Re-confirmed — Colorado shooter James Holmes part of Occupy movement | |
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Switchblade User ID: 17824583 Canada 07/22/2012 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Interesting astrological information on Holmes (courtesy of [link to solarisastrology.blogspot.com] ) As such, I suspect he was rather dependent on his mother who would have been cold and rather unloving (Moon square Uranus/Saturn), and if he lacked a father figure to guide him too then that lack of love would be with him until this day. I move on to the most shocking of all the aspect on this chart. The sextile between Neptune and a Mars/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio. Mars Pluto in Scorpio is such intense energy. Here is jealousy, dark underground thoughts, violent tendencies and huge determination. Many people have such a conjunction and it depends on the character of the person how this force of energy can be used. Often those with less repressed charts can use it constructively to achieve great things, but the possibility lies there to use it for more evil purposes. Recently I looked at Luka Magnotta the Canadian killer who murdered his victim in front of an internet camera. He also has a repressed chart and a close Mars/Pluto conjunction. Quite frighteningly, this Mars Pluto conjunction on Holmes is sextile to Neptune which rules creativity and the film industry. The signature of the massacre he carried out is sitting here clear as day. All it needed was to be activated. . Do you really believe that the time of year someone is born is a defining factor to weather they will or Will not kill? that's pretty far fetched, At least I think. . It makes a lot more sense than a 24-year-old with dyed RED hair being part of the Tea Party, LOL! . Well Mr. Borat, I think you and I have finally found a point that we agree on, lol Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
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Switchblade User ID: 17824583 Canada 07/22/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20276544 Yeah, and the rapes, the tens of millions in property damage, at least one DEATH that I am aware of and the spreading of disease is all about peace, right? LOL Sell you bullshit someplace else - we're not buying. Agreed and.......... If the OWS people were for the People, then they wouldn't stop the People from using the streets. As the People pay taxes for those roads and sidewalks. For OWS to deny the use of a public system, that is just wrong. Not letting kids get to school, not letting people go to work.....they ALL should be ashamed. Anyone who is interested in TRUE peaceful revolution, saddle up and get an education in politics. Enter the political scene and work REAL hard to get to the top. Where YOU can make REAL changes. Instead of shitting on the streets you protest on top of. As citizens of the parent country they have equal access to those streets you claim to be yours. and nearly all Occupy marches were planned and aproved by the parent cities If I pay taxes for those public systems, and an OWS protester with out a job (hence no taxes) pays no taxes....then yes, I do have a greater right to use those public systems more then the smelly OWSer. Why would anyone think a protest approved by the city government is a REAL protest? A real protest is one organized by the masses who vote and have taxable income or fought in a war for the USA. Not an approved welfare protester with no income and no contribution to our society. To "occupy" a location is obviously a position where one can not work. So what is it OWSers are contributing to society? How to they achieve their goals? WHAT are their goals? How are they feeding themselves? When people start asking the right questions, they soon realize the OWS movement is a propoganda trap. A cage to draw in the "would be" protesters and have them do nothing, in the open, under survailence. When the OWSers are going to Las Vegas, the leaders make their move in Richmond or Miami. To understand the political system, you need to look in a broad mind. All the OWSers are cattle and nothing more. ask an occupier, and last I checked in our countries of residence descent is a civil liberty. Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
Switchblade User ID: 17824583 Canada 07/22/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | T. for Trinity, perhaps? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20287891 haha... I tricked the tricky trickster, if so! T. as in T-Dot lol Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 19598372 United States 07/22/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: --Voltaic-- If I pay taxes for those public systems, and an OWS protester with out a job (hence no taxes) pays no taxes....then yes, I do have a greater right to use those public systems more then the smelly OWSer. . And yet this Occupier was on a federal grant, federal student loans, and Unemployment checks. It was like feeding a monster with our own flesh. . |
Xerxes User ID: 20059352 United States 07/22/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Interesting astrological information on Holmes (courtesy of [link to solarisastrology.blogspot.com] ) As such, I suspect he was rather dependent on his mother who would have been cold and rather unloving (Moon square Uranus/Saturn), and if he lacked a father figure to guide him too then that lack of love would be with him until this day. You know what this guy needed. Military or some organization with lots of mentors. Lot of mentors available in the military. They can replace a missing or distant father. A lot of this stuff in his chart sounds spot on. Last Edited by Xerxes on 07/22/2012 12:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15680976 United States 07/22/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Xerxes I wish we could get a motive on the murders. I mean the guy is alive. Any 1500 page manifesto? . He was "turned" by the Occupied movement last fall. He probably didn't have time to write manifesto, but there's going to be some damning information on his recovered laptop. . So he leaves occupy because "They weren't radical enough" for him, after he went to tea party rallies.....but he was "turned" by the occupy movement? So you have taken a tragedy and rather then focusing on the victims and what we can do to prevent this from happening again by ways of learning the signs to someone who is mentally unstable and creating better safety nets and programs for the mentally ill but instead.....you do this? Like I said before if you can prove he was an occupier for some time, big fucking deal. It doesn't speak mountains of character or any other point other then politically he gave a fuck and was willing to reach out to different groups and attempt to do something. It's too bad HE was a fucked up INDIVIDUAL. Until you get your head around that you are no better then the scum on MSM with this bullshit. Seriously you should be ashamed and embarrassed by trying to make such a connection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20287891 Canada 07/22/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: --Voltaic-- If I pay taxes for those public systems, and an OWS protester with out a job (hence no taxes) pays no taxes....then yes, I do have a greater right to use those public systems more then the smelly OWSer. . And yet this Occupier was on a federal grant, federal student loans, and Unemployment checks. It was like feeding a monster with our own flesh. I realize that all this time you were just trolling for funs, Borat. Or is it? |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 19598372 United States 07/22/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Interesting astrological information on Holmes (courtesy of [link to solarisastrology.blogspot.com] ) As such, I suspect he was rather dependent on his mother who would have been cold and rather unloving (Moon square Uranus/Saturn), and if he lacked a father figure to guide him too then that lack of love would be with him until this day. You know what this guy needed. Military or some organization with lots of mentors. Lot of mentors available in the military. They can replace a missing or distant father. A lot of this stuff in his chart sounds spot on. . And instead, his mentors were Liberal college professors. Thus, there's little surprise he turned to the Occupy movement. . |
Xerxes User ID: 20059352 United States 07/22/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Xerxes I wish we could get a motive on the murders. I mean the guy is alive. Any 1500 page manifesto? . He was "turned" by the Occupied movement last fall. He probably didn't have time to write manifesto, but there's going to be some damning information on his recovered laptop. . ways of learning the signs to someone who is mentally unstable That's part of the problem here. He was so distant that even if you knew the signs it would be hard to identify him because it sounds like he wasn't involved in anyone else's life. It doesn't sound like he was close to his own family. There should have been some indication to them that something was wrong. Last Edited by Xerxes on 07/22/2012 12:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18897865 United States 07/22/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what this guy needed. Military or some organization with lots of mentors. Quoting: Xerxes Lot of mentors available in the military. They can replace a missing or distant father. A lot of this stuff in his chart sounds spot on. . And instead, his mentors were Liberal college professors. Thus, there's little surprise he turned to the Occupy movement. . perfect! |
Xerxes User ID: 20059352 United States 07/22/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev Interesting astrological information on Holmes (courtesy of [link to solarisastrology.blogspot.com] ) As such, I suspect he was rather dependent on his mother who would have been cold and rather unloving (Moon square Uranus/Saturn), and if he lacked a father figure to guide him too then that lack of love would be with him until this day. You know what this guy needed. Military or some organization with lots of mentors. Lot of mentors available in the military. They can replace a missing or distant father. A lot of this stuff in his chart sounds spot on. . And instead, his mentors were Liberal college professors. Thus, there's little surprise he turned to the Occupy movement. . Yeah exactly. |
Switchblade User ID: 20288663 Canada 07/22/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Switchblade ask an occupier, and last I checked in our countries of residence descent is a civil liberty. . Canada tore down the last Occupy camp back in January. . Sure did, as was my point in the other thread if you remember. I think if I remember right it had something to do with Illegaly taking residence in a public park without a permit or some crap like that. Sanitation was a serious concern though. As far as I am concerned the City/Cities were within their right to evict the occupyers from the parks. It's still their right to protest though. Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10358803 United States 07/22/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People, free your minds from the socioeconomic bullshit you are being fed from all corners of society, the path, the truth is always somewhere in the middle... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18897865 United States 07/22/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh stop with debating the occupy crap already. the point is, this guy way an activist. he wanted to make an impact, a name for himself. all he needed was to fall into the right handler's arms and be pointed in a direction, supplied with goods & COACHED. somewhere that happened, just like the middle east guys get snatched up & play out their handler's fantasies of killing lots of people for some cause or "jihad" too. young males male pretty good programmable killers it seems no matter what country and nearly no matter what cause. too bad this guy didn't get laid by a girl instead as a way to work out his frustrations. I am sure in some way his piss poor ability to deal in society made him happy to just kill innocent people instead. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15680976 United States 07/22/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Xerxes I wish we could get a motive on the murders. I mean the guy is alive. Any 1500 page manifesto? . He was "turned" by the Occupied movement last fall. He probably didn't have time to write manifesto, but there's going to be some damning information on his recovered laptop. . ways of learning the signs to someone who is mentally unstable That's part of the problem here. He was so distant that even if you knew the signs it would be hard to identify him because it sounds like he wasn't involved in anyone else's life. It doesn't sound like he was close to his own family. There should have been some indication to them that something was wrong. So maybe making programs more accessible or targeted to loners? Maybe it's such a rare incident all we can do is grieve over them? I'd promote more concealed carry and self defense, an armed and protected society is a polite one but that's just one of my opinions. But like I said dedicating multiple threads to trying to figure out if he was or wasn't part of a group that has no membership? Fucking waste of time and literally seeing how excited you are getting over the possibility, I find it sad. That THIS is actually meaningful to you. If it was Scientology or ANYTHING with an actual membership, not just extremely loose-knit group of people showing up talking to people and marching, I MIGHT consider what you have to say. Proving that a small handful of ANY group are fucked up proves nothing to me other then how badly YOU want this to be what represents something because EVERY group has fucked up people in it. I mean you could turn around and get all "OH LOOK ITS AN OCCUTARD LULZ" cause that's productive. Considering the gun grab bullshit and the second shooter and shit that don't make sense you could maybe spend some of your time on something that might matter rather then desperately trying to fuel the left vs right bullshit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20287891 Canada 07/22/2012 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A year ago, Anders Breivik shot 69 teenagers in a summer camp in Norway, and he was not an "Occupy black bloc", but a right-wing extremist, with purported ties to the English Defense League. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18897865 United States 07/22/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh stop with debating the occupy crap already. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18897865 the point is, this guy way an activist. he wanted to make an impact, a name for himself. all he needed was to fall into the right handler's arms and be pointed in a direction, supplied with goods & COACHED. somewhere that happened, just like the middle east guys get snatched up & play out their handler's fantasies of killing lots of people for some cause or "jihad" too. young males make pretty good programmable killers it seems no matter what country and nearly no matter what cause. too bad this guy didn't get laid by a girl instead as a way to work out his frustrations. I am sure in some way his piss poor ability to deal in society made him happy to just kill innocent people instead. . |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 19598372 United States 07/22/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Switchblade ask an occupier, and last I checked in our countries of residence descent is a civil liberty. . Canada tore down the last Occupy camp back in January. . Sure did, as was my point in the other thread if you remember. I think if I remember right it had something to do with Illegaly taking residence in a public park without a permit or some crap like that. Sanitation was a serious concern though. As far as I am concerned the City/Cities were within their right to evict the occupyers from the parks. It's still their right to protest though. switchblade, those were public parks and they were involved in public meetings. That's clearly protected by Sect. 2(c) of your Canadian Charter of Rights & Freedoms! . |
Xerxes User ID: 20059352 United States 07/22/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev . He was "turned" by the Occupied movement last fall. He probably didn't have time to write manifesto, but there's going to be some damning information on his recovered laptop. . ways of learning the signs to someone who is mentally unstable That's part of the problem here. He was so distant that even if you knew the signs it would be hard to identify him because it sounds like he wasn't involved in anyone else's life. It doesn't sound like he was close to his own family. There should have been some indication to them that something was wrong. So maybe making programs more accessible or targeted to loners? Or programs targeted to uninvolved parents demonstrating the importance of being involved and interested in their children's lives. Of course, I guess his murders demonstrated that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11696497 United States 07/22/2012 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But MSM said he was a tea partier... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748204 Kind of reminds you of the Arizona shooting which was first attributed to a tea partier and turns out OWS. Thank you MSM for your fair and balanced coverage!!!! Use your brain.... These are 2 different people... One has curly hair and the other has straight hair.... The eyebrows are different colors too.... Light brown as opposed to dark.... Most of you would make very shitty detectives! ^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ 96% accuracy OP?? You're right!!! ...96% of the sheeple will believe it |
Switchblade User ID: 17824583 Canada 07/22/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Switchblade ask an occupier, and last I checked in our countries of residence descent is a civil liberty. . Canada tore down the last Occupy camp back in January. . Sure did, as was my point in the other thread if you remember. I think if I remember right it had something to do with Illegaly taking residence in a public park without a permit or some crap like that. Sanitation was a serious concern though. As far as I am concerned the City/Cities were within their right to evict the occupyers from the parks. It's still their right to protest though. switchblade, those were public parks and they were involved in public meetings. That's clearly protected by Sect. 2(c) of your Canadian Charter of Rights & Freedoms! . Yes but as I said Sanitation was the concern, but 2c is regarding peaceful assembly, and yes it defied the charter. but the fact is fact. there was a lot of miss-justice going on regardless of the side. There were violent demonstrators mixing in with the peaceful, The camps reaked of shit Access to Sanitation is a right over here as well, by the point they got rid of our camps Occupy had degraded to the state that it was nothing more than a group of people shouting slogans from a park they were squatting. It is important to note that I didn't say that the Charter says they were within their rights to evict the occupyers, I said "As far as I am concerned they were..." This does not mean that I feel that their right weren't infringed slightly, I just feel it was time. Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
jadksn User ID: 18789637 United States 07/22/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Borat, You are still pushing this? Basing your statements on the Examiner of all publications? Quoting: Switchblade Pathetic. Furthermore as I stated in your last thread about this shit. Him being OWS doesn't make a difference, all it means is that he at some point chose to resist the multi-National banking system that is tearing your countries apart. Crapping on squad cars and on the door steps of peoples' homes shows mental illness. Living in filth, tolerating numerous rapes, theft, spreading disease, squatting on public property..... Yeah, it makes a difference. It goes to show the mental state (mental illness) of this fuck. Are you not tired of the multinational bankers crapping on your front doorstep every day? Or the DHS and UN squatting on American territory? This is relatively minor of what is to come. It might be 10 years, it might be 100, but someone is going to rise up and give these snakes their deserved justice, and I won't be saddened one bit. I think your complacent and sycophant behavior is a sign of mental behavior. You're being raped on a daily basis but you've just forgotten how to care. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18897865 United States 07/22/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey guys is the reason your keep debating the occupy crap on this thread is because if you started a "lets debate the occupy movement" thread no one would give a crap? yeah I THOUGHT SO no one on this thread gives a crap about it either AND you guys still debating curly vs. non-curly hair are stupid, too. geez intellectual level of this thread has reached -40 IQ points |
Switchblade User ID: 17824583 Canada 07/22/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also as you are trying to break it out, 2c only applies to Federal parks, not Provincial or Municipal, on that level the province or the city is aloud to require permits for extended gatherings, and at that point it gets even more complicated. The largest of the Canadian Occupy camps was in Toronto, Toronto is a Corporation not a city. It acts entirely separately from a Federal or Provincial entity and as well acts against traditional municipal doctrine. because it is a Corporation parks are not guaranteed public spaces. On the Other side the Corporation of Windsor, allowed the Occupiers to remain as long as they wished, and advised them when it was necessary for them to move their tents due to Winterizing of sprinkler systems. Unity is the great goal toward which humanity moves irresistibly. But it becomes fatal, destructive of the intelligence, the dignity, the well-being of individuals and peoples whenever it is formed without regard to liberty, either by violent means or under the authority of any theological, metaphysical, political, or even economic idea. That patriotism which tends toward unity without regard to liberty is an evil patriotism, always disastrous to the popular and real interests of the country it claims to exalt and serve. Often, without wishing to be so, it is a friend of reaction – an enemy of the revolution, i.e., the emancipation of nations and men. -Mikhail Bakunin- |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 19598372 United States 07/22/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20287891 Oh wait... perhaps with bold letters Borat's hawk eyes will now notice this: A year ago, Anders Breivik shot 69 teenagers in a summer camp in Norway, and he was not an "Occupy black bloc", but a right- wing extremist, with purported ties to the English Defense League. . Both despicable, inhuman acts worthy of condemnation by everyone. The only difference, fool, is that the Occupy movement really approves of Holmes' terror act, because it strikes at the Capitalists by scaring away consumer "sheep" that support the Entertainment industry and other economic sectors. When WB releases their low box office numbers following this terrorism act, Black Bloc Occupiers will see the validity of the revolutionary statement: "If you want to make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs." That's why the Occupy movement is now the enemy to all who the movement sees as "sheep". . |