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So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! | |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain  User ID: 14931439  United States07/21/2012 01:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! Thread title and subject  Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 07/21/2012 01:28 PM  ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17582356 United States07/21/2012 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356 It's all becoming quite clear: "Navy cyber tech among those killed in Aurora" [link to www.cbsnews.com] And why did Aurora's police Chief initially say 14 people had been killed: 10 at the scene and four others reported by hospitals. At some point that was revised to be 10 at the scene and two reported by hospitals. How and why was this number revised? i have a feeling that was just chance. he was a 27yr old guy who joined the navy in 2011. Chances are - he just wanted to see batman. lol. I'm in this age group, and I want to see it. :-) If it were any other branch and any other field, I might agree. But given the number of times our own government has targeted the Office of Naval Intelligence with federally-funded, government supported terrorism – the Weather Underground and 9/11 – I suspect that this guy is key. Wow. He was with a fleet dedicated to cyber-spying and working with the NSA: U.S. Fleet Cyber Command/U.S. Tenth Fleet [link to www.google.com] Very interesting. |
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| CriticalThinking User ID: 9222520 United States07/21/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! They keep telling the media to stay to the east of the apartment, for safety reasons. But, what if the west or south or north side of the building reveals something different? They mentioned it may take days befor they "do anything" with the equipment in his place.... so maybe they are rigging it to match the story? Just a thought. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20158111  Ireland07/21/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! click---> [link to media.thedenverchannel.com] |
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| iamalive User ID: 1265054 United States07/21/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! I don't get it. Why would they blow it up and sacrifice the evidence they could find. Why can't they send in a robot or go in through a Neighbor's wall? You can't tell me that we deal with this kinda shit in Iraq/Afghanistan for 20 years, and we don't have the ability to get into a dorm room... I'm not buying that it's so booby-trapped, that they can't gain entry. If this kid can build it, they can work around it. Quoting: ifSHTF Pop bottles with unknown liquid. Balloons with powder in them, and wires all visible from outside. You can't tell me they cant get a robot in through a wall to dig around. Or how about another angle - They already said he was the smartest kid in the PHD program, so lets just say he's borderline genius. We know that he basically GAVE HIMSELF UP without a firefight. Wouldn't they think he'd have hidden this shit out of sight were he really trying to blow up his own APT if someone entered? Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. It's all becoming quite clear: "Navy cyber tech among those killed in Aurora" [link to www.cbsnews.com] And why did Aurora's police Chief initially say 14 people had been killed: 10 at the scene and four others reported by hospitals. At some point that was revised to be 10 at the scene and two reported by hospitals. How and why was this number revised? Yeah, I heard one news bit say it went to 13, and another said 14, then it went back to 12.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20158111 Ireland07/21/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! click---> [link to media.thedenverchannel.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20158111 [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 20219107 United States07/21/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! spooks have to have their records erased to join the CIA...  NOT..How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18907471 United States07/21/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! And what about the interview with his downstairs neighbors who claim that a loud techno song set on a play loop began blasting from his apartment at midnight, as if to lure someone to come in and respond to a noise complaint tripping the wires and sending the place up. The woman who went up to check on things said she had her hand on the knob and it was loose as if unlocked but she had a feeling not to turn it - wow |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 20219107 United States07/21/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! I don't get it. Why would they blow it up and sacrifice the evidence they could find. Why can't they send in a robot or go in through a Neighbor's wall? You can't tell me that we deal with this kinda shit in Iraq/Afghanistan for 20 years, and we don't have the ability to get into a dorm room... I'm not buying that it's so booby-trapped, that they can't gain entry. If this kid can build it, they can work around it. Quoting: ifSHTF Pop bottles with unknown liquid. Balloons with powder in them, and wires all visible from outside. You can't tell me they cant get a robot in through a wall to dig around. Or how about another angle - They already said he was the smartest kid in the PHD program, so lets just say he's borderline genius. We know that he basically GAVE HIMSELF UP without a firefight. Wouldn't they think he'd have hidden this shit out of sight were he really trying to blow up his own APT if someone entered? Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. It's all becoming quite clear: "Navy cyber tech among those killed in Aurora" [link to www.cbsnews.com] And why did Aurora's police Chief initially say 14 people had been killed: 10 at the scene and four others reported by hospitals. At some point that was revised to be 10 at the scene and two reported by hospitals. How and why was this number revised? Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 07/21/2012 01:52 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 14931439 United States07/21/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! there's no oops. when this was originally posted, they were going to blow it up - that was the talk. Didn't mean to offend you. Well, then it's turned into an "oops" due to no fault of yours. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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| Rabid_Wolf User ID: 20031256 United States07/21/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! I don't get it. Why would they blow it up and sacrifice the evidence they could find. Why can't they send in a robot or go in through a Neighbor's wall? You can't tell me that we deal with this kinda shit in Iraq/Afghanistan for 20 years, and we don't have the ability to get into a dorm room... I'm not buying that it's so booby-trapped, that they can't gain entry. If this kid can build it, they can work around it. Quoting: ifSHTF Pop bottles with unknown liquid. Balloons with powder in them, and wires all visible from outside. You can't tell me they cant get a robot in through a wall to dig around. Or how about another angle - They already said he was the smartest kid in the PHD program, so lets just say he's borderline genius. We know that he basically GAVE HIMSELF UP without a firefight. Wouldn't they think he'd have hidden this shit out of sight were he really trying to blow up his own APT if someone entered? Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. Pretty much my thoughts when I read that he told the police the apartment was rigged with traps. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11467141 United States07/21/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! . Quoting: ifSHTF Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. . No, his loud music was on a timer, and went off before his terror attack. He also reportedly left his door unlocked. Holmes HOPED that a neighbor would open the door and set off explosions (yeah, he'd kill that person, too). The apartment was meant to be a DISTRACTION to explode and make the Police respond at his apartment, so he'd have more time to kill more people at the movie theater. Sick fuck! :Occupy - James H: . Does anyone know what kind of music or song went off? |
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| ifSHTF (OP) User ID: 968710 United States07/21/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! there's no oops. when this was originally posted, they were going to blow it up - that was the talk. Didn't mean to offend you. Well, then it's turned into an "oops" due to no fault of yours. I'm glad this turned into an oops. I was terrified they were going to level the place and destroy any chance at evidence retrieval. Like I said, I think there's more to the story, and if they level the apt complex, there's no finding out the extra info. We can only hope its one guy who went nuts. That is the hope. However, the kid was the top performer in his PHD program. That in itself is a huge red flag to me. It indicates he's probably highly intelligent and wouldn't intentionally make stupid moves that wouldn't yield some type of tactical advantage. They need the evidence from his room. Hopefully James didn't destroy all his PC's, phone, etc. |
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| ifSHTF (OP) User ID: 968710 United States07/21/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! . Quoting: ifSHTF Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. . No, his loud music was on a timer, and went off before his terror attack. He also reportedly left his door unlocked. Holmes HOPED that a neighbor would open the door and set off explosions (yeah, he'd kill that person, too). The apartment was meant to be a DISTRACTION to explode and make the Police respond at his apartment, so he'd have more time to kill more people at the movie theater. Sick fuck!  . Does anyone know what kind of music or song went off? Loud Techno music. I was half expecting the music from V for Vendetta. lol Last Edited by ifSHTF on 07/21/2012 02:04 PM |
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| Life's-A-Bitch User ID: 1243271 United States07/21/2012 02:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! For the purpose of destroying all evidence, nothing else makes sense. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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| Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 19598372 United States07/21/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So this James Holmes - Why would they even consider blowing up the APT? What about the evidence! . Quoting: ifSHTF Maybe he planned this. Maybe he knew they'd blow it up and he has some type of biological agent in his apt, hoping they see everything and blow up his place, inadvertently dispensing whatever said agent is inside. . No, his loud music was on a timer, and went off before his terror attack. He also reportedly left his door unlocked. Holmes HOPED that a neighbor would open the door and set off explosions (yeah, he'd kill that person, too). The apartment was meant to be a DISTRACTION to explode and make the Police respond at his apartment, so he'd have more time to kill more people at the movie theater. Sick fuck! . Does anyone know what kind of music or song went off? . The neighbor reported "techno" music. It matches his profile. . |
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