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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the "US practically justified terrorism" when it refused to condemn the recent bombings in Damascus which were responsible for killing both Syrian officials and civilians.

I suppose that as long as the Al Qaeda terrorists are working for us, killing who we say, it's ok, they are just "rebels". It's only when the same Al Qaeda terrorists attack American interests, then they are terrorists.

Doesn't anyone find this to be just a little bit hypocritical?


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Al Qaeda Taking Deadly New Role in Syria Conflict “We are now forming suicide cells to make jihad"
CAIRO — It is the sort of image that has become a staple of the Syrian revolution, a video of masked men calling themselves the Free Syrian Army and brandishing AK-47s — with one unsettling difference. In the background hang two flags of Al Qaeda, white Arabic writing on a black field.

“We are now forming suicide cells to make jihad in the name of God,” said a speaker in the video using the classical Arabic favored by Al Qaeda.

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exactly as in jugoslavia, the allies have been fooled into support fro the muzzies. You have to really have full control of the media to pull this off going on for years.
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exactly as in jugoslavia, the allies have been fooled into support fro the muzzies. You have to really have full control of the media to pull this off going on for years.
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exactly as in jugoslavia, the allies have been fooled into support fro the muzzies. You have to really have full control of the media to pull this off going on for years.
Nothing happens by accident, in politics or in media

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Yes it happened in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and more recently Egypt & Libya.. Anyone who cannot see the same pattern unfolding in Syria & Iran is either willfully ignorant or stupid! This is not a liberal / conservative issue people! This is a systemic problem which has infected the entirety of western politics!

(Thanks for the pin btw!)
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remember it was suddenly o.k to us torture all of the sudden?
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the "US practically justified terrorism" when it refused to condemn the recent bombings in Damascus which were responsible for killing both Syrian officials and civilians.

I suppose that as long as the Al Qaeda terrorists are working for us, killing who we say, it's ok, they are just "rebels. It's only when the same Al Qaeda terrorists attack American interests, then they are terrorists.

Doesn't anyone find this to be just a little bit hypocritical?


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youtube.com/watch?v=Cx2AMW7ie3A

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I do. Why did not the Washington regime support the Iranian people in Persia (Iran)during their wonderful attempt to free themselves? In my opinion the reason for that was... they did not want that country to change. It was the regime that suited the Muslim Brotherhood, it suited Washington also.
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exactly as in jugoslavia, the allies have been fooled into support fro the muzzies. You have to really have full control of the media to pull this off going on for years.
Nothing happens by accident, in politics or in media

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450718


Yes it happened in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and more recently Egypt & Libya.. Anyone who cannot see the same pattern unfolding in Syria & Iran is either willfully ignorant or stupid! This is not a liberal / conservative issue people! This is a systemic problem which has infected the entirety of western politics!

(Thanks for the pin btw!)
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Yup, this is why so many lawsuits here had evidence witheld due to "National Security" - I suspected it must because it would show the whole picture of who was involved exactly in certain killing, attacks or bombings. Everytime I heard that "evidence witheld by State Security or Ministry of Interior due to National Security", I raised an eyebrow.
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Al Qaeda Taking Deadly New Role in Syria Conflict “We are now forming suicide cells to make jihad"
CAIRO — It is the sort of image that has become a staple of the Syrian revolution, a video of masked men calling themselves the Free Syrian Army and brandishing AK-47s — with one unsettling difference. In the background hang two flags of Al Qaeda, white Arabic writing on a black field.

“We are now forming suicide cells to make jihad in the name of God,” said a speaker in the video using the classical Arabic favored by Al Qaeda.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Dude that's JT news - wouldn't be pro-Al-Aqaeda biased, would it? hahah
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I do. Why did not the Washington regime support the Iranian people in Persia (Iran)during their wonderful attempt to free themselves? In my opinion the reason for that was... they did not want that country to change. It was the regime that suited the Muslim Brotherhood, it suited Washington also.
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What really gets me is that even still a majority of Americans are in complete denial over the fact that WE are supporting Islamic terrorists! I'm not trying to defend Assad here, I'm sure he is a monster but the Syrian people need to sort that out on their own! These Al Qaeda (CIA/MI6/etc backed terrorists) are the ones killing Syrian civilians and then the media turns around and blatantly lies in blaming their deaths on the "Assad regime" when they know full well it's western supported "Muslim Brotherhood" aka "Al Qaeda" terrorists.

What I find even more ridiculous is how once a month the media trots out yet another BS PSYOP story about America killing another Al Qaeda terrorist. Who do they really think they are fooling? Perhaps a large amount of Americans are fooled, but not all of us and certainly not the rest of the world! Just look at the recent example of the US soldier being charged with murder for killing an actual Al Qaeda operative.

So, just let me see if I understand this right. One minute Al Qaeda is our enemy and we are killing and capturing them. But in the next minute when it suits us, we are supporting them with money and weapons because they are doing a great job to bring peace to the middle east?!?!

The people leading this country are seriously fucked in the head! Talk about psychopathic behavior!
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Al-Qaeda Cell Inside Free Syrian Army Posts Video Blowing Up Pigs


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Filmed in Daraa by an Al-Qaeda cell inside the 'Free Syrian Army'. There are several cells in the 'Free Syrian Army' which are part of Al-Qaeda, and this is one of them. It is called the Brigade of Al-Muthana Bin Harithah.

They sing a song which became famous in Iraq as they battled the US occupation for years. The song goes "Blow them up, blow them up, wherever they may be....they are the brothers of pigs and monkeys". And now Al-Qaeda has spread to Syria with the blessing of the pigs and monkeys, and found more pigs and monkeys in Syria.

It does not escape attention that the fight for freedom in Iraq against pigs and monkeys did not exist until the US invaded looking for non-existent WMD.

It is quite amusing that the US regime considers those who call them pigs and monkeys to be terrorists (in Iraq, but not Syria).
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the "US practically justified terrorism" when it refused to condemn the recent bombings in Damascus which were responsible for killing both Syrian officials and civilians.

I suppose that as long as the Al Qaeda terrorists are working for us, killing who we say, it's ok, they are just "rebels". It's only when the same Al Qaeda terrorists attack American interests, then they are terrorists.

Doesn't anyone find this to be just a little bit hypocritical?


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Time for a fucking Regime Change, hey...
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Time for a fucking Regime Change, hey...
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Just as it was in Libya, in Syria a majority of people in the major population centers such as Damascus support Assad. I guess NATO will just have to kill them all too.
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Both sides hate us. If the rebels / Sunni Muslims win, they'll eventually come after the US. They'll start first against Christians, jewish people, and right wingers. After this, they'll then target the remaining groups, atheists, other religions, all non-muslims / kuffar / infidels, and finally they'll go after the very people who helped them, the left. Proof? History
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Both sides hate us. If the rebels / Sunni Muslims win, they'll eventually come after the US. They'll start first against Christians, jewish people, and right wingers. After this, they'll then target the remaining groups, atheists, other religions, all non-muslims / kuffar / infidels, and finally they'll go after the very people who helped them, the left. Proof? History
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Choosing between Sunni or Shia is like choosing between the idiot and the fool; both sects come from the same cult called Islam.

America tends to support Sunni governments in the Middle East (e.g., Saudi Arabia), in part because of its enmity to Iran and Hizbullah. But the US policy in the Middle East, as I'm sure you know, is short-term expediency, and even that is done badly!

(Oh btw, in case anyone failed to realize it, Al-Qaeda is Sunni!)

My position on this is simple, when political regimes (US or anyone else) support radical terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah etc.. the regime is just as much of a terrorist as the guys blowing themselves up!
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Both sides hate us. If the rebels / Sunni Muslims win, they'll eventually come after the US. They'll start first against Christians, jewish people, and right wingers. After this, they'll then target the remaining groups, atheists, other religions, all non-muslims / kuffar / infidels, and finally they'll go after the very people who helped them, the left. Proof? History
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Choosing between Sunni or Shia is like choosing between the idiot and the fool; both sects come from the same cult called Islam.

America tends to support Sunni governments in the Middle East (e.g., Saudi Arabia), in part because of its enmity to Iran and Hizbullah. But the US policy in the Middle East, as I'm sure you know, is short-term expediency, and even that is done badly!

(Oh btw, in case anyone failed to realize it, Al-Qaeda is Sunni!)

My position on this is simple, when political regimes (US or anyone else) support radical terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah etc.. the regime is just as much of a terrorist as the guys blowing themselves up!
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With all that said - whoever backs these groups whether politically, financially or with weapons and training, should be boycotted & or exterminated! After all, seems they're the main reasons why we have these constant wars and terrorism to begin with.
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With all that said - whoever backs these groups whether politically, financially or with weapons and training, should be boycotted & or exterminated! After all, seems they're the main reasons why we have these constant wars and terrorism to begin with.
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hf peace
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With all that said - whoever backs these groups whether politically, financially or with weapons and training, should be boycotted & or exterminated! After all, seems they're the main reasons why we have these constant wars and terrorism to begin with.
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hf peace
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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With all that said - whoever backs these groups whether politically, financially or with weapons and training, should be boycotted & or exterminated! After all, seems they're the main reasons why we have these constant wars and terrorism to begin with.
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hf peace
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
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With all that said - whoever backs these groups whether politically, financially or with weapons and training, should be boycotted & or exterminated! After all, seems they're the main reasons why we have these constant wars and terrorism to begin with.
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hf peace
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
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The vid shows proof that 'moderate' Muslims support 'radical' / devout Muslims.
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
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The vid shows proof that 'moderate' Muslims support 'radical' / devout Muslims.
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You can't throw millions of people in the same bucket with jihadis. If that was true, I should be long dead by now. Trust me, there ARE moderate Muslims, the one's getting involved in a radical teaching and the Hadith's are radical, yet not all are going out killing or attacking people for their different believes. There IS a difference.

Same could be said about the christians who believe there's bible prophecy being fulfilled with Syria, some that want this to happen. They are radical too. Same goes to the jewish people that support this. Also radicals. Does that mean we kill ALL people then that belong to a religious establishment of Judaism, Christianity and Islam? Please...Your view btw could also be categorized as radical. I remember several incidents like that in history, lets not repeat that scenario.
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513283




The vid shows proof that 'moderate' Muslims support 'radical' / devout Muslims.
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You can't throw millions of people in the same bucket with jihadis. If that was true, I should be long dead by now. Trust me, there ARE moderate Muslims, the one's getting involved in a radical teaching and the Hadith's are radical, yet not all are going out killing or attacking people for their different believes. There IS a difference.

Same could be said about the christians who believe there's bible prophecy being fulfilled with Syria, some that want this to happen. They are radical too. Same goes to the jewish people that support this. Also radicals. Does that mean we kill ALL people then that belong to a religious establishment of Judaism, Christianity and Islam? Please...Your view btw could also be categorized as radical. I remember several incidents like that in history, lets not repeat that scenario.
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To add, the one's getting involved in radical teachings - there's plenty that do not. And there's even more who oppose to radical Islam and do not support it. 25% of the eligible voters voted only for Morsi - as an example! If MB was that popular, we would have had a higher turnout of voters as only 50% went to the polls, since majority wanted neither of the 2 candidates. That as an example - I know many Muslims who hyperventilated when Morsi won and are still worried.
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Problem is just - how do we know who's behind them? We can go after all these jihadi terrorists and groups as much as we want, it's like a factory supply line, they just keep coming. Seriously, the people who enable them with all the means I said above is who we need to go after! Once the head is cut, we can finish off the body and it should stop. In a perfect world that is!

hf peace
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
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The vid shows proof that 'moderate' Muslims support 'radical' / devout Muslims.
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You can't throw millions of people in the same bucket with jihadis. If that was true, I should be long dead by now. Trust me, there ARE moderate Muslims, the one's getting involved in a radical teaching and the Hadith's are radical, yet not all are going out killing or attacking people for their different believes. There IS a difference.

Same could be said about the christians who believe there's bible prophecy being fulfilled with Syria, some that want this to happen. They are radical too. Same goes to the jewish people that support this. Also radicals. Does that mean we kill ALL people then that belong to a religious establishment of Judaism, Christianity and Islam? Please...Your view btw could also be categorized as radical. I remember several incidents like that in history, lets not repeat that scenario.
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What 'moderate' / non-devout Muslims, don't realize, is that the devout Muslims, will also attack them, and yes kill them as well, if they too aren't devout. This will occur, more frequently, when the majority of the 'radical' / devout Muslims enemies are eliminated. There's several incidence to prove this.

If you took time to watch the vid, please explain to me then, why the majority of 'moderate' Muslims, are sending funds, are knowlingly funding a 'radical' / devout group?

And why our 80% of mosques in the US teaching violence?

Let's say, that 2 out 10, Muslims are truly peaceful and moderate, do we then allow all Muslims, into the country. If you allow them all in, this is allowing the trojan horse into the country, and this is why there will indeed be an 'Arab Spring' in every country, if we continue this path.

Question:

Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?


Summary Answer:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]


Let me give this analogy. There are 10 murderers. 2 of those 10 murderers, are truly peaceful. You don't which ones they are. Do you allow all the murderers into your home, since you know two of the 10, are truly peaceful and moderate?
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Remember 'jihadi terrorists' is a politically correct term. Radical Muslims, are actually very devout Muslims, who follow all the scriptures of the Quran and Hadiths, the peaceful and violent. The problem isn't a radical group, the problem is Islam itself.

805 of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence [which is merely true Islam]:
[link to www.humanevents.com]
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The vid shows proof that 'moderate' Muslims support 'radical' / devout Muslims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513283


You can't throw millions of people in the same bucket with jihadis. If that was true, I should be long dead by now. Trust me, there ARE moderate Muslims, the one's getting involved in a radical teaching and the Hadith's are radical, yet not all are going out killing or attacking people for their different believes. There IS a difference.

Same could be said about the christians who believe there's bible prophecy being fulfilled with Syria, some that want this to happen. They are radical too. Same goes to the jewish people that support this. Also radicals. Does that mean we kill ALL people then that belong to a religious establishment of Judaism, Christianity and Islam? Please...Your view btw could also be categorized as radical. I remember several incidents like that in history, lets not repeat that scenario.
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What 'moderate' / non-devout Muslims, don't realize, is that the devout Muslims, will also attack them, and yes kill them as well, if they too aren't devout. This will occur, more frequently, when the majority of the 'radical' / devout Muslims enemies are eliminated. There's several incidence to prove this.

If you took time to watch the vid, please explain to me then, why the majority of 'moderate' Muslims, are sending funds, are knowlingly funding a 'radical' / devout group?

And why our 80% of mosques in the US teaching violence?

Let's say, that 2 out 10, Muslims are truly peaceful and moderate, do we then allow all Muslims, into the country. If you allow them all in, this is allowing the trojan horse into the country, and this is why there will indeed be an 'Arab Spring' in every country, if we continue this path.

Question:

Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?


Summary Answer:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]


Let me give this analogy. There are 10 murderers. 2 of those 10 murderers, are truly peaceful. You don't which ones they are. Do you allow all the murderers into your home, since you know two of the 10, are truly peaceful and moderate?
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You are giving very strange statistics, where do you get them from?

First of all, you can find just as many violent things in the Bible or Torah - you will now use the ever old argument, yes, but when was the last time a christian or j e w killed in the name of their God. Well, they do, just not shouting religious verses as they do but they hide behind the mantle of just war or self defenses, lets not kid ourselves here.
Also, I want to add that those verses are written during the time of the Holy War when the Muslims were persecuted. It also states in the Quran that you do not do these things in times of peace, if nobody persecutes you or attacks you, you are to live in peace with them and practice tolerance.

In another thread I was saying these radical muslims are being produced like in a production line. How? Easy. You keep the majority of ME countries under Dictatorship, keep almost half the population like here illiterate, below the poverty rate and you get clerics with fucked up versions of the Quran to preach to them and tell them why they suffer the way they do. Then you give them weapons and tell them to fight a Holy War and enter Paradise where 72 virgins await you (btw this virgin thing does not even exist in the Quran). But how would they know, they either can't read, or if they do, they don't know how to interpret scriptures. You can't read them like a shopping list.
This is where we are in Syria now. You get the people pulling the strings for geopolitical and financial interests to organize, back, finance and arm these guys. That's where your problem lies.

As for my country, trust me, everyone is fully aware of this threat. That's why I said, I know plenty of Muslims who did not want Morsi and did not vote for him. Out of the 50 Million voters, approx 25 Million went and only 13 Million voted for him. Where does that leave the rest of them? That's why you can't throw everyone in the same bucket and accuse them of silently supporting radical muslims or terrorists.

I'm pretty sure the majority of Syrian Muslims, whether Sunni or Shia, would agree with me as they do not support those crazy gunwielding massacring jihadists either.

We have to stop the people enabling them, giving them the tools and the game plan. The rest of the people just want to live in peace!
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You are giving very strange statistics, where do you get them from?

Most U.S. Mosques Teach Violence

By: Robert Spencer
6/14/2011 03:01 AM

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Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism.

Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”

This yet again contradicts the universally held assumption that U.S. mosques are completely benign institutions, in all respects equivalent to churches and synagogues. As long ago as 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department open forum in January 1999 declaring that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America .

“The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques,” Kabbani said, “that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States—like churches they were established by different organizations and that is okay—but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active, they took over the mosques, and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. And there are more than 3,000 mosques in the U.S. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremists has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of jewish people and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in June 2008, federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of “polytheists.”

What is most arresting about these studies is their unanimity. Although each was conducted independently of the others, they all came to the same conclusion: that around three-quarters of mosques in this country are teaching what amounts to sedition. And yet the mainstream media has shown about as much interest in the new survey as they did in the others—that is, none at all.

Maybe they figure that it could be worse. After all, in recent years we have seen mosques used to preach hatred, to spread exhortations to terrorist activity, to house a bomb factory, to store weapons, to disseminate messages from Osama bin Laden, to demand that non-Muslims conform to Islamic dietary restrictions, to fire on American troops, to fire upon Indian troops and to train jihadists. But most of that took place outside the United States, so who cares? We know the mosques inside this country are different! And on what do we base this certainty? Why, nothing, nothing at all except for the bland and smiling assurances of Muslim leaders in this country that mosques are simply places of worship, no more, no less, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a greasy Islamophobe.

It is time to be more realistic. At the very least, reporters all over the country should be asking pointed questions of local mosque leaders about the books they’re using and what they’re teaching in general. And they should call on them to give honest, verifiable answers.

It is more likely, however, that this study, like the others, will simply be ignored. But don’t let that happen. Call upon your elected officials and the media to take notice of this new survey. Our freedoms depend on it.

[link to www.humanevents.com]
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Let me get a bit conspiracy theorist now on this.

I find it quite amazing that the most radical forms of any religion, especially Islam for this example, always seems arise outside of their original countries. Who are these people? Why are they there? Again, we can't throw everyone in the same bucket because I have plenty of egyptian friends, mostly muslim, who live in various countries abroad and are adapted to those countries, most even never visited a Mosque there. But the one's that do and would get involved in these kinds of radical teachings, I see an agenda there as well.

If that is the case and this study is true, I would say those Imam's or Clerics should be warned, Members who follow radical teachings should be monitored - if anyone acts threatening or violent, deport their asses to Saudi Arabia, imo, the cesspool of radical Islam (Whabism). You might want to google that too and see who came up with that cult and for what reason ;)
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Let me get a bit conspiracy theorist now on this.

I find it quite amazing that the most radical forms of any religion, especially Islam for this example, always seems arise outside of their original countries. Who are these people? Why are they there? Again, we can't throw everyone in the same bucket because I have plenty of egyptian friends, mostly muslim, who live in various countries abroad and are adapted to those countries, most even never visited a Mosque there. But the one's that do and would get involved in these kinds of radical teachings, I see an agenda there as well.

If that is the case and this study is true, I would say those Imam's or Clerics should be warned, Members who follow radical teachings should be monitored - if anyone acts threatening or violent, deport their asses to Saudi Arabia, imo, the cesspool of radical Islam (Whabism). You might want to google that too and see who came up with that cult and for what reason ;)
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You are giving very strange statistics, where do you get them from?

Most U.S. Mosques Teach Violence

By: Robert Spencer
6/14/2011 03:01 AM

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Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism.

Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”

This yet again contradicts the universally held assumption that U.S. mosques are completely benign institutions, in all respects equivalent to churches and synagogues. As long ago as 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department open forum in January 1999 declaring that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America .

“The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques,” Kabbani said, “that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States—like churches they were established by different organizations and that is okay—but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active, they took over the mosques, and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. And there are more than 3,000 mosques in the U.S. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremists has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of jewish people and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in June 2008, federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of “polytheists.”

What is most arresting about these studies is their unanimity. Although each was conducted independently of the others, they all came to the same conclusion: that around three-quarters of mosques in this country are teaching what amounts to sedition. And yet the mainstream media has shown about as much interest in the new survey as they did in the others—that is, none at all.

Maybe they figure that it could be worse. After all, in recent years we have seen mosques used to preach hatred, to spread exhortations to terrorist activity, to house a bomb factory, to store weapons, to disseminate messages from Osama bin Laden, to demand that non-Muslims conform to Islamic dietary restrictions, to fire on American troops, to fire upon Indian troops and to train jihadists. But most of that took place outside the United States, so who cares? We know the mosques inside this country are different! And on what do we base this certainty? Why, nothing, nothing at all except for the bland and smiling assurances of Muslim leaders in this country that mosques are simply places of worship, no more, no less, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a greasy Islamophobe.

It is time to be more realistic. At the very least, reporters all over the country should be asking pointed questions of local mosque leaders about the books they’re using and what they’re teaching in general. And they should call on them to give honest, verifiable answers.

It is more likely, however, that this study, like the others, will simply be ignored. But don’t let that happen. Call upon your elected officials and the media to take notice of this new survey. Our freedoms depend on it.

[link to www.humanevents.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513283


Let me get a bit conspiracy theorist now on this.

I find it quite amazing that the most radical forms of any religion, especially Islam for this example, always seems arise outside of their original countries. Who are these people? Why are they there? Again, we can't throw everyone in the same bucket because I have plenty of egyptian friends, mostly muslim, who live in various countries abroad and are adapted to those countries, most even never visited a Mosque there. But the one's that do and would get involved in these kinds of radical teachings, I see an agenda there as well.

If that is the case and this study is true, I would say those Imam's or Clerics should be warned, Members who follow radical teachings should be monitored - if anyone acts threatening or violent, deport their asses to Saudi Arabia, imo, the cesspool of radical Islam (Whabism). You might want to google that too and see who came up with that cult and for what reason ;)
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You're making a mistake, that many here in the west make, because they know many 'moderate' / non-devout Muslims. Sharia hasn't yet been fully implemented, this occurs with time, and as the Muslim population rises even more. The radical / devout Muslims, will eventually overtake your country, if you stay on this course.

I can provide several evidence, that the radical / devout Muslims, will make sure the 'moderate' / non-devout Muslims, also became devout. If not, the 'moderate' / non-devout, will be attacked / punished, and even killed.

If you would take time, to study Islam for many years, and know what the religion is truly about, you'll understand, versus merely assuming you know about Islam, based on the moderate / non-devout Muslims you know about. I don't blame you, the most people are making this mistake. These same people, then remain clueless about why there's an endless supply of radical / devout Muslims.
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An Iraqi Al-Qaeda operative has admitted that his organization is taking part in the Syrian uprising against President Assad.

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From the American movie Rambo III:




Rambo III is an American Action film released on May 25, 1988.

After witnessing Rambo's victory in a stick fighting match, Trautman visits the construction site of the Buddhist temple Rambo is helping to build and asks Rambo to join him on a mission to Afghanistan. The mission is meant to supply weapons, including FIM-92 Stinger missiles, to Afghan rebels, the Mujahideen, who are fighting the Soviets in the Soviet-Afghan War.


For better audio of the same scene, start from 6:20 in the video bellow:



Nice way to know how Taleban and Al-Qaeda started.

With the CIA operatives working inside Afghanistan to organize the "Holy War" against the Soviets...




Islamic Fundamentalism = ALLY of the US government, even when pretending to be an "enemy" in some cases (when convenient to both sides)

Secularist Arab Nationalism = ENEMY of the US government, of the CIA and of Israel.

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