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RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes

 
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If it's true that he took 100mg of Vicodin
then it will probably take at least a few days
for the fog between his ears to clear.
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why cant he focus his eyes, why does he keep nodding off? what is he being given in jail?
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Look at the very end when he is leaving where you can see the back of his head. Doesn't it look like a wig?
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if you did not know james you don't know how crazy he may or may not have been. all is speculation. all we have seen of him is a drugged up version, how do you know HOW crazy he is? how do you know he would be dancing on rooftops? how do you know he was the same guy in the body armor? you don't.
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RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes

he has no idea what is going on. what he's doing there.

[link to www.9news.com]
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He's faking it.

When the judge said "Please be seated", he sat down, so he clearly understands what's going on.

His acting is also pretty bad.
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All our acting is pretty bad, dear.
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He was on 100mg of Vicodin during the crime. I have not heard anyone mention this
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The smart ones can see right through this
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He was on 100mg of Vicodin during the crime. I have not heard anyone mention this
 Quoting: Philligan


That is not enough to carry over in his system completely whacking him out days after. The court video shows someone has given him some HEAVY narcotics since then.

Vicodin doesn't make a person trip balls for days, it is just not that heavy of a narcotic.
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They forced the arizona shooter to take meds so why not him?
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They forced the arizona shooter to take meds so why not him?
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I would think in either case it would be illegal, you would think that would compromise court proceedings.
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They forced the arizona shooter to take meds so why not him?
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I would think in either case it would be illegal, you would think that would compromise court proceedings.
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ha ha ha ha
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bump
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MK Ultra.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8482785


Yes, or something like it.
Remember he was in a similar field studying the hippocampus, NeuroSciences.
Maybe he Was the experiment eh?

Definitely under programming and also medicated.
Would be surprised if he knew what was going on or if it all is just a waking nightmare.

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They forced the arizona shooter to take meds so why not him?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 935960


I would think in either case it would be illegal, you would think that would compromise court proceedings.
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ha ha ha ha
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Our judicial system????

ha what a joke
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very strange. he looks messed up for sure.
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It seems the 'Joker' angle has been played to the hilt, if this guy really wanted to portray himself as the Joker he'd at least dye his hair green, Im not sure if the Joker has ever had red hair. This reminds me of a military cop trying to arrest me for sniffing glue after finding a pritstick in my locker and not even noticing the half ounce I stashed with my pot pourrii. Someone with no pop culture experience might have suggested it to him to dye his hair that colour, Im guessing a fuckwit military type.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20436897

I have to follow my intuition in life..every time I don't follow it, I am sorry.

Some people don't understand "intuition", they confuse it with "surmising."

That's okay. I am still going to follow it.

Immediately they sealed the evidence..

Now, I don't see how they could even test for gunshot residue on his hands because he was wearing gloves.

His DNA would be on the inside of the gloves, but when you think about that, that would be possible without him being the shooter.
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


Dont get me wrong, Im not disagreeing with you. In the 80's I took part in an exercise with the SAS, training for them on aircraft hyjacking, it's my belief, through his studies, he got roped into a military exercise and was set up
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I think he was a naive person, that was taken advantage of by a "group" that was using him..and yes, I agree with you..he was set up.
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


hf
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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He was on 100mg of Vicodin during the crime. I have not heard anyone mention this
 Quoting: Philligan


That is not enough to carry over in his system completely whacking him out days after. The court video shows someone has given him some HEAVY narcotics since then.

Vicodin doesn't make a person trip balls for days, it is just not that heavy of a narcotic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20438554



Nope, I have taken more vicodin than that for tooth issues and I am only 110 pounds. It just made me sick to my stomach and tired, nothing like what is going on with him.
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
He looks like he is in some kind of a trance.
 Quoting: Nostalgic Rain


Not in the least...

He simply has not slept in that vid...
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No, he has been brainwashed.
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Nice act holmes. I hope you get the death penalty.
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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
He looks drugged.

The more I analyze this shooting the less sense it makes.

There was a thread on here last night, that wasn't pinned, that had some really good theories on it.

Since they were not mine, I don't think I should be the one to bring them forward..

Who drugged this guy, how long has he been drugged? Did someone else kill people, and then sit this drugged out, hair dyed, fall guy in a car?

Last night I heard two different witnesses from the neighborhood he lived in state that as late as Thursday he had brown hair..

PS..To this day no one from Law Enforcement in Colorado has interviewed his parents. They seem to think they have their guy.

No videos? No proof of it being him, except that he was sitting like a robot in his car..
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


Interesting CC...i imagine he is a patsy...most are for these type of events.

He is not coherent at all in the video - not taking anything in...or responding to anything...deffinately some numbing going on there using mind control...drugs...who knows...but generally young kids genuinly on a mission to achieve something (even if it is shooting loads of people)...prepare for ages - do it - and revel in the exposure.

This dude isn't revelling in anything...

Mind control is my best guess so far. It's been used successfully on previous occassions for infamous assassins.
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Hard to fake pupil dilation, he's off his chops!
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He looks drugged.

The more I analyze this shooting the less sense it makes.

There was a thread on here last night, that wasn't pinned, that had some really good theories on it.

Since they were not mine, I don't think I should be the one to bring them forward..

Who drugged this guy, how long has he been drugged? Did someone else kill people, and then sit this drugged out, hair dyed, fall guy in a car?

Last night I heard two different witnesses from the neighborhood he lived in state that as late as Thursday he had brown hair..

PS..To this day no one from Law Enforcement in Colorado has interviewed his parents. They seem to think they have their guy.

No videos? No proof of it being him, except that he was sitting like a robot in his car..
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


Interesting CC...i imagine he is a patsy...most are for these type of events.

He is not coherent at all in the video - not taking anything in...or responding to anything...deffinately some numbing going on there using mind control...drugs...who knows...but generally young kids genuinly on a mission to achieve something (even if it is shooting loads of people)...prepare for ages - do it - and revel in the exposure.
This dude isn't revelling in anything...

Mind control is my best guess so far. It's been used successfully on previous occassions for infamous assassins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20445803


You are correct in the bolded. The profile on people like this shows an arrogance with some enjoyment during their time in the spotlight in court. Even people with pysch issues will respond to the stimulus in court setting.

This guy is not responding, this is not acting.

Watch court proceedings and you get many clues that the defendant is reacting to the stimulus in the court, whether it is the smallest gesture or not.
This guy is drugged.
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That wide eyed stare makes him look like he's possessed.
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he was set up, look at him it's almost as if he wanted to talk but some sort of substance is keeping him from making verbal communication,..im still puzzled by some questions, for instance how did he get in through the back of the theatre and here's a big one, how come when they first booked him he was smiling with brown hair, and in court he had bright orange red hair? some one it playing strings on this puppet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11333543


Speaking of the back of the theater, there is blood residue there, and a pair of pink flip-flops.

So, we can surmise :-) that someone was carried out the back..do they want us to believe that someone is carried out the back, which would mean LEO's were back there, and this guy is sitting in his car, with all his weapons around him and no one is beating the tar out of him..no one thinks he was the killer? Just some "joker" sitting in the only car in the back?????
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


The curious thing to me with the shots of the pink flip-flops is the AR15 laying on the ground with a regular magazine attached, according to the "official story" he had a 100 round drum attached and when it jammed the shooting stopped. I guess it would be possible for him to have removed the drum and replaced it with a new magazine, but why wouldn't he have started shooting again having just replaced the AR with a fresh mag of ammo?

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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
He was on 100mg of Vicodin during the crime. I have not heard anyone mention this
 Quoting: Philligan


That is not enough to carry over in his system completely whacking him out days after. The court video shows someone has given him some HEAVY narcotics since then.

Vicodin doesn't make a person trip balls for days, it is just not that heavy of a narcotic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20438554


It does with some people.I can sleep for 3 days after taking 1 vicodin.
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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
here's the most important fact about this court appearance video:

HIS EYES DON'T "TRACK" EACH PERSON THAT IS TALKING IN THE COURTROOM, WHICH IS A NATURAL REACTION WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING "ABOUT YOU"!

IT'S AS IF HE HAS NO IDEA WHERE HE IS.

SO HE IS OBVIOUSLY HEAVILY DRUGGED.

SO, if he's such an amazing, efficient, organized "killer" and "bomb-maker" and "evil genius", how did he plan it all out if he's ALSO so super insane? and why was the gasmask at the theatre found very far away from where his car was parked.

IT'S ALL TOTALLY I M P O S S I B L E.

HE IS A PATSY. THERE'S NO DOUBT.
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Look at the very end when he is leaving where you can see the back of his head. Doesn't it look like a wig?
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It clearly is a wig and the early screen captures it was more obvious
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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
they gave Bush the same drugs during 9/11 so he wouldn't look so guilty.
The more a lie is told, the more people start believing it's the truth. As much as it's said, it doesn't change the fact that it's a lie.

"It would make life much easier if I could have total faith and not question everything all the time, but I can't do it and I won't do it."

-Joey Skaggs-
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Re: RAW VIDEO: Full court appearance of James Holmes
here's the most important fact about this court appearance video:

HIS EYES DON'T "TRACK" EACH PERSON THAT IS TALKING IN THE COURTROOM, WHICH IS A NATURAL REACTION WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING "ABOUT YOU"!

IT'S AS IF HE HAS NO IDEA WHERE HE IS.

SO HE IS OBVIOUSLY HEAVILY DRUGGED.

SO, if he's such an amazing, efficient, organized "killer" and "bomb-maker" and "evil genius", how did he plan it all out if he's ALSO so super insane? and why was the gasmask at the theatre found very far away from where his car was parked.

IT'S ALL TOTALLY I M P O S S I B L E.

HE IS A PATSY. THERE'S NO DOUBT.

 Quoting: seekR 996836


Ffffffrrrraaaammmmmeeeeeedddddd
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By Monday the Vicodin should have been out of his system. I think they have him on Thorazine or some type of acid. He acted like he couldn't get his head around where he was, and what he was doing there. JMO

On Meghan Kelly's show today on Fox Trace Gallagher said that one of the Jail Guards told him, or one of the producers of the show, that JH came right into his cell, ate a bowl of Frosted Flakes and then fell asleep and slept like a baby..

Who knows if that is true or not.

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