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The Light Bulb Conspiracy - The Corporate Scam to Make Everything Break (So You Can Buy it Again!)

 
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i think they have built in timers to fail right before warranty expires. ive had computer parts fail either the day before or day of warranty expiration.
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If this were true wouldn't it make more sense to have the products fail AFTER the warranty expires, that way the manufacturer is not on the hook for the cost of the repair?

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Well, the new LED light bulbs may last for 20 years...
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3 of my $50 LED bulbs did not last a month. Good thing is that there is a 5 year warranty on them so I just keep replacing them when they die.
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Thats why I wont buy an American car anymore. They are all peices of shit, made out of plastic.

A Japanese made car will last 3 times longer.
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I think it's the whole "honor" thing in Japan that keeps companies there honest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713


Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
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My Dad passed a few years ago and I had to go back to Wisconsin to prepare the old farm (my grandfather's since 1939) to sell. I had to clean out the old barn that had both my dad's and grandfather's tools. TONS of old tools. Even from my great grandfather who was a blacksmith around the turn of the century.

EVERYTHING, every tool I found was heavy as hell and still in perfect condition. I kept most of the stuff. From old mechanics tools to farm and garden tools, blacksmith tools, railroad tools, old tool cabinets etc. That stuff is tough! It'll last forever and and that's how long I'm keeping it.
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Thats why I wont buy an American car anymore. They are all peices of shit, made out of plastic.

A Japanese made car will last 3 times longer.
 Quoting: chris999


I think it's the whole "honor" thing in Japan that keeps companies there honest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713


Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
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My mom has an old, old, old sewing machine manufactured in the USA in the early 1900's and the damn thing STILL WORKS!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713


Yep. American used to make the best products in the world.

But greed destroyed the American industrial capacity. Now all of the good shit is made overseas, by companies that actually understand that if you spend a little exra money to make a good product, people will by your product again.

The only place that makes more wothless shit that the US is China.
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Thats changing , internal consumption is forcing companies that don't make good products to the wall, consumers here vote with their cash, its the overseas companies (and greed too), that don't do quality control that encourage this
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I wouldn't call this a "conspiracy". It's a common business/production technique known more euphemistically as "quality". The business term of "quality" has little to do with how good/durable etc a product or service is - instead it's about producing something to a specification. Such a specification in the "consumer" market is generally very low to maximize profit and minimize material costs etc.

The popular solution is to 'boycott' the companies that produce low quality products/services however in today's competitive market that is often difficult or impossible due to limited incomes (cash flow based) that reward thrifty spending in addition to the dog-eat-dog world of business competition.

Whenever possible I favor more expensive but more durable products, especially if they are locally made. Over the years I have noticed that such products soon disappear from the shelves to be replaced by mediocre but higher selling items, so anecdotal evidence suggests to me that the public favor their pocket book over their conscious.
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very true, thanks for the explanation
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How can anyone say Toyota is high quality when their cars accelerate on their own among other various problems.

What's wrong with American cars?
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oops, I meant to quote.

Last Edited by chris999 on 07/22/2012 09:14 PM
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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This is why capitalism is killing the planet. Profits over everything else.
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5a DING DING DING we have a winner!!!! 5a

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Yeah... we are screwed... time to get a passport. I'm only 24 but I'm scared of the future.
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Thats why I wont buy an American car anymore. They are all peices of shit, made out of plastic.

A Japanese made car will last 3 times longer.
 Quoting: chris999


I think it's the whole "honor" thing in Japan that keeps companies there honest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713


Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.

Last Edited by chris999 on 07/22/2012 09:17 PM
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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acid much?

We discussed this in class in the 70's.


Some flashback.



I hear insert_whore_name_here is having a huge sale, now off with you consumer, pay those taxes we need more steel for your chains.
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Yup, this business practice is definitely being seen in videogaming consoles.

Xbox 360's 54% failure rate.
[link to consumerist.com]

[link to blog.seattlepi.com]
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i have an old xbox wireless controller and the battery is 2 times the weight of the newer battery,the old battery pack lasted about 2 years which is still taking the fukin piss if you ask me,well the neerw batteries have rufly about 1000 charges in it before it then goes fuked.

Why is it in this day and age we as people by which i mean the 99% get blamed for all the fuk ups in the world and enviroment when it those rich 1% cunts that sell us all this cheap made not too last shit.
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I think it's the whole "honor" thing in Japan that keeps companies there honest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713


Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
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How can anyone say Toyota is high quality when their cars accelerate on their own among other various problems.

What's wrong with American cars?
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didnt they investigate this and decide there was nothing wrong with the cars after all???
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Thats why I wont buy an American car anymore. They are all peices of shit, made out of plastic.

A Japanese made car will last 3 times longer.
 Quoting: chris999


Will it out last the half life of the radioactive shit from japan?
“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!

Make a regular practice of Miswak for verily it is the purification for the mouth and a means of the pleasure of the Lord. Wait! What?? Islam the oral jihads handbook pg 12.
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Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
 Quoting: FHL(C)


gavej
“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!

Make a regular practice of Miswak for verily it is the purification for the mouth and a means of the pleasure of the Lord. Wait! What?? Islam the oral jihads handbook pg 12.
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Edison's first light bulbs were forever.

But like other things where there is a profit to be made, they became disposable.

That's what was driving the economy after the industrial revolution. Industry, factories, processing plants...the beginning of our 'modern' age.
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The incandescent light bulbs were invented by British chemist Humphry Davy in 1809
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There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
 Quoting: FHL(C)


gavej
 Quoting: Innards_outward

lol, you yanks who are atheists, humanists, satanists, sophisticates and various other liberal mindset,ie- "i want to be in charge of my deviance" are going to see lots of stuff up close real soon, that you will never recover from personally as your own government has decided to render you down for payment on the debt that can never be repaid, have fun
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How many corporate interests does it take to screw up a lightbulb?
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This is why capitalism is killing the planet. Profits over everything else.
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Says the person who has never used something made in the Soviet Union.
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Honor? You mean like how they've handled Fukushima?

Japs should be committing seppaku in droves.
 Quoting: T-1000 18959534


There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
 Quoting: FHL(C)


I dont want to derail this thread I will wont comment after this... But, of course I dont belive in Zombies and virgins giving birth.

I believe in God the creator, but the rest of it is magical fairytale bullshit.

Religion is the most powerful form of propaganda control ever invented. I have studied the Bible for years, and all the evidence I have ever uncovered is that the Roman Catholic church was conceived as a way to to continue the Roman empire intact, even after it's military and political defeat. Constantine merged a bunch of Pagan religions together and called it Christianity. This was a form of control over his people. He even instucted that people pay 10% to their church, but the money was really just a Roman tax. Today, churched teach that tithing is a commandment from God. Who? Constantine?

Why do you think that Christians celebrate pagan Astrological holidays like the winter solstice and the spring equinox?.. excuse me, I meant to say Christmas and Easter? Why do you (symbolically) drink blood and eat flesh? Why do you believe in necromancy? ALL PAGAN.
I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei
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How can anyone say Toyota is high quality when their cars accelerate on their own among other various problems.

What's wrong with American cars?
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Unfortunately this "American" idea of planned obsolescence is spreading as our corporations turn multinational.
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i think they have built in timers to fail right before warranty expires. ive had computer parts fail either the day before or day of warranty expiration.
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ya my dads plasma t.v failed 15 days after the warranty was up.. fkn bullshit.
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Another thing i noticed is some of the furniture and tables we buy are just total junk/press board laminate. The quality of workmanship has nose dived severely.
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There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19710596


yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
 Quoting: FHL(C)


I dont want to derail this thread I will wont comment after this... But, of course I dont belive in Zombies and virgins giving birth.

I believe in God the creator, but the rest of it is magical fairytale bullshit.

Religion is the most powerful form of propaganda control ever invented. I have studied the Bible for years, and all the evidence I have ever uncovered is that the Roman Catholic church was conceived as a way to to continue the Roman empire intact, even after it's military and political defeat. Constantine merged a bunch of Pagan religions together and called it Christianity. This was a form of control over his people. He even instucted that people pay 10% to their church, but the money was really just a Roman tax. Today, churched teach that tithing is a commandment from God. Who? Constantine?

Why do you think that Christians celebrate pagan Astrological holidays like the winter solstice and the spring equinox?.. excuse me, I meant to say Christmas and Easter? Why do you (symbolically) drink blood and eat flesh? Why do you believe in necromancy? ALL PAGAN.
 Quoting: chris999


You take a lot for granted, why don't you use the adv search function, and see what i actually believe instead of lumping me in with said pagan institutions dressed as lamb?
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Ever wonder why newer products don’t seem to last very long…? Why were older products so durable and long lasting compared to the junk we’re sold these days? Are you tired of things falling apart and breaking down on you? Would you like to know why this is happening? Have a look at this documentary.

[link to undergrounddocumentaries.com]
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So! You ever heard of the terms, annual profit and business growth? The days when you used a car till the axle fell off are over. Annual turnover is the mantra. Get with the system, mate.
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apologies to OP for being of topic :)

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