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James Holmes: What Happened To Change This Nice Kid Into A Mass Murderer?

 
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James Holmes: What Happened To Change This Nice Kid Into A Mass Murderer?
There was a video released today of James Holmes at the age of 18 at Science Camp. He was a normal kid. Supposedly he was a nice guy at UCRiverside. What happened in Denver?

Every parent that reads this and thinks they have a great kid, like I do, should be very, very afraid...

He went from saying, in this video that "his dream is to own a SLURPIE machine" to becoming a mass murderer.

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I hope in the next few weeks we are able to find out what happened to him. Whether it was drugs, or political radicalism gone to an extreme, or long periods of depression and negative thinking until he finally blew up? I would like to know.
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I hope in the next few weeks we are able to find out what happened to him. Whether it was drugs, or political radicalism gone to an extreme, or long periods of depression and negative thinking until he finally blew up? I would like to know.
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Me too! In the video he seems like the kind of kid most parents dream of raising. In less I have reason to learn differently, his parents seem like nice people. I can't help but feel sorry for them!
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MKukltra?
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OP is a mentally deranged fool, pushing the failed script on the public.
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MKukltra?
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Makes me wonder. He didn't change until he went to school in Denver. There are all kinds of rumors about what goes on in that particular medical school..I wonder if the pressure to excel there led him into drugs or if he got involved with the wrong people???

Was he an innocent patsy for some organization? To many questions and not any answers.
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He was one of six recipients of a Neuroscience Training Grant from the National Institutes of Health, which funds pre-thesis Ph.D. students in the neuroscience program at the nschutz Medical Campus.

People in professions of studying the human brain and disorders seem to snap more than the regular population as well.
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He was one of six recipients of a Neuroscience Training Grant from the National Institutes of Health, which funds pre-thesis Ph.D. students in the neuroscience program at the nschutz Medical Campus.

People in professions of studying the human brain and disorders seem to snap more than the regular population as well.
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True...reminds me of the saying, "Intelligence borders on insanity"
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A California woman who identified herself as the mother of James Holmes, the 24-year-old man federal authorities said is the suspect in a mass shooting in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater, told ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, saying, "You have the right person."

The woman, contacted at her home in San Diego, spoke briefly with ABC News and immediately expressed concern her son may be involved in the shooting death of at least 12 people overnight.

"You have the right person," she said, apparently speaking on gut instinct. "I need to call the police... I need to fly out to Colorado."
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

The mother knew something was going on so she had extensive recent contact with him or something has been going on with him for some time.
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He wasn't in Denver to that long. I think the snap started before but then but grew. I think he went off meds. and someone at the college noticed, reported him, the college did a health/mental review ( lesson learned from VT) and asked him to withdraw. That was @ a monthe before this happened.
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He wasn't in Denver to that long. I think the snap started before but then but grew. I think he went off meds. and someone at the college noticed, reported him, the college did a health/mental review ( lesson learned from VT) and asked him to withdraw. That was @ a monthe before this happened.
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I don't know if he went off meds or possibly ON them.
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Liberal leftwing professors.
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Liberal leftwing professors.
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Having been there myself, I have to agree! But I think it's much worse now..
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I think it may have been those ideas of subjective experience and temporal allusion floating around in his head.
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I think it may have been those ideas of subjective experience and temporal allusion floating around in his head.
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Maybe he was too smart and maybe he began to know too much??? That sort of thing seems to intimidate those that seek to control..
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Liberal leftwing professors.
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Having been there myself, I have to agree! But I think it's much worse now..
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We haven't heard anything from the college. I would love to hear the MSM asking if he withdrew or he was asked to leave and if he was know in their health services. I am pretty sure someone there noticed him being "different". We already know that his mother knew.
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I think it may have been those ideas of subjective experience and temporal allusion floating around in his head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14181922

Maybe he was too smart and maybe he began to know too much??? That sort of thing seems to intimidate those that seek to control..
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


That could very well be.
Or perhaps he was not smart enough and the pressure got to him.
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He graduated from Riverside with top honors according to the Dean. He went from that to where he is today in one year!!
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PATSY. PATSY. PATSY. PATSY. PATSY.
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PATSY. PATSY. PATSY. PATSY. PATSY.
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Seems like it doesn't it?
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Check out the photo with the Dyed Hair "holmes" and compare it to the College ID "Holmes: Not the same person!
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Check out the photo with the Dyed Hair "holmes" and compare it to the College ID "Holmes: Not the same person!
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It does seem like a different person. Will be interesting to see which one of the two shows up in court on Monday.
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He graduated from Riverside with top honors according to the Dean. He went from that to where he is today in one year!!
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Two years. He graduated in 2010, tried to find a lab job and couldn't, so worked in a McDonald's and applied to graduate school.
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Check out the photo with the Dyed Hair "holmes" and compare it to the College ID "Holmes: Not the same person!
 Quoting: buggy Chimwit 7206780


It does seem like a different person. Will be interesting to see which one of the two shows up in court on Monday.
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It will be interesting to see if he has a hood covering his head. Based on that post from someone in the know on here, which said that he slit his mouth to look more like the Joker's, he might have a hood on. That also could explain why his face was covered in a towel when they took him in.
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I wonder if he decided, if they kicked him out, to make his mark on science by becoming a crazy person they could study. To decide that, of course, one would already have to be going off the deep end.
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He obviously wanted to stay alive since he didn't fight the police. So now he gets to be a research subject.
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James Eagen Holmes was a brilliant diviant just like Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski, better known as the "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski. Dr. Kaczynski serving a life sentence Born May 22, 1942 (age 70) Chicago, Illinois.
Alias(es) The Unabomber. Status Incarcerated at ADX Florence,[1] #04475–046

Occupation : Former assistant professor of mathematics.
Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski also known as the "Unabomber", is an American mathematician, social critic, and Neo-Luddite[2] who engaged in a mail bombing campaign that spanned nearly 20 years, killing three people and injuring 23 others. From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs to targets including universities and airlines,


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Smart people are sometimes CRAZY people
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I forgot the important part..

He also participated in a multiple-year personality study conducted by Dr. Henry Murray, an expert on stress interviews.[12]

Students in Murray's study were told they would be debating personal philosophy with a fellow student.[13] Instead they

were subjected to a "purposely brutalizing psychological experiment"[13] stress test, which was an extremely stressful, personal, and prolonged psychological attack. During the test, students were taken into a room, strapped into a chair and connected to electrodes that monitored their physiological reactions, while facing bright lights and a two-way mirror.

Each student had previously written an essay detailing their personal beliefs and aspirations: the essays were turned over to an anonymous attorney, who would enter the room and individually belittle each strapped-down student based in part on the disclosures they had made. This was filmed, and students' expressions of impotent rage were played back to them several times later in the study. According to author Alston Chase, Kaczynski's records from that period suggest he was emotionally stable when the study began. Kaczynski's lawyers attributed some of his emotional instability and dislike of mind control to his participation in this study.[13][14] Indeed, some have suggested that this experience may have been instrumental in Kaczynski's future actions
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he was a sick puppy just like Ted Kazinski the unabomer
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The gun jammed. He was dressed for mortal combat and planned on being the ultimate mass murderer. Jammed gun killed his agenda.
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I hope in the next few weeks we are able to find out what happened to him. Whether it was drugs, or political radicalism gone to an extreme, or long periods of depression and negative thinking until he finally blew up? I would like to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


Or if he like Oswald was an innocent patsy being blamed for a crime he didn't commit?

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