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Hand Counted Paper Ballots Announced Out Loud and Video Taped in Every Precinct - Our Best Hope for the Future!

 
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I think that all voters should be at one place in their precinct at the Same time. Universal time. Say by 6 pm Universal time. Local football field or whatever can contain the group.

Everyone who enters the area must provide voter card and picture ID. Early arrivals take a seat until the entrance cut off time. At the appointed time , Voters are asked to go to the section for their candidate. As the voter files out. He is given a purple ink pad for his finger like third world dictator countries to mark when a voter has voted. He is video taped as he goes through. The people are counted as they file by. No one is re-admitted. No one drives to another precinct. No dead people vote.

Sorry such drastic measures have to be made. But.. convenience led to fraud. But I think we would have an honest election.
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11/08/2012 07:56 PM
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It's not the votes that count. It's who counts the votes.
Josef Stalin

Our current voting system is gravely flawed with electronic vote cheating, and centralized tabulation subject to hacking.

Until any vote goes for tabulation, it must be hand counted, read out loud and video taped at every precinct, county, and State. Any centrally tabulated vote must be verified at every location.

Anything less will give us continuing corruption, submission to corporate money, and theft of private property. Just because it is "official by government," and so called approved by your currently compromised voting franchise, it is not necessarily good or right.

It is either government of the people, by the people, and for the people or it is nothing.
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Well written. I concur.
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11/08/2012 07:57 PM

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"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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11/08/2012 08:03 PM

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NO, shill!

The answer is not hand-counted ballots... it's ZERO ballots.

ZERO election.

Zero government.

If there were no government, the weak minded such as yourself would be cut off from the fucking people. Idiots like you that need a government to tell them what they can and cannot do are the ones holding the rest of us back.
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11/08/2012 08:11 PM

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It's not the votes that count. It's who counts the votes.
Josef Stalin

Our current voting system is gravely flawed with electronic vote cheating, and centralized tabulation subject to hacking.

Until any vote goes for tabulation, it must be hand counted, read out loud and video taped at every precinct, county, and State. Any centrally tabulated vote must be verified at every location.

Anything less will give us continuing corruption, submission to corporate money, and theft of private property. Just because it is "official by government," and so called approved by your currently compromised voting franchise, it is not necessarily good or right.

It is either government of the people, by the people, and for the people or it is nothing.
 Quoting: SpaceCommand


I agree , but we also need a way to verify the citizen that placed the vote , name,phone,and ss number on the ballot.
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11/08/2012 08:14 PM

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also non-party affiliates counting and watching the verification process.Like a jury duty.
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11/08/2012 08:27 PM
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It's not the votes that count. It's who counts the votes.
Josef Stalin

Our current voting system is gravely flawed with electronic vote cheating, and centralized tabulation subject to hacking.

Until any vote goes for tabulation, it must be hand counted, read out loud and video taped at every precinct, county, and State. Any centrally tabulated vote must be verified at every location.

Anything less will give us continuing corruption, submission to corporate money, and theft of private property. Just because it is "official by government," and so called approved by your currently compromised voting franchise, it is not necessarily good or right.

It is either government of the people, by the people, and for the people or it is nothing.
 Quoting: SpaceCommand



Don't forget about the illegal immigrant voting. That is disgusting!
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11/08/2012 08:34 PM
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the problem is not the voting system , the problem is the shitsucking filth given for choices on the ballots.
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11/08/2012 09:04 PM

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the problem is not the voting system , the problem is the shitsucking filth given for choices on the ballots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957572


Yes that is true, however the primaries have had half decent candidates who were cheated. So.....
"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."

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