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Mary, the Mother of the Son of God: Why do some Christian Sects discount the Blessed Mother?

 
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Mary was chosen by God as vessel to bring life in human form to the Son of God.
Mary the choice of the Almighty was His one and only on Earth considered throughout time to bring forth the Christ child to enlighten all of mankind. She was responsible the carry, give birth, raise and protect the Son of God the ultimate job. Consider this, how many of you here on Earth with your present spirituality would take on this task? Think before you answer, because this is Son the God and a soul near perfection is needed. Not one of us could truly step into Her shoes, because even you know your imperfect soul cannot mingle with God!
Respect for you’re mother as the one who brought life to you through the design of God is common place among the people of Earth. So if Jesus respects her why can’t you as a Christian outside of the Catholics?
There is a lot of controversy surrounding the Mother of Jesus, Mary among Christian churches of the West. Mary the mother of God who incarnated on Earth thru His Son Jesus Christ was chosen above all others in human form to carry the spirit of God in human form. It was the Almighty who made this choice with all the wisdom of the universe and let no man put this decision asunder, “For I am your God Almighty”. Mankind has no right to decide whom homage is to be given to. If you were president of a major Earth power would you not respect opinions of your mother and consider advice from her? Mary is special in God’s and Jesus’s eyes and is considered the Mother of Earth. Having lived here in physical form and raised, protected & taught the young Christ, She now intercedes for all children of Earth as her Mother during our time of tribulation. God’s wrath against all evil is now taking form as destructive storms, earthquakes and other calamities, which many of the innocent shall be swept away as martyrs. Would it not be better to ask the Mother, Mary thru prayers to approach God and His Son to lessen the wrath, pain and judgment about to befall this world and its inhabitants during its transformation?
Thru the grace of Mary, the Almighty has extended the time allotted to Earth to reach its spiritual decision. All in the know see the pole shift as one of survival of the physical body where those with information and money are suppose to survive, but this is not God’s plan. Choices are going to be presented to mankind as events will dictate a move to either light or darkness with stagnation or those on the fence looked upon as needing further lessons thus, calamities shall remove most.
As prophesized it is Mary who crushes the head of satan (the antichrist) and his human counter parts.
There will be a sign for all to see call it planting a seed several years from now, the image of the Mother of God, pregnant while carrying the child Jesus will appear in an image where the Moon resides at her feet for the entire world to see in the night heavens. This will be no sophisticated parlor trick involving holographic lasers to trick the world. For there will be many looking for guidance and countless false prophets willing to take advantage of the sorrow of mankind and lead astray the masses.
The right choice is made because it comes from the heart and not a promise of a definitive reward. When the words come from those whom preach about the after life, many lead to the reward in heaven and this is true, but this approach may miss the point. It is not the man who behaves only to please the Almighty, because he fears the alternative, Hell. This is only making the first step, but is better than none. The choices man makes has to come from his soul and he must live the majority of his life by this doctrine because this is his way and not done for a promise of a reward.
Some claim the path to an extraordinary life begins with studding the Bible and applying its truth thru obedience. Again some may miss the lesson; the Bible does give insight to how one should live one’s life, for it is God’s word. The difference comes when one lives it due his convictions learned from life. This is where the spiritual part of the human excels.
Some say like a pebble you can affect another’s life and this is true, but it is one thing to preach in name of God as long as others agree. What happens when you forge that path with no one at your side but God, will you persevere?
During the times of tribulation, prayer will be the only answer as possessions are destroyed and lives lost. Those that honor the Mother of God with some those prayers shall have unselfish requests presented to the Almighty who will hear all the cries of His children on Earth.
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Mary is not "the mother of God" she was the mother of the "son of man"-Jesus' the part of Jesus that is human. Mary is not divine (Romans 3:23 says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God) Mary included. Mary and Joesph had sex,Luke says that after Gabriel visited Joeseph that he took her in to be his wife and knew her not UNTILL Jesus was born (implying that they had sex) Jesus had brothers with Mary as the mother of them. The Apostle James was his "half" brother. I Timothy 2:5 says that there is one mediator between God and man the man Christ Jesus. Mary as chosen as she was she not be prayed to,worshiped,venerated in any way shape or form. Honored above women? Yes. Worshiped and deified (made like God) NO.
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Thank you Grant, it is always beyond my comprehension why christians are so anti Mary.
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Are you one to proclaim what He wants? You are man interpreting your environment as one of His creations. He states that Mary will crush the head of satan in Revelations and nowhere in the Bible does it say not pray to Mary. Did she not send down a warning thru the 3rd secret of Fatima of the end times, which has been held back by the Church? You will all the help you can get, do not try and diminish an integral part of the transformation.

By the way I did say the Son of God, which is one and the same as the Almighty.
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Where's Planet X Grant? Remember how you were certain it would be here in 2003? Kind of blows a hole in your credibility.

Your latest religious rants are pathetic.
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"Are you one to proclaim what He wants? "

This from the idiot hypocrite Grant, who claims to be the voice of God!
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Que is another one of the legion of catholic-haters.

It is best not to listen to them. They continually lie and say catholics worship Mary, which we don't.

They treat Mary as though she were a UPS box which held Jesus, and once Jesus was born, it's OK to throw the carton away.
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Christianity is just another cult of ignorance; only morons believe in it.
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wthread dumbass
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Your latest religious rants are pathetic.

Really then why are you here!
Do you think the public is that mindless that they can not access a situation by themselves? Of course not they can, that is why you are here to splinter and stop a unification of mankind. What is patetic is your outdated CIA techniques of mind control. Get a life before a natural disaster takes it.
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"Really then why are you here!
Do you think the public is that mindless that they can not access a situation by themselves? Of course not they can, that is why you are here to splinter and stop a unification of mankind. What is patetic is your outdated CIA techniques of mind control. Get a life before a natural disaster takes it."

I'm here because I feel like it. I see you still haven't learned to quote people clearly either. Your predictions of disaster are as empty and dumb now as they were when you made them years ago.

The public is obviously not mindless enough to believe your garbage Grant, and your desperation is clearly evident from your frequent claim to be speaking for god.

The fact that you assume anyone who disagrees with you to be working for the CIA is only evidence of your paranoia.

Remember, the 'debunkers' have always been 100% correct when it comes to Planet X and all of Grant's claims.
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Military chaplains told to shy from Jesus
By Julia Duin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
December 21, 2005


To pray -- or not to pray -- in Jesus' name is the question plaguing an increasing number of U.S. military chaplains, one of whom began a multiday hunger strike outside the White House yesterday.
"I am a Navy chaplain being fired because I pray in Jesus' name," said Navy Lt. Gordon Klingenschmitt, who will be holding 6 p.m. prayer vigils daily in Lafayette Park.
The hunger strike is intended to persuade President Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray according to their individual faith traditions. The American Center for Law and Justice has gathered 173,000 signatures on a petition seeking an executive order.
Seventy-three members of Congress have joined the request, saying in an Oct. 25 letter to the president, "In all branches of the military, it is becoming increasingly difficult for Christian chaplains to use the name of Jesus when praying."
About 80 percent of U.S. troops are Christian, the legislators wrote, adding that military "censorship" of chaplains' prayers disenfranchises "hundreds of thousands of Christian soldiers in the military who look to their chaplains for comfort, inspiration and support."
Official military policy allows any sort of prayer, but Lt. Klingenschmitt says that in reality, evangelical Protestant prayers are censored. He cites his training at the Navy Chaplains School in Newport, R.I., where "they have clipboards and evaluators who evaluate your prayers, and they praise you if you pray just to God," he said. "But if you pray in Jesus' name, they counsel you."
Muslim, Jewish and Roman Catholic chaplains are likewise told not to pray in the name of Allah, in Hebrew or in the name of the Trinity, he added.
But the Rev. Billy Baugham, executive director of the Greenville, S.C.-based International Conference of Evangelical Chaplain Endorsers, says restrictions on other religious expressions have "yet to be tested."
"No Islamic chaplain has been refused to pray in the name of Allah, as far as we know. Neither has a rabbi been rebuked for making references to Hanukkah, and no Catholic priest has been rebuked for referring to the Blessed Virgin Mary."
The Navy allows chaplains to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Allah or any other deity during chapel services, spokeswoman Lt. Erin Bailey said.
At other public events, "Navy chaplains are encouraged to be sensitive to the needs of all those present," she said, "and may decline an invitation to pray if not able to do so for conscience reasons."
Lt. Klingenschmitt has not been formally punished, she added, and there
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It's a sad sad and selfish world we live in.

No tolerance for one another.

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"So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts
Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up"


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Mary is a whore. I've given it to her in the ass lots of times. I gave it to jesus in the ass a few times too.
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We consider her a lucky woman, indeed to have been given the privilege of giving birth to the Son of God.

However, we do not elevate her above any other human being.

Non-catholics do not pray for Mary, do not expect her to have any ability to hear prayers, nor do we depend upon her to help Jesus to be our Advocate before the Father.
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Christians are not to make Mary into an idol and goddess.
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Are you one to proclaim what He wants? You are man interpreting your environment as one of His creations. He states that Mary will crush the head of satan in Revelations and nowhere in the Bible does it say not pray to Mary.
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Grant, where is this stated?
That Mary will do this.
It doesn't.

And I saw an angel come down from
heaven, having the key of the bottomless
pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old
serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit,
and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations
no more, till the thousand years
should be fulfilled: and after that he
must be loosed a little season.
Rev. 20:1-3

And when the thousand years are
expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,And shall go out to
deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and
Magog, to gather them together to
battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
And they went up on the breadth of the
earth, and compassed the camp
of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of
heaven, and devoured them.And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast and the false prophet
[are], and shall be tormented day and
night for ever and ever.
Rev. 20:7-10
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"By the way I did say the Son of God, which is one and the same as the Almighty"
By which you utterly prove you haven't got a clue.
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Not to mention you thereby earn for yourself responsibility for any Jew, who, knowing such a claim is impossible, thereby rejects the Son.
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It's the Satanic child molesters that have upset most people, evn those who were brought up in the evil thing do not want ot be associated with demons hiding in black robes, raping little boys, and some girls, but demons prefer the perverted arts. The church has the largest collection of male homosexual pornography in the whole world, as stated in 1959 edition of True Magazine, a well known mens journal that was around for many years. Check the facts before commenting about these criminals who ruin thousands of childrens lives, each and every year they have done this for over 1,000 years thats damn reason there are so many disturbed people out on the streets.
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"Remember, the 'debunkers' have always been 100% correct when it comes to Planet X and all of Grant's claims."


Uhh, actually they have been wrong on about everything except the date related info.

Remember, it was the debunkers who were saying "everything was normal" with the weather in 2003 and then only changed this year. And now we have more earthquakes and way more volcanos popping off and they still deny this.

So, they've been more wrong then right on just about everything.
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{Uhh, actually they have been wrong on about everything except the date related info.}

Not from where I sit. Regular science predicted increased weather effects from global warming in the eighties, hence this year in hurricanes. It's been shown numerous times that EQs and volcanoes and falling meteors remain about par this year. The Sun has supposed to have increased in tempearture by some absurd amount, and yet we're having winter. Grant and Nancy both continue to claim Earth is halted in its orbit, yet Winter Constellations are right on cue.

You woo^2's have very selective memories. Which is how Grant and Lieder play you so well, and you come back begging for more, over and over, again and again. Pathetic.

We'll be seeing you in 2007 and beyond, I expect, still hanging on Grant and Nancy, still waiting for a disaster that stubbornly refuses to materialize (PX).
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it's probably because of what jesus said to mary when he was on the cross

i think the whole point was to place your salvation in the sacrifice and not in the vessel that brought the sacrifice into this world
Just one puzzle piece, of the jigsaw whole.
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I agree with Que and Grant. Mary was a good women who was chosen by God to bear his Son into the World. She never asked to be worshipped by man. She should be recognized for her plan in God's great plan.
Who knows what the truth is???
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Grant,

Perhaps humanity will start having a more reverent view of God/Jesus/Mary/Heaven once the earthquakes occur around Christmas. Only a few days left.
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the demon queen of heaven worshipped as mary by the rcc, is a counterfeit of Mary of the scriptures. Neither is she co-redemtrix(that is able to intercede for those who pray to her), immaculately concieved(born sinless), an eternal virgin(she had other children) and she was not translated to heaven alive, these are all lies that go against scripture.
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Keeping the Word

27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
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NIV says

27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."

28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."
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"We'll be seeing you in 2007 and beyond, I expect, still hanging on Grant and Nancy, still waiting for a disaster that stubbornly refuses to materialize (PX)."
So Grant and Nancy are sort of similar? I am not familiar with Grant, but it sure didn't take long to figure out that he is a hypocritical lunatic.
I guess he is like Nancy, then, huh?
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"I agree with Que and Grant. "Well, see, that's how the scam works.Anyone who is reasonable can easily see that Mary was a wonderful woman.But, the next stage, where she becomes the Queen of Heaven is evil, and indisputably so.Therein lies the problem.

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