apartment to blow up on a timer.

If you are capable of murdering people in a theatre, than why would you care about the others in the apartment?

Cops would have flocked to a blown up apartment complex, whereas the theory he was trying to blow cops up doesn't match the rest of his plan.

This thing has so many oddities. The journalist in two different public shootings? I bet a statistical analysis would show the odds of her presence for both was smaller for dumb luck than her presence at both being related.

I have no idea why she would have been at both for related reasons, but it has to be a higher probability she was at both places for somewhat similar reason, or near gun fire for the same reason.

Then the presence of military who were most likely from the intelligence sector. One of which has not been found yet.

Witnesses reporting more than one person acting similar to the shooter.

The shooter fitting, to a tee, the background of someone the CIA would recruit.

Think about it, if you were doing a hit on someone in a public place, and we're a powerful and clandestine org, how would you spin a hit you executed in public, that had collateral damage?
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611360


BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611360


BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
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wtf
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611360


BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


He was on a timetable (this was extremely well planned) and knew it was time to surrender... he wanted to live (hence not shooting at the cops) to watch the show he's created.
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Once again, there is much more going on here than you will EVER know about.

Interesting, I'll be in Denver tomorrow...

Stay tuned!
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I didn't know they blew it up. Seems over the top. I can't imagine a motive for a young man to do this unless he was being controlled.

There had to be others there to make sure it happened like planned.

I'd be more likely to believe they wanted to destroy any evidence of the others (controllers) involvement.

If he was a student there would be notes, schedules, associates, people he worked with that need to be protected....

Possibly Holmes was suspicious of what was happening to him, he was (as they said) trying to leave the school.....and the whole DOD financed program he was in.

Think of it as killing many "birds" with one stone--they silence and totally control him, destroy all evidence, conduct their ritual, divert our attention, and darken what was a surprisingly uplifting movie. Yes --saw it last night and really liked it.hf
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Ahhh the truth.. they were working though him and against Hollywood that created the movie that people will be talking about for the rest of the year. Until the next time. All calculated all planned..so are we to be fearful of another event? When it is the finger print of the FBI to do this? Why destroy evidence that would show him the dupe of the FBI or worse? Yeah too many witnesses and too much horror to analyse yet but time will tell. And you can be sure others will follow..or so they hope.
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611360


BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


He was on a timetable (this was extremely well planned) and knew it was time to surrender... he wanted to live (hence not shooting at the cops) to watch the show he's created.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


or, only a schizophrenic can turn himself on and off like that?
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He probably doesn't remember. They give these mind-control victims an amnestic, and they truly don't remember what happened.
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Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he
has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see
everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing
whatever said agent is inside.

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 Quoting: ifSHTF
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No, his loud music was on a timer,
and went off before his terror attack.
He also reportedly left his door unlocked.

Holmes HOPED that a neighbor would open the door and set
off explosions (yeah, he'd kill that person, too).

The apartment was meant to be a DISTRACTION to explode and
make the Police respond at his apartment, so he'd have more
time to kill more people at the movie theater.


Sick fuck!

:Occupy - James H:

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 Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev


you're actually falling for this? wow
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I didn't know they blew it up. Seems over the top. I can't imagine a motive for a young man to do this unless he was being controlled.

There had to be others there to make sure it happened like planned.

I'd be more likely to believe they wanted to destroy any evidence of the others (controllers) involvement.

If he was a student there would be notes, schedules, associates, people he worked with that need to be protected....

Possibly Holmes was suspicious of what was happening to him, he was (as they said) trying to leave the school.....and the whole DOD financed program he was in.

Think of it as killing many "birds" with one stone--they silence and totally control him, destroy all evidence, conduct their ritual, divert our attention, and darken what was a surprisingly uplifting movie. Yes --saw it last night and really liked it.hf
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I think there's a motive... I don't think he just snapped. Unless they find evidence that he had a recent traumatic event in his life, I just don't think he "snapped".

We know he was obsessed with V for Vendetta and the occupy movement, right? I can't think of any reason why he would do something like this *on his own* - it doesn't make sense from a tactical standpoint. He'd just be signing his own death warrant, and nothing would change. I can't see this "genius" level kid making that type of stupid mistake.

However, I could see him being 1 cell in a group of multiple cells taking action - "waking up the sheep" who are at the movies. Collateral damage in "his" effort to wake up the world. That's more where I think the angle is. I could be totally wrong, but it makes more sense to me.

This whole thing also reminds me of a uwe boll movie - Rampage.

Its about a kid who gets all dressed in body armor and shoots up his ENTIRE town - including blowing up the police dept.
[link to www.imdb.com]

I think there's more to the story.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


I agree. there is more to this than the police are telling (if they know more at all) also than HE'S telling as he recently "lawyered up" as fox news put it. this whole thing also reminds me of another movie that came out recently that i absolutely adore and just thought of in this context. "LAW ABIDING CITIZEN"
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
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BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


He was on a timetable (this was extremely well planned) and knew it was time to surrender... he wanted to live (hence not shooting at the cops) to watch the show he's created.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Scroll down the tweets to the pictures. He parked his car outside of the theater exit, where people exited the theater bleeding, right next to the door but didn't shoot anyone, not even the police as they arrived.
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didn't read the whole thread but, is there a link to evidence of them blowing up or saying they are gonna blow up the apt?
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K tards. He had LOUD music playing in his booby trapped apartment so the cops would show up on a disturbing the peace call while he was shooting up the theater. the place would blow and all the cops and firefighters and ambulances would be tied up at his apartment buying him more time to kill at the theater ....it's called a diversion.
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BUT he stopped shooting before the police arrived.

The police found him at his car, calmly smoking a cigarette.

He didn't kill as many as he could have in the theater. He didn't shoot people in the parking lot on his way to his car. He didn't shoot at the police.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


He was on a timetable (this was extremely well planned) and knew it was time to surrender... he wanted to live (hence not shooting at the cops) to watch the show he's created.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Scroll down the tweets to the pictures. He parked his car outside of the theater exit, where people exited the theater bleeding, right next to the door but didn't shoot anyone, not even the police as they arrived.
 Quoting: AWFEKKIT


He's safe if he doesn't continue shooting outside the theater... especially at cops. He knew the cops would be there... his plan was to surrender, and he did... he wanted to live.

The protective gear that he wore was to insure that he did... what fun is it to slaughter a theater full of people if you wind-up dead & can't watch the show?
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didn't read the whole thread but, is there a link to evidence of them blowing up or saying they are gonna blow up the apt?
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they were indicating they were going to blow the house to disarm the bottles, balloons and tripwires. this was all morning that they were saying this on NATIONAL TV. I didn't just make it up. lol

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