BREAKING UN ARMS Teaty FINAL Doctrine just released

I say we all stand against this bill as it violates our 2nd ammendment.

There is no flaw in my logic. This is and has been all about the money made on illegal arms sales that our DIB cant afford to lose. They are rousing up the gun owners of america with lies about the potential impact of this treaty to turn it in to a huge political nightmare for anyone. All they care about is their own pockets. Nothing in this treaty says that your second amendment rights will be infringed upon. It is an attempt to stop the illegal sale of small to large arms to terrorist states (countries) in an effort to stop mass killings that have been going on for some time now. If I (a gun owning and conceal carry american) can see this treaty for what it is, i would hope that you could see through the political bs too. No one, and i mean NO ONE, will ever take away my guns without someones blood being spilled. I just think that the hype around this serves no one but corporate interests. Think about how our furor about the attempt to stop the sale of arms to terrorists looks to the rest of the world? How can we as a nation, in the middle of a "war on terror", not support an international treaty that seeks to remove the steady supply of arms to the people we are fighting and dying from?

I fully support the right of every american to legally own and carry arms, but refuse to buy the politicians efforts to stop this treaty as a good thing for you, me or this country. They are only serving their owners, and it sure isnt the American people.

[link to iapcar.org] us gun treaty final document want all are guns

1. This Treaty shall apply to all conventional arms within the following categories:

- a. Battle Tanks

- b. Armored combat vehicles

- c. Large-caliber Artillery systems

- d. Combat aircraft

- e. Attack helicopters

- f. Warships

- g. Missiles and missile launchers

- h. Small Arms and Light Weapons




Where the hell am i supposed to get my tanks and warships now?!

The whole thing look pretty harmless to me. It looks like it still protects the right to lawfully have guns.

We will see how it goes though.

Sure, i'll stand with you, right after you explain how this actually violates our second amendment rights.

This. All you tough guys are not going to say no to 10+ men with full auto and body armor.



Apathy and ignorance by the people combined with surprise and overwhelming force = buy-bye 2nd...

Also, I get a kick out of all these people screaming - 'they won't take my guns' but didn't give a shit about the patriot act or NDAA.

Only the 2nd amendment is worth getting upset about?

Bet you money they use this bullshit to try and make people register their weapons, just ask the Germans what comes after registration...

Your guns won't make any difference when they start shooting the crowds with drones.

I'm honestly sick of reading dumb comments like this. It's really easy to say something stupid like this on an online forum, these people are incredibly smart. Try saying "you may not have my firearm" when a team of armed federal agents, newly empowered by some international treaty, come to dispossess you of all your guns. With the full power of the law behind them. Are you going to pick that moment to die? Because they're sure as hell not gonna die. In their mind, they're merely enforcing the law, they have the full law behind them, and they can simply claim you were "resisting".

This is no joking matter or time for empty platitudes. This is very real and very dangerous. I honestly have no idea how to beat it. Once evil has the law behind it, we are quite literally going to be facing life or death choices.

It's a sad day in America when so many are unwilling to take a stand, unwilling to defend their inalienable rights, and unwilling to defend their liberty and freedom. They feel they have no power over evil and are willing to embrace it before resisting it. Yes, I may die, but I will do so with honor and for what's right and just. I am not a coward, I do not fear evil, and I will never cower in fear of it, no matter what laws it passes or treaties it signs in an effort to legitimize itself.

Actually, we don't want you to bother yourself with standing for anything. Sit on your fat ass and suck your thumb.