Feminists Protest at the Veil in Olympic Games. | |
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Charlie Scene User ID: 15739868 United States 07/26/2012 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait, so the women wanted to wear the veil? The olypmics complied, and the feminists are mad? Wouldn't the feminists be happy that the women won the right to have a choice in the matter? Instead of the olympic committee deciding for them one way or the other? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8846775 United States 07/26/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm... I mean, I don't see anything Wong with them wearing veils, but if it's in e Olympic rules, then they should not be allowed twhere them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 BUT, if they choose to enforce the rules and ban the veiled, they must also ban things like crosses, and I bet you many people wear crosses |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20139627 France 07/26/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm... I mean, I don't see anything Wong with them wearing veils, but if it's in e Olympic rules, then they should not be allowed twhere them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8846775 BUT, if they choose to enforce the rules and ban the veiled, they must also ban things like crosses, and I bet you many people wear crosses I don't think so as all demonstration of politic or religious belief is banned, so........ no cross. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20380339 United Kingdom 07/26/2012 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what they say, but its hard to prove. Fact of the matter is, the Koran does not require a woman to wear a veil. Technically speaking its a persian tradition and not a muslim one, but meh. Personally speaking i think, the veil can be a sign of oppression, but it is not always so. |
Charlie Scene User ID: 15739868 United States 07/26/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what they say, but its hard to prove. Fact of the matter is, the Koran does not require a woman to wear a veil. Technically speaking its a persian tradition and not a muslim one, but meh. Personally speaking i think, the veil can be a sign of oppression, but it is not always so. That's the impression I get when I see a woman in a veil... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20380339 United Kingdom 07/26/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what they say, but its hard to prove. Fact of the matter is, the Koran does not require a woman to wear a veil. Technically speaking its a persian tradition and not a muslim one, but meh. Personally speaking i think, the veil can be a sign of oppression, but it is not always so. That's the impression I get when I see a woman in a veil... Me too, but it depends on the veil. By veil im assuming most people mean full coverings of everything. AKA the Niqab. I do think some women wearing the veil as part of a costume like say a belly dancing dress are clearly not oppressed. In a desert like environment sometimes a face covering is desirable and indeed practical because of the dust and strength of the sun. |
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Charlie Scene User ID: 15739868 United States 07/26/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what they say, but its hard to prove. Fact of the matter is, the Koran does not require a woman to wear a veil. Technically speaking its a persian tradition and not a muslim one, but meh. Personally speaking i think, the veil can be a sign of oppression, but it is not always so. That's the impression I get when I see a woman in a veil... Me too, but it depends on the veil. By veil im assuming most people mean full coverings of everything. AKA the Niqab. I do think some women wearing the veil as part of a costume like say a belly dancing dress are clearly not oppressed. In a desert like environment sometimes a face covering is desirable and indeed practical because of the dust and strength of the sun. True |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20139627 France 07/26/2012 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously you're not used to see veiled women in your streets... Am I wrong ? You do not think it's is a symbol of oppression? YES it is a symbol of oppression for me, also a symbol of refusal of the outer world, of other people. It is only used by extreme religious people and they try to impose us their culture (and religion), this is wrong. |
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Hanifa User ID: 21089555 Lebanon 08/01/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U can't judie wether a woman wearing the veil is oppressed or not. And it is not upon anyone to decide. You can't understand the veil given you haven't lived in Muslim countries. The veil is an obligation from god for Muslim women, but not as a means to oppress women, but rather as a way to lessen the ego and encourage modesty. Both men and women are required to dress in a certain way in islam, so not just men. By wearing the veil, the focus is shifted from the women's body towards her personality and intellectuality, towards dealing with her as a human being, rather than just a body. In addition, each woman is free as to whether to wear the veil or not. Not only this, each Muslim is free whether to obey god or not. Each Muslim is free and no one, not even god, can impose on Muslim to obey him. Each Muslim has a choice whether to practice Islam or not. Now, if certain countries like Iran and Saudi oblige women to wear the veil, and thus they are oppressing women, it doesn't mean that it ia Islam that ia oppressing women. These are oppressing regimes. An by the way, these women when they go outside their countries for vacation choose to be unveiled. There are plenty of women who have worn the veil out of free choice. I come from a Muslim family, I got my school existing from a French Protestant school, went to an American university for my MBA and studies the bible during my school years. I chose to wear te veil. No member of my family wears it, I chose it because I had the complete freedom to do so. What's the difference between a lady who chooses to cover with another one who chooses to uncover? Why the veil has been given so much energy to argue around? Why are feminist so concerned about the veil? I believe they should be proud of these veiled ladies participating in the Olympics. This is real feminism. They went against the will of their regimes to participate in an activity, the the religious scholars of their countries consider as inconvenient for women. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145382 United States 08/01/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait, so the women wanted to wear the veil? The olypmics complied, and the feminists are mad? Quoting: Charlie Scene Wouldn't the feminists be happy that the women won the right to have a choice in the matter? Instead of the olympic committee deciding for them one way or the other? Actually I'm surprised that feminists protested. Most of them are afraid to criticize Islam and so fall back on the term 'agency' meaning every woman is free to decide what they want to do. Sometimes Liberals politically correct themselves right into a corner. So, regardless of what feminists think of the veil, the burka, etc. they usually don't say anything about it because when it comes to speaking out against Muslims they just don't want to touch the subject. |