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Theory: Aurora attack originally called for two patsys

 
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You are far too intelligent and coherent to have ever been under psychiatric medications.

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Clearly you are not a psychologist.
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Far too coherent and intelligent to have ever been on any of those psychiatric medications?
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I also believe from personal experience that once you break, if it is caught in time to spare the brain damage that extended psychosis causes, if you are able to recover...

...it is exponentially harder for a strong willed person to break again assuming that one avoids drug use and is able to by will alone enforce the necessary routines of eating and sleeping.
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If only half my patients could end up with a fraction of your overall recovery, I would sleep better at night.

And your theory on this case is highly plausible of what transpired on that day.
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Well, thank you sir.

I would recommend meditation focused on silencing one's internal dialogue. The exercise itself reveals to oneself the compulsion of one's mind, one's concerns and even the priorities that one assigns to them.

And of course it builds up one's will or intent. Learning to exercise one's conscious will over their subconscious mind corrects any problems that exist in the filter that separates left and right side brain functions.

That's just my opinion though based on personal experience. The reliance on mood stabilizers does nothing to strengthen that filter.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Far too coherent and intelligent to have ever been on any of those psychiatric medications?
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English isn't my first or primary language for obvious reasons.

Also I'm using speech to text software, its not entirely accurate.
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Most subliminal programming is in English.

I would encourage Americans to learn a second laguage and internalize it in their daily thought patterns.

You will break the "english" programming.
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Just so the ac's know:

It hardly matters to me whether or not the poster is a psychiatrist.

And I don't particularly care if the sharing of my personal history is the goal of some game being played.

I have no fear of any of this. I am what I am and I look forward to ANY opportunity to exercise my intent on anyone who intends to break me down, assault me, shut me up, or threaten me.

I assume the people out there with sinister intent already know this information. So I waste no time defending it.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Far too coherent and intelligent to have ever been on any of those psychiatric medications?
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English isn't my first or primary language for obvious reasons.

Also I'm using speech to text software, its not entirely accurate.
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Is that why you were so prickly about the confusion about Chinese and Koreans?

You are Chinese or Korean, and a psychologist? Okay, I can believe that.
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Just so the ac's know:

It hardly matters to me whether or not the poster is a psychiatrist.

And I don't particularly care if the sharing of my personal history is the goal of some game being played.

I have no fear of any of this. I am what I am and I look forward to ANY opportunity to exercise my intent on anyone who intends to break me down, assault me, shut me up, or threaten me.

I assume the people out there with sinister intent already know this information. So I waste no time defending it.
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Don't assume anyone looking at this knows anything about you.
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Just so the ac's know:

It hardly matters to me whether or not the poster is a psychiatrist.

And I don't particularly care if the sharing of my personal history is the goal of some game being played.

I have no fear of any of this. I am what I am and I look forward to ANY opportunity to exercise my intent on anyone who intends to break me down, assault me, shut me up, or threaten me.

I assume the people out there with sinister intent already know this information. So I waste no time defending it.
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Agreed.
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Far too coherent and intelligent to have ever been on any of those psychiatric medications?
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English isn't my first or primary language for obvious reasons.

Also I'm using speech to text software, its not entirely accurate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20585037


Is that why you were so prickly about the confusion about Chinese and Koreans?

You are Chinese or Korean, and a psychologist? Okay, I can believe that.
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No, I speak several languages, a master of none of them.
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Just so the ac's know:

It hardly matters to me whether or not the poster is a psychiatrist.

And I don't particularly care if the sharing of my personal history is the goal of some game being played.

I have no fear of any of this. I am what I am and I look forward to ANY opportunity to exercise my intent on anyone who intends to break me down, assault me, shut me up, or threaten me.

I assume the people out there with sinister intent already know this information. So I waste no time defending it.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Don't assume anyone looking at this knows anything about you.
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But what's the use of hiding if everyone knows you are hiding?

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 07/26/2012 01:09 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What about Holmes was supposed to be blown up in his own apt?

He could have been sequestered for days while his apt was wired up by professionals.

(Lots of experts are wondering where he acquired the know-how to build the sophisticated bombs.)

So, Holmes was supposed to escape the theater to his apt......(he was waiting in his car to be driven, the 'chauffeur' never showed up, so he was caught.)

He would open the door and ka-pow....dead. Afterwards, MSM stories would say he was building more bombs to go off.

This would explain why Holmes 'told' the police about the bomb rigged apt,...why would he do that? ........ Holmes may never have told the police about anything, the real perps, (police and higher), lied and said Holmes INFORMED THE POLICE about the bombs.

(The MSM now says the notebook story has completely changed, and now Holmes is reportedly to have told the police about the notebook, not the psychiatric professor as first reported........so it could happen.)

This analysis carries far more weight.......but it's just a theory.

OP, I agree with the two patsies theory and something went wrong and they had to change their story.

Last Edited by Brubaker on 07/29/2012 02:56 PM
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What about Holmes was supposed to be blown up in his own apt?

He could have been sequestered for days while his apt was wired up by professionals.

(Lots of experts are wondering where he acquired the know-how to build the sophisticated bombs.)

So, Holmes was supposed to escape the theater to his apt......(he was waiting in his car to be driven, the 'chauffeur' never showed up, so he was caught.)

He would open the door and ka-pow....dead. Afterwards, MSM stories would say he was building more bombs to go off.

This would explain why Holmes 'told' the police about the bomb rigged apt,...why would he do that? ........ Holmes may never have told the police about anything, the real perps, (police and higher), lied and said Holmes INFORMED THE POLICE about the bombs.

(The MSM now says the notebook story has completely changed, and now Holmes is reportedly to have told the police about the notebook, not the psychiatric professor as first reported........so it could happen.)

This analysis carries far more weight.......but it's just a theory.

OP, I agree with the two patsies theory and something went wrong and they had to change their story.
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It is a good speculation. I too wonder whether or not Holmes actually told the police anything about the apartment being booby trapped.

If he did, then it may have been set up to play out like this: Holmes's MK programming worked, and he waited like a good robot for his arrest and told the cops about his booby trapped apartment. The second patsy (the Korean) may have been programmed to run back to Holmes's apartment. Maybe he was told to rendezvous there after the attack.

There are so many possibilities it is hard to eliminate anything at this point.

What strikes me as VERY suspicious though is that Holmes's personal psychiatrist was the director of student health for the university. THAT IS STRANGE. Regardless of the fact that he is a PHD student, I find it very suspicious that the director would take him as one of a handful of patients she treats personally.

So who are the other patients she treated? Is the Korean student among them? That's what I want to know.

She specialized in schizophrenia...which is similar to how they shatter personalities with MK ultra. Trauma based mind control is very similar.

It is a safe bet that Holmes was involved in an experiment. The odds that a PHD student studying bio markers that indicate mental disorders...and also has a heavy interest in temporal illusions also just happened to flip out and shoot up a theater...well, lets just say this is stranger than fiction.

One thing is for sure...the only way to get answers about this is to take a close look at what was going on in that PHD program.

If the director of the Mental Health Program is Holmes personal psychiatrist, then the criminal prosecution will have little interest in looking into the university's part in all of this....and the defense may have a hard time getting her to testify on Holmes behalf. The defense might not even want her to testify if she plans on telling them that in her professional opinion Holmes was disturbed but legally sane.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Jonny Blaze (OP)

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Hmmm.

Did I read that wrong or did Holmes's psychiatrist, the director of student health services have 6 student patients.

Did I also read correctly that Holmes was 1 of 6 PHD students to get a federal grant?

Is this correct?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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The doctor has an impressive resume and yes, I believe she had 6 students as patients. I'll have to check on her relationship with Holmes.

What struck me as strange immediately upon searching her background is that the doctor has been convicted of handing out prescriptions for valium to her friends.

She probably pled guilty and agreed to treatment. They give a doctor a choice, go for treatment to a special hospital in Atlanta for doctors that have a drug problem, and if you refuse, then you lose your medical license.

Even after she returned to work, the 'medical establishment' would have a lot of control over this doctor because of her crime. Do as we say or lose your license.
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'''''''On Friday, court papers revealed that Holmes was seeing a psychiatrist at the university. But they did not say how long he was seeing Dr. Lynne Fenton and if it was for a mental illness or another problem.
The University of Colorado's website identified Fenton as the medical director of the school's Student Mental Health Services. An online resume listed schizophrenia as one of her research interests and stated that she sees 10 to 15 graduate students a week for medication and psychotherapy, as well as five to 10 patients in her general practice as a psychiatrist.'''''''''
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It does seem rather odd that...as you pointed out...the Doc was reprimanded and allowed to keep her position as director.

Like you say...it would make her more controllable. And, in turn, she is the personal psychiatrist for a PHD student studying the very thing he may have been diagnosed as having.

To me, it is an indication that he was part of some type of experiment the PHD program was running. They would want competent yet black-mailable/controllable people running it to make sure no one gets out of line.

I wonder when Holmes's psychological problems began. Was he diagnosed with anything before he became a part of the PHD program? I speculate that he wasn't. I also speculate that his seeing a psychiatrist, rather the director of student health services at the university, was part of the experiment to monitor the effects.

She, in turn, was being monitored/controlled by someone higher up the food chain.

This reeks of MK Ultra IMO.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It does seem rather odd that...as you pointed out...the Doc was reprimanded and allowed to keep her position as director.

Like you say...it would make her more controllable. And, in turn, she is the personal psychiatrist for a PHD student studying the very thing he may have been diagnosed as having.

To me, it is an indication that he was part of some type of experiment the PHD program was running. They would want competent yet black-mailable/controllable people running it to make sure no one gets out of line.

I wonder when Holmes's psychological problems began. Was he diagnosed with anything before he became a part of the PHD program? I speculate that he wasn't. I also speculate that his seeing a psychiatrist, rather the director of student health services at the university, was part of the experiment to monitor the effects.

She, in turn, was being monitored/controlled by someone higher up the food chain.

This reeks of MK Ultra IMO.
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It reminds me of the Fire Starter MK experiments that started in College, with the 'LSD like' drug that caused the majority of people to kill themselves, yet a minority retained a higher functioning brain.

That's a Stephen King book that has a lot of information in it about black op experiments.
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It does seem rather odd that...as you pointed out...the Doc was reprimanded and allowed to keep her position as director.

Like you say...it would make her more controllable. And, in turn, she is the personal psychiatrist for a PHD student studying the very thing he may have been diagnosed as having.

To me, it is an indication that he was part of some type of experiment the PHD program was running. They would want competent yet black-mailable/controllable people running it to make sure no one gets out of line.

I wonder when Holmes's psychological problems began. Was he diagnosed with anything before he became a part of the PHD program? I speculate that he wasn't. I also speculate that his seeing a psychiatrist, rather the director of student health services at the university, was part of the experiment to monitor the effects.

She, in turn, was being monitored/controlled by someone higher up the food chain.

This reeks of MK Ultra IMO.
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It reminds me of the Fire Starter MK experiments that started in College, with the 'LSD like' drug that caused the majority of people to kill themselves, yet a minority retained a higher functioning brain.

That's a Stephen King book that has a lot of information in it about black op experiments.
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They did play 'fire starter' by Prodigy in the opening ceremony at the Olympics...was that a NWO boast?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Also

Interesting to note the amount of the grant 26,000.

That is coincidentally the legal tax free gifting amount that two parents could give to a child.

Perhaps the parents were the ones behind the grant.
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No shit, good catch bro
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The problem here is that we have to determine whether or not this is the real James Holmes in jail. I don't think that's the same Holmes that was the Ph.D student. 'this' Holmes in jail is a patsy.

The patsy is probably a mental patient of some sort, destined for a lifetime in a mental hospital whether or not he commited this crime, so it will be easy to put him away for life.
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My prediction is that they never reveal what Holmes is currently saying.
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What I'm baffled by is the booby trapped apartment.

Obviously, it was to implicate Holmes. He wasn't going to escape the event no matter what.

However, how was it supposed to be written into the script? Was it meant to supposedly be a diversion from the theater?

My best guess is that it was meant to go off simultaneously with the theater shooting. This may have been the cover story as to why the ambulances weren't at the theater. If it had gone off, it would have been reported as an explosion and a subsequent fire.

Did the building have natural gas heating? I suspect that it did and thus the initial reports would have assumed that it was a natural gas explosion and fire. Of course, then at some point the authorities would have followed the script and determined that it was Holmes's apartment and booby trapped...because he was conditioned to tell them that it was...they were thinking it would have gone off.

But why take the chance that nobody would have opened the door? They said that there were multiple triggers for the bombs. I speculate that since the second patsy escaped, priorities changed and whoever was supposed to detonate the apartment wasn't able to because his/her primary objective changed from blow up the apartment to drop everything and apprehend the second patsy with emphasis on taking him alive.
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I think the bomb was supposed to go off when the music did. It was rigged to a timer

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One of the biggest "tells" that this was made up, is the video footage outside the theater as the people where coming out.

An officer leads a man that has what looks like blood on him outside. Walking very slowly. Give me a break. They practically paused for the camera saying look at this. This guy has blood on him. FFS

A real officer would have been running or dragging the guy to the nearest paramedic.

The people outside after being shot at hundreds of times would have been running like hell from the scene. Cops on scene or not. I would have been running a few blocks away! That's why this is all made up! It's NOT REAL! Not even close to being what a real situation.

No one acted scared at all! They where ACTORS! shitty ones at that.

Another tell, is that EVERYONE has a phone with video on it. With hundreds outside there would have been hundreds of videos on you tube. not just one video. People want to be "the next you tube star" Yet no one cashes in on this opportunity! Really?

After bolting for security, I would have had my camera running the whole time. Then using zoom to film everything, and only coming back when I felt safe.

This WHOLE story is made up....and BULL!


I think James Holmes was a patsy and probably did not kill anyone. He had that south american drug used on him to make him into a zombie and then was told to wait by the car. Then a few cia operatives went into the theater and killed a bunch of innocent people. If real people actually died that day! It was a made for tv news piece! Actors where used....PERIOD!
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Two patsys would have made a lot more sense then one check this out.
Did you ever hear about the bolt cutters?

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