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BREAKING:James Holmes Claiming Amnesia Asks "Why Am I Here"

 
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You can't be serious. Motive - distraction, to shut his dad up, etc. The motives are all over these threads. Why is that even a question you are asking? Read the damn threads.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


read too many of them, and I am not foolish enough to believe that motive. good luck "indigo" pfffff
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Wow, money is the number one motive for everything, but yet that is a foolish motive? LOL. I guess so.
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it wasnt the motive I was describing as foolish.
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If you don't think the motive is foolish, why would you be foolish if you believed it?
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Since you're about to get slammed for being part of the .5% of intelligent, rational thinking people on this thread...

^^^^THIS^^^^^

It is absolutely disgusting the narrow-minded idiocy here. They probably think Manson is a hero, McVeigh was just a poor innocent soul and have shrine memorials to the 9/11 attackers.
 Quoting: La Femme au Feu Rouge 4727082



seriously, it's sad visiting GLP these days with all these threads basically making the suspect out as a victim. If anyone here actually knew someone related to the incident would they sing the same song? As if this were all some big conspiracy to start a DISCUSSION about gun control laws. sad and sickening and shows no respect to the poor victims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


I hope the RIGHT person/people go down for this crime.

It is OUR duty as American citizens to think innocent until proven guilty--OUR DUTY, otherwise may as well be in some commie country.

This is a conspiracy site. Of all people in the USA, people on sites like this SHOULD be talking like we are because it's obvious the SHEEPLE can't/won't do it.

Obviously, we don't get to see all of the evidence, we understand all of that. There is no doubt the means to set someone up for some horrific crime is at certain peoples disposal, so it is our DUTY to question.

It's a conspiracy site and I hate to see OP or others downgraded as people for just questioning. You can get other opinions all over the rest of the net.
 Quoting: D'Light


The sheeple go along with what they are told by the kangaroo-monkey media

they apparently dont have the IQ ability to look deeper
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looking deeper into a bottomless pit does not make you smart
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If he wanted to get away with all this through some insanity plea, why did he turn himself in? Why did he "send a notebook" full of his plans?

None of this makes sense.
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You lot should be locked up. The reason fox and stations/websites like that exist is lunatic like you all looking for things that arent there,

Making up "facts" to suit your warped views. Why does everything have to be the C.I.As fault.

Why the hell would the cia shoot people in a cinema regardless of any upcoming vote.

I look foward to none of the predictions many of you have made coming through and the spin after that
 Quoting: truthet


You're a bit late to the show, your buddies already tried that approach and got run off.
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You're also talking about one specific drug. I am not speaking of drugs, but MK Ultra programming.

Multiple layers are indeed possible when working with an induced DID.

You are also assuming that they use this technology on people that they will dispose of immediately which is also not the case.

They can be called up for multiple reasons and scenarios, over a period of years or a lifetime, to do their bidding that doesn't include destroying the alter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318


So, you think the orange haired sap was developed by MK Ultra, tortured and trained over a course of 20something years, nurtured into being a neuroscientist, and then dropped at the police's feet as a scapegoat and as a highly drugged up man-child (even though you believe that they do not use drugs on MKs...which I've got to tell you is wrong, they haven't gone quite as organic and holistic as they preach). Seems like a wonderful use of resources. While MK may be real, you're not thinking big enough. They don't need to put 20 years of training into someone they're just going to store away in prison. The original neuroscientist may very well be an MK, but the poor doped up fool they have in the courtroom, that's probably some bum off the street.
 Quoting: She Who Shall Not Be Named


You're putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said that.

You've moved on to points that you have made up entirely in your mind.

All I wanted to point out is that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and you don't.

Move on, I'm not interested anymore.
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There ya go. Happy birthday. :)
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You know what I thought of first? He didn't kill himself. The truly nutso ones kill themselves after a mass shooting. Then, of course, I started thinking of others who didn't kill themselves after such a horrific act. Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray. All seemed disoriented, all claimed amnesia at some point, and in at least one of these cases, there is irrefutable evidence of a second shooter who was never even mentioned in official investigations.

We need to be looking at who died in this shooting - very close looks at the victims. Who are they? What do they do for a living? Which ones may have made bad enemies? Also, we all should be paying very VERY close attention to world news in the next few weeks, preferably non-US news outlets. Something smells rotten here to me.
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read too many of them, and I am not foolish enough to believe that motive. good luck "indigo" pfffff
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Wow, money is the number one motive for everything, but yet that is a foolish motive? LOL. I guess so.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


it wasnt the motive I was describing as foolish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


If you don't think the motive is foolish, why would you be foolish if you believed it?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


If you BELIEVE it, then it is final in your mind and there are no other possibilities. Hey I am sorry If I am being a dick about this, it seriously just makes me ill that he is being defended. I can't tell you what you should believe. I like to question things, and I have given thought to what is being spoken of here, it just wreaks of BS to me. One of our intuitions is right, time will tell. Justice for the victims and families of the victims. RIP.
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In the second batman the one inmate claims his stomach hurts and there is a bomb planted in his stomach
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ahhh
 Quoting: She Who Shall Not Be Named


it was a cell phone you fools
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you folks don`t know how programming works....

that`s the problem....

in order for the program to work it has to be simple...

you can not layer it....

cause if you do the mind will pop....

and then anyhting could happen....

the victim can turn on his programmers....

ever seen full metal jacket....

that is what happens when you overdo the program....

the victim turns on his programmer...

people in psy ops know this...

that is why they rely on the kangarro courts....

to clean up the loose ends and make it sheeple edible....
 Quoting: mr...bojangles


You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Do your homework.

A mind controlled person can have MULTIPLE alters that can be called to the front by a simple word being uttered, or...a phone call.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318


alters can be as sophisticated and multi dimensional as you think you are
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Poor 1533318 doesn't even realize they're talking to one.

rex
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bsflag
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I think it was a CIA agent that did the killing (wearing a mask), while Holmes was told to wait in the car.

Think about the sophisticated bombs he had set up in his apartment that were so complicated that it took 2 days to disarm them.

How does some random dude know how to build something like that?

It is no coincidence that this happened less than a week before the UN treaty.
 Quoting: chris999


^

I'm usually in line with the most probable explanation is likely the right one, but you have a point.
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You know what I thought of first? He didn't kill himself. The truly nutso ones kill themselves after a mass shooting. Then, of course, I started thinking of others who didn't kill themselves after such a horrific act. Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray. All seemed disoriented, all claimed amnesia at some point, and in at least one of these cases, there is irrefutable evidence of a second shooter who was never even mentioned in official investigations.

We need to be looking at who died in this shooting - very close looks at the victims. Who are they? What do they do for a living? Which ones may have made bad enemies? Also, we all should be paying very VERY close attention to world news in the next few weeks, preferably non-US news outlets. Something smells rotten here to me.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yeah, did you see my post about Sarah Connors? (Terminator reference). That Jennifer gal that survived Toronto only to die in Aurora.
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I haven't read much of this thread but has it been remembered or mentioned about the police giving drugs to OWS participants earlier

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: shizen


and yeah the "what is this" + "the 'proof' notebook" obviously don't add up. The mailed notebook just makes me remember those perfectly in shape suitcases from 9/11

wonder if this seeming fraudulence will be halted like Kony by those aware enough.
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Wow, money is the number one motive for everything, but yet that is a foolish motive? LOL. I guess so.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


it wasnt the motive I was describing as foolish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


If you don't think the motive is foolish, why would you be foolish if you believed it?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


If you BELIEVE it, then it is final in your mind and there are no other possibilities. Hey I am sorry If I am being a dick about this, it seriously just makes me ill that he is being defended. I can't tell you what you should believe. I like to question things, and I have given thought to what is being spoken of here, it just wreaks of BS to me. One of our intuitions is right, time will tell. Justice for the victims and families of the victims. RIP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


There are a million possibilities. Sometimes people do just snap, of course that is a possibility. I can't explain why I feel so strongly about this, but I can't ignore that I do. Everyone wants justice for everyone involved, which is why we search for truth.
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

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The way he ACTS now is because it's still a big show to him. He is trying to manipulate the people around him. Reality will hit him when the trial is over, he's sentenced, media does not care about him any longer, and he is sitting in his tiny cell all lonely waiting for death.

He did it. He's a sick fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4609409


On that adult friends site he was on, I read it was posted, "will you visit me in prison?" You have to be shit for brains crazy to plan what he did so he could throw his life away in prison. Great plan.
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You know what I thought of first? He didn't kill himself. The truly nutso ones kill themselves after a mass shooting. Then, of course, I started thinking of others who didn't kill themselves after such a horrific act. Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray. All seemed disoriented, all claimed amnesia at some point, and in at least one of these cases, there is irrefutable evidence of a second shooter who was never even mentioned in official investigations.

We need to be looking at who died in this shooting - very close looks at the victims. Who are they? What do they do for a living? Which ones may have made bad enemies? Also, we all should be paying very VERY close attention to world news in the next few weeks, preferably non-US news outlets. Something smells rotten here to me.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yeah, did you see my post about Sarah Connors? (Terminator reference). That Jennifer gal that survived Toronto only to die in Aurora.
 Quoting: D'Light


They will never ever get it i fear!

do you get it?
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I haven't read much of this thread but has it been remembered or mentioned about the police giving drugs to OWS participants earlier

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: shizen


and yeah the "what is this" + "the 'proof' notebook" obviously don't add up. The mailed notebook just makes me remember those perfectly in shape suitcases from 9/11

wonder if this seeming fraudulence will be halted like Kony by those aware enough.
 Quoting: shizen


I can seriously see a bunch of B movie writers getting together and coming up with that one. "We have no evidence, what do we do?" "Plant a notebook full of evidence after the fact!" "Brilliant"

lol
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You're also talking about one specific drug. I am not speaking of drugs, but MK Ultra programming.

Multiple layers are indeed possible when working with an induced DID.

You are also assuming that they use this technology on people that they will dispose of immediately which is also not the case.

They can be called up for multiple reasons and scenarios, over a period of years or a lifetime, to do their bidding that doesn't include destroying the alter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318


So, you think the orange haired sap was developed by MK Ultra, tortured and trained over a course of 20something years, nurtured into being a neuroscientist, and then dropped at the police's feet as a scapegoat and as a highly drugged up man-child (even though you believe that they do not use drugs on MKs...which I've got to tell you is wrong, they haven't gone quite as organic and holistic as they preach). Seems like a wonderful use of resources. While MK may be real, you're not thinking big enough. They don't need to put 20 years of training into someone they're just going to store away in prison. The original neuroscientist may very well be an MK, but the poor doped up fool they have in the courtroom, that's probably some bum off the street.
 Quoting: She Who Shall Not Be Named


You're putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said that.

You've moved on to points that you have made up entirely in your mind.

All I wanted to point out is that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and you don't.

Move on, I'm not interested anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318


There ya go. Happy birthday. :)
 Quoting: She Who Shall Not Be Named


If you would take your head out of your ass for one second, you would understand that I am talking about MK Ultra programming, NOT James Holmes, you fucking idiot.

Show me one instance where I connected James Holmes to MK Ultra. Bet you can't.

Way to make an ass out of yourself...TWICE.

Not only do you not know what the fuck you are talking about, you make shit up to divert attention away from that FACT. Nice try.

Done with you.
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Amnesia... yeah right.
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If you would take your head out of your ass for one second, you would understand that I am talking about MK Ultra programming, NOT James Holmes, you fucking idiot.

Show me one instance where I connected James Holmes to MK Ultra. Bet you can't.

Way to make an ass out of yourself...TWICE.

Not only do you not know what the fuck you are talking about, you make shit up to divert attention away from that FACT. Nice try.

Done with you.
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If you want to talk about MK Ultra and NOT James Holmes, why don't you come join us in the MK Ultra thread instead of in the James Holmes thread where the topic is indeed "drum roll* James Holmes? There's plenty of room in the Mk Ultra thread. Check your mad dog attitude at the door though please.
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it wasnt the motive I was describing as foolish.
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If you don't think the motive is foolish, why would you be foolish if you believed it?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


If you BELIEVE it, then it is final in your mind and there are no other possibilities. Hey I am sorry If I am being a dick about this, it seriously just makes me ill that he is being defended. I can't tell you what you should believe. I like to question things, and I have given thought to what is being spoken of here, it just wreaks of BS to me. One of our intuitions is right, time will tell. Justice for the victims and families of the victims. RIP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


There are a million possibilities. Sometimes people do just snap, of course that is a possibility. I can't explain why I feel so strongly about this, but I can't ignore that I do. Everyone wants justice for everyone involved, which is why we search for truth.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


fair enough, my apologies for attacking your post specifically. Although I strongly disagree sometimes I got to remind myself not to care so much about what others think. Peace.
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Bottom line: someone planned the attack and framed this kid.

Why?
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Signalling "Aurora. The Dark Knight Rises." As simple as that... the Illuminati bloodlines love this shit. Watch the Olympics.
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I think I might have underestimated young Jimmy...If the jury at his trial is anything like half the commentators here I think he might walk....I hope his lawyer isn't lurking here.
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So far:
1. Gun laws
2. Libor scandel/Holmes father
3. Girl in Toronto/Theater (Sarah Connors killing?)
4. Expirament gone right/wrong
5. Sacrifice to ??? Happens periodically.
6. Ganged stalked/successfully for some reason
 Quoting: D'Light



Which do you think is the answer? I'm trying to sort it out and leaning toward the Libor scandal, it seems the most urgent. But maybe that's what they want us to think...

Okay, my brain gonna explode....
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How do we know the book is in his handwriting?
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If you don't think the motive is foolish, why would you be foolish if you believed it?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


If you BELIEVE it, then it is final in your mind and there are no other possibilities. Hey I am sorry If I am being a dick about this, it seriously just makes me ill that he is being defended. I can't tell you what you should believe. I like to question things, and I have given thought to what is being spoken of here, it just wreaks of BS to me. One of our intuitions is right, time will tell. Justice for the victims and families of the victims. RIP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


There are a million possibilities. Sometimes people do just snap, of course that is a possibility. I can't explain why I feel so strongly about this, but I can't ignore that I do. Everyone wants justice for everyone involved, which is why we search for truth.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


fair enough, my apologies for attacking your post specifically. Although I strongly disagree sometimes I got to remind myself not to care so much about what others think. Peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8243370


Thanks for that.
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You know what I thought of first? He didn't kill himself. The truly nutso ones kill themselves after a mass shooting. Then, of course, I started thinking of others who didn't kill themselves after such a horrific act. Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray. All seemed disoriented, all claimed amnesia at some point, and in at least one of these cases, there is irrefutable evidence of a second shooter who was never even mentioned in official investigations.

We need to be looking at who died in this shooting - very close looks at the victims. Who are they? What do they do for a living? Which ones may have made bad enemies? Also, we all should be paying very VERY close attention to world news in the next few weeks, preferably non-US news outlets. Something smells rotten here to me.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yeah, did you see my post about Sarah Connors? (Terminator reference). That Jennifer gal that survived Toronto only to die in Aurora.
 Quoting: D'Light


They will never ever get it i fear!

do you get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20295459


I doubt I'll ever know for sure.

Sometimes I think some of my posts are only visible to me-LOL
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What can I say? This goes along with the theory of the guy being drugged, his hair dyed and him being thrown in the car as the fall guy.

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: CuriosityCat1


lol

from the story
The suspect remains under 23-hour lockdown, leaving his cell just once a day. Authorities fear that other inmates could target Holmes and have him wear a bulletproof vest during his daily walk.

So are the inmates carrying weapons or why exactly would he need the vest.Where are the guards.
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So far:
1. Gun laws
2. Libor scandel/Holmes father
3. Girl in Toronto/Theater (Sarah Connors killing?)
4. Expirament gone right/wrong
5. Sacrifice to ??? Happens periodically.
6. Ganged stalked/successfully for some reason
 Quoting: D'Light



Which do you think is the answer? I'm trying to sort it out and leaning toward the Libor scandal, it seems the most urgent. But maybe that's what they want us to think...

Okay, my brain gonna explode....
 Quoting: parrotsandwhiskey


I'm leaning towards the old "kill 2 birds with one stone" thing and going with both 1 and 2.

While there were several people with military/intelligence ties, the chick was a sports reporter, specifically hockey. Don't really think she was the target, although it is possible.
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If you would take your head out of your ass for one second, you would understand that I am talking about MK Ultra programming, NOT James Holmes, you fucking idiot.

Show me one instance where I connected James Holmes to MK Ultra. Bet you can't.

Way to make an ass out of yourself...TWICE.

Not only do you not know what the fuck you are talking about, you make shit up to divert attention away from that FACT. Nice try.

Done with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533318


If you want to talk about MK Ultra and NOT James Holmes, why don't you come join us in the MK Ultra thread instead of in the James Holmes thread where the topic is indeed "drum roll* James Holmes? There's plenty of room in the Mk Ultra thread. Check your mad dog attitude at the door though please.
 Quoting: She Who Shall Not Be Named


You're the one that tried to hijack the thread and claim that you can't layer programming, I called that out as complete and utter bullshit and I'm 100% correct. Do I SOUND like I don't know what I'm talking about? I do.

Simple like that. I didn't ask to go into a debate with you, you made a false claim and I called you out. Nothing more nothing less.

Why won't you stick to that discussion and just admit you were wrong? Could it be you don't want others to know that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? I think so.

You are the only one delving into other subjects to make yourself look smart, you're not, and you got busted.
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Devil's breath being blown in the face of victims reminds me of the Scarecrow blowing his psychotropic hallucinogen in people's faces.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.

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