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Iron is NOT a nutrient, it is a poison! Depopulation Plan & Blood Types!

 
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Then; why - please, PLEASE tell me - is the human red blood cell - the corpuscle - dependent on iron to transport oxygen to every cell in your body?
 Quoting: MindShaft


How do you explain iron-deficiency anemia?
 Quoting: MindShaft



"Iron is essential for oxygen transport in the blood": Iron attracts oxygen, thereby causing free radicals, and facilitating the growth of parasites; subsequently stimulating the growth of tumors, cancers and bacteria.



"Iron Deficiency Anemia (IDA)": IDA is characterized as abnormal size/count of blood cells, accompanied by low blood iron levels. IDA is often described as being secondary to copper deficiency as well as to another concurrent disease or condition. Documentation also indicates that copper is needed to mobilize iron from deposit ("storage") sites into the blood. (This is where the copper deficiency comes in.) So, sub-optimal levels of copper will mobilize some iron from deposit locations into the blood; however, will not be enough to excrete the iron. If optimal healthy levels of copper are taken in and maintained in the diet, ALL the iron would be mobilized out of deposits, neutralized and excreted from the body. At the same time copper would replace the iron in the blood and tissue proteins, build normal blood cells to healthy levels, and neutralize the blood pH to 7.00.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21180229



Have you not heard about 'anti-oxidants'?

It's all about balance

'Life' in the human form, is a constant battle between oxidation and reduction (anti-oxidation).

Oxidation is required to power cellular respiration via the constant generation, reduction and re-generation of adenosine tri-phosphate (ATP) cycle for cellular energy.

Anti-oxidants recycle this energy via reducing compounds (vitamins A, C and E, - plus ALA (thioctic acid) and Co-Q10 or 'Ubiquinone') thus providing building blocks for recycling anti-oxidative, power-building and shredding compounds, in a cycle that doesn't quit, until the input calories quit.

If your body didn't have the capacity for oxidation and reduction, you wouldn't be able to fight off a mild 'flu infection. Macrophages (your most primitive immune cell, produces bursts of oxidative hydrogen peroxide compounds when the immune cascade begins)

Without oxidation and reduction in a constant battle for equilibrium - you'd be a corpse.

Don't take my word for it - study a little biochemistry - especially the Kreb's cycle.

BTW - iron is absolutely an essential mineral - in it's pre-digested, colloidal form.

What say you?

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Copper Functions as the Primary Antioxidant: Copper maintains mineral balance, thus a balanced pH with normal blood viscosity, by functioning as the primary antioxidant in the body. When the blood is of normal viscosity with optimal blood flow, the blood is able to rid the body of toxic metals -- iron, chemicals, and any overload of other minerals, (and harmful bacteria and viruses), thereby retaining and balancing out the nutrient minerals. It has been documented that a "decrease in antioxidant protection caused by copper deficiency goes beyond a decrease in the activity of copper-dependent enzymes by inducing a wide range of disturbances in the other enzyme systems. (Ref 4)" This is because copper provides a balanced neutral pH of 7.00 that is required by these enzyme systems in order to activate and function at normal levels. Enzymes are made up of proteins and if any are missing or malformed due to copper deficiency, they do not activate and function at normal levels. These other enzyme systems are involved in the formation of bone and connective tissue, immune system, cardiovascular and heart, brain, liver, blood vessels, pigmentation, collagen and elastin, blood clotting factors, all the glandular systems, and many others. (Ref 4) Thus, it can be stated with certainty that copper is the single most important nutrient in the body. This is why copper is the target for deprivation and depletion.

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Copper Functions as the Primary Antioxidant: Copper maintains mineral balance, thus a balanced pH with normal blood viscosity, by functioning as the primary antioxidant in the body. When the blood is of normal viscosity with optimal blood flow, the blood is able to rid the body of toxic metals -- iron, chemicals, and any overload of other minerals, (and harmful bacteria and viruses), thereby retaining and balancing out the nutrient minerals. It has been documented that a "decrease in antioxidant protection caused by copper deficiency goes beyond a decrease in the activity of copper-dependent enzymes by inducing a wide range of disturbances in the other enzyme systems. (Ref 4)" This is because copper provides a balanced neutral pH of 7.00 that is required by these enzyme systems in order to activate and function at normal levels. Enzymes are made up of proteins and if any are missing or malformed due to copper deficiency, they do not activate and function at normal levels. These other enzyme systems are involved in the formation of bone and connective tissue, immune system, cardiovascular and heart, brain, liver, blood vessels, pigmentation, collagen and elastin, blood clotting factors, all the glandular systems, and many others. (Ref 4) Thus, it can be stated with certainty that copper is the single most important nutrient in the body. This is why copper is the target for deprivation and depletion.

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Please provide a quote/link from a reputable souce
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Thus, it can be stated with certainty that copper is the single most important nutrient in the body. This is why copper is the target for deprivation and depletion.

[link to www.unveilingthem.com]
Read the article that I linked to
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Wow! What a credible source ... /sarc

You are undoubtedly a BELIEVER.

So, what percentage of a human's frame, biology, physiology, psychology, mind etc., is 'copper-powered' by your estimation?

P.S. Is that your website and research?
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I was doing some blood typing research and came across this article that i have linked below...

This is a theory I had not heard of and was wondering how credible this information may be... I did find it very interesting to say the least. Heres the first couple paragraphs. It is kinda long but IMO worth the read...
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Iron is NOT a nutrient, it is a poison. Iron replaces copper in the blood and tissue proteins and accumulates in
multiple locations of the body, causing destruction and
accelerating aging. Bio-available copper must be
replenished to restore health and longevity – to repair the
DNA damage.

The average blood pH in the late 1800’s ranged from 7.38-7.40 (Ref 19). Approximately during the turn of the 20th century in 1900, there appears to have been a blood pH increase, and may be when the pH was initially increased to 7.40. According to the American Heart Association, since 1900, "coronary heart disease has accounted for more deaths than any other cause or group of causes of death in the United States". In 1980 the average alkaline blood pH was set up to 7.43, and is the marker for peak U.S. population numbers due to the initial stage of population reduction, (Ref: Population Reduction Chart). The set-up to critical 7.43 would have been initiated in about 1976. The 7.43 pH level is adjacent to 7.45, the next life critical level, and would explain the steady increase in total number of deaths and declining births beginning in 1980. (Note: the year 1980 marks the peak population for the national numbers. For those states with a current official death rate of 10, the population peaked in 1967 due to an earlier population reduction schedule, set up in 1993.) The final extermination phase was initiated in 1996 and set up in 2006 at the pH level of 7.54, adjacent to the next life-critical level of 7.55 pH. This final phase of extermination marked the beginning of exploding disease prevalence, and can be researched from national health statistics data.

The Population Reduction Chart data estimates it takes about 26 years to set up the blood pH to 7.54. Then, between the 4th and 5th year of the pH set-up, the population reduction rate of about .5% per year is established, in this stage of the extermination schedule. Thus, it takes about 29-30 years to go from peak population numbers to a 0.5% annual reduction. At the 30 year point the death rate is approaching 14-15 in this stage, resulting in a yearly population reduction rate of between 0.5 - 1 %. The official population numbers conceal this reduction by inflating the total numbers, starting in 1980, by exaggerating the number of births. Calculate the actual population numbers by decreasing 1% each year start with 70% of the official 2010 numbers, 71% of 2009 numbers, etc. The U.S. population peaked at about 227 million in 1980, and is currently at about 214 million, a decrease of 5.7%. Death Rate: The reported death numbers appear to be valid up until 2006, when the final extermination phase was set up. The official death numbers for 2006 and later are understated. The death estimates for these years were calculated by using a state with an earlier extermination schedule as reference, by aligning the state and national schedules, and Census 2010 adjustments. The current death rate as of December 2011 is estimated at 14, not the official rate of 7.8.

Continue Reading... [link to www.unveilingthem.com]
 Quoting: Nicolemare


Idiot,

Iron is needed chemically for the oxygen exchange to work in blood. Iron has NOTHING to do with the PH of blood.

Women especially need to intake iron because of blood loss through menstrual bleeding.

As for YOUR poison claim? EVERYTHING has a toxicity level including H2O.

Ignorant FUCKS, where do they come from?

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That's crazy. You need both copper and iron (a lot more iron though). Your blood I'd largely made up of iron. Not enough and you will become anemic. If you know an anemic person you'll see they are not healthy at all.

Many foods are high in copper AND iron, its not an either-or.

Make sure not to overdo it, but you definitely need both of these essential minerals!
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Then; why - please, PLEASE tell me - is the human red blood cell - the corpuscle - dependent on iron to transport oxygen to every cell in your body?
 Quoting: MindShaft


How do you explain iron-deficiency anemia?
 Quoting: MindShaft



"Iron is essential for oxygen transport in the blood": Iron attracts oxygen, thereby causing free radicals, and facilitating the growth of parasites; subsequently stimulating the growth of tumors, cancers and bacteria.



"Iron Deficiency Anemia (IDA)": IDA is characterized as abnormal size/count of blood cells, accompanied by low blood iron levels. IDA is often described as being secondary to copper deficiency as well as to another concurrent disease or condition. Documentation also indicates that copper is needed to mobilize iron from deposit ("storage") sites into the blood. (This is where the copper deficiency comes in.) So, sub-optimal levels of copper will mobilize some iron from deposit locations into the blood; however, will not be enough to excrete the iron. If optimal healthy levels of copper are taken in and maintained in the diet, ALL the iron would be mobilized out of deposits, neutralized and excreted from the body. At the same time copper would replace the iron in the blood and tissue proteins, build normal blood cells to healthy levels, and neutralize the blood pH to 7.00.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21180229


anti-oxidents fight a process called oxidization (typically of fats). They do not remove oxygen from your blood.
Have you not heard about 'anti-oxidants'?

It's all about balance

'Life' in the human form, is a constant battle between oxidation and reduction (anti-oxidation).

Oxidation is required to power cellular respiration via the constant generation, reduction and re-generation of adenosine tri-phosphate (ATP) cycle for cellular energy.

Anti-oxidants recycle this energy via reducing compounds (vitamins A, C and E, - plus ALA (thioctic acid) and Co-Q10 or 'Ubiquinone') thus providing building blocks for recycling anti-oxidative, power-building and shredding compounds, in a cycle that doesn't quit, until the input calories quit.

If your body didn't have the capacity for oxidation and reduction, you wouldn't be able to fight off a mild 'flu infection. Macrophages (your most primitive immune cell, produces bursts of oxidative hydrogen peroxide compounds when the immune cascade begins)

Without oxidation and reduction in a constant battle for equilibrium - you'd be a corpse.

Don't take my word for it - study a little biochemistry - especially the Kreb's cycle.

BTW - iron is absolutely an essential mineral - in it's pre-digested, colloidal form.

What say you?
 Quoting: MindShaft
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The location of my reply about what anti-oxidants are got screwed up.

Oxidization is bad
Anti oxidents are good and repair oxidization
Blood oxygen is good
Anti oxidents do not remove blood oxygen
Copper is essential
Iron is essential
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Do you know ho many vegetables contain iron?

Are vegetable plants conspiring to kill us?
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Well, virtually every growing plant that we eat contains iron....somehow I don't get sick from food.

But iron supplements make me very sick.....so maybe it is the amount of iron in them.....
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different forms of iron. some forms are much more bioavailable and if in foods such as greens, have the companion nutrients for optimal absorption and assimilation.

regarding the article OP posted, this is a highly unlikely scenario. Most Americans for acidic lifestyles/diets and therefore, acidic ph. I eat out of a cast iron skillet daily and do not get sick or constipated from it. Each one of you reading this, order yourselves some ph paper or test strips (if u have a fish tank, you might already have some). Test your urine or saliva with them. I guarantee 90% of you will be in the acidic range.

I do not deny their is an extermination program in play but it is not death by alkalinity. Iron is an important nutrient and helps control COPPER toxicity which is rampant these days. Copper toxicity can cause serious mental disorders. Be careful adding it supplementally into your regimen.

more on copper toxicity:
[link to drlwilson.com]
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But seriously most of our foods contain copper so.

Unless it was in our ancient past spread around all the soil in the world to make all the food rich in copper.

So what about the supposed copper based blood types then, if they ate iron rich foods, wouldn't it suck for them?
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Maybe that's why native Americans are so picky about what they eat
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I'm a normal, healthy woman who tends to run slightly anemic. During both my pregnancies, the doctors wanted me to take iron supplementation, but my body simply will not allow it. The stomach pain I get from an iron pill is excruciating.

Rather than supplementing, I cook in an iron skillet and eat more spinach.

For me, those little red iron pills ARE poison and my body rejects them.
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Same here! I'm a negative blood type and iron does not agree with me at all. Im currently pregnant (told I'm anemic) & the only prenatal vitamins that I've been offered have iron in them. They make my stomach burn & I also get extremely nauseous upon ingesting them. I'm taking a daily multivitamin minus iron instead. Since I'm quite healthy, I don't see the need to supplement my typical iron intake. I assume that my body is trying to tell me something if I take iron & it doesn't agree with me.
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Iron is a mineral.

With out it you would die.

The protein in the red blood cells of vertebrates that carries oxygen from the lungs to tissues and that consists of four polypeptide subunits, each of which is bound to an iron-containing heme molecule.

Instantly. Stupid human.
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these threads spanning years are interesting threads.
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I thought science discovered years ago that it was best to run just slightly below a normal level for iron. Not so much as to be anemic, but low enough not to cause organ damage and inflammation.

If anybody is worried about their levels, just make sure they get a blood test at their annual physical and give blood every few weeks. No big deal.
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Counter study

Abstract
Feeding copper gluconate in the drinking water to C57BL/6J male for a lifetime decreased the mean survival times by 14.4% when given at a concentration of 5 X 10(-3) M (317 ppm copper). The maximum life span was reduced by 12.8% (from 986 to 874 days). Survival data at lower copper concentrations are also reported. Serum, brain, heart and kidney copper concentrations were unaltered by feeding 5 X 10(-3) M copper gluconate. Only liver concentrations increased. Cadmium concentrations in liver and kidney of 168-, 406- and 644-day-old mice were essentially unchanged after feeding copper gluconate for 104 days. We conclude that chronic consumption of copper does not prevent or reduce the normal accumulation of cadmium found in aging mice
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There is a genetic disease that some may have that come from Caucasian peoples. It's when too much iron accumulates in the blood it can cause organ problems. It's called hemochromatosis and you can get checked for it with a test. The test can check for either a genetic marker (cheaper) that shows that your bloodline may have it or a more expensive test that shows if you do have it.

The cure is easy. Donate blood for a few months. It's real.
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Thanks for the info!hf
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Keep having iron levels in blood checked several times a year. The 2 people I know with this condition have to donate blood 2 or three times annually.
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When I was a kid I swallowed Ball bearings every-time I felt weak YES balls from BALL bearings pried out of the thing..

I never shit one out , & were never found in the X rays .

They were simply fully digested ... can I get some Adamantium ones ? I wonder ...tounge

never did me harm ...
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There is a genetic disease that some may have that come from Caucasian peoples. It's when too much iron accumulates in the blood it can cause organ problems. It's called hemochromatosis and you can get checked for it with a test. The test can check for either a genetic marker (cheaper) that shows that your bloodline may have it or a more expensive test that shows if you do have it.

The cure is easy. Donate blood for a few months. It's real.
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While spouse was in the hospital recovering from operation, his roommate was in for the condition you mentioned. Too much iron in his blood. I had never heard of it before that.

Iron supplements do not agree with me. The supplements they put me on when I was pregnant made me feel awful and I quit taking them. Only time I could stomach iron pills was when I was severely anemic.
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There's a lot of natural iron in our blood, what are you on about OP. In proper amounts it is essential for life. Iron is the core of our mother Earth. Three pages of this shit, really?

Are you a flat earther too?
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There's a lot of natural iron in our blood, what are you on about OP. In proper amounts it is essential for life. Iron is the core of our mother Earth. Three pages of this shit, really?

Are you a flat earther too?
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We are talking overdoses in this thread not the essential bare minimum amount that is needed for bodily functions.
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Ever hear of a disorder called Wilson's disease op? It's when the body has too much copper so it causes schizophrenia like personality changes and possibly organ damage.


Humans like all mammals need iron in our blood. Copper is needed too but in much smaller amounts.

Copper, iron, and zinc compete for absorption in the body. Iron usually wins. Hemoglobin in our blood is mostly composed of iron.

In theory, 8% of the earth's crust is composed of iron. It's the most abundant metal on earth. Because of the circle of life the plants absorb the iron, the animals eat the plants, we eat the animals as well as the plants. There is no escaping iron.

Unless you are an alien life form that was dropped here on earth then odds are you are evolved to need iron.

If it were possible for you to chelate all iron from your body then you would become severely anemic and die.



5* by the way op for a credible theory. I'd rather see these kinds of threads than "flat earth" bullshit.
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Over the years I've contemplated the many ways that being "poor" may work to our advantage (i.e. less temptation, driven to problem solve, truer kinships, closer to natural way of being, defense against ego, less greed, etc.).

Perhaps those of us that are "money poor" also benefit from handling all those pennies!
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You can be copper toxic and deficient at the same time

To be bioavailable, copper must be bound to ceruloplasmin

Increase vitamin a

Eat liver





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