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Theory: Aurora attack originally called for two patsys

 
Jonny Blaze
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I am thinking that originally the false flag attack called for two patsies...Holmes and the Chinese guy that reportedly called up the police station the next day demanding Holmes's release.

The reason I say this is because:

The actor Corbin Dates/Kent's story gave an explanation as to how Holmes got in the theater, but also implied that he was communicating with and possibly working with someone else.

The planted notebook contained illustrations showing stick figures shooting at other stick figures. (plural)

I think that somehow it was the Chinese guy that defeated the programming and got away that night...along of course with what I assume to be two handlers and one or two real gunmen.

The police chief (transferred from Mayor Bloomberg's turf) then made a decision to declare early on that there was only one shooter, because to admit otherwise would mean a gunmen was still at large and they would risk losing positive media control over the situation. I believe their ploy to have no ambulances present (an obvious move to make the police look more heroic than usual) backfired, as too many police at the scene were busy handling the gunshot victims and not controlling the scene.

However, the scripts had already been written, thus there was no time to change Corbin's script or the notebook planted at the university.

The Chinese guy has probably been apprehended already to study how he broke the conditioning. They would want him alive at this point.

This, in my view, went terribly wrong for them. And I believe they will carry out another false flag soon if the Aurora dispatch traffic goes viral. They have probably cued up several and are waiting for the green light to go on them if the story gets out of control.

This also may be why Obama is starting to push for Gun control openly himself.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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This is some good pondering.

I agree with a lot of it too.
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You're on to something.
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I will look into this when I'm done. jerkit
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There were probably cued up to call the Chinese guy 'Bane'.

It wouldn't surprise me.

And of course the scarecrow metaphor is a perfect description of how they MK the patsies after they have dipped them and carted them away to be hated by all.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I will look into this when I'm done. jerkit
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Don't stop. Keep beating that monkey.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I'm thinking the Chinese dude has already been caught. He either didn't escape his handler or he had secondary programming that he wasn't able to defeat.

This is why he called in the police station. Unless he did it from a pay phone or a pre-paid disposable cell phone, odds are he was caught the next day or soon thereafter.

Notice there is no coverage about him after the lone story written about his phone call. SWAT and unmarked police cars were staking out his apartment at the same time the police were saying he wasn't involved.

And no cameras at the next court appearance? Sounds like they are ready to take him off of haldol or whatever powerful anti-psychotic they have him on so that he can at least appear to function normally...but they don't want to take the chance of an outburst that could de-rail the direction of the official story.

Can someone tell me if Corbin the actor was the one who was interviewed after the court appearance and said that he was making a 'sad face' and he thought it was an obvious act?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What I'm baffled by is the booby trapped apartment.

Obviously, it was to implicate Holmes. He wasn't going to escape the event no matter what.

However, how was it supposed to be written into the script? Was it meant to supposedly be a diversion from the theater?

My best guess is that it was meant to go off simultaneously with the theater shooting. This may have been the cover story as to why the ambulances weren't at the theater. If it had gone off, it would have been reported as an explosion and a subsequent fire.

Did the building have natural gas heating? I suspect that it did and thus the initial reports would have assumed that it was a natural gas explosion and fire. Of course, then at some point the authorities would have followed the script and determined that it was Holmes's apartment and booby trapped...because he was conditioned to tell them that it was...they were thinking it would have gone off.

But why take the chance that nobody would have opened the door? They said that there were multiple triggers for the bombs. I speculate that since the second patsy escaped, priorities changed and whoever was supposed to detonate the apartment wasn't able to because his/her primary objective changed from blow up the apartment to drop everything and apprehend the second patsy with emphasis on taking him alive.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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MSM seemed to ignore the story about the guy calling and demanding for holmes release which tells me that there is some major crap going down. Remember Tuscon that is all I have to say....
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Maybe the booby-trapped apartment was meant for someone else.
And when Holmes realized that the cops would be the first ones in he had to tell them about it. If he or any of his handlers are either cops or Feds they are not going to want to see any cops get killed.

Also, don't forget KDVR reported the other guy (Korean, not Chinese) was reported to have a female roommate. Neighbors said she left for work every morning in professional dress but the morning of the shooting she left in a hurry wearing a
"construction outfit". Neighbors haven't seen her or the Korean roommate since.
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Maybe the booby-trapped apartment was meant for someone else.
And when Holmes realized that the cops would be the first ones in he had to tell them about it. If he or any of his handlers are either cops or Feds they are not going to want to see any cops get killed.

Also, don't forget KDVR reported the other guy (Korean, not Chinese) was reported to have a female roommate. Neighbors said she left for work every morning in professional dress but the morning of the shooting she left in a hurry wearing a
"construction outfit". Neighbors haven't seen her or the Korean roommate since.
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Hmm. Maybe it was.

I'm thinking since it had multiple triggers it had also had multiple applications.

The timer for the music was obviously meant to lure someone into the apartment before the shooting. If it had gone off before the shooting, it would provide cover for the lack of emergency medical response. But that was just a chance trigger.

There was no doubt another trigger for a remote detonation and probably another trigger for a timer detonation with a remote override.

In a scenario like this, you would have to work in multiple triggers for contingency planning.

The multiple triggers are a really strong indication that this was highly coordinated. And because the apartment didn't blow, one would have to assume that the op went terribly wrong.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Also,

I assume that if the patsy's were indeed used as the gunmen, which at this point I'm not completely sold on, it was the Korean's AR that jammed and that may have been what broke his programming allowing him to panic and flee the scene.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Pretty sure the Chinese man used the internet for the threat of violence unless Holmes was released.

You can double check though.
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Pretty sure the Chinese man used the internet for the threat of violence unless Holmes was released.

You can double check though.
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Hmm. Ok. That would have been smarter on his part. And it would've worried the handlers much more than a phone call.

Perhaps he had managed to elude the handlers but I doubt it.

The guy is at a huge disadvantage for escape because he is Korean and it's harder for him to blend in. He may not be able to speak English very well if it is his second language.

If I had to bet I would say he is already been captured.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Re: Theory: Aurora attack originally called for two patsys
What I'm baffled by is the booby trapped apartment.

Obviously, it was to implicate Holmes. He wasn't going to escape the event no matter what.

However, how was it supposed to be written into the script? Was it meant to supposedly be a diversion from the theater?

My best guess is that it was meant to go off simultaneously with the theater shooting. This may have been the cover story as to why the ambulances weren't at the theater. If it had gone off, it would have been reported as an explosion and a subsequent fire.

Did the building have natural gas heating? I suspect that it did and thus the initial reports would have assumed that it was a natural gas explosion and fire. Of course, then at some point the authorities would have followed the script and determined that it was Holmes's apartment and booby trapped...because he was conditioned to tell them that it was...they were thinking it would have gone off.

But why take the chance that nobody would have opened the door? They said that there were multiple triggers for the bombs. I speculate that since the second patsy escaped, priorities changed and whoever was supposed to detonate the apartment wasn't able to because his/her primary objective changed from blow up the apartment to drop everything and apprehend the second patsy with emphasis on taking him alive.
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i read in another post he had loud music playing and a neighbour knocked and checked the door and it was unlocked but she didnt go in..... if thats true maybe she was supposed to have triggered it.
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Pretty sure the Chinese man used the internet for the threat of violence unless Holmes was released.

You can double check though.
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Hmm. Ok. That would have been smarter on his part. And it would've worried the handlers much more than a phone call.

Perhaps he had managed to elude the handlers but I doubt it.

The guy is at a huge disadvantage for escape because he is Korean and it's harder for him to blend in. He may not be able to speak English very well if it is his second language.

If I had to bet I would say he is already been captured.
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Don't you kind of have to speak English well to go to college to get your PhD? Don't forget this man was one of Holmes' classmates.
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I like how his car was originally from Tennessee but that was later retracted.
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Re: Theory: Aurora attack originally called for two patsys
Pretty sure the Chinese man used the internet for the threat of violence unless Holmes was released.

You can double check though.
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Hmm. Ok. That would have been smarter on his part. And it would've worried the handlers much more than a phone call.

Perhaps he had managed to elude the handlers but I doubt it.

The guy is at a huge disadvantage for escape because he is Korean and it's harder for him to blend in. He may not be able to speak English very well if it is his second language.

If I had to bet I would say he is already been captured.
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Don't you kind of have to speak English well to go to college to get your PhD? Don't forget this man was one of Holmes' classmates.
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Most of my TA's in Aggieland were foreign PHD students that didn't speak English very well.

Especially the physics TA's and the Differential Equations/Calculus/Math TA's.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Pretty sure the Chinese man used the internet for the threat of violence unless Holmes was released.

You can double check though.
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Hmm. Ok. That would have been smarter on his part. And it would've worried the handlers much more than a phone call.

Perhaps he had managed to elude the handlers but I doubt it.

The guy is at a huge disadvantage for escape because he is Korean and it's harder for him to blend in. He may not be able to speak English very well if it is his second language.

If I had to bet I would say he is already been captured.
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Don't you kind of have to speak English well to go to college to get your PhD? Don't forget this man was one of Holmes' classmates.
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Most of my TA's in Aggieland were foreign PHD students that didn't speak English very well.

Especially the physics TA's and the Differential Equations/Calculus/Math TA's.
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Thanks for explaining that to me. As a college drop out I have limited classroom experience.
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What I'm baffled by is the booby trapped apartment.

Obviously, it was to implicate Holmes. He wasn't going to escape the event no matter what.

However, how was it supposed to be written into the script? Was it meant to supposedly be a diversion from the theater?

My best guess is that it was meant to go off simultaneously with the theater shooting. This may have been the cover story as to why the ambulances weren't at the theater. If it had gone off, it would have been reported as an explosion and a subsequent fire.

Did the building have natural gas heating? I suspect that it did and thus the initial reports would have assumed that it was a natural gas explosion and fire. Of course, then at some point the authorities would have followed the script and determined that it was Holmes's apartment and booby trapped...because he was conditioned to tell them that it was...they were thinking it would have gone off.

But why take the chance that nobody would have opened the door? They said that there were multiple triggers for the bombs. I speculate that since the second patsy escaped, priorities changed and whoever was supposed to detonate the apartment wasn't able to because his/her primary objective changed from blow up the apartment to drop everything and apprehend the second patsy with emphasis on taking him alive.
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i read in another post he had loud music playing and a neighbour knocked and checked the door and it was unlocked but she didnt go in..... if thats true maybe she was supposed to have triggered it.
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Like I speculated in the next post...there were multiple triggers for multiple applications.

The first trigger was a chance trigger...meaning that it was by no means guaranteed to go off.

I speculate that the other triggers the FBI said were there included a remote trigger and a timed trigger with a remote override.

Multiple applications indicate that a contingency plan was in effect...what use would a lone gunmen involved in a mass shooting have for multiple triggers?

Answer: None.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Hmm. Ok. That would have been smarter on his part. And it would've worried the handlers much more than a phone call.

Perhaps he had managed to elude the handlers but I doubt it.

The guy is at a huge disadvantage for escape because he is Korean and it's harder for him to blend in. He may not be able to speak English very well if it is his second language.

If I had to bet I would say he is already been captured.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Don't you kind of have to speak English well to go to college to get your PhD? Don't forget this man was one of Holmes' classmates.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513811


Most of my TA's in Aggieland were foreign PHD students that didn't speak English very well.

Especially the physics TA's and the Differential Equations/Calculus/Math TA's.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Thanks for explaining that to me. As a college drop out I have limited classroom experience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513811


No problem. ;)
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Also

Interesting to note the amount of the grant 26,000.

That is coincidentally the legal tax free gifting amount that two parents could give to a child.

Perhaps the parents were the ones behind the grant.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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First you said Chinese and then in later post says Korean?

If you can't get his ethnicity right then your conspiracy theory is shit to!
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First you said Chinese and then in later post says Korean?

If you can't get his ethnicity right then your conspiracy theory is shit to!
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Well the name sounds Chinese, and then I think after reading some more news articles Jonny Blaze realized he was Korean.

So what?
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First you said Chinese and then in later post says Korean?

If you can't get his ethnicity right then your conspiracy theory is shit to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20585037


Well the name sounds Chinese, and then I think after reading some more news articles Jonny Blaze realized he was Korean.

So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513811


Yeah. If the poster actually read the thread...another poster corrected me and said the guy was Korean. I don't know what nationality he is. It's not that important to me right now.

I hope the ac isn't actually being paid to debunk on this site. If so, it's obvious the debunkers aren't selected based on intellect or thoroughness.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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First you said Chinese and then in later post says Korean?

If you can't get his ethnicity right then your conspiracy theory is shit to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20585037


Well the name sounds Chinese, and then I think after reading some more news articles Jonny Blaze realized he was Korean.

So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513811


Well, its like saying James Holmes is an African American instead of a Caucasian American.

So the shooters were 2 African American males...

So what?
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First you said Chinese and then in later post says Korean?

If you can't get his ethnicity right then your conspiracy theory is shit to!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20585037


Well the name sounds Chinese, and then I think after reading some more news articles Jonny Blaze realized he was Korean.

So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20513811


Well, its like saying James Holmes is an African American instead of a Caucasian American.

So the shooters were 2 African American males...

So what?
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Lol. Really? It's like that? So you can tell Koreans from Chinese all day long, huh?

Same as telling an African from a Caucasian ain't it? dumbass
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It's like stating the 9/11 hijackers were Israelis instead of Saudis.

So what?

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