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Weird, cuz all my baby-sitters were straight, and it didn't stop me from being gay. All my siblings are straight, and I never had any exposure to gay people at all as a child. You can't "catch" being gay, and if you could choose it...you could un-choose it anytime you wanted. No one can switch back and forth from gay to straight at will...because no one can choose their sexual orientation. If you really believe you can "choose" your sexual orientation, go ahead and choose to be gay for a month...then switch back. Go ahead. Show us how that happens. You couldn't do it, even if you wanted to. And neither could I.
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Amen. Amen. Amen. Like I have been saying, gay is as immutable as skin color or hair color.

:) Thanks for being "out." :)
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1. Psychology and science show that being lesbian or gay is an immutable trait-- as immutable as skin color or hair color.




no it doesn't and you go ahead and show me a science report that does, there are none, there are news reports aplenty which intimate it(i wonder why), but there is absolutely no scientific evidence for hardwired homosexuality, but go ahead knock yourself out,if you lie or present reports that are fake i will show you up.
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Thread: Born Gay? - Sexual Abuse Victims more likely to be homosexual - Study.

the above link is about abused children and their likelihood of homosexuality, and what i find incredibly telling, is the responses by Riker, and others on this thread as well, they cant answer the simplicity of what i have presented, so they either attack the messenger, my faith or try to promote themselves as being different from their homosexual counterparts and therefore that makes it ok, instead of addressing the simple truth, so no it does not make you or any other homosexuals activity in the sexual realm ok, children should never be allowed alone with those who openly and especially advocate homosexuality. Which brings us to a big question all the homosexuals incensed by the outing of these immoral and wicked techniques/procedures to ensnare more to their lifestyle, who do they respect, defer to promote as leaders, it wont be openly heterosexual parents, that's absolutely for sure.
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Your conclusion is illogical. You seem to be saying that (A) because there exist sexually abused and confused gay people in the world, and (B) because more molested children become gay according to this study, then therefore (X)children should not be allowed to be with gay people.

A logical conclusion to your argument might be that you should not allow children around sexually confused people who were abused. Most gay people are neither confused or sexually abused.

Of course, I know people who have suffered abuse too--straight and gay. They're not molesters.

I have also known sex offenders. Most HAVE been abused sexually. Now there's an interesting situation...

So, I would agree only that children should not be around people who are sex offenders -- straight or gay.

Differentiate between your biases and your logic.
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And for the presumptuous, you say amen, ok Father God, in YAHshua/Jesus Name, if this one can be saved, amen, but any of the false brethren who claim to be believers and worshipers of You and still maintain a homosexual lifestyle and or advocate it especially in so called churches, then let it begin, hollywierd and western msm are moral cesspits, time for it/them to go the way of sodom and gomorrah, amen.
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1. Psychology and science show that being lesbian or gay is an immutable trait-- as immutable as skin color or hair color.




no it doesn't and you go ahead and show me a science report that does, there are none, there are news reports aplenty which intimate it(i wonder why), but there is absolutely no scientific evidence for hardwired homosexuality, but go ahead knock yourself out,if you lie or present reports that are fake i will show you up.


Now you want to take this conversation into the mud where I have to prove people's humanity, because their value and morality is in question?

Pssh. You want me to prove their experiences and their worth are valid? Prove that they're hardwired just to PROVE they're not the monsters you paint them to be?

Why not argue instead about why jewish people aren't greedy usurpers? (Intentional sarcasm.) I mean, science can't really prove that jewish people aren't greedy right? (More sarcasm.) Sure! Why not jump in that mud with you!?

I'm not going to make this about proving to YOU why every major psychological association /organization in the world supports the conclusion that lesbian and gay people are mentally healthy and cannot change.

Just educate yourself.

Psychologists: Gays shouldn't be advised to change: [link to www.usatoday.com]

APA Sexual Orientation Pamphlet: [link to www.apa.org]

PFLAG on Ex-Gay Ministries: [link to community.pflag.org]

PBS on "Gay Gene" debate: [link to www.pbs.org]

The Science of Homosexuality: What is Known: [link to www.sdakinship.org]
A brief excerpt:
"Homosexuality exists in nearly every species of observed mammals and is in all likelihood irreversibly established in humans at a very early age (probably by age five).56 How genetics and environmental factors work together in forging homosexual orientation is unclear, but a genuine homosexual orientation is not a conscious choice."

Homosexual Behavior due to Genetics and Environmental Factors: [link to esciencenews.com]



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Okay, even if we throw out all the science, and all the conclusion of the entire educated world of psychology.--

You STILL have to deal with the fact that most gay people will tell you they can't change.

If you deny their experiences too and just say they're wrong or evil that denies and invalidates their testimony.

You're basically saying that a whole population of people is so wrong that you can't even listen to their own understanding of themselves. You won't even listen.

Shame.
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And for the presumptuous, you say amen, ok Father God, in YAHshua/Jesus Name, if this one can be saved, amen, but any of the false brethren who claim to be believers and worshipers of You and still maintain a homosexual lifestyle and or advocate it especially in so called churches, then let it begin, hollywierd and western msm are moral cesspits, time for it/them to go the way of sodom and gomorrah, amen.
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God, let the people who proclaim that they believe in you bust still hate others be saved from their own folly. God, I pray that they would stop spreading their lies and hatred toward others and see the error of their ways so that their souls may be clean.

Forgive them, and save them from their own spiritual death resulting from the suffering they cause others. Do not forever hold against them all the youth suicides, all the violence, and all the broken families their evil, hatevil philosophies create in the world.

Thank you God,
Amen.
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What you fail to grasp is practicing homosexuals Are sex offenders(or maybe you do), and just like the silent majority of so called liberal muslims, you support aid and abet your more militant homosexual predators by your deafening silence as to their deeds acts and perversions of darkness and evil wickedness. Your logic is flawed and predicated on your lust/s.

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What you fail to grasp is practicing homosexuals Are sex offenders(or maybe you do), and just like the silent majority of so called liberal muslims, you support aid and abet your more militant homosexual predators by your deafening silence as to their deeds acts and perversions of darkness and evil wickedness. Your logic is flawed and predicated on your lust/s.
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You admit that you fail to differentiate between homosexuality and sex offenders.

That's progress.

Let me just say this:
God is speaking through me right now. God wants you to know that you are loved, but so are all the gay people and all the Muslims. God wants you to know that the love is so great for all these people in the world that Salvation was offered to all and not just some. Not just the people who choose to look, act, speak, and believe like one-another. God loves you, and loves all.

If you choose to accept this prophecy, you may. If you choose to reject it, your spiritual path will be darkness.

Your choice.

Accept people for who they are or live a life of darkness.
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God also wants me to ask for your forgiveness for my harsh words earlier in the thread and to let you know that it was not right.

Yet, I am right to speak against hatred, and to stand on the side of Love.
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And for the presumptuous, you say amen, ok Father God, in YAHshua/Jesus Name, if this one can be saved, amen, but any of the false brethren who claim to be believers and worshipers of You and still maintain a homosexual lifestyle and or advocate it especially in so called churches, then let it begin, hollywierd and western msm are moral cesspits, time for it/them to go the way of sodom and gomorrah, amen.
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God, let the people who proclaim that they believe in you bust still hate others be saved from their own folly. God, I pray that they would stop spreading their lies and hatred toward others and see the error of their ways so that their souls may be clean.

Forgive them, and save them from their own spiritual death resulting from the suffering they cause others. Do not forever hold against them all the youth suicides, all the violence, and all the broken families their evil, hatevil philosophies create in the world.

Thank you God,
Amen.
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I note with great interest you try to sound/look/act like a believer, you are a false brother , a grievous wolf a deceiver/liar and a child of your father the originator of your perversion which you revel in, that is the god of this world, the devil, satan etc, that said , your own carefully worded curse on your own head, coven, and household, repent whilst you are able, you really don't have the faintest idea who or what i am in the Lord.
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When i finish shredding the links you post as proof by science(which will be in my time) for homosexuality, and i will do it with the very reports you present as fact,( which reports i guarantee are conjecture, supposition and opinions, not hard evidence, for if there was you would have put it up in big red letters straight away, so don't try and dissemble with me, the viewers of this site thread are not your more gullible mainstream sheep, they tend to think in the main, especially when they see shills posting lies.

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I note with great interest you try to sound/look/act like a believer, you are a false brother , a grievous wolf a deceiver/liar and a child of your father the originator of your perversion which you revel in, that is the god of this world, the devil, satan etc, that said , your own carefully worded curse on your own head, coven, and household, repent whilst you are able, you really don't have the faintest idea who or what i am in the Lord.
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According to our scripture, you will know a true prophet/believer by their fruits.

The fruits of your beliefs are hate and violence.

The fruits of mine are acceptance and love.

Who, then, is the false believer?


Yet, I believe you are genuine. Just know that if you are preaching a message that casts others in a prejudiced, bad light, then that is bad fruit. It produces BAD FRUIT-- the very thing Jesus said would differentiate the true and false believers.

Yes, all the Christian hate against gay people bears the fruit of violence. Yes, it bears the fruit of suicide. And broken families. Yes it bears the fruit of teenagers on the street, drug abuse, and undue social pressure.

A true believer would do everything he could to bear good fruit and allow these things to stop and change.
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Just as dangerous as leaving children in the care of religious fanatics and equqlly damagingnto the child.
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I note with great interest you try to sound/look/act like a believer, you are a false brother , a grievous wolf a deceiver/liar and a child of your father the originator of your perversion which you revel in, that is the god of this world, the devil, satan etc, that said , your own carefully worded curse on your own head, coven, and household, repent whilst you are able, you really don't have the faintest idea who or what i am in the Lord.
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According to our scripture, you will know a true prophet/believer by their fruits.

The fruits of your beliefs are hate and violence.

The fruits of mine are acceptance and love.

Who, then, is the false believer?


Yet, I believe you are genuine. Just know that if you are preaching a message that casts others in a prejudiced, bad light, then that is bad fruit. It produces BAD FRUIT-- the very thing Jesus said would differentiate the true and false believers.

Yes, all the Christian hate against gay people bears the fruit of violence. Yes, it bears the fruit of suicide. And broken families. Yes it bears the fruit of teenagers on the street, drug abuse, and undue social pressure.

A true believer would do everything he could to bear good fruit and allow these things to stop and change.
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You are seriously deceived, possessed too, You are making an unrighteous judgement, for which you will receive the reward thereof (CF sermon on the mount), i am practicing righteous judgement by and with/in Him and His Word, i don't hate homosexuals, i like my Lord God and savior hate homosexuality, a fruit of that evil seed called the devil by many.
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Just as dangerous as leaving children in the care of religious fanatics and equqlly damagingnto the child.
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And this has what to do with the thread, o , i see its an ad homo niem attack against the messenger.
And of course if you leave your child with strangers or friends who you know have issues , you are responsible for the results, it is the child who suffers more though, so please don't pretend to be so holy, unless you are saved in a personal relationship with your Savior God YAHshua/Jesus, you are not o so holy, and in fact are therefore just as big a hypocrite as any religious institionalist who says one thing but does another.
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Just as dangerous as leaving children in the care of religious fanatics and equqlly damagingnto the child.
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And this has what to do with the thread, o , i see its an ad homo niem attack against the messenger.
And of course if you leave your child with strangers or friends who you know have issues , you are responsible for the results, it is the child who suffers more though, so please don't pretend to be so holy, unless you are saved in a personal relationship with your Savior God YAHshua/Jesus, you are not o so holy, and in fact are therefore just as big a hypocrite as any religious institionalist who says one thing but does another.
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norespect
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Stop stupid people breeding!


The ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1.

the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1.


So there you go, idiot OP. Please do not have children, let the stupid genes die out.
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Good post OP.
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My wife's brother is gay. My son is about to turn 4 and he's already made a comment to my wife that he hopes my son will be gay when he grows up. He also tends to wanna socialize with young boys at gatherings. The recent was my wife's sisters wedding. Going on about how a 15 year old boy is so cute and trying to hang around a 12yr old boy. They are some fucked up people.
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Life has a funny way of teaching us all lessons. Perhaps folks who hate on gays will one day have a child that is gay. I've seen this kind of thing over and over again. My daughter is, and it doesn't change my feelings one bit about her, but then, I never had a worry about it and never will. She also likes purple, pizza, and British comedies. Oh, the horror!
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Life has a funny way of teaching us all lessons. Perhaps folks who hate on gays will one day have a child that is gay. I've seen this kind of thing over and over again. My daughter is, and it doesn't change my feelings one bit about her, but then, I never had a worry about it and never will. She also likes purple, pizza, and British comedies. Oh, the horror!
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So you are telling us you hated gays? I dont hate gays, i have gay friends, i just hate homosexuality, is that so difficult to understand?
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Life has a funny way of teaching us all lessons. Perhaps folks who hate on gays will one day have a child that is gay. I've seen this kind of thing over and over again. My daughter is, and it doesn't change my feelings one bit about her, but then, I never had a worry about it and never will. She also likes purple, pizza, and British comedies. Oh, the horror!
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So you are telling us you hated gays? I dont hate gays, i have gay friends, i just hate homosexuality, is that so difficult to understand?
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Very difficult to understand as gays are homosexual.

Or did you mean gay as in happy?
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My wife's brother is gay. My son is about to turn 4 and he's already made a comment to my wife that he hopes my son will be gay when he grows up. He also tends to wanna socialize with young boys at gatherings. The recent was my wife's sisters wedding. Going on about how a 15 year old boy is so cute and trying to hang around a 12yr old boy. They are some fucked up people.
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Well I'd watch those heterosexuals that are 11 times more likely to be paedophiles if I were you.

They are some fucked up people!
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BUT..for those "Liberal" parents who dont mind their children growing up with a love for that brown smelly substance in other peoples backsides..KNOCK yourself out..your children will thank you one day as they march down the street being so PROUD of it.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Just as dangerous as leaving children in the care of religious fanatics and equqlly damagingnto the child.
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And this has what to do with the thread, o , i see its an ad homo niem attack against the messenger.
And of course if you leave your child with strangers or friends who you know have issues , you are responsible for the results, it is the child who suffers more though, so please don't pretend to be so holy, unless you are saved in a personal relationship with your Savior God YAHshua/Jesus, you are not o so holy, and in fact are therefore just as big a hypocrite as any religious institionalist who says one thing but does another.
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Haha! I think you mean Ad Hominem. Bit of a Freudian slip there!
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I just want to point out that you are an idiot and are spouting bigoted bull$hit.

Shut the f$#^ up before spreading more hate to the world. I don't care if you're trolling. This is hateful and uncalled for.
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Care to logically and reasonably counter what i am saying? If not your the troll, btw, i don't hate homosexuals, i hate homosexuality, big difference.
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Where do I begin?

I know hundreds of gay people. I can only think of a handful of people who are driven or controlled by their lusts like you so "intelligently" claim.

Rather, most are driven by what everyone else is driven by. Their careers. Their artistic goals and talents. Music. FAITH- many lesbian and gay people I know are among the deepest spiritual people I know, because they've had to reconcile all the crap society throws at them. They have become among the most selfless, wise people I know.

As for the children thing:
1. Scientific studies show children growing up in healthy gay households are well-adjusted and there is no more likelihood of those children being lesbian or gay themselves. It is equal to the rest of the population.

2. Pedophilia is less prevalent in the gay community than the straight community.

3. Hatred toward people different than yourself is often masked with "reason." If you feel you have to justify how you feel about gay people with pseudo-science (which there is plenty of), I challenge you to make some friends. Befriend people who love themselves for who they are.

Meet some not-self-hating, fully self-accepting gay people. There are plenty of people in poor mental health who will tell you there's the possibility of "change." There's not.

... educate yourself. Talk to gay people. Don't just go on spouting this stuff.

Like I said, I know hundreds of gay people-- most of them are more spiritually grounded than the straight people I know, because they have had to be. They've had to learn to be spiritual and wise in the face off all the crap they've dealt with in their lives telling them they're "less than" or "lusty" or nonspiritual.

Get it now? Sorry if I'm overly insulting, but I cannot tolerate ignorant bs. I hope you understand.
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God says it's wrong. End of story.
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blah blah blah...get a life OP
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I just want to point out that you are an idiot and are spouting bigoted bull$hit.

Shut the f$#^ up before spreading more hate to the world. I don't care if you're trolling. This is hateful and uncalled for.
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can't believe it took about 15 posts before something sensible was said. what a bunch of homophobic rhetoric. and no, i'm not gay, nor do i necessarily 'approve' but seriously, what a load of shit.
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I just want to point out that you are an idiot and are spouting bigoted bull$hit.

Shut the f$#^ up before spreading more hate to the world. I don't care if you're trolling. This is hateful and uncalled for.
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can't believe it took about 15 posts before something sensible was said. what a bunch of homophobic rhetoric. and no, i'm not gay, nor do i necessarily 'approve' but seriously, what a load of shit.
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That's because most people on GLP are sensible about this issue. It should have taken much longer than 15 posts for the BS to start pouring in.
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Especially alone, especially younger homosexual family members, they will without compunction, just by lust and personal gratification alone molest babies and younger children, who not understanding why it is so pleasurable, will then associate the same sex with sexuality/pleasure for the rest of their lives.
There are also predator/pedophile homosexuals who deliberately pray on such situations, single young mothers who need baby sitters etc.
There is also a distinguishment between rapist homosexual pedophiles , who are far more violent and more likely to seriously molest older children and others.
There is also a direct correlation between homosexuality and satanism/luiferianism/liberalism, for those who care to delve into the literature.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


Did the state tell you this?

Ohh and btw here are some facts, and not opinions by a discusting dictatorship.

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Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual.

(Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

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GLP