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Well well...it seems the MSM is nudging toward my assesment/theory of James Holmes the Aurora shooter.

 
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I absolutely agree! ...I merely used the "MKUltra" term as one that is commonly thrown around. Was not specifically referencing.

I do not think this was a directed event on the down to earth level but rather perhaps one of remote influence...

With perhaps a little real world "guidance" involved?

A lot of very suspicious uncanny links and buried meanings surrounding this whole thing that it just screams of something bigger.
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Could be....there was something influencing this kid, that's for sure in any case...

Maybe we'll get to read his "notebook" which was sent...if it's to be believed by the time we see it, if we do...could be more insight contained in that than anywhere else.

I don't know how much I would believe what is going to come from him now that he's been caught...he is smart enough, maybe not a super genus, but he does have knowledge in the psych field and he may very well "fuck with" peoples heads...who knows what he'll have to say going forward or how true any of it will be.
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Could be he has alter if his "amnesia" is to be believed?

Sending a notebook detailing plans drawn/written by oneself as while not themselves to arrive after the fact seems like something an alter would do...
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The suspect in the Colorado theater rampage was seeing a University of Colorado psychiatrist who studies schizophrenia, according to court records released Friday, indicating for the first time that university officials were familiar with James Holmes's mental state...

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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I would guess all psychiatrists study schizophrenia as SOP. This woman was head of the mental-health services at the college so it's likely she would have been first contact and whether he made that contact, was sent to her and at what level of "why", we just don't know right now. From what I have heard some people say?...if any student at Holmes' level was on the verge or in process of bombing out of the program...the whole Neuroscience "community" at the school would rally in for intervention and the college itself would do whatever it could to turn the kid around. So going to this psychiatrist may have been part of a more or less standard procedure, it may have been more, but we do not know at this time.
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Interesting. [link to news.yahoo.com]
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Yup...more of the same...

I wonder how many suicides fit the same profile?...I would bet even more than shootings. It's got to be a fairly close line between just merely killing yourself and upping it to the next level and taking others with you. Most of these killers I would guess thought the odds were pretty high that they would get killed once they engaged in shooting...higher than 50-50 at least.

I've read some of the Russel stuff BTW...frikkin psycho mastermind NWO loon. I'll write a reply to your other longer response sometime later.
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Could be....there was something influencing this kid, that's for sure in any case...

Maybe we'll get to read his "notebook" which was sent...if it's to be believed by the time we see it, if we do...could be more insight contained in that than anywhere else.

I don't know how much I would believe what is going to come from him now that he's been caught...he is smart enough, maybe not a super genus, but he does have knowledge in the psych field and he may very well "fuck with" peoples heads...who knows what he'll have to say going forward or how true any of it will be.
 Quoting: SHR


Could be he has alter if his "amnesia" is to be believed?

Sending a notebook detailing plans drawn/written by oneself as while not themselves to arrive after the fact seems like something an alter would do...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

The suspect in the Colorado theater rampage was seeing a University of Colorado psychiatrist who studies schizophrenia, according to court records released Friday, indicating for the first time that university officials were familiar with James Holmes's mental state...

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185


I would guess all psychiatrists study schizophrenia as SOP. This woman was head of the mental-health services at the college so it's likely she would have been first contact and whether he made that contact, was sent to her and at what level of "why", we just don't know right now. From what I have heard some people say?...if any student at Holmes' level was on the verge or in process of bombing out of the program...the whole Neuroscience "community" at the school would rally in for intervention and the college itself would do whatever it could to turn the kid around. So going to this psychiatrist may have been part of a more or less standard procedure, it may have been more, but we do not know at this time.
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True... but that doesn't negate the correlation only weakens the odds some that there is one.

Schizophrenia according to what I have read seems to be a specialty of this particular shrink...

"Fenton, who has served as mental-health services medical director since 2009, has conducted numerous research projects in the area of schizophrenia."

The question would then be whether or not he was regular patient of hers or just had a few sessions ...and if so how far back do these sessions go?

Also... what originally brought him to her?

"Michael Carrigan, chairman of the University of Colorado regents, said he couldn’t comment on Holmes in particular and said he didn’t know what might have brought him to the attention of the BETA team."

Were they alerted by his behavior or a drop in academic performance? or did he seek out help?
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...of course you already asked these questions ;)
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Interesting. [link to news.yahoo.com]
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Yup...more of the same...

I wonder how many suicides fit the same profile?...I would bet even more than shootings. It's got to be a fairly close line between just merely killing yourself and upping it to the next level and taking others with you. Most of these killers I would guess thought the odds were pretty high that they would get killed once they engaged in shooting...higher than 50-50 at least.

I've read some of the Russel stuff BTW...frikkin psycho mastermind NWO loon. I'll write a reply to your other longer response sometime later.
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Nobel prize winning psycho. Bingo, SHR. The programs that some of the shooters were in or were possibly in also is noted as having a statistically higher suicide and drug/alcohol abuse rate. Of course, they say that getting an actual number isn't possible but it must be fairly significant because they modified the program to deal with it.

This is not to say that every child that was passed through these special education programs is a possible mass murderer. On the contrary, even if every mass shooter was one, it would still be an extremely low percentage of these kids, lower than 1%. The issue is that some of these kids were most likely on the verge of cracking due to predisposing factors. In at least one case, the program may have actually became a part of their schizophrenic ideations.

It's hard to say what is going on but like I said, fine line between genius (or superior IQ) and madness seems to be a prevalent theme so far. Information, particularly academic information, is really hard to come by for a lot of these kids as far as whether they were in a special education program or not. The whole thing stinks to high heaven though.

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The children are a reflection of society.

Everyone is broken to a degree but occassionally we see a real physical manifestation of the catastrophic failings of society as a whole, with people like Holmes, Cho, etc. Whilst I agree with your thoughts SHR you got to trace this back to where we went wrong.. it started with the post-WW2 generation, the Baby Boomers. Not saying it is their fault, they were the product of a system, nothing more and nothing less, but that is when this rampant narcissism really started. The boomers children are even worse.. they have inherited their parents character flaws and also been subjected to a fucked up society largely shaped by the Boomers.

I do disagree when you say Holmes made the choice. People are FAR more robotic than you realize. This is essentially why "law" is bullshit, how can you pin blame on someone who is merely a robot and lacks real will? We are programmed by society, by our parents, by school and media. Holmes is the unlucky manifestation focal point of these perverse and inverse institutions.

Whilst he should be locked away as he is clearly a dangerous individual (or just put out of his misery), people really need to understand that he is NOT vermin/evil.. he is you.. he is me.. he is society/culture. We need to see the real evil here and that is our society itself. We love the "good guys vs the bad guys", cops and robbers, us and them, because it means we don't have to acknowledge the fact that we create these people. We're all responsible because we all feed the culture that spawned their mental confusion.

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Our society is heading for a catastrophic collapse within my generation unless we reverse the perverted vector we're currently on. We're addicted to pleasure and false idols, chasing implanted dreams that we have no hope of realizing. We need to get back to what is real in life; our health and each other.

ps I'm 25 and the child of 2 boomers.
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Is this thread some kind of a joke? Trinity managed to take this shooting and used it to espouse an archaic rant about people not learning trades, and even managed to throw in the video games and porn into there!

Jeez, did anyone else not notice how silly this thread is! Videogames and porn! Way to use the tired reactionary culprits, that people have been using as boogey men. What's next, blaming loud rock music?
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the shootings are gov stagged false flag events
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THAT being that there are going to be more of these episodes and that they are going to increase in frequency, which indeed they are, because there is a "system" in place that is creating the perfect storm for the creation of perpetrators.

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THAT being that there are going to be more of these episodes and that they are going to increase in frequency, which indeed they are, because there is a "system" in place that is creating the perfect storm for the creation of perpetrators.

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SHR's "assessment" is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. He can't be serious.

What in the fuck are you clapping about?
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