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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it that people get as fucked up as you are? How does that even happen? prolly cause I'm Canadian? I don't have that same 2nd amendment whacked attitude that ignores the world around me and then spouts guns are great and without them only criminals would have guns and crime would go up, and everything bad would happen and then, and then!!!!! Of course, in the real world, countries, cities, societies who don't have this crazy 2nd amendment have, on average, lower crime rates, and lower death rates by guns. But you gun toting wannabes, just keep on spoutin yer 'truths' flame on :) ignorance is bliss, isn't it you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20232561 United States 07/21/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20232561 Stockpile that ammunition prepper. When you get totally whacked out I hope your a long way from me. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ahem, I'm not sure how to break it to you, but the 0ccutard is the one that flipped out. He damn sure wasn't a right wing prepper. Read the article. Same mindset either way. Geez - how 'bout you read it - far from the same mindset of a legally registered and vetted cch. When you drink the liberal kool aid do you forget how to think for yourself? Go check with your msm handler and get back to me... legally registered and vetted cch LOL A real cool killer and defender of what's right. Right? I bet your good with that gun in your imagination. |
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Major_Payne User ID: 20233395 United States 07/21/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article and OP make it sound as if you aren't allowed to carry a gun period. That is not true. In Colorado you can carry a concealed weapon with a permit. The place of business has the right to ban weapons on the premisses. The theater had a weapons ban not the State or City. Quoting: Major_Payne here is the first point of the link I gave you, and by the way I did not say Colorado, I said Aurora Colorado "1. Concealed Weapons Ordinances A. Concealed Carry Bans Aurora, Boulder, Broomfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, Englewood, Lakewood, Littleton, Longmont, Northglenn, Pueblo, Thornton, Westminster, Wheat Ridge" Here is the site telling you how to get your permit to carry. [link to www.denvergov.org] The law says you cannot carry a concealed weapon without a permit. As I stated the article leads you to believe there is a total ban on guns. Untrue. From the Link you gave: :1. "Along with these instructions, specific to the City and County of Denver, follow the above links. So Aurora City ordinances does not count? The article listed Denver as having the same ban. If you believe Aurora Co. has this ban please feel free to show me the link. I have been looking and I can find no such ban. I have been able to find several Conseal Carry schools in Aurora though. [link to www.equip2conceal.com] Last Edited by Major_Payne on 07/21/2012 07:16 PM |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18490415 United States 07/21/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20231976 How is it that people get as fucked up as you are? How does that even happen? prolly cause I'm Canadian? I don't have that same 2nd amendment whacked attitude that ignores the world around me and then spouts guns are great and without them only criminals would have guns and crime would go up, and everything bad would happen and then, and then!!!!! Of course, in the real world, countries, cities, societies who don't have this crazy 2nd amendment have, on average, lower crime rates, and lower death rates by guns. But you gun toting wannabes, just keep on spoutin yer 'truths' flame on :) ignorance is bliss, isn't it you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19084996 prolly cause I'm Canadian? I don't have that same 2nd amendment whacked attitude that ignores the world around me and then spouts guns are great and without them only criminals would have guns and crime would go up, and everything bad would happen and then, and then!!!!! Of course, in the real world, countries, cities, societies who don't have this crazy 2nd amendment have, on average, lower crime rates, and lower death rates by guns. But you gun toting wannabes, just keep on spoutin yer 'truths' flame on :) ignorance is bliss, isn't it you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating It proves that your society and systems, including guns and your 2nd amendment rights have not made your society safer at all. Linking to a pro gun website is zero proof. Pointing to ALL, read ALL western countries that don't have your 'rights' that keep you safe, are actually safer. lucy, you have some splainin to do! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19084996 prolly cause I'm Canadian? I don't have that same 2nd amendment whacked attitude that ignores the world around me and then spouts guns are great and without them only criminals would have guns and crime would go up, and everything bad would happen and then, and then!!!!! Of course, in the real world, countries, cities, societies who don't have this crazy 2nd amendment have, on average, lower crime rates, and lower death rates by guns. But you gun toting wannabes, just keep on spoutin yer 'truths' flame on :) ignorance is bliss, isn't it you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating Exactly. Guns SAVE LIVES. |
notgonna User ID: 10844789 United States 07/21/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20231976 Ahem, I'm not sure how to break it to you, but the 0ccutard is the one that flipped out. He damn sure wasn't a right wing prepper. Read the article. Same mindset either way. Geez - how 'bout you read it - far from the same mindset of a legally registered and vetted cch. When you drink the liberal kool aid do you forget how to think for yourself? Go check with your msm handler and get back to me... legally registered and vetted cch LOL A real cool killer and defender of what's right. Right? I bet your good with that gun in your imagination. No - the point is someone who goes thru the process of training, testing, background check and waiting to be a cch is not nearly in the same mindset as both killers he used as examples. Luckily, I've never had to discharge my weapon in an adrenaline filled emergency but I can tell you with the extensive practice I get plus my trusty crimson trace, I like my chances a whole lot more than yours... Last Edited by julesvm on 07/21/2012 07:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490415 tee hee convicted felons...touted as proof... the irony is so thick |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating It proves that your society and systems, including guns and your 2nd amendment rights have not made your society safer at all. Sure they have. How many mass murders or armed robberies occur at gun ranges and gun stores? Hmmmmmmmmm???? The only ones who AREN'T safer are those who choose to ignore their Second Amendment RIGHT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bwahahahaha! Guns don't save lives, just like guns don't kill people. You can't even keep your examples straight. Fact is, people kill people with guns, sometimes, but mostly from bullets that are shot from guns, held by people. I have never seen a gun save a life before. Sir, you do a disservice to the NRA's most successful ad campaign ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luckily, I've never had to discharge my weapon in an adrenaline filled emergency but I can tell you with the extensive practice I get plus my trusty crimson trace, I like my chances a whole lot more than yours... Quoting: notgonna That Crimson Trace is a multi-lingual communicator that says, "I'm not fucking around." LOl |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bwahahahaha! Guns don't save lives, just like guns don't kill people. You can't even keep your examples straight. Fact is, people kill people with guns, sometimes, but mostly from bullets that are shot from guns, held by people. I have never seen a gun save a life before. Sir, you do a disservice to the NRA's most successful ad campaign ever. You are full of shit. When PEOPLE try to kill PEOPLE, GUNS SAVE LIVES. Moron! |
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FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 07/21/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every establishment that has a "do not carry here" is a potential kill zone. Simple solution....don't do business with them. I've switched grocery stores, banks, and places I eat. I won't be a victim. Fuck the places that won't allow me to carry. Buffalo wild wings is one...... They changed policy after George Soros bought a big stake in them. Boycott them and every other place that wants to pull that shit. Fuck them and their kill zones. Only unaware sheep get killed. |
notgonna User ID: 10844789 United States 07/21/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article and OP make it sound as if you aren't allowed to carry a gun period. That is not true. In Colorado you can carry a concealed weapon with a permit. The place of business has the right to ban weapons on the premisses. The theater had a weapons ban not the State or City. Quoting: Major_Payne WRONG - read the ordinances. Aurora has a cch ban. Even legally authorized concealed carry holders cannot excercise their privilege within Aurora city limits. Period. Most cc holders are very in tune with the laws and their exceptions. Misinformation breeds so much more information. Fact is ONE cc holder in that theatre would have most likely averted the totality of this tragedy although even one life is horrific. Do you know what you have to go thru to get a cch? Tests and background checks plus citizenship. And yet you're okay with a system that limits cch but underground sales to criminals and non citizens can flourish? I actually believe cch should be like voting... Everyone over 18 gets one and the privilege and rights get taken away upon a finding of mental health or criminal history. Believe it or not, this would make for a safer world and a reasonable government. And don't give me the musket bs - our founding fathers were warriors - they knew the drill. Educate yourself. Seriously. LOL You are the true Dead Eye Dick. That's the best counterpoint you can come up with? At least make it challenging... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every establishment that has a "do not carry here" is a potential kill zone. Quoting: FatalW1shes Simple solution....don't do business with them. I've switched grocery stores, banks, and places I eat. I won't be a victim. Fuck the places that won't allow me to carry. Buffalo wild wings is one...... They changed policy after George Soros bought a big stake in them. Boycott them and every other place that wants to pull that shit. Fuck them and their kill zones. Only unaware sheep get killed. Even if you carry into a place like that, it's a simple trespass. THey'd have to file charges against you and I doubt they'd do that to a paying customer. That is, unless it's some GAY TARD outfit like Ben and Jerry's. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19084996 you said it! worldwide murder rate: Canada: 1.67 per 100k USA: 5.22 per 100k IRAN: 2.88 per 100k.... go figure. and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating It proves that your society and systems, including guns and your 2nd amendment rights have not made your society safer at all. Sure they have. How many mass murders or armed robberies occur at gun ranges and gun stores? Hmmmmmmmmm???? The only ones who AREN'T safer are those who choose to ignore their Second Amendment RIGHT. EVERY WESTERN COUNTRY IS SAFER THAN THE USA. As for your logic, how many gun murders are there in hospitals, churches, elementary schools???? There are no guns there. hmmmmmmmm?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19084996 Canada 07/21/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bwahahahaha! Guns don't save lives, just like guns don't kill people. You can't even keep your examples straight. Fact is, people kill people with guns, sometimes, but mostly from bullets that are shot from guns, held by people. I have never seen a gun save a life before. Sir, you do a disservice to the NRA's most successful ad campaign ever. You are full of shit. When PEOPLE try to kill PEOPLE, GUNS SAVE LIVES. Moron! Well then Guns kill people too. |
notgonna User ID: 10844789 United States 07/21/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luckily, I've never had to discharge my weapon in an adrenaline filled emergency but I can tell you with the extensive practice I get plus my trusty crimson trace, I like my chances a whole lot more than yours... Quoting: notgonna That Crimson Trace is a multi-lingual communicator that says, "I'm not fucking around." LOl You got that right! A dog could hit bullseye with that nice little add-on! LOL! Hey if it's truly about self defense, don't screw around - make sure you're gonna hit your target the first time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20231976 United States 07/21/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490415 and that proves what? it's like saying the clouds are to blame for "acid rain" how about this one" "In research sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice, in which almost 2,000 felons were interviewed, 34% of felons said they had been “scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim" and 40% of these criminals admitted that they had been deterred from committing a crime out of fear that the potential victim was armed." [link to www.humanevents.com] and there are more like it every where study your facts friend, but good debating It proves that your society and systems, including guns and your 2nd amendment rights have not made your society safer at all. Sure they have. How many mass murders or armed robberies occur at gun ranges and gun stores? Hmmmmmmmmm???? The only ones who AREN'T safer are those who choose to ignore their Second Amendment RIGHT. EVERY WESTERN COUNTRY IS SAFER THAN THE USA. As for your logic, how many gun murders are there in hospitals, churches, elementary schools???? There are no guns there. hmmmmmmmm?? Oh, but there ARE guns in hospitals and churches - and courthouses. Many docs pack - especially in the ER. Many Pastors pack and many Judges do too. GO back three grades - that should put you in about the fifth or so - and start over. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15683577 United States 07/21/2012 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A town where its the law to own a gun ! [link to www.ft.com] |
FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 07/21/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Currently in Aurora, Colorado, where the shooting took place, it is already unlawful to carry a concealed "dangerous weapon," discharge firearms, unless by law enforcement on duty or on shooting range, and have loaded firearm in motor vehicle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490415 [link to www.coloradoceasefire.org] [link to cnsnews.com] This shooting really clearly shows the failing of Liberal thinking. Gun bans only work when Criminals Obey the gun bans. Laws are only followed by law abiding citizens. Liberals seem shocked and amazed that criminals don't obey laws. So they want to pass more laws like that is actually going to do something. All it does is take away more rights from law abiding citizens. An armed society is a polite society. And what does FF mean in the title? |
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