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The Light Bulb Conspiracy - The Corporate Scam to Make Everything Break (So You Can Buy it Again!)

 
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reaserch and development is divided in 2!

the first group make a prototype as much as solid and thought as possible! Then they make it smaller and more easy to repair!

the first part does not look at how much it cost to make a unit!

The second part goal is to make it a cheapest as possible to obtain the lowest production cost possible!

This part also involve into making sure that when the product breaks, it becomes more complex and costly to repair a unit rather then buying a new one!



the biggest myth in capitalism is that we need to make stuff cheap! Which is false.
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The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
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remember those "ENERGY SAVER" new light bulbs which replaced the old filament type bulbs?

Initially they were giving it away by the cartons - NOW that the giveaway is over - it actually cost $5 for each.

AND the truth is these green bulbs are not so that GREEN because they contain Mercury. AND now they are going to the landfill. Even cleanup workers in UK won't touch or picked these up when they are broken.

It is a big environmental issue. Fcking B.S. energy saving GREEN bulbs
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There was a reason why they were handling Fukushima this way. and US may be the part of it.
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yep. TPTB want us to believe that the biggest peice of propaganda of all time THE BIBLE is real, and that Fukushima and turmoil in the middle east is a sign that the end is coming.

They want us to be terrified, and sit sit back and do nothing as they prepare for a UN world government... because the bible says that we cant stop it...

They have already used HAARP to kill most of the crops around the world to set up the 'famine', and next on the list is bio-weapons so that the plagues and diseases start.

Sadly, billions of people are going to die, and all of the Christians and jewish people are trained by their propaganda control booklet... I mean the Bible, that they are suppossed to sit back nd do nothing, because a messiah will come from the sky and save us.

It's such bullshit. The Illuminati has edited the Bible for hundreds of years to prepare for these times. They just had to wait until technology evolved enough to be able to carry out their plan.
 Quoting: chris999

You just don't want to acknowledge God as Lord(ie rightful owner of everything, including you, you want to be your own god, you are in for some shocking times, repentance will help, but you should read revelation to understand what happens that way, once the Anti-Christ and false prophet are positively identified., imo
 Quoting: FHL(C)


I dont want to derail this thread I will wont comment after this... But, of course I dont belive in Zombies and virgins giving birth.

I believe in God the creator, but the rest of it is magical fairytale bullshit.

Religion is the most powerful form of propaganda control ever invented. I have studied the Bible for years, and all the evidence I have ever uncovered is that the Roman Catholic church was conceived as a way to to continue the Roman empire intact, even after it's military and political defeat. Constantine merged a bunch of Pagan religions together and called it Christianity. This was a form of control over his people. He even instucted that people pay 10% to their church, but the money was really just a Roman tax. Today, churched teach that tithing is a commandment from God. Who? Constantine?

Why do you think that Christians celebrate pagan Astrological holidays like the winter solstice and the spring equinox?.. excuse me, I meant to say Christmas and Easter? Why do you (symbolically) drink blood and eat flesh? Why do you believe in necromancy? ALL PAGAN.
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Truth hf Pagan holidays have been renamed and sold to you christians under false pretenses.
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07/22/2012 10:07 PM
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Well, the new LED light bulbs may last for 20 years...
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Dont believe the hyperbole. The newest LEDs haven't been around long enough to prove that they will last 20 years.
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I think with today's population it is almost required to build in high failure rates in products to keep people employed.
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Ever wonder why newer products don’t seem to last very long…? Why were older products so durable and long lasting compared to the junk we’re sold these days? Are you tired of things falling apart and breaking down on you? Would you like to know why this is happening? Have a look at this documentary.

[link to undergrounddocumentaries.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8044829


Two light bulbs went out for me this week. Have searched for 100 watt "Reveal" bulbs. All I see are the curly bulbs when I've shopped. I know for fact that they are not good...too dim.
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Yup, this business practice is definitely being seen in videogaming consoles.

Xbox 360's 54% failure rate.
[link to consumerist.com]

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I have seen and read all about that, the red ring of death and other problems are built right into them I swear.
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Don't forget batteries. Biggest scam of all them.
Military uses cells that last many years under heavy load.
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Great thread!!! Thanks OP!

Here's another video and post about this subject... from a fellow permaculture nerd.

YouTube link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Post link: [link to www.richsoil.com]
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That's a great point, Here is an example, Uniden. In the late 80's I bought my parents a Uniden cordless phone which my dad still uses in 2012. In the 90's they obviously decided that their product was too good quality wise. Ever since, every time I buy a Uniden cordless, they seem to die in 2-3 years.
 Quoting: Squonk


I got told after a telephone technician was called out for the 3rd time in about 3 years that the cheap cordless phones are buggering up the line and he specifically asked me if I had a Uniden which I did.

Even though it said it had appropriate approval etc.

The thing is this cheap quality crap doesn't just cost to replace but you can't sue for the other damage it does, like the cost of fixing my phone line for instance.
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Another thing i noticed is some of the furniture and tables we buy are just total junk/press board laminate. The quality of workmanship has nose dived severely.
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It's not just American. Ikea has the worst junk. I guess people like buying a new living room every 3 or 4 years.
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there are several light bulbs around the country that have been burning 90+ years.

I kid you not.

it is still possible to make the same.
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Ever wonder why newer products don’t seem to last very long…? Why were older products so durable and long lasting compared to the junk we’re sold these days? Are you tired of things falling apart and breaking down on you? Would you like to know why this is happening? Have a look at this documentary.

[link to undergrounddocumentaries.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8044829


Seems to me my newer cars last longer and break down much less now then they did in the 1970s.
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This is nothing new. I've replaced so many capacitors over the years to keep equipment going I'm soldered out.


These damn caps last 1-2 years on computers and other electronics. They are engineered to fail so you have to buy all over again. It pisses me off that people are getting ripped off by this shit. I've repaired computers, tv's, dvd players, laptops, network switches, lawn sprinkler systems, video cards are the worst, you name it. If it has capacitors in it and it was cheap, it will fail within 3 years.


You can see the caps that bulge or leak. Just replace them and keep using the equipment. Nothing wrong with it, just some asshole that designed it to fail so you have to buy new.

[link to www.mikerepairscomputers.com]


Too bad people just throw shit out. It can be fixed...most capacitors cost under a 1.00.
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This is nothing new. I've replaced so many capacitors over the years to keep equipment going I'm soldered out.


These damn caps last 1-2 years on computers and other electronics. They are engineered to fail so you have to buy all over again. It pisses me off that people are getting ripped off by this shit. I've repaired computers, tv's, dvd players, laptops, network switches, lawn sprinkler systems, video cards are the worst, you name it. If it has capacitors in it and it was cheap, it will fail within 3 years.


You can see the caps that bulge or leak. Just replace them and keep using the equipment. Nothing wrong with it, just some asshole that designed it to fail so you have to buy new.

[link to www.mikerepairscomputers.com]


Too bad people just throw shit out. It can be fixed...most capacitors cost under a 1.00.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


try to stay away from Asus boards! they are pos now!

all made by ECF elite group!

oh and if your getting a motherboard, put at least 150$ on it. Minimum. Stay away from short edition of Full atx boards. All the VM, SE and MX it's all crud.

Try getting your hand on polymere capacitors! they are not cheap but they won't break!

Also if your planning on buying a brand new computer. i would stay away from intel.

their lastest sandybridge chips have killswitches on board!

so much for privacy.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Great thread!!! Thanks OP!

Here's another video and post about this subject... from a fellow permaculture nerd.

YouTube link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Post link: [link to www.richsoil.com]
 Quoting: GFX guy


thnks. that was a great video.

no wonder they will ban the old bulbs next year
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This is so commonly accepted that I doubted it would ever come up for debate on a conspiracy forum. This is just one of the benefits of accepting the delusion of capitalism, that you, the customer, can determine the value of something apart from what the value of that thing can be objectively measured as. Alas, don't you wish we only profited from the value we provided? The world would make a whole lot of sense then and there would be less failed products sitting in the junkyard.
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Thats why I wont buy an American car anymore. They are all peices of shit, made out of plastic.

A Japanese made car will last 3 times longer.
 Quoting: chris999


I used to work in a plant that made parts for both Dodge and Toyota. The Dodge parts were flimsy and were even allowed to leave the factory with flack (small slivers of plastic leftover after the molding process) attached.

But the Toyota parts were a whole other ballgame. Sturdy, dashboard components filled with reinforcing material, ect. A rep from the company even came freq. to inspect the facility and process too. We were even asked to give more attention to those components.

I think it's the whole "honor" thing in Japan that keeps companies there honest.
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It's not honor, it's strictly business. Toyota knows that the dodge customers who are smart enough to move on to a new supplier after getting screwed by shit quality may indeed shop for a toyota next time.

Any myths about japanese honor evaporated with tepco and fukushima.
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The globalist conspiracy has been to deindustrialize the entire west.

GE Closes Last US Light Bulb Factory Moves To China

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Recently I had to call out repair people for my t.v., refrigerator, stove top and dishwasher. Yes I am sick of this shit. My older stuff never broke down. I am convinced this is done on purpose to make us buy new stuff.
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Edison's first light bulbs were forever.

But like other things where there is a profit to be made, they became disposable.

That's what was driving the economy after the industrial revolution. Industry, factories, processing plants...the beginning of our 'modern' age.
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the video says that edisons light bulbs could last as much as 1500 hours and that there was late a bulb produced by another co. that could last 2500 hours. finally it mentions a bulb that was made in shelby ohio that has been burning nonstop in a fire station in liverpool ca. since 1901. the secret of the filament died with the inventor. so no, edison's light bulbs were not forever.
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Edison's first light bulbs were forever.

But like other things where there is a profit to be made, they became disposable.

That's what was driving the economy after the industrial revolution. Industry, factories, processing plants...the beginning of our 'modern' age.
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the video says that edisons light bulbs could last as much as 1500 hours and that there was late a bulb produced by another co. that could last 2500 hours. finally it mentions a bulb that was made in shelby ohio that has been burning nonstop in a fire station in liverpool ca. since 1901. the secret of the filament died with the inventor. so no, edison's light bulbs were not forever.
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In the early 70s, my grandmother had a functioning bulb from the 20s in a desk lamp that was used regularly.
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Totally tired, that's why i keep my second-hand smartphone from 2005 and i'd even by the same/similar if it breaks. Manufacturers these days don't deserve a cent.

Bought custom computer a year ago with "top" quality parts. Guess what? The PSU and the DVD-RW malfunctioned within the first 5-7 months. The new DVD-RW replacement did't even work a day, it was broke by default and i gave up (Had an old IDE drive from my own computer. Well it still works without any problems).
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Well, the new LED light bulbs may last for 20 years...
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Dont believe the hyperbole. The newest LEDs haven't been around long enough to prove that they will last 20 years.
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Well actually you can prove it.

I have a LED lighting factory here in China and everything is determined by the quality of the components you are selecting that will determine the final product quality.

We are testing the products in socalled aging tests. And these are quite accurate. High temps, low temps, humidity, exposure to sunlight, acidity etc etc all can quickly age a product where it can be easy to calculate the final lifetime expectancy.

Right now we can safely say our products last 50.000 hours and up. Which is around 16 years at 8 hours a day

People claiming 20 years are perhaps right too but only if you do not turn them actually on ;)

All honesty is of course to mention that lifetime expectancy is determined by a gamma of operational and environmental variable that are much diffrent in Alaska compared to Florida. And this goes for most any product.
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Also, bought a new refridgerator 2 years ago. And yes, it was broken from the beginning. And after that the same problem occured 2 more times.
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Totally tired, that's why i keep my second-hand smartphone from 2005 and i'd even by the same/similar if it breaks. Manufacturers these days don't deserve a cent.

Bought custom computer a year ago with "top" quality parts. Guess what? The PSU and the DVD-RW malfunctioned within the first 5-7 months. The new DVD-RW replacement did't even work a day, it was broke by default and i gave up (Had an old IDE drive from my own computer. Well it still works without any problems).
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top quality parts is cheap parts for rich people! they rich people traps!

the best parts are the mid range pricing! This way you don't get the cheapest crud and don't fall in the rich trap!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Totally tired, that's why i keep my second-hand smartphone from 2005 and i'd even by the same/similar if it breaks. Manufacturers these days don't deserve a cent.

Bought custom computer a year ago with "top" quality parts. Guess what? The PSU and the DVD-RW malfunctioned within the first 5-7 months. The new DVD-RW replacement did't even work a day, it was broke by default and i gave up (Had an old IDE drive from my own computer. Well it still works without any problems).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


top quality parts is cheap parts for rich people! they rich people traps!

the best parts are the mid range pricing! This way you don't get the cheapest crud and don't fall in the rich trap!
 Quoting: monsterrun


Yea but i wanted a fanless PSU and there are no mid-range fanless models. And the mid-range PSUs with a fan are too noisy and their fans usually don't last (Cooler master even put sleeve bearing fans, even in their "top" models, as far as i know. total peaces of crap).
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Totally tired, that's why i keep my second-hand smartphone from 2005 and i'd even by the same/similar if it breaks. Manufacturers these days don't deserve a cent.

Bought custom computer a year ago with "top" quality parts. Guess what? The PSU and the DVD-RW malfunctioned within the first 5-7 months. The new DVD-RW replacement did't even work a day, it was broke by default and i gave up (Had an old IDE drive from my own computer. Well it still works without any problems).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


Had an Iphone break, and the Apple Store took it back and gave me a new one. Great that they stand by the product, but Apple is double the price of other equivalent products.

And either way, you need a new IPhone in 2 years, because the battery goes bad and probably costs half as much as the new phone that has better technology.
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Totally tired, that's why i keep my second-hand smartphone from 2005 and i'd even by the same/similar if it breaks. Manufacturers these days don't deserve a cent.

Bought custom computer a year ago with "top" quality parts. Guess what? The PSU and the DVD-RW malfunctioned within the first 5-7 months. The new DVD-RW replacement did't even work a day, it was broke by default and i gave up (Had an old IDE drive from my own computer. Well it still works without any problems).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


Had an Iphone break, and the Apple Store took it back and gave me a new one. Great that they stand by the product, but Apple is double the price of other equivalent products.

And either way, you need a new IPhone in 2 years, because the battery goes bad and probably costs half as much as the new phone that has better technology.
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Yea not allowing you the rep;ace the battery on your own is another (One of many) insult. I'd never buy a phone which won't allow me to replace the battery.

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