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Golan:

was it best not to enage assad further on this? i'm tempted to say that i don't know and it doesn't matter anymore anyway.

but the issue isn't going to go away when assad junior does -- at some point israel has to work out a peace agreemnt with syria. i'd want that deal to leave the Golan in israeli hands -- but that's not how negotiations work. if i had my way, the chaos in syria would end up with a buffer state of syrian christians north of israel -- but that's not going to happen, and once they had their state i imagine they'd have a lot of grudges against israel anyhow.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


PS. Swinburnian, since you want to give land... feel free to compensate Syria by giving them sovereignty over Toronto, Montreal and Alberta oil fields (I think it's Alberta, right?).

What, no go?

But it's so easy to tell others how they should give up half their coutnry here and half their most fertile lands there... in exchange for what? Arab promise? No wonder Sadat came back from Camp David accords glowing: he got Sinai back in exchange for "a piece of paper".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20448834


i'm not telling anyone what they should do -- just pointing out that at some point israel will want to sign a peace agreement with syria.

but you're advocating israelis live in a state of permanent war.
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Golan:

was it best not to enage assad further on this? i'm tempted to say that i don't know and it doesn't matter anymore anyway.

but the issue isn't going to go away when assad junior does -- at some point israel has to work out a peace agreemnt with syria. i'd want that deal to leave the Golan in israeli hands -- but that's not how negotiations work. if i had my way, the chaos in syria would end up with a buffer state of syrian christians north of israel -- but that's not going to happen, and once they had their state i imagine they'd have a lot of grudges against israel anyhow.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


PS. Swinburnian, since you want to give land... feel free to compensate Syria by giving them sovereignty over Toronto, Montreal and Alberta oil fields (I think it's Alberta, right?).

What, no go?

But it's so easy to tell others how they should give up half their coutnry here and half their most fertile lands there... in exchange for what? Arab promise? No wonder Sadat came back from Camp David accords glowing: he got Sinai back in exchange for "a piece of paper".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20448834


i'm not telling anyone what they should do -- just pointing out that at some point israel will want to sign a peace agreement with syria.

but you're advocating israelis live in a state of permanent war.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


You made an excellent point there!
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bibi's economic vision: this is a hard one. yeah, israel has been doing well by many measures. but the economic disparity in israel breaks my heart. i resent bibi for .. maybe i resent him for the dream of a socialist israel being impractical. maybe i'm just sentimental. there it is.

on a sidenote: imagine how well israel would be doing if the haredim learned how to support themselves.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Are we really going to re-litigate FREE-MARKET CAPITALISM vs. Socialism?

What is this, 1979? Come on.

Again reality is:

1. Bibi, Stanley Fischer and Co. have been REMARKABLE sucessful navigating

2. Your heart breaks for for middle-class college students partying it up during summer time rock-band festivities on Roschild Blvrd? For Israelis who can't afford Downtown Tel Aviv Condos or who can't go to a local TA gay-disco with their more affluent friends more than, say, 3 times a week? Puh-lease. Even working class Israelis live better than just about 90% of the region. Well, sure Qataris and Kuwaiti elites are better off, but what Israel's oil & gas finds come online in a year or so, things will look up for the welfare crowd, too.

3. Dalpne Leef's of this world love to point out to Luxemburg, or Switzerland or Norway as some sort of comparison.....Oh yah, Norway with their huge oil reserves, small population and like NO enemies. Same with Switzerland, Denmark or hell even Canada ---- only a true, ideiologically-blinded IDIOT would ever compare Israel with Luxemborg.

4. You don't like income gap? Blame the human nature, first and foremost. Not everyone is entitled to be wealthy without taking risks and working hard, I am afraid.

And really, if was DECADES of socialist rule in Israel....the Socilaist cartels, monoplies, parasitic labor union leaders like Ofer Eini aka Hugo Chavez: Smaller but Fatter, that Bibi tried to break up --- despite huge propaganda attack by Leftist media, unions and the like.


Many of the protesters are my age. I know them intimately. They are SO wrong, it's not even funny -- and I can't even say their heart is the rightr playce, which you could maybe say about the Flower Generation of 1960s.... nope, Rothschild Boulevard is a cynical ploy by Obama, EU, Soros, Labor to collapse a popular democratically elected governement using ALL means & dirty tricks necessary -- including using a severely disturbed, suicidal bankruptee like Moshe Silman, egging him on until he could take no more. Shame, shame, shame.

And it's not working, thankfully.

edit: you talk about Tal Law? Word on the steet is that Ms. Social Justice herself Shelley Yachimovic is willing to TRIPLE the Haredi welfare and exempt them from any military service IF Haredi betray Netanyahu and help bring down the govenrment. Yes, you read it right. Populist atheist is willing the entire 180-degree turn on their principle if it helps their political agend.

That's how Leftists brought down Right-winger Itzhak Shamir back in 1992. They made false promises to both religious Shas AND to newly arrived Russian olim who didn't know Hebrew or shit from shinola --- and BAM, a true patriot like Shamir he replaced by Shimon Peres gang.... which broke every major promise.

Now how about that! If you think Mofaz is far removed from Shelley...you clearly don't know the nature of Kadima.
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bibi's economic vision: this is a hard one. yeah, israel has been doing well by many measures. but the economic disparity in israel breaks my heart. i resent bibi for .. maybe i resent him for the dream of a socialist israel being impractical. maybe i'm just sentimental. there it is.

on a sidenote: imagine how well israel would be doing if the haredim learned how to support themselves.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Are we really going to re-litigate FREE-MARKET CAPITALISM vs. Socialism?

What is this, 1979? Come on.

Again reality is:

1. Bibi, Stanley Fischer and Co. have been REMARKABLE sucessful navigating

2. Your heart breaks for for middle-class college students partying it up during summer time rock-band festivities on Roschild Blvrd? For Israelis who can't afford Downtown Tel Aviv Condos or who can't go to a local TA gay-disco with their more affluent friends more than, say, 3 times a week? Puh-lease. Even working class Israelis live better than just about 90% of the region. Well, sure Qataris and Kuwaiti elites are better off, but what Israel's oil & gas finds come online in a year or so, things will look up for the welfare crowd, too.

3. Dalpne Leef's of this world love to point out to Luxemburg, or Switzerland or Norway as some sort of comparison.....Oh yah, Norway with their huge oil reserves, small population and like NO enemies. Same with Switzerland, Denmark or hell even Canada ---- only a true, ideiologically-blinded IDIOT would ever compare Israel with Luxemborg.

4. You don't like income gap? Blame the human nature, first and foremost. Not everyone is entitled to be wealthy without taking risks and working hard, I am afraid.

And really, if was DECADES of socialist rule in Israel....the Socilaist cartels, monoplies, parasitic labor union leaders like Ofer Eini aka Hugo Chavez: Smaller but Fatter, that Bibi tried to break up --- despite huge propaganda attack by Leftist media, unions and the like.


Many of the protesters are my age. I know them intimately. They are SO wrong, it's not even funny -- and I can't even say their heart is the rightr playce, which you could maybe say about the Flower Generation of 1960s.... nope, Rothschild Boulevard is a cynical ploy by Obama, EU, Soros, Labor to collapse a popular democratically elected governement using ALL means & dirty tricks necessary -- including using a severely disturbed, suicidal bankruptee like Moshe Silman, egging him on until he could take no more. Shame, shame, shame.

And it's not working, thankfully.

edit: you talk about Tal Law? Word on the steet is that Ms. Social Justice herself Shelley Yachimovic is willing to TRIPLE the Haredi welfare and exempt them from any military service IF Haredi betray Netanyahu and help bring down the govenrment. Yes, you read it right. Populist atheist is willing the entire 180-degree turn on their principle if it helps their political agend.

That's how Leftists brought down Right-winger Itzhak Shamir back in 1992. They made false promises to both religious Shas AND to newly arrived Russian olim who didn't know Hebrew or shit from shinola --- and BAM, a true patriot like Shamir he replaced by Shimon Peres gang.... which broke every major promise.

Now how about that! If you think Mofaz is far removed from Shelley...you clearly don't know the nature of Kadima.
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for someone who's all about loving jewish people you sure seem to hate a lot of them :)
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Golan:

was it best not to enage assad further on this? i'm tempted to say that i don't know and it doesn't matter anymore anyway.

but the issue isn't going to go away when assad junior does -- at some point israel has to work out a peace agreemnt with syria. i'd want that deal to leave the Golan in israeli hands -- but that's not how negotiations work. if i had my way, the chaos in syria would end up with a buffer state of syrian christians north of israel -- but that's not going to happen, and once they had their state i imagine they'd have a lot of grudges against israel anyhow.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


PS. Swinburnian, since you want to give land... feel free to compensate Syria by giving them sovereignty over Toronto, Montreal and Alberta oil fields (I think it's Alberta, right?).

What, no go?

But it's so easy to tell others how they should give up half their coutnry here and half their most fertile lands there... in exchange for what? Arab promise? No wonder Sadat came back from Camp David accords glowing: he got Sinai back in exchange for "a piece of paper".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20448834


i'm not telling anyone what they should do -- just pointing out that at some point israel will want to sign a peace agreement with syria.

but you're advocating israelis live in a state of permanent war.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Wow. I really did expect better from you.

That is a typical defeatist garbage you hear from the "Peace" crowd -- and from the sly, smirkig crooks like Arafat, Abbas of this world.

And it's SUCH a crock, it's not even funny.

A huge logical fallacy & wanton disregard for actual regional history, facts, stats.

You think the Muslim War of Attrition against Infidels -- military, economic, political -- has anything to do with Golan Heights or even Temple Mount (which incidentally is never even mentioned in the Koran)?

If you honestly think thik so -- and not just playing devil's advocate.... there is really no point in continuing.
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Golan:

was it best not to enage assad further on this? i'm tempted to say that i don't know and it doesn't matter anymore anyway.

but the issue isn't going to go away when assad junior does -- at some point israel has to work out a peace agreemnt with syria. i'd want that deal to leave the Golan in israeli hands -- but that's not how negotiations work. if i had my way, the chaos in syria would end up with a buffer state of syrian christians north of israel -- but that's not going to happen, and once they had their state i imagine they'd have a lot of grudges against israel anyhow.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


PS. Swinburnian, since you want to give land... feel free to compensate Syria by giving them sovereignty over Toronto, Montreal and Alberta oil fields (I think it's Alberta, right?).

What, no go?

But it's so easy to tell others how they should give up half their coutnry here and half their most fertile lands there... in exchange for what? Arab promise? No wonder Sadat came back from Camp David accords glowing: he got Sinai back in exchange for "a piece of paper".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20448834


i'm not telling anyone what they should do -- just pointing out that at some point israel will want to sign a peace agreement with syria.

but you're advocating israelis live in a state of permanent war.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Wow. I really did expect better from you.

That is a typical defeatist garbage you hear from the "Peace" crowd -- and from the sly, smirkig crooks like Arafat, Abbas of this world.

And it's SUCH a crock, it's not even funny.

A huge logical fallacy & wanton disregard for actual regional history, facts, stats.

You think the Muslim War of Attrition against Infidels -- military, economic, political -- has anything to do with Golan Heights or even Temple Mount (which incidentally is never even mentioned in the Koran)?

If you honestly think thik so -- and not just playing devil's advocate.... there is really no point in continuing.
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i'm happy to stop.
take care
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bibi's economic vision: this is a hard one. yeah, israel has been doing well by many measures. but the economic disparity in israel breaks my heart. i resent bibi for .. maybe i resent him for the dream of a socialist israel being impractical. maybe i'm just sentimental. there it is.

on a sidenote: imagine how well israel would be doing if the haredim learned how to support themselves.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Are we really going to re-litigate FREE-MARKET CAPITALISM vs. Socialism?

What is this, 1979? Come on.

Again reality is:

1. Bibi, Stanley Fischer and Co. have been REMARKABLE sucessful navigating

2. Your heart breaks for for middle-class college students partying it up during summer time rock-band festivities on Roschild Blvrd? For Israelis who can't afford Downtown Tel Aviv Condos or who can't go to a local TA gay-disco with their more affluent friends more than, say, 3 times a week? Puh-lease. Even working class Israelis live better than just about 90% of the region. Well, sure Qataris and Kuwaiti elites are better off, but what Israel's oil & gas finds come online in a year or so, things will look up for the welfare crowd, too.

3. Dalpne Leef's of this world love to point out to Luxemburg, or Switzerland or Norway as some sort of comparison.....Oh yah, Norway with their huge oil reserves, small population and like NO enemies. Same with Switzerland, Denmark or hell even Canada ---- only a true, ideiologically-blinded IDIOT would ever compare Israel with Luxemborg.

4. You don't like income gap? Blame the human nature, first and foremost. Not everyone is entitled to be wealthy without taking risks and working hard, I am afraid.

And really, if was DECADES of socialist rule in Israel....the Socilaist cartels, monoplies, parasitic labor union leaders like Ofer Eini aka Hugo Chavez: Smaller but Fatter, that Bibi tried to break up --- despite huge propaganda attack by Leftist media, unions and the like.


Many of the protesters are my age. I know them intimately. They are SO wrong, it's not even funny -- and I can't even say their heart is the rightr playce, which you could maybe say about the Flower Generation of 1960s.... nope, Rothschild Boulevard is a cynical ploy by Obama, EU, Soros, Labor to collapse a popular democratically elected governement using ALL means & dirty tricks necessary -- including using a severely disturbed, suicidal bankruptee like Moshe Silman, egging him on until he could take no more. Shame, shame, shame.

And it's not working, thankfully.

edit: you talk about Tal Law? Word on the steet is that Ms. Social Justice herself Shelley Yachimovic is willing to TRIPLE the Haredi welfare and exempt them from any military service IF Haredi betray Netanyahu and help bring down the govenrment. Yes, you read it right. Populist atheist is willing the entire 180-degree turn on their principle if it helps their political agend.

That's how Leftists brought down Right-winger Itzhak Shamir back in 1992. They made false promises to both religious Shas AND to newly arrived Russian olim who didn't know Hebrew or shit from shinola --- and BAM, a true patriot like Shamir he replaced by Shimon Peres gang.... which broke every major promise.

Now how about that! If you think Mofaz is far removed from Shelley...you clearly don't know the nature of Kadima.
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for someone who's all about loving jewish people you sure seem to hate a lot of them :)
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Nice try.

I don't hate those gutless loser sell-outs.

I reserve my hate for truly evil people like Hitler, Heydrich, Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al Husseini, Stalin... Ruhollah Khomeini, et al.

I DO pity them. As I do my Egyptian friend on this very thread. They are slaves and they do not even know it. Sad.
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finally -- i think the point you want to make is that because bibi has been right about a number of things, he's right that a strike on iran will be effective and result in a situation better for israel than would be the case if he refrained from striking. i think by this time -- and the timing for the past 3 years has been his -- he's probably wrong.
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I am not saying Bibi was right about about absolutely everything.

It reminds me a little of when the haters pull the card "well...well...you think Israel is perfect or something--- well, it's NOT!!!!!" --- when they run out of arguements. When noone even remotely implied any such ridiculous thing.

Why is Bibi held to such standard of perfection? When Shaul Mofaz can literally coast through life, changing parties like he changes diapers..... do whatever the fuck he wants, come close to commiting treason by leaking military information.... and get called a wise leader at the end?

Bibi may not be most decisive leader, but he indeed was RIGHT a lot. In the current Israeli political spectrum, that in itself is huge.

Nevermind that the primary reason WHY Bibi hasn't struck in 2009 was because of unbelievable PRESSURE exerted on him by Obama, EU, MSM, activist courts and the assorted pussies who can;t see beyond their own shadow.

Yes, Iran attack comes with great risks. That's the price the West has paid for NOT doing anything in last 10 years.

Israel specifically, you suggest sitting back and doing WHAT? More diluted sanctions Iranians are laughting at? Yes, their economy is in poor shape, but Ayatollah Khomeini, Rafsanjani, IRGC brass aren't exactly starving -- which is the whole point.
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As for your infantile insults, our President left the MB AND their political party, so he's "former MB"
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More hilarity. More Taqiyya bullshit.

Reminds me of the time when Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was still exiled in France when Shah of Iran was in power.

Well, Khomeini when talking to naive, gullible leftist journalist.... well, after a while he must have realized what it is that those wide-eyed peaceniks wanted to hear in order to support his cause: so he PROMISED that he would be extremely moderate, compassionate, would pardon most of the Shah supporters, going on and on about how wonderful Islam is all about justice & peace & cute little Shirley Temples and whatnot.

In fact, even shortly after the revoluton of '79, when confronted with stunning brutality of his people, Ayatollah deflected: basically he claimed that he will order all the clerics back into mosques & sermon halls--- meaning they would be taken out of politics for good, which would naturally moderate the political discourse in the (At the time) fairly secular, educated country inherited from the Shah.

Well, flash forward to the mind-boggling atrocities, sending kids to sweet minefields and draw machine gun fire....and other horror, terror and subterfuge incited by those same clerics.

Or the countless lies Arafat used to feed Western reporters and politicians in ENGLISH--- all while turning around and telling his own people to prepare the TERROR waves in Arabic, basically telling them NO pace with jewish, final victory is near, filling schools and even Pali kindergarden with vile hatred for all jewish people, no matter the ethnic or religous status. Etc.


Better yet? Let's see: during the revolution, Muslim Terrorhood promised crossed their hearts-hope-to-die that they would NOT run a Presidential candidate. They lied -- in fact they hedged their bets and ran like 4 of them including allied Salafist. Then... MB promises that they would NOT take more than 50% of Parliament seats out of respect to minorities? Guess what? At fiest opportunity they commandered almost 70%....before Egypt military temporarility saved the day by dissolving the Parliament with the Court's help.


In other words.... STOP LYING. I know in the last few years, Muslims got better PR advisers and propaganda channels al-Jazeera.... so instead of openly admitting their genocidal plans, they now TALK AROUND the issue in the most PC way possible.

Except it's still the same old lies and delusioins. Nice try.
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lolatu

getting desperate now? Taqqiya, I never heard this except from zionist propaganda sites or here on GLP. And then you go WAY off on the topic yet again. Can't face the truth eh? You are doomed, you just lost all credibility with your senseless dribble and threats to the whole world! And I'm not even Muslim.

Double FAIL!
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[correction: Arafat telling his people NO peace with Jewish...]
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lolatu

getting desperate now? Taqqiya, I never heard this except from zionist propaganda sites or here on GLP. And then you go WAY off on the topic yet again. Can't face the truth eh? You are doomed, you just lost all credibility with your senseless dribble and threats to the whole world! And I'm not even Muslim.

Double FAIL!
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Some Egyptian bozo who basically hada EVERY sorry excuse for arguementation methodically pimp-slapped out of his mouth throughout this thread.. telling me I have no credibility.

Perish the thought. Oh no, whatever will I do?!!!!

What's the next? Some Muslim Terrorhood drone getting to decide who is a real jewish and who isn't...who deserves to live where in Levant....and who should live or die....

HAHAHAHAHAAH, thanks for giggles, mate. Rock on!
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Man you're an idiot - seriously - even the most patient and nicest posters on this site have given up discussing with you. You don't know when to quit - that is until you get a knock on your door after spewing terror threats against the whole world, including the Israelis which you clearly don't like either. You are a Zionist Terrorist and should grab yourself on your own nose first before pointing to others.

You can continue your arrogant monologue! The only people listening to you from now on are your AIPAC members and Zionists, the rest are giving you the finger. You should start packing your bags and fill out the application for enlisting in IDF quickly!
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You should start packing your bags and fill out the application for enlisting in IDF quickly!
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Oh yeah? Because you said so?

What's that I hear.... the lonely, unexamined echoes of UN Resolution 242...Eugene Rostow's elucidation thereof....the articles of the Founding Charter of the UN as it pertains to League of Nation commitments.... Bibi's speech to AIPAC.....what's that? You were all left hanging by the silly Egyptian sod who invoked you in the first place and then ran away?

Ooooooh, spooky!
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Hey man!! I way over here in America...That shits goin down on the other side of the world...Fuck them...

I don't give a rats ass if Israel nukes, EMP's, neutrons, whaever the fuck they wanna do...Or if Iran fires 10,000 missles at Tel Aviv...I really don't care...We should just stay the fuck out of that shit and pick up the pieces afterwards...

That's what I believe and I'm stickin to it!!

Let em all kill themselves and let God sort that shit out!!

We....Simply cannot afford Israel...
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Hey man!! I way over here in America...That shits goin down on the other side of the world...Fuck them...

I don't give a rats ass if Israel nukes, EMP's, neutrons, whaever the fuck they wanna do...Or if Iran fires 10,000 missles at Tel Aviv...I really don't care...We should just stay the fuck out of that shit and pick up the pieces afterwards...

That's what I believe and I'm stickin to it!!

Let em all kill themselves and let God sort that shit out!!

We....Simply cannot afford Israel...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468805


Obvious trolling aside....I think your position is beyond shallow, willingly head-in-the-sand ignorant.

Do you think US will be left alone once it surrenders its (many, many) interests to the Muslims, Russians, Chinese?

Ha, fat chance! You must not know or care to know how the world works. They will only sense the blood in the water and sense America's identity crisis & economic weakness.

History proves it over and over again. US leadership after World War 2 has made the world extremely orderly if not quite safe. You have NO idea what's in store for the world if America ever cedes its economic and moral authority.
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Hey man!! I way over here in America...That shits goin down on the other side of the world...Fuck them...

I don't give a rats ass if Israel nukes, EMP's, neutrons, whaever the fuck they wanna do...Or if Iran fires 10,000 missles at Tel Aviv...I really don't care...We should just stay the fuck out of that shit and pick up the pieces afterwards...

That's what I believe and I'm stickin to it!!

Let em all kill themselves and let God sort that shit out!!

We....Simply cannot afford Israel...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468805


Obvious trolling aside....I think your position is beyond shallow, willingly head-in-the-sand ignorant.

Do you think US will be left alone once it surrenders its (many, many) interests to the Muslims, Russians, Chinese?

Ha, fat chance! You must not know or care to know how the world works. They will only sense the blood in the water and sense America's identity crisis & economic weakness.

History proves it over and over again. US leadership after World War 2 has made the world extremely orderly if not quite safe. You have NO idea what's in store for the world if America ever cedes its economic and moral authority.
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It already has, hence the situation the world now finds itself in.
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Hey man!! I way over here in America...That shits goin down on the other side of the world...Fuck them...

I don't give a rats ass if Israel nukes, EMP's, neutrons, whaever the fuck they wanna do...Or if Iran fires 10,000 missles at Tel Aviv...I really don't care...We should just stay the fuck out of that shit and pick up the pieces afterwards...

That's what I believe and I'm stickin to it!!

Let em all kill themselves and let God sort that shit out!!

We....Simply cannot afford Israel...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468805


Obvious trolling aside....I think your position is beyond shallow, willingly head-in-the-sand ignorant.

Do you think US will be left alone once it surrenders its (many, many) interests to the Muslims, Russians, Chinese?

Ha, fat chance! You must not know or care to know how the world works. They will only sense the blood in the water and sense America's identity crisis & economic weakness.

History proves it over and over again. US leadership after World War 2 has made the world extremely orderly if not quite safe. You have NO idea what's in store for the world if America ever cedes its economic and moral authority.
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It already has, hence the situation the world now finds itself in.
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Unfortunately Ron Paul tards and assorted conspiracists do NOT make it easier because they seek to enable, in fact accelerate this process....without truly thinking through the far-reaching consequences & remifications.

Quick example: China spend a TON of time & resources over the last 30-35 years to remake its Mao-ist image -- both to the West and its neighbors in the far east.

So finally, around 2-3 years ago, there were rumblings that Southeast Asian countries were willing to consider asking The US to start drawing down its presence in the Pacific --- you know, because China has become capitalist, peaceful, generous with its neighbors over the years.... right?

Guess what? Within like literally a few months of improved Chinese excess to its neighbors, China started FLEXING ITS MUSCLES and rhetoric --- even though it's still fara weaker than the US overall and in terms of naval power.

So those same asian countreies, incluyding Japan, South Korea, Phillipines, Singapur, Taiwan, Thailand, Indodesia, Hong Kong, hell even the communist Vietnam were STUNNED that even during a diplomatic HONEYMOON period China couldn't help itself or its expansionist ambitions.

It wasn't hard to imagine how belligerent Chinese commie old-farts will get once their economy and military are really on par with the West --- and they stop being so dependent on cheap exports.... It appeared to have sobering affect on those aformentioned Asian countries real quick-like!

So it was hilarious that within literally months of sweaping off the West....those same Asians started to practically BEG the "big, bad, imperialist" Unites States of America to come back to the region in bigger presence than even during the Cold War!!!!!

Lesson learned I guess. Now multiply that by 10 fold when it comes to the Middle East (Russia, Iran, Gult kingdoms and of couse China)....

. American Isolationist and general anto-Americans worldwide always insist on learning the hard way. HAAHHAHAHAAHA.
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Man you're an idiot - seriously - even the most patient and nicest posters on this site have given up discussing with you. You don't know when to quit - that is until you get a knock on your door after spewing terror threats against the whole world, including the Israelis which you clearly don't like either. You are a Zionist Terrorist and should grab yourself on your own nose first before pointing to others.

You can continue your arrogant monologue! The only people listening to you from now on are your AIPAC members and Zionists, the rest are giving you the finger. You should start packing your bags and fill out the application for enlisting in IDF quickly!
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hope you didn't mean me there (not that i'm that nice or patient). he gave up discussing with me. and for the record, while i do find him kinda tiresome, i'm finding you even more tiresome. you should learn the definition of zionist some time -- i'm one.
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EU was screaming

why would they need to be compensated? pan-europeans don't like jewish people -- let's face it
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this was a stupid and ignorant thing to say and i retract it
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Man you're an idiot - seriously - even the most patient and nicest posters on this site have given up discussing with you. You don't know when to quit - that is until you get a knock on your door after spewing terror threats against the whole world, including the Israelis which you clearly don't like either. You are a Zionist Terrorist and should grab yourself on your own nose first before pointing to others.

You can continue your arrogant monologue! The only people listening to you from now on are your AIPAC members and Zionists, the rest are giving you the finger. You should start packing your bags and fill out the application for enlisting in IDF quickly!
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hope you didn't mean me there (not that i'm that nice or patient). he gave up discussing with me. and for the record, while i do find him kinda tiresome, i'm finding you even more tiresome. you should learn the definition of zionist some time -- i'm one.
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Well, that's easy.

As my local Imam once told me as he was massaging my thigh with his silky-smooth tongue, "Zionism" means the following 13 things :

1. Turns matza into Muslim babies' blood.
2. Turns Soviet tanks, planes & radar installations into scrap metal.
3. Steals Palestianian air!
4. Is money-grubbing, money-having, money-stealer!!!
5. Illegally occupies New York -- which according to the Koran was where Prophet Mohammad PBUH ascended to heaven atop his winged powerboat 'al-Barak's Revenge'
6. Puts irresistable homosexual thoughts into the heads of fine upstanding manly Muslims.
7. Controls banks, Congress, media, Hollywood, Bollywood and more banks.
8. Showers at least once a month. With soap! Such Haram!
9. Can't even beat his wife in the morning properly!
10. Refuses to DIE, DIE, DIE!

Ok my local Imam could only count to 9, but I am sure all the other reasons are even worse! Boo to Zionist face, BOOOOOO!

It's all true, becaue it has been further confirmed by Encyclopedia Koranica. An infidel like you should learn to be smart next time, OK!
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Man you're an idiot - seriously - even the most patient and nicest posters on this site have given up discussing with you. You don't know when to quit - that is until you get a knock on your door after spewing terror threats against the whole world, including the Israelis which you clearly don't like either. You are a Zionist Terrorist and should grab yourself on your own nose first before pointing to others.

You can continue your arrogant monologue! The only people listening to you from now on are your AIPAC members and Zionists, the rest are giving you the finger. You should start packing your bags and fill out the application for enlisting in IDF quickly!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20437798


hope you didn't mean me there (not that i'm that nice or patient). he gave up discussing with me. and for the record, while i do find him kinda tiresome, i'm finding you even more tiresome. you should learn the definition of zionist some time -- i'm one.
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Well, that's easy.

As my local Imam once told me as he was massaging my thigh with his silky-smooth tongue, "Zionism" means the following 13 things :

1. Turns matza into Muslim babies' blood.
2. Turns Soviet tanks, planes & radar installations into scrap metal.
3. Steals Palestianian air!
4. Is money-grubbing, money-having, money-stealer!!!
5. Illegally occupies New York -- which according to the Koran was where Prophet Mohammad PBUH ascended to heaven atop his winged powerboat 'al-Barak's Revenge'
6. Puts irresistable homosexual thoughts into the heads of fine upstanding manly Muslims.
7. Controls banks, Congress, media, Hollywood, Bollywood and more banks.
8. Showers at least once a month. With soap! Such Haram!
9. Can't even beat his wife in the morning properly!
10. Refuses to DIE, DIE, DIE!

Ok my local Imam could only count to 9, but I am sure all the other reasons are even worse! Boo to Zionist face, BOOOOOO!

It's all true, becaue it has been further confirmed by Encyclopedia Koranica. An infidel like you should learn to be smart next time, OK!
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Speaking of which

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

Ah the old Mofaz, always 2 steps behind, lulz.
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Mofaz (former leader of Israels armed forces) and upcoming PM is born in Iran by the way (Persian jewish) . (same as the former President of Israel)
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Mofaz (former leader of Israels armed forces) and upcoming PM is born in Iran by the way (Persian jewish) . (same as the former President of Israel)
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Mofaz as PM? You are DREAMING. Kadima party has been polling disasterously.

And despite all of George Soros/Obama/Brussels efforts to collapse Bibi's government over the last 2 years.... and replace it either Tsipi Livni or Shelley Yachimovich.... GIANT FAIL. Ooops!

But yeah, both former President Katsav AND the former IDF Chief-of-Staff Mofaz.... are of Iranian descent.

Another proof Israel is SO racialist....
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"Kadima head Shaul Mofaz: premature attack will lead to war, make it harder to attack in the future".


[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

So fighting a war has a risk of... starting a war?

Wow, that's, uh, brilliant reasoning there, Mofaz.

How did this doofus ever make Chief-of-Staff?

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