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Seriously why does GLP hate California so much and want California to Fall into the Sea

have you ever driven along HWY 1 on the California Coast near Big sur.

Have you ever visited Yosemite and climbed Half Dome.

Have you ever driven across the Golden Gate bridge.

Have you ever gone hiking among redwood trees.

Have you ever gone to a California Beach with nice breeze and had a bonfire and drank some wine with friends.

Have you ever gone Skiing at black bear

Have you ever tasted California's organic produce




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it hates Texas even worse so don't feel bad
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Hell, I was born in the People's Republic, when it was still a free state.

Now all the libtards have it so screwed up, even the wet backs are heading back home.

Shit, I live in TX now and we do not get any slack from y'all.

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Dig deeper for the end is nigh.

On second thought, fuck digging, just find a sink hole!!!
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a formerly awesome place that's been completely pissed away
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i guess political ideology, hell,even the people i know who live in cali hate it too.
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.

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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
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Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.

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Re: Why does GLP hate California
What you listed are some of the reasons
I came here 16 yrs ago. It's just not
worth it anymore to watch this once
beautiful place fall so far into being
a 3rd world.

I'll miss the weather, beaches, etc.,

Oh, I'm in OC by the way.
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a formerly awesome place that's been completely pissed away
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how so? its still all here...
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What you listed are some of the reasons
I came here 16 yrs ago. It's just not
worth it anymore to watch this once
beautiful place fall so far into being
a 3rd world.

I'll miss the weather, beaches, etc.,

Oh, I'm in OC by the way.
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life happens...
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.
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My opinion doesn't count I'm a South Florida guy and moved to California 2 years ago. The way I look it at is that I'm willing to put up with the high rents because I loved the nature aspect of it, South Florida is not that much cheaper as far as real state . I'm pretty accepting and open minded (not gay) of other people so the political aspect of it does not affect me.
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the land itself is nice. It would be beautiful if not so full of squats, fags, reds and VC.
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.
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My opinion doesn't count I'm a South Florida guy and moved to California 2 years ago. The way I look it at is that I'm willing to put up with the high rents because I loved the nature aspect of it, South Florida is not that much cheaper as far as real state . I'm pretty accepting and open minded (not gay) of other people so the political aspect of it does not affect me.
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Where may I ask did you move to in CA? I was born and raised there until 4 yrs ago.l
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Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.
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My opinion doesn't count I'm a South Florida guy and moved to California 2 years ago. The way I look it at is that I'm willing to put up with the high rents because I loved the nature aspect of it, South Florida is not that much cheaper as far as real state . I'm pretty accepting and open minded (not gay) of other people so the political aspect of it does not affect me.
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Where may I ask did you move to in CA? I was born and raised there until 4 yrs ago.l
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NorCal and I feel right at home it's funny because people from outside the state do not understand how Norcal SouthCal are really different states. I've being all over the state and the south reminds me of South Florida too much . From the hot weather to the Materialistic people
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you're deep frying your own shit with road kill for your family's dinner.

you squished your last pack of generic cigarettes fucking your daughter.

no need to wonder. they couldn't afford a bus ticket here, much less a life. lmao
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I gather the majority of GLPers are conservatives.

California represents the opposite of the 2 evils.

Being a State with the majority of Libtards and not to mention home to the propaganda machine (Hollywood
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Seriously why does GLP hate California so much and want California to Fall into the Sea

have you ever driven along HWY 1 on the California Coast near Big sur.

Have you ever visited Yosemite and climbed Half Dome.

Have you ever driven across the Golden Gate bridge.

Have you ever gone hiking among redwood trees.

Have you ever gone to a California Beach with nice breeze and had a bonfire and drank some wine with friends.

Have you ever gone Skiing at black bear

Have you ever tasted California's organic produce





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I live in Malibu and its not the land we want to get rid of, its the goverment that thinks they own the land...its ours not theres!!!
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I live here and I personally love it! There is no place like Cali. I have done all those things you mentioned and it's truly a good time. Also there is really no where else that you can go surfing in the morning and snowboarding mid day. If you've ever been to Duke's there's a picture from the sky of the beach so beautiful and the mountains full of snow.
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Seriously why does GLP hate California so much and want California to Fall into the Sea

have you ever driven along HWY 1 on the California Coast near Big sur.

Have you ever visited Yosemite and climbed Half Dome.

Have you ever driven across the Golden Gate bridge.

Have you ever gone hiking among redwood trees.

Have you ever gone to a California Beach with nice breeze and had a bonfire and drank some wine with friends.

Have you ever gone Skiing at black bear

Have you ever tasted California's organic produce





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Sshhhh.

Forget it folks. Nothing to see. Move along. We're all suffering out here with endless earthquakes and Fukushima radiation and Nancy Pelosi. Our lives are a . Certainly not a place you'd want to live.

ohyeah
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Seriously why does GLP hate California so much and want California to Fall into the Sea

have you ever driven along HWY 1 on the California Coast near Big sur.

Have you ever visited Yosemite and climbed Half Dome.

Have you ever driven across the Golden Gate bridge.

Have you ever gone hiking among redwood trees.

Have you ever gone to a California Beach with nice breeze and had a bonfire and drank some wine with friends.

Have you ever gone Skiing at black bear

Have you ever tasted California's organic produce





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Sshhhh.

Forget it folks. Nothing to see. Move along. We're all suffering out here with endless earthquakes and Fukushima radiation and Nancy Pelosi. Our lives are a . Certainly not a place you'd want to live.
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constant source of pain and misery!
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Yes, Op. Cally should have a N/S (running E/W) border just north of maybe Santa Barbara? When I lived there, it seemed that most NOCAL denizens couldn't stand SOCAL folks. The only thing was, most SOCAL folks who were aware of this just didn't give a fuck. All the various foreign cultures were just into their own kind/culture and were totally oblivious of this fact, however, very astute as to the methods of securing handouts...

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Yes, Op. Cally should have a N/S border just north of maybe Santa Barbara. When I lived there, it seemed that most NOCAL denizens couldn't stand SOCAL folks. The only thing was, most SOCAL folks who were aware of this just didn't give a fuck. All the various foreign cultures were just into their own kind/culture and were totally oblivious of this fact, however, very astute as to the methods of securing handouts...
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agree!!! the problem is every yahoo that thinks he or she can get into the movies moves out here and stays...they find they can get into the movies but cost them $10 and they can only stay for a couple hours...Now where stuck with them
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the land itself is nice. It would be beautiful if not so full of squats, fags, reds and VC.
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just line up at the union mission downtown LA.

free soup and bread!!

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Please stop the OC nonsense. I was born in Newport Beach 44 years ago and I have first hand knowledge how California went into the crapper.

Orange county was a perfect place 35 years ago. Did you know there were orange trees there once? Great farm community until the out of stater's kept filing in and wanting their McMansions built in the farmlands.

Cost of housing skyrocketed from 1976 till now. It displaced all of us simple natives to NorCal. The flood from the south was steady and 4 families could afford a single house. So the politicians started giving away freebies to keep themselves in office.

I laugh when I hear a liberal politician grandstanding on the environment. Back in the day the would ignore all the farmers saying too many house in such a small space was not good. So, in their great wisdom shut down all the family owned orange groves with nice new environmental laws that made it impossible to grow oranges anymore.

I am a native and I cannot stand Cali. Ya, pretty sad to say but I keep trying to vote the liberal scum out of office but the way the lib's have made the districts it is all but impossible to vote the idiots out.
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Please stop the OC nonsense. I was born in Newport Beach 44 years ago and I have first hand knowledge how California went into the crapper.

Orange county was a perfect place 35 years ago. Did you know there were orange trees there once? Great farm community until the out of stater's kept filing in and wanting their McMansions built in the farmlands.

Cost of housing skyrocketed from 1976 till now. It displaced all of us simple natives to NorCal. The flood from the south was steady and 4 families could afford a single house. So the politicians started giving away freebies to keep themselves in office.

I laugh when I hear a liberal politician grandstanding on the environment. Back in the day the would ignore all the farmers saying too many house in such a small space was not good. So, in their great wisdom shut down all the family owned orange groves with nice new environmental laws that made it impossible to grow oranges anymore.

I am a native and I cannot stand Cali. Ya, pretty sad to say but I keep trying to vote the liberal scum out of office but the way the lib's have made the districts it is all but impossible to vote the idiots out.
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I think they are still small cities passed S.F. that you might find a good fit
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I live in Cali!!! "In Little Mexico" Central Cali to be exact...the trains dont run here anymore...I can truly say that our once great state has gone to the crapper! Im afraid to raise my kids here anymore (and I live in the boonies) but I am not even safe out here with all the home invasions and our cities are riddled with crime. Not to mention our corrupt police and politicians and if your white your the minority and discriminated against believe it or not. I could go on and on with where I live being in the top 10 in lists of bad things such as car thefts and human trafficking etc. So OP that is why people on here dont like Cali cause although some of the scenery is beautiful ...well everything else sucks!
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"Have you ever gone hiking among redwood trees."

No, but I banged my ex-wife among the redwood trees. Just around dusk as we were driving north, pulled off to the side of the road and hit that. Does that count?
Not intended to be a factual statement.
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.
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As an Oregonian I can tell you that your premise is correct. The reason that the property prices were lower here is because they were geared toward the income level of the "natives". When the Californicators came flooding across the border, they snapped up properties left and right. Trouble was, they were a migrating lot and saw nothing wrong with living in a place for 2 or 3 years and then moving somewhere else. This usually occurred after they had dumped thousands of dollars of "improvements" into the property, which jacked up the purchase price so high that only other Californians could afford them. Additionally, all the "improvements" increased the "assessed value" of neighboring properties so that then THEIR property taxes went up, even though there was no way that they could ever have sold for what the "assessed value" was (used to be a standing joke, "Wish I COULD sell it for what the Tax man says it's worth").

The "tree-huggers" killed our timber industry to save the "spotted Owl", and while we were still reeling from THAT they proceeded to kill our fishing industry. Not content with destroying the two biggest job producers in Oregon, they then proceeded to infiltrate our Government in order to turn everything Oregonian into California Part Deux. Now we have so many rules and regulations, thanks to the "progressives" that a person can't do anything with their own property, or even develop the property for the use that it was bought for originally. There are pot-holes in the roads which would swallow a VW Beetle, but yet the openly-gay mayor of Portland (who marched in support of the OWSers until they destroyed the parks where they squatted while wreaking hundreds of thousands of dollars-worth of destruction on surrounding buildings, homes, cars, etc.) puts money into bicycle paths. The politicians in Salem and Portland have no thought for the other 80 per cent of Oregon which is NOT represented, other than to keep jacking up our taxes to support their cockamamie ideas. We used to have a pretty good school system, but they have imported a series of California school administrators who have done nothing but destroy the curriculum, close schools and cram more and more kids into the ones they have favored to stay open and stock with rubber-stamping Marxist teachers, many of whom are from California too. After a few years of screwing up the schools the Administrator moves on to be replaced with yet another Californian (as if there is no one in OREGON who could run the schools) who then proceeds to implement all sorts of new "progressive" ideas which flop, to be replaced by yet another Californian, ad infinitum.

Hell, they even brought their damned smog with them!!

So, no, Californians are not heartily welcomed when they slither their way across the border into Oregon!
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The diverse beauty of California should never be in question--the miles of coastline; beautiful deserts; Sierra Nevadas; San Gabriels; the Channel Islands, etc. The Golden State is no longer golden thanks to the delusional criminals in Sacramento who have been running it into the ground since the 70's and have been making it progressively worse.

One cannot paint Cally with a broad brush due to its vast size and diversity of people and geography. There are pockets of third world enclaves surrounded by multi-million dollar mansions. Coastal OC, Malibu, Coastal San Diego are still great areas if your income is commensurate with living there.

Loose immigration policies; over taxation/regulation; burdensome business climate; and too many tyrannical laws are driving people away in droves. I grew up in OC, but I left HB 4 yrs. ago because I couldn't take all the aforementioned BS any longer.
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Thank you for your well put smart input and giving people both sides of the story instead of just talking about the political and economic aspect of Cali, much appreciated.
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You're welcome Op. Are you living there? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? I do know that many folks were down of Californians during the real estate bubble, because so many jumped ship and brought all their equity to other nearby states, and in some cases paid cash for their new home. This drove up real estate costs in other states, as well as bitterness amongst the original residents of said state.
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As an Oregonian I can tell you that your premise is correct. The reason that the property prices were lower here is because they were geared toward the income level of the "natives". When the Californicators came flooding across the border, they snapped up properties left and right. Trouble was, they were a migrating lot and saw nothing wrong with living in a place for 2 or 3 years and then moving somewhere else. This usually occurred after they had dumped thousands of dollars of "improvements" into the property, which jacked up the purchase price so high that only other Californians could afford them. Additionally, all the "improvements" increased the "assessed value" of neighboring properties so that then THEIR property taxes went up, even though there was no way that they could ever have sold for what the "assessed value" was (used to be a standing joke, "Wish I COULD sell it for what the Tax man says it's worth").

The "tree-huggers" killed our timber industry to save the "spotted Owl", and while we were still reeling from THAT they proceeded to kill our fishing industry. Not content with destroying the two biggest job producers in Oregon, they then proceeded to infiltrate our Government in order to turn everything Oregonian into California Part Deux. Now we have so many rules and regulations, thanks to the "progressives" that a person can't do anything with their own property, or even develop the property for the use that it was bought for originally. There are pot-holes in the roads which would swallow a VW Beetle, but yet the openly-gay mayor of Portland (who marched in support of the OWSers until they destroyed the parks where they squatted while wreaking hundreds of thousands of dollars-worth of destruction on surrounding buildings, homes, cars, etc.) puts money into bicycle paths. The politicians in Salem and Portland have no thought for the other 80 per cent of Oregon which is NOT represented, other than to keep jacking up our taxes to support their cockamamie ideas. We used to have a pretty good school system, but they have imported a series of California school administrators who have done nothing but destroy the curriculum, close schools and cram more and more kids into the ones they have favored to stay open and stock with rubber-stamping Marxist teachers, many of whom are from California too. After a few years of screwing up the schools the Administrator moves on to be replaced with yet another Californian (as if there is no one in OREGON who could run the schools) who then proceeds to implement all sorts of new "progressive" ideas which flop, to be replaced by yet another Californian, ad infinitum.

Hell, they even brought their damned smog with them!!

So, no, Californians are not heartily welcomed when they slither their way across the border into Oregon!
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Great post Eggs. Although I was born and raised there, I never looked back once I moved to the state north of you. California is a contagious diease: it is slowly infecting all neighboring states as the liberal viruses spread outward to AZ; OR; NV; ID; CO, etc. I have always been "conservative", so my set point was to always have govt. the fuck out of my life, so I apologize for all my X CA bretheren who have fucked up your state and made it on a par with KALEEFORNIA. I sold my place in CA, but am just renting now since I wouldn't dare test the RE market again. Kind regards.
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