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James Holmes Initiated A Temporal Illusion Timeline Shift

 
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James Holmes Initiated A Temporal Illusion Timeline Shift
Similar to the movie "The Butterfly Effect", James Holmes went back in time inside of his mind and changed a past event in order to change the present. When he carried out his Temporal Illusion experiment, two different timelines overlapped in the theater and would explain the reports of "two gunmen".

One was the James Holmes of this timeline who carried out the mass killings and the other was a James Holmes of another timeline who didn't kill anyone.
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You must be trippin'
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i just wonder why he had the techno music playing at his apartment though...
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Well...

I....

Shit, I don't doubt anything more!
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James Holmes is a time traveler
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Similar to the movie "The Butterfly Effect", James Holmes went back in time inside of his mind and changed a past event in order to change the present. When he carried out his Temporal Illusion experiment, two different timelines overlapped in the theater and would explain the reports of "two gunmen".

One was the James Holmes of this timeline who carried out the mass killings and the other was a James Holmes of another timeline who didn't kill anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243803


I find it amazing that no one has mentioned how eerily similar that one of the victims of the tragedy looks to him... Im not saying its him, but they are remarkably alike.
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James Holmes is a time traveler
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I wouldn't diss miss the idea.
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Anon 11:23 - Are you talking about the guy shown in a hospital gown? I saw that earlier in one of the threads (I think it was a video, but didn't play it) and thought, huh? He looked like J.H., the suspect, but not so crazy and without the red/orange hair...
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Jame holmes was no idiot in fact he was top of the top of his field .
If you know sherryshriner.com she tell you
1 he was mind scalped his mind was replaced with so murdering creators mind , demon or alien
@ the apartment was all set up with bombs he wasnt a bomb expert he was a neuro science geek sound like a setup
i believe he figured out the tricks of what the black opts
and the agencies have done to people to control them
they probably suckered him in
since they gained control of him if you notices at the hearing today his head bob back and forth like he was
a creature or demon without a care in the world
he porbably had his mind rescalp and that left him acting like a mind gutted zombie
they put him through hell he is probably mind scalped twice or more now to face the death penalty
if YAh is watching i pray the devil who did this to JAme be
hit by a bus or worst the families of the victims find you and make a track out their bodies and have everyone with A SUV keep on trucking over you justice for the victim and punishment for the power that did this and the wicked ones who directed to happen for me everyone should have aside arm to protect themselves those who use their rights for wrong doing,
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What if instead of Temporal illusioning himself, he had a mass temporal illusion device that he set off.

That would be why he acted so different in the trial. And why he booby trapped the hell out of his apartment, because they would find that particular device
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Re: James Holmes Initiated A Temporal Illusion Timeline Shift
Similar to the movie "The Butterfly Effect", James Holmes went back in time inside of his mind and changed a past event in order to change the present. When he carried out his Temporal Illusion experiment, two different timelines overlapped in the theater and would explain the reports of "two gunmen".

One was the James Holmes of this timeline who carried out the mass killings and the other was a James Holmes of another timeline who didn't kill anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243803


Why would he kill this time?
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I always thought it was interesting that scientists who actually discovered things in the nineteenth century experimented on themselves. Like the guy who invented the smallpox vaccine. Nowadays most scientists sit around in white and use other people as the guinea pigs, including as with Tuskegee syphilis, experiments which put the lives of certain classes of human beings directly at risk. But unlike the scientists the govenment pays to work on drones to kill Pakistanis, nihilists like Holmes perform lethal experiments on members of their own nation and do not subject those experiments to peer review.

Still that bit about the woman who almost died in Canada, but did die in Colorado really sticks in my head. And if you read about temporal illusions and the kappa effect, it seems like actual time travel overstates the potential. Time travel is just marketing so a nerds parents and siblings can believe the easter eggs which reward developing your brain are as good as the Easter eggs you get for hitting home runs and scoring touch downs. The kappa effect doesn't change the direction in which time flows, but it does affect perception, and it looks like this joker was able to achieve that outside laboratory conditions.
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You must be trippin'
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Must be!
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James Holmes is a time traveler
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I bet he wishes to travel away right now.





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Jame holmes was no idiot in fact he was top of the top of his field .
If you know sherryshriner.com she tell you
1 he was mind scalped his mind was replaced with so murdering creators mind , demon or alien
@ the apartment was all set up with bombs he wasnt a bomb expert he was a neuro science geek sound like a setup
i believe he figured out the tricks of what the black opts
and the agencies have done to people to control them
they probably suckered him in
since they gained control of him if you notices at the hearing today his head bob back and forth like he was
a creature or demon without a care in the world
he porbably had his mind rescalp and that left him acting like a mind gutted zombie
they put him through hell he is probably mind scalped twice or more now to face the death penalty
if YAh is watching i pray the devil who did this to JAme be
hit by a bus or worst the families of the victims find you and make a track out their bodies and have everyone with A SUV keep on trucking over you justice for the victim and punishment for the power that did this and the wicked ones who directed to happen for me everyone should have aside arm to protect themselves those who use their rights for wrong doing,
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I'm not doubting any of that.

Just a gut feeling but after watching the vid of him in court I somehow felt sorry for the guy. There but for the grace of god go you or I and whatever it was that made him do what he did - whether he was programmed or not, is the real problem which needs identifying.

The general public just want to see him fry and stories like this sell a lot of newspapers but I hope he gets his day in court and has enough time to pull himself together and try and offer some kind of explanation, and what friends he has who may know something step forward and help piece the puzzle together because a few things don't add up - like people demanding he be released, and what you say about him not knowing how to set the booby traps in his apartment.

Sounds to me like he somehow got suckered into doing this, by someone.
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Jame holmes was no idiot in fact he was top of the top of his field .
If you know sherryshriner.com she tell you
1 he was mind scalped his mind was replaced with so murdering creators mind , demon or alien
@ the apartment was all set up with bombs he wasnt a bomb expert he was a neuro science geek sound like a setup
i believe he figured out the tricks of what the black opts
and the agencies have done to people to control them
they probably suckered him in
since they gained control of him if you notices at the hearing today his head bob back and forth like he was
a creature or demon without a care in the world
he porbably had his mind rescalp and that left him acting like a mind gutted zombie
they put him through hell he is probably mind scalped twice or more now to face the death penalty
if YAh is watching i pray the devil who did this to JAme be
hit by a bus or worst the families of the victims find you and make a track out their bodies and have everyone with A SUV keep on trucking over you justice for the victim and punishment for the power that did this and the wicked ones who directed to happen for me everyone should have aside arm to protect themselves those who use their rights for wrong doing,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20411671


I'm not doubting any of that.

Just a gut feeling but after watching the vid of him in court I somehow felt sorry for the guy. There but for the grace of god go you or I and whatever it was that made him do what he did - whether he was programmed or not, is the real problem which needs identifying.

The general public just want to see him fry and stories like this sell a lot of newspapers but I hope he gets his day in court and has enough time to pull himself together and try and offer some kind of explanation, and what friends he has who may know something step forward and help piece the puzzle together because a few things don't add up - like people demanding he be released, and what you say about him not knowing how to set the booby traps in his apartment.

Sounds to me like he somehow got suckered into doing this, by someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18282220


I am starting to get this eerie feeling that this may be something more than I understand. Like I don't know how to explain it but I kinda got the same feeling like you did when I seen his photos/video of him in court. Almost like this feeling of that guy did that, no way. There is something about the look on his face. I don't know. I have really been thinking about this and there are somethings that just really stick out to me.
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bump
For all the interesting possibilities if true.
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just the fact he has to know the lil secrets of our rna

i have no doubt he discovered we are all lizards in this timeline:)

I do think he is programmed and his whole mission wasn't completed.



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Jame holmes was no idiot in fact he was top of the top of his field .
If you know sherryshriner.com she tell you
1 he was mind scalped his mind was replaced with so murdering creators mind , demon or alien
@ the apartment was all set up with bombs he wasnt a bomb expert he was a neuro science geek sound like a setup
i believe he figured out the tricks of what the black opts
and the agencies have done to people to control them
they probably suckered him in
since they gained control of him if you notices at the hearing today his head bob back and forth like he was
a creature or demon without a care in the world
he porbably had his mind rescalp and that left him acting like a mind gutted zombie
they put him through hell he is probably mind scalped twice or more now to face the death penalty
if YAh is watching i pray the devil who did this to JAme be
hit by a bus or worst the families of the victims find you and make a track out their bodies and have everyone with A SUV keep on trucking over you justice for the victim and punishment for the power that did this and the wicked ones who directed to happen for me everyone should have aside arm to protect themselves those who use their rights for wrong doing,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20411671


I'm not doubting any of that.

Just a gut feeling but after watching the vid of him in court I somehow felt sorry for the guy. There but for the grace of god go you or I and whatever it was that made him do what he did - whether he was programmed or not, is the real problem which needs identifying.

The general public just want to see him fry and stories like this sell a lot of newspapers but I hope he gets his day in court and has enough time to pull himself together and try and offer some kind of explanation, and what friends he has who may know something step forward and help piece the puzzle together because a few things don't add up - like people demanding he be released, and what you say about him not knowing how to set the booby traps in his apartment.

Sounds to me like he somehow got suckered into doing this, by someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18282220


I am starting to get this eerie feeling that this may be something more than I understand. Like I don't know how to explain it but I kinda got the same feeling like you did when I seen his photos/video of him in court. Almost like this feeling of that guy did that, no way. There is something about the look on his face. I don't know. I have really been thinking about this and there are somethings that just really stick out to me.
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I feel the same. It is a very overwhelming feeling.
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So if he was creating this temporal illusion or whatever that would mean he was changing the event after it happened or as it happened. Or maybe he was making the event seem like it took a shorter time then what it actually took.
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If he had discovered something really big about neuroscience and the triggers of antisocial behavior which I think was what his phd was about, the scary thing is that something like this is probably a much better way of getting those results out to a wider audience than publishing something in a neuroscience journal so it sits on a dusty shelf.

I didn't see the video of him, but what came up on google about the subject

[link to plato.stanford.edu]

Was a scientific experiment involving people watching a series of explosions on screen and the difference between the relations in time and space which they remembered and those which were actually in the film. It's not so much that I imagine that a human being told him to do this, but If he's been working on experiments like that for a few years I can almost imagine the script for this writing itself in his subconscious.
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Screw all this illusion time travel creating reality shit. The reality of everyones matter is that we are all born and we all die. We are only on this Earth for what 100 years at best. So lets make the best of it and learn to LOVE one another.
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All the stars for curious and intriguing - that WAS his subject of research when he was younger.
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YOU HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TEMPORAL ILLUSION IS. WHAT IT DOES IS CHANGE A PERSONS PERCEPTION OF HIS HISTORY REFRAMING THE EVENT FOR EXAMPLE TO FEEL GOOD ENOUGH INSTEAD OF NOT GOOD ENOUGH. i TREAT PEOPLE WITH TRUAMA DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR CALLED EMDR. EYE MOVEMENT DESENSITATION AND REPROCESSING GETTING THE EYES TO GO BACK AND FORTH BRINGING UP TRUMA FROM THE PAST AND REFRAMING THE EVENT AND THE IRRATIONAL BELEIVE SOMEONE HAS OF THE EVENT SUCH AS I'M NO GOOD ENOUGH. THIS STUFF ABOUT CREATING A GOOD JAMES AND A BAD JAMES IS NOT WHAT IT IS. DO SOME RESEARCH LOOK UP EMDR AND COMPARE IT TO TEMPORAL ILLUSIONS
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Maybe he's not James Homes. Maybe he's John Titor...
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Funny. Not funny.

How about this possibility.

John Titor knew that James Holmes was going to go on a murdering rampage and set-up a subliminal message such as this.

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John Titor warps back to just before the incident and posts this encrypted message on GLP.

Then he warns a U.S. government group from the future called MIB about the online groups that were funding and encouraging James to murder.

The MIB units raided and killed all online encouragers. This caused news of their website involvement when the story broke to disappear.

John himself tries to kill James just before he attacks. But because the news of James and his appearance and actions is so well known because of the Internet, John does not completely kill James. Instead, James' face changes and he goes completely insane because of two time-lines interfacing and merging.

John Titor then tries to make the best of the situation by telling people to get their conceal and carry weapons licenses because these incidences will only increase.

Makes for a better story I think.
I am 1 of a 1000 John Titors.
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I must now add to this story. It might even make a good movie.

So, in the far future, there are many kinds of human beings. As we begin to settle habitable moons and planets, human physiology changes. Some of us look Vulcan. Others look Klingon. But not too radically so. And yes these humans do meet and work with beings that originate on other worlds.

Now Aliens don't look like greys. They don't have big bulbous heads and thin arms. I have no idea how all that started.

Aliens look just like humans. The men who do all the drone work are big and strong and hairless. They are cyborgs in that they have a lot of organic like mechanical tools built into them. When they see, they have a superimposed computer screen built into their field of vision. They can hypnotize you and have a host of mind tricks that you can't figure out. They can make you forget things. They can make you do things against your will. It's like magic but it isn't. It's just something that we may all figure out how to do one day. They wear black and are threatening mostly to intimidate people. They need to protect the integrity of the timeline. We're actually not supposed to see UFO's. But it is impossible to police it all up. And frankly, our grand-children for want of a better word, just don't care if we see them anymore. They are here to save us and themselves from sure doom.

They can appear as anyone to you.
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Wheres a pic of the victim that looks similar?
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He probably dialed some number on his cell phone and put it to his ear to give the illusion of having to leave the movie for a phone call.

It's really just that simple.
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He probably dialed some number on his cell phone and put it to his ear to give the illusion of having to leave the movie for a phone call.

It's really just that simple.
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Or set an alarm that sounded like a ring tone.

That's it.
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Wheres a pic of the victim that looks similar?
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Holmes has a generic appearance. My guess is that most of us have seen/known someone or have a relative who looks eerily similiar to him.

He's so generic that his hair was dyed red to produce an identifier that was easily distinguishable.

Alot of "why's" in this affair.

Careful about too much sympathy for the devil, though, guys.

I don't believe the reality of any sort of time illusion, but there definitely was a temporal-node created, much as Kennedy's murder, 911 and Pearl Harbor created temporal-nodes.

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