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“The failed energy policies of the Obama administration and the ‘war on coal’ that the president and his Democrat supporters have unleashed are the direct causes of this layoff,” said Powhatan mine general manager Ronald Koontz, according to The Wheeling Intelligencer. “Unfortunately, for us, this is just the beginning [of] the work force reductions.”

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Obama announced during his campaign that he would "bankrupt the coal industry" so guess that is one campaign promise he is going to make good on.

This is terrible! More jobs lost.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Obama announced during his campaign that he would "bankrupt the coal industry" so guess that is one campaign promise he is going to make good on.

This is terrible! More jobs lost.
 Quoting: Bluebird


This is one promise he is keeping it looks like.
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I'm sure a lot of buggy-makers decried the end of their industry too.

Coal is old, dirty, and out-of-date as a fuel. It's end is near.
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I'm sure a lot of buggy-makers decried the end of their industry too.

Coal is old, dirty, and out-of-date as a fuel. It's end is near.
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I'm sure a lot of buggy-makers decried the end of their industry too.

Coal is old, dirty, and out-of-date as a fuel. It's end is near.
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It's not as dirty as it is being made to appear.

Isn't it always a good idea to have something to replace a system before eliminating it?

There is NOTHING to replace the steam plants which use coal to create electricity.

And we have enough coal to last a century.

It would be better to keep developing ways to make coal burn cleaner than to eliminate it and try to replace it with windmills that rust or solar panel companies that cgo bankrupt or move to China.

We have to work with what we have and with reality as it is and not as we wish it to be.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Obama announced during his campaign that he would "bankrupt the coal industry" so guess that is one campaign promise he is going to make good on.

This is terrible! More jobs lost.
 Quoting: Bluebird


verysad
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I hope the people of Pennsylvania are paying attention! Big coal state and also possible swing vote.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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I hope the people of Pennsylvania are paying attention! Big coal state and also possible swing vote.
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I think majority of voters are paying attention now more than ever. the rest of the zombies watch the kardashians and whatever reality show keeps them dumb.
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Sad.
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Sad.
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It is a shame
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Important.


Greened till a mod can see it. Then it should be supered.

Thanks again, sd.
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Pinned till a mod can see it. Then it should be supered.

Thanks again, sd.
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Re: Coal companies announce layoffs, blame Obama administration
“The failed energy policies of the Obama administration and the ‘war on coal’ that the president and his Democrat supporters have unleashed are the direct causes of this layoff,” said Powhatan mine general manager Ronald Koontz, according to The Wheeling Intelligencer. “Unfortunately, for us, this is just the beginning [of] the work force reductions.”

[link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: sonic doom


dont you get it? obama is invested into oil companies himself. check out his portfolios, no coal companies in them. all oil compainies. keep gas prices high.
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I'm sure a lot of buggy-makers decried the end of their industry too.

Coal is old, dirty, and out-of-date as a fuel. It's end is near.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14090794


It's not as dirty as it is being made to appear.

Isn't it always a good idea to have something to replace a system before eliminating it?

There is NOTHING to replace the steam plants which use coal to create electricity.


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Nat Gas. ANd producers of natgas are hurting because of prices. This kind of agenda really helps prop up NatGas prices.
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I hope the people of Pennsylvania are paying attention! Big coal state and also possible swing vote.
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ding. ding. ding.

You are the current events bigger picture winner :)

Here's a list of the swing states:

Florida...29

Colorado...9

Pennsylvania...20

Virginia...13

North Carolina...15

Ohio...18

Nevada...6

Iowa...6

Wisconsin...10

New Hampshire...4

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the same environmentalist groups drove out manufacturing. they are also attacking the food industry by introducing sin taxes on junk food, fast food. If they keep it up, the food insustries will go broke and millions more will be unemployed
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Yeah and when people get their electricity bills in 2015 they are going to think they are a joke.


They are paying $16.00 a megawatt now.

That will jump to 132 in some states, 164 in others and Ohio gets a royal buttfucking of 357.

Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) held its 2015 capacity auction.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136.00 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16.00 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167.00 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357.00 per megawatt.

[link to www.theblaze.com]

I wonder how many of these 13 states are going to vote for Obama?

I can promise you the average consumer is going to pass out when they get their electric bills in 2015 if somebody doesn't stop this war on coal.

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the same environmentalist groups drove out manufacturing. they are also attacking the food industry by introducing sin taxes on junk food, fast food. If they keep it up, the food insustries will go broke and millions more will be unemployed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12582603


Yes, one industry after another is first villified then penalized out of or almost out of existence.

I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Obama say he would bankrupt the coal industry in just those exact words.

And on the street where I live, there are no gas lines or anything but electricity.

Our utility bills are going to be unbearable but then isn't that what Obama really wants as well?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Yeah and when people get their electricity bills in 2015 they are going to think they are a joke.


They are paying $16.00 a megawatt now.

That will jump to 132 in some states, 164 in others and Ohio gets a royal buttfucking of 357.

Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) held its 2015 capacity auction.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136.00 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16.00 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167.00 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357.00 per megawatt.

[link to www.theblaze.com]

I wonder how many of these 13 states are going to vote for Obama?

I can promise you the average consumer is going to pass out when they get their electric bills in 2015 if somebody doesn't stop this war on coal.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Oh, wow!!!

That is truly eye-opening.

Great info, thanks!
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Cheap natural gas is a failed energy policy?
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I hope the people of Pennsylvania are paying attention! Big coal state and also possible swing vote.
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Pennsylvania is a blue state and as long as they have unemployment, foodstamps and disability flowing their way they will be content and fail to understand being a kept entity by the government comes with risks.

When the tax dollars can no longer support them they will be in for a rude awakening when the realization that their live for today tactics are a failure.
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Yeah and when people get their electricity bills in 2015 they are going to think they are a joke.


They are paying $16.00 a megawatt now.

That will jump to 132 in some states, 164 in others and Ohio gets a royal buttfucking of 357.

Last week PJM Interconnection, the company that operates the electric grid for 13 states (Delaware, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia and the District of Columbia) held its 2015 capacity auction.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136.00 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16.00 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167.00 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357.00 per megawatt.

[link to www.theblaze.com]

I wonder how many of these 13 states are going to vote for Obama?

I can promise you the average consumer is going to pass out when they get their electric bills in 2015 if somebody doesn't stop this war on coal.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Oh, wow!!!

That is truly eye-opening.

Great info, thanks!
 Quoting: Bluebird


Yup. Natural Gas businesses were supporting Obama to bankrupt coal mines by dictating how much CO2 per ton that should be emitted. Coal plants could not meet that demand so they had no choice but close down. Natural gas do not emit as much CO2 to meet the limit so you have to wonder what they are really trying to do.
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Cheap natural gas is a failed energy policy?
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and cheap health insurance, its a double win!


right?
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Cheap natural gas is a failed energy policy?
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Well, I hope not but there are no gas lines in my entire area so are you saying to change the entire steam plant from coal to gas?

Wouldn't that be expensive at a time when there is no money?

I think we need to make the changesa gradual and with some common sense instead of trying to destroy one and force another.

There is no money around here to even do anything.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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“The failed energy policies of the Obama administration and the ‘war on coal’ that the president and his Democrat supporters have unleashed are the direct causes of this layoff,” said Powhatan mine general manager Ronald Koontz, according to The Wheeling Intelligencer. “Unfortunately, for us, this is just the beginning [of] the work force reductions.”

[link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: sonic doom


Great post and great info by the posters on this thread!

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For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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I'm sure a lot of buggy-makers decried the end of their industry too.

Coal is old, dirty, and out-of-date as a fuel. It's end is near.
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Re: Coal companies announce layoffs, blame Obama administration
I hope the people of Pennsylvania are paying attention! Big coal state and also possible swing vote.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Pennsylvania is a blue state and as long as they have unemployment, foodstamps and disability flowing their way they will be content and fail to understand being a kept entity by the government comes with risks.

When the tax dollars can no longer support them they will be in for a rude awakening when the realization that their live for today tactics are a failure.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


According to what I posted above, they will be paying $167 per megawatt. They are enjoying $16.00 per megawatt. Prices will go up 100% in the meantime the coal industry will dive bomb and they are going to get a doubly whammy.

I wonder what that equates to a bill....I think it goes up 8 times higher or something than what you are paying now.


Lets see if they are happy with Obama then.
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Free Energy is out there! Do we have to let these big corporations destroy our planet. A lot of the coal they ship to china.