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EURO CARSH: Spain Getting Smoked. Italy Hammered. Big Sell Off Oil & Copper. DJIA drops 200+ Points at Open!

 
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Stock Market down 4.3% today after getting hammered Friday.

-33% YTD.

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ITALY: down -3.3% here after getting tagged on Friday (down -26.2% from YTD top)


COMMODITIES: big sell-off in Copper and Crude Oil in the last 2 trading days; this one will leave a mark

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European Stocks Post Biggest Two-Day Decline Since April

European stocks had the biggest two- day drop since April as concern grew that Greece will default and more Spanish regions will follow Valencia in seeking a bailout. U.S. index futures and Asian shares dropped.

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Much thanks for pin!!
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The real (short term) problem.. Spain 2 year note yields +90bp to 6.66%.. And that is a new euro-era high

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over 6% on the 2yr wow! back in the days they where able to devaluate their currency every year so of course the percentage was much higher as it included this inflation. with the euro they can not do this anymore and so they will go all bankrupt.
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"Euro carsh" ive seen this written a few times is it a deliberate typo or does it have another meaning from the obvious ? Sorry i am not used to all the new internet language yet.
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"Euro carsh" ive seen this written a few times is it a deliberate typo or does it have another meaning from the obvious ? Sorry i am not used to all the new internet language yet.
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"Euro carsh" ive seen this written a few times is it a deliberate typo or does it have another meaning from the obvious ? Sorry i am not used to all the new internet language yet.
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The banks are fucked

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This might sound like a stupid question but I couldn't lurk anymore and hope someone else asked.

How has the dollar fared, as in how much of the fluctuation in oil/copper/others could be attributed to any increase in it's "value" over the same timeframe?

Just a thought. Thanks.
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Spain's Repsol looks to sell LNG assets: sources
- 3 days ago
MADRID - Spanish oil major Repsol is looking to sell its liquefied ... Goldman Sachs is in a pole position for the sale, the person said.


Wall St. Helped Greece to Mask Debt Fueling Europe's Crisis ...www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/global/14debt.html?...​allSimilar
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What price the new democracy? Goldman Sachs conquers Europe ...www.independent.co.uk/.../what-price-the-new-democracy-gol​dman-...Cached
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Nov 18, 2011 – Even before the upheaval in Italy, there was no sign of Goldman Sachs living down its nickname as "the Vampire Squid", and now that its ...
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kitty Slow start...go to 4:30...great ending.
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when spain 10 year hits 7,70% SHTF!
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when spain 10 year hits 7,70% SHTF!
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That could be in the next day or two..
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when spain 10 year hits 7,70% SHTF!
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Its already at 7,5%!!
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when spain 10 year hits 7,70% SHTF!
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That could be in the next day or two..
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There's always a benchmark, then nothing ever becomes of it.
Same thing will happen here.
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when spain 10 year hits 7,70% SHTF!
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


That could be in the next day or two..
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There's always a benchmark, then nothing ever becomes of it.
Same thing will happen here.
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the yield curve (trend line) breaks on 7,7% you see
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Greeks, put your lazy ass to work. You are destroying global economy!!!
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Spanish 10 Year Trades On The Ugly Side Of 7.50%

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"Euro carsh" ive seen this written a few times is it a deliberate typo or does it have another meaning from the obvious ? Sorry i am not used to all the new internet language yet.
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thanks :)
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The International Monetary Fund deliberately suppressed evidence that Europe was heading for a debt crisis, according to a blistering resignation letter from a senior economist at the fund.

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This might sound like a stupid question but I couldn't lurk anymore and hope someone else asked.

How has the dollar fared, as in how much of the fluctuation in oil/copper/others could be attributed to any increase in it's "value" over the same timeframe?

Just a thought. Thanks.
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All you Morans still don't get it....do you ?

This is a battle between the Dollar and Precious Metals.
Just so happens Precious Metals Expiry is this Friday and the Euro market will be allowed to plummet into a black hole shitting on the Euro intern boosting the next Ugliest horse in the glue factory to to the Euro (Dollar), intern trying to pummel precious metals to take all the Calls out of the money. This has been the Wash, rinse, repeat for many years.
After this pummeling this week you will see a QE (not until after delivery) and then a massive moveup in the metals.

Gold is the enemy and oil is the accomplice to the Dollar that tries to supress the metals.

How about that timing "Every Month"
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Spanish 10 Year Trades On The Ugly Side Of 7.50%

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Wasn't Greek bond yields about 500% a few months ago and yet nothing happened? Why so much fuss about a mere 7.5%?

PS - Finance and Economics were not my major, I studied Physics in College. Thank you.
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"Euro carsh" ive seen this written a few times is it a deliberate typo or does it have another meaning from the obvious ? Sorry i am not used to all the new internet language yet.
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Its a GLP thing, The Yanks cant spell properly so it often gets on here as "carsh", and everyone follows suit.


whatever
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This might sound like a stupid question but I couldn't lurk anymore and hope someone else asked.

How has the dollar fared, as in how much of the fluctuation in oil/copper/others could be attributed to any increase in it's "value" over the same timeframe?

Just a thought. Thanks.
 Quoting: Razgriz


All you Morans still don't get it....do you ?

This is a battle between the Dollar and Precious Metals.
Just so happens Precious Metals Expiry is this Friday and the Euro market will be allowed to plummet into a black hole shitting on the Euro intern boosting the next Ugliest horse in the glue factory to to the Euro (Dollar), intern trying to pummel precious metals to take all the Calls out of the money. This has been the Wash, rinse, repeat for many years.
After this pummeling this week you will see a QE (not until after delivery) and then a massive moveup in the metals.

Gold is the enemy and oil is the accomplice to the Dollar that tries to supress the metals.

How about that timing "Every Month"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20224353



The gold and silver market is being deliberately interfered with by major banks shorting the futures price to keep the price down so they can stock up at reasonable prices.

The bubble WILL burst and gold will skyrocket, but who knows when. I cold be years away yet.

hf
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This might sound like a stupid question but I couldn't lurk anymore and hope someone else asked.

How has the dollar fared, as in how much of the fluctuation in oil/copper/others could be attributed to any increase in it's "value" over the same timeframe?

Just a thought. Thanks.
 Quoting: Razgriz


All you Morans still don't get it....do you ?

This is a battle between the Dollar and Precious Metals.
Just so happens Precious Metals Expiry is this Friday and the Euro market will be allowed to plummet into a black hole shitting on the Euro intern boosting the next Ugliest horse in the glue factory to to the Euro (Dollar), intern trying to pummel precious metals to take all the Calls out of the money. This has been the Wash, rinse, repeat for many years.
After this pummeling this week you will see a QE (not until after delivery) and then a massive moveup in the metals.

Gold is the enemy and oil is the accomplice to the Dollar that tries to supress the metals.

How about that timing "Every Month"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20224353



The gold and silver market is being deliberately interfered with by major banks shorting the futures price to keep the price down so they can stock up at reasonable prices.

The bubble WILL burst and gold will skyrocket, but who knows when. I cold be years away yet.

hf
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I do get that the markets are interfered with, but its still a mechanic to keep in mind which is why I asked. We could be pointing at something that is partially natural and screaming fire when all it is is an Easy Bake oven some kid left the brownies in too long on high.

I premised with a stupid question because I'm not as informed as to the mechanics (due dates, rules/regulations, players, etc.) as others are. I've noticed that in the past at least some of the movements were "explainable" as the dollar appreciated and depreciated. Not all of them of course, but at least enough to have to ask so as to satisfy the devil's advocate side of me.

On an issue like this, it has to be taken into account lest we allow ourselves to run rampant hither and thither after white rabbits, both with their own holes, and some requiring holy hand grenades to dislodge from our sight/throats.

So excuse me for being a Moran as you put it, but I'd rather ask the stupid questions and be proven wrong by facts than to just blame everything one one line of evidence and focus in on it and the end results it proves.

Cheers.koolaid
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is today market doom then??