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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19497353 07/26/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They wont just let you sit there in withdrawals if your habit is bad enough, and you request the medical assistance. They WILL give you subs. Trust me, been there, done that. 4 years opiate addict here, and i've been on subs plenty of times. On them now, even. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20513811 07/26/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They wont just let you sit there in withdrawals if your habit is bad enough, and you request the medical assistance. They WILL give you subs. Trust me, been there, done that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497353 4 years opiate addict here, and i've been on subs plenty of times. On them now, even. How many times did you get suboxen in jail? I can cut your little theory short with a lot of personal experience I have. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 19497353 07/26/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They wont just let you sit there in withdrawals if your habit is bad enough, and you request the medical assistance. They WILL give you subs. Trust me, been there, done that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497353 4 years opiate addict here, and i've been on subs plenty of times. On them now, even. How many times did you get suboxen in jail? I can cut your little theory short with a lot of personal experience I have. I have the experience too. Maybe it varies from state to state. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10113059 07/26/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as i said in another post not in colorado they will just toss you in a cell and if you are in ad seg or on suicide watch they will have a guard walk by once an hour but as far as any meds that have any potential for abuse not on your life you can order asprin off commissary at the arapaho jail but he hasnt been there long enough yet to get commissary but suboxen not a chance no way no how source 8 calendars down in the Colorado system Arapaho county included |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 578151 07/26/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is! Here's the skinny: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497353 When he was being processed into the jail, they asked him, like all prisoners, if he has any substance abuse problems, or current addictions. He is DEFINATELY an opiate addict, and he surely told them this, because they are obligated to treat him by law. The most common treatment for this is Suboxone, or Subutex (buperenorphine). When a doctor prescribes this, they ALWAYS set the dosage extremely high, much higher than needed. A person with a daily H habit can actually be set straight with a dose of .2mg of sub. However, doctors disregard this, and always prescribe AT LEAST a full 8mg per dose. This is what leads to the zombie-like state of nodding out, slurred speach, coordination problems, even drooling. So, there really isn't anything mischevious going on, the jail is getting him broken of his addiction just like a doctor would, because they are obligated under the law. Thank you. Makes the most sense from all I have read. Drug withdrawal will cause the sleepy, looking out of it effect. The fact that he is now asking "why am I here" is another question all together. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20719600 07/28/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is! Here's the skinny: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497353 When he was being processed into the jail, they asked him, like all prisoners, if he has any substance abuse problems, or current addictions. He is DEFINATELY an opiate addict, and he surely told them this, because they are obligated to treat him by law. The most common treatment for this is Suboxone, or Subutex (buperenorphine). When a doctor prescribes this, they ALWAYS set the dosage extremely high, much higher than needed. A person with a daily H habit can actually be set straight with a dose of .2mg of sub. However, doctors disregard this, and always prescribe AT LEAST a full 8mg per dose. This is what leads to the zombie-like state of nodding out, slurred speach, coordination problems, even drooling. So, there really isn't anything mischevious going on, the jail is getting him broken of his addiction just like a doctor would, because they are obligated under the law. Thank you. Makes the most sense from all I have read. Drug withdrawal will cause the sleepy, looking out of it effect. The fact that he is now asking "why am I here" is another question all together. Oh here are two people never having anything to do with drugs just reading brainwashing magazines. Go to sleep again.. nothing here for you. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 07/28/2012 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is! Here's the skinny: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497353 When he was being processed into the jail, they asked him, like all prisoners, if he has any substance abuse problems, or current addictions. He is DEFINATELY an opiate addict, and he surely told them this, because they are obligated to treat him by law. The most common treatment for this is Suboxone, or Subutex (buperenorphine). When a doctor prescribes this, they ALWAYS set the dosage extremely high, much higher than needed. A person with a daily H habit can actually be set straight with a dose of .2mg of sub. However, doctors disregard this, and always prescribe AT LEAST a full 8mg per dose. This is what leads to the zombie-like state of nodding out, slurred speach, coordination problems, even drooling. So, there really isn't anything mischevious going on, the jail is getting him broken of his addiction just like a doctor would, because they are obligated under the law. Thank you. You are wrong on so many levels. First of all, not everyone can come even CLOSE to being stabilized on .2mg of subs. I was on subs for a year, after a $300/day habit. For the first TWO WEEKS, 8mg wasn't even enough. My body was still going through utter HELL, and having been through every opiate there is so many times, I have tried various doses in the past. For me, I needed 8mg DAILY for about 2 weeks, than I could lower to 6mg daily, and eventually 2mg daily. NOTHING less than 2mg daily would hold me, without me being extremely sick. The ONLY thing you were right about, is that suboxone doses are OFTEN prescribed higher than needed.....but you weren't even right about that, because you said ALWAYS. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. Some docs/addiction specialists DO know what they are doing, and do it right. Also, they already said, he wasn't put on ANY medication while in the jail. I don't know what country/state you live in......but in Georgia, USA , when you go to jail, no matter HOW MUCH DOPE you are addicted to, how BAD it is......opiate withdrawal is almost NEVER life threatening, and therefore you NEVER get put on narcotics (sube is a narcotic as well, yet) while in Jail. They just DON'T do it. You could be on 100mg of methadone, and you won't get ANYTHING while in jail but maybe bendryl and aleve. You will be put in a special part of the jail, for inmates who need medical attention, or on suicide watch. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20717909 07/28/2012 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's probably the effect of the "truth" drug, the one the police might have given him so he'll tell them about the booby traps in his place. That is probably how the cops got the info out of him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13900649 yep. and he look so tired cuz cops interrogated him Gitmo style for three days |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18116960 07/28/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I can say is that he was DEFINITELY DRUGGED, and drugged a LOT, and he couldn't have faked his eyes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106 I don't know drugged on what though... How you can definitely say he was druged? He is a son of shit why do you want hem look like a nice guy how was druged? I realy cant understand you about this. He is shit dont treated him like he was not aware what he is doing. |
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