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How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Whiterabbit R.O.
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How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When a bad guy , or good , is looking down the barrel of a rifle or pistol, that person is ONLY focusing on his TARGET ....


He has TUNNELVISION ...............




Its extrememly EASY to outflank ( manuever yourself to either side) , or come up from behind and Knock the living crap out of him.....



Key ... keep presence of mind duirng this time !



Ill not say how ive learned this those days are long gone now, BUT it WORKS !!!!!!!!!!!!




( of course this will drop off the page in 3 minutes and the one that needs to see this , to use it in the future , well you know ! )
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Many blessings and THANK YOU ! fer the bump....
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Wow, and here I thought you were going to tell me to pull out my cell phone, dial 911, explain the nature of my perdicament and wait for the police to show up and protect me.
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Wow, and here I thought you were going to tell me to pull out my cell phone, dial 911, explain the nature of my perdicament and wait for the police to show up and protect me.
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lmao
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Wow, and here I thought you were going to tell me to pull out my cell phone, dial 911, explain the nature of my perdicament and wait for the police to show up and protect me.
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lmao
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that was hillarious thx! .... yeah and in a town i used to live in that meant waiting 30 mins to three frkn hours... not kiddin either !
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pull your ccw
A pissed off American veteran!
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07/23/2012 07:08 PM
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You just got 4 tards killed
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lol what if he is not aiming .. but just spraying everyone randomly
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07/23/2012 07:15 PM
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good info. makes sense i just hadnt tought of it that way

i know myself tho. im the person to just freeze

had a car catch on seriouse fire once and just kept sitting in the car.

was next to a shooting in a club once. everyone ducked and ran out. i just stoot there drinking my drink and looking around..

i guess movies and such just made me not see the difference anymore or something

hiding
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When a bad guy , or good , is looking down the barrel of a rifle or pistol, that person is ONLY focusing on his TARGET ....


He has TUNNELVISION ...............




Its extrememly EASY to outflank ( manuever yourself to either side) , or come up from behind and Knock the living crap out of him.....



Key ... keep presence of mind duirng this time !



Ill not say how ive learned this those days are long gone now, BUT it WORKS !!!!!!!!!!!!




( of course this will drop off the page in 3 minutes and the one that needs to see this , to use it in the future , well you know ! )
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offer his some of your skittles?
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lol what if he is not aiming .. but just spraying everyone randomly
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my thought too, even before reading past the thread subject!
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When a bad guy , or good , is looking down the barrel of a rifle or pistol, that person is ONLY focusing on his TARGET ....


He has TUNNELVISION ...............




Its extrememly EASY to outflank ( manuever yourself to either side) , or come up from behind and Knock the living crap out of him.....



Key ... keep presence of mind duirng this time !



Ill not say how ive learned this those days are long gone now, BUT it WORKS !!!!!!!!!!!!




( of course this will drop off the page in 3 minutes and the one that needs to see this , to use it in the future , well you know ! )
 Quoting: Whiterabbit R.O.


Did you know Michael D. Echanis by any chance?
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


Know my friend i dont , sorry . Whom would that be? if i may ask....
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lol what if he is not aiming .. but just spraying everyone randomly
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my thought too, even before reading past the thread subject!
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Of course in that situation another tactic must be used .


Dropping to the ground and rolling may work ....


A shooter who is doing this usually is blinking a lot from a uncontrolled flinching type of reaction...



When a shooter is shooting from the hip on say full auto his shots will not be very accurately placed . They will tend to " walk upward " ...



NOW if the perp is VERY experienced then , well then pray !
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thats all great but you didn't actually tell us dick all.

Do i action roll left and right? Do i dive away?

Obviously if i am behind the guy it will be easy to smash him in the face .

How do i get behind him when hes staring down the sights at my fragile skull?

Any good shooter has above average peripherals...

More info lone ranger more info
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offer his some of your skittles?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539367


Absolutely ! after hes lying thier at your bootheels...


If hes gut shot PLEASE , give him a bunch of cold water to drink.... Those that know will git the humor in that !
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usually taking the dice away works just fine
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Easier said than done. Maybe he is an amateur shooter, maybe he can't focus down the end of a barrel. Maybe hes actually terrified someone else might shoot him so he points at anything that moves.
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the guy is just sighting down a scope you can employ the tactic then and not have to wait till hes firing ...



When the guy is firing is the SAFEST time to employ the outflanking manuver .... of course , maybe i wasnt very clear on this .
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5 starts and suggest a pin.

hf
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lol what if he is not aiming .. but just spraying everyone randomly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20374018


Yes, OP, what does your training say to do in this event?
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Another thing ....



When faced with a pistol , the best thing is to RUN away as fastas you can , and youll be surprised how fast you can run when facing a REAL fight or flight senario... and zig zagging , a lot.


a perp with a pistol ? , his accuracy diminishes GREATLY with EVERY yard you place between you and the gun barrel !


unless the guy is very experienced chances are VERY slim he will hit you in a VITAL organ ....


You may still be hit , but not in a a vital organ ,getting hit by a bullet is NOTHING like in the movies ... now a fifty cal is a different story..............
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whatever the situation may be: get to the back of the person and tackle them.
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07/23/2012 07:55 PM
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Sorry, I got excited and didn't read down far enough.

I always did enjoy playing cowboys and indians. I know, I'm a girl, but it was fun. I think I would also enjoy wrestling with boys, but I'm kinda old for that now. Too bad:(
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lol what if he is not aiming .. but just spraying everyone randomly
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Yes, OP, what does your training say to do in this event?
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If you are close enough...charge him and don't stop. A person can get shot in the heart and still have 12 to 15 seconds to take the shooter out. Odds are if you charge from a close distance you will not receive a fatal wound!
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You just got 4 tards killed
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lOl
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
summon all your strength and all the strength of the universe and knock them off their feet. this is crucial so you don't end up flailing around spraying bullets in an even wider area, potentially getting yourself shot.
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whatever the situation may be: get to the back of the person and tackle them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16453502


Why don't we have this kind of training standard in the US. I suppose the boy scouts might, but still, everybody should be trained to take down an attacker. We have such good availability of facilities and know how, but it isn't taught very well. I should have joined that "m' group if I wanted to know how to do this, but the Chief wasn't a Christian and that kind of put me off.
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Re: How TO STOP a SHOOTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats all great but you didn't actually tell us dick all.

Do i action roll left and right? Do i dive away?

Obviously if i am behind the guy it will be easy to smash him in the face .

How do i get behind him when hes staring down the sights at my fragile skull?

Any good shooter has above average peripherals...

More info lone ranger more info
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17693691


IF he has you in his sights , it will take him a LONG few seconds to reacte , to your MOVE , chances are he will OVER reacte and when he swings his rifle itll actually go BEYOND the proper target aquisition point , THEN he has to oh re target you all over again...



Yuo can actually with your left hand NOT your right , smash the rifle out of the way IF your close enough.PUSH AWAY with your hand , do not slap at it....if your facing him with your left hand youd push to the LEFT ...

ANYTHING is better than getting shot for sure!!!


If a pistol is close, then with your left hand ,rotated backwards GRAB the pistol, bending it backwards , he will be forced to release it or youll break his fingers , THEN while you drop to the ground ,on your back bring your right hand to your left grasp the guard, trigger , by know youll be on your back facing UPWARD into the would be killers face ,with hhis pistol... then PULL the DAMN TRIGGER DO NOT WAIT , do not pause and say GOTCHA or some equally stupid thing...


Just shoot the bastard AGAIN AND AGAIN >>>>>

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