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It never says that you will be doing this on your own effort, not by work but by Grace of God. Like fire that tests the purity of Gold so does Life tests our purity.

I am not Christian but I have tremendous respect for Christ teachings, it's just sad to see so many who considers themselves devout followers of Christ identify themselves as Christians. What Christ came to do was to abolish religion and all the earthly principalities, he did not come to invent new religion., that's why he was so hated by the Pharisees and rest of learned elders of Zion. He came to free people from the bondage not put them under the yoke of another law.

The problem is religions like Christianity itself was invented by people who were interpreting Christ words with carnal minds, they had eyes but could not see, and ear but could not hear the truth that his teachings contained.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


I think He did come to change things radically..as to wether this message has been understood by all who claim they do remains to be seen..or rather is a metter of opinion
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Truth is not matter of opinion, for example when I look at the Sun it might appear as if Sun sets or rises depending on the time of observation, but Sun itself neither rises nor sets and it's behavior is not influenced in any way by my opinion or perception.

So truth has no respect for opinions and there is only one way how you can discern the truth from lie and that is by questioning it and putting it under test of your skepticism through experiments. As opposite lies sooner or later fails the test. That's why bible says

1 Thessalonians 5:21 "but test everything; hold fast what is good."

1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Understanding only comes through experience, and once truth about something is understood you won't fall to the trap of ignorance again.

It's not truth that sets man truly free, but understanding. For even if you knew something to be truth but you did not understand it, you might end up doing the same mistake again...it's only through understanding you stop doing same mistakes again.
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Some good words there m8. Does that apply to EVERYONE tho? since they don't all believe in the bible as being the word of god?

Even tho i don't believe the bible to be the "true word of god" it is definitely some good words to learn from.
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I did not grow up in christian family actually quite opposite I grew up in family where my dad was agnostic and my mom devoted muslim. To be honest I was never really interested in knowing God, whether God did exist or did not exist it was pretty much same for me, but it was after experiencing things that I couldn't really any longer explain with my traditional "seeing is believing" mindset. I was simply looking for answers to explain what I had experienced, not to find Christ or what bible had to say. In fact in school to me it never made sense how suffering and death of one man could possibly work out as a salvation to save all mankind, that you really don't need to do anything else other than just be "re-born" and believe that Jesus was son of God.

In bible it says "Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Notice it says that unless one is BORN AGAIN he cannot SEE the Kingdom of God.

then later in...

Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Being born again does not mean you right away will ENTER the Kingdom of God, but that you are able to PERCEIVE it! In order to ENTER the Kingdom you have to be transformed into Christ-like, and that is what you are here to do, anyone who want to inherit the promises given to them by God will have to prove himself/herself by drinking from the same Cup that Jesus did, and eventually everyone will be proving themselves worthy of entering but each on their own tun. That's why it is said:

"it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for rich man to enter the kingdom of God" rich man here is metaphor for man who has many possessions and they don't need to be just physical but anything that man is attached to and is afraid to lose.

So my friend you don't have to believe that bible is the word of God just like I didn't believe at beginning, and even now I can see that Bible is very misunderstood book of great spiritual insight and wisdom, but let your personal experiences and your intuition to discern the truth from the false.

I hope I have answered your question and also hope that I haven't bore you with long comment, I just wanted to give little background info about me to use as relevance.

There is saying that it's better to teach man to fish than give them fish, so here is website I warmly recommend to check.

[link to www.godfire.net]

I would like to finish my comments with following verse...

Luke 6:32-35 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them...But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."

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Luke 6:32-35 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them...But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."

So beautiful and powerful. I want to memorize this verse.
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Luke 6:32-35 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them...But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."

So beautiful and powerful. I want to memorize this verse.
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that is Christ..you can almost see Him when you read those words..the power..the wisdom..the strength..the goodness..the love
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Everyone has the choice to be love. Only a few choose to be love.
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Everyone has the choice to be love. Only a few choose to be love.
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And God was not one of them.

Or how else would you explain him slaughtering innocent kids and abort women solely based on what their government did?
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The oil in the lamps is not love.
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In what i believe, just because we are locked in our own individual bodies, we are all still connected. If one person does something wrong, or classified evil, that's just the way life is. The magic number is 2 because that is how everything is, male+female, positive + negative polarities, light dark. It is all one, without a negative there wouldn't be a positive. I like the quote from William Shakespeare....

"There is no such thing as good or bad, but thinking makes it so"
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I would rather say Freedom of Choice rather than Free Will, for we really have no free will but freedom of choice, so we can choose but we cannot escape the consequences of our choice.

To grow and evolve we need both negative and positive, both the existence of good and evil are necessary, pain and suffering as hard it might be to accept are necessary for our growth, let me ask you something which experience has usually been the one that has pushed you toward change and growth? was it positive experience or negative one? Most likely it was the negative one.

But this does not mean that negative experience is Good in itself, or that there is no such thing as good and bad I used to think this way too but now I realize that is not true, you see the dark force will use the painful experience to further you away from that which is good and God, while God itself uses that experience to transform you and for good.

In bible it says Genesis 50:20 "As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today."

That's why we perceive so much negativity around us, all the sickness, the wars, the pain and suffering...there is deliberate push behind it by the TPTB to create as unfavorable environment as possible to stop our growth and further us away from God and that which is Good.

There will come the time when those who are disposed for Light will be separated from those who will be disposed for Darkness and this is called Time of Harvest.

If you have noticed ever since 9/11 2001 the world has turned into more and more negative place to live in, this is not by accident, the destroying of Twin Towers, symbolically representing Duality of number 11, 11 is master number in numerology and it symbolizes both vision and duality, this was the symbolic meaning behind the destruction of Twin Towers, the beginning of the end of World of Duality where both Good and Bad reside and the birth of One world Government where there exist only Darkness and Evil.

The 2012 and Mayan prophesies has gained great coverage from MSM the film industry etc. There are two prominent views of what the end of 2012 will mean one is promoted by the Doomsday advocates that it will mark the end of the world, the much anticipated Apocalypse (Apocalypse itself does not mean Destruction, but rather Revelation) and another one is prominent among the New-Age advocates who believes that 2012 will mark the beginning of the Golden age of Enlightenment, they are both very mistaken, it won't be the end of the world (in physical sense) but end of the old world and beginning of the new, it won't be also beginning of the Golden Age for the harvest itself is negative, so what does end of the 2012 means? It means the beginning of the new World much anticipated by the TPTB, they know nothing can be done anymore to stop them, and even if one could they know people won't.

I don't know if you have personally noticed but lately it is as if even those who are disposed to do good and be unselfish has been surrounded by very painful negative experiences even if they keep thinking positively and expect all good it appears as if they are no longer in control of their reality, the reason behind this is Divine Intervention. It's to break you free from the illusion that you are creating your own worlds with your thoughts, yes thoughts are creative but you are not in control of your reality. The second reason is to prepare you for that which is about to come, like in army you are put under pressure and discipline so you could make it in battlefield. The world is going to turn into such a mess and painful place to dwell in that it will push your integrity and faith to utmost limits...
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I dont ascribe to the 2012 mythology..

Why should I take note to what Mayans wrote? If they got things so right how come their empire is dust?
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As to apocalypse..it is a positive term..some movies have turned it into something to be feared..but if we are of God..then it is His Time..aka our Time..

As to the New World Order coming in 2012..I find that funny considering that in my opinion its been in place for a very very long time
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Everyone has the choice to be love. Only a few choose to be love.
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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
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It never says that you will be doing this on your own effort, not by work but by Grace of God. Like fire that tests the purity of Gold so does Life tests our purity.

I am not Christian but I have tremendous respect for Christ teachings, it's just sad to see so many who considers themselves devout followers of Christ identify themselves as Christians. What Christ came to do was to abolish religion and all the earthly principalities, he did not come to invent new religion., that's why he was so hated by the Pharisees and rest of learned elders of Zion. He came to free people from the bondage not put them under the yoke of another law.

The problem is religions like Christianity itself was invented by people who were interpreting Christ words with carnal minds, they had eyes but could not see, and ear but could not hear the truth that his teachings contained.
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


I think He did come to change things radically..as to wether this message has been understood by all who claim they do remains to be seen..or rather is a metter of opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


Truth is not matter of opinion, for example when I look at the Sun it might appear as if Sun sets or rises depending on the time of observation, but Sun itself neither rises nor sets and it's behavior is not influenced in any way by my opinion or perception.

So truth has no respect for opinions and there is only one way how you can discern the truth from lie and that is by questioning it and putting it under test of your skepticism through experiments. As opposite lies sooner or later fails the test. That's why bible says

1 Thessalonians 5:21 "but test everything; hold fast what is good."

1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

Understanding only comes through experience, and once truth about something is understood you won't fall to the trap of ignorance again.

It's not truth that sets man truly free, but understanding. For even if you knew something to be truth but you did not understand it, you might end up doing the same mistake again...it's only through understanding you stop doing same mistakes again.
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I wont come here and say what I write is Truth..I respect peoples opinion..and so I say its my opinion for that very reason
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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
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THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...

NOT THE WAY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR MARY LEFT THAT WAY OF DECEIT LONG AGO... THEY CALLED HER THE WHORE WHEN IT IS THE WHORE IN WHICH THEY SERVE...

SOPHIA THE MOTHER OF DARKNESS... THE MOTHER OF SATAN... THE LINE OF THE ROYALS THROUGH CAESAR...

THE ROMANS... AND THEIR GREED AND DECEPTION...

DO NOT LET YOUR HEART DECEIVE YOU... THE WORD LOVE IS NOT THE LOVE OF THE HEART...

THE WORD LOVE... LIFE'S ONE FAMILY EVERYONE... TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER IS THE UNITY OF FAMILY...

THE FAMILY OF CHRIST... THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL ONE UNDERSTAND THE LOVE OF THE HEART...

TRUE LOVE OF THE HEART...

THE WORD HEART... HERE EVERYONE ACCEPTS RIGHTEOUS TRUTH... THIS LOVE IS UNDENIABLE...

THINKING AND KNOWING ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS...

KNOWING CASTS THE OUT THE DOUBT ONE HAS IN HIS HEART...

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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
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THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
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THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
 Quoting: wildhoney


NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...

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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
 Quoting: wildhoney


THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
 Quoting: wildhoney


NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...
 Quoting: CELT1


I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
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THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
 Quoting: wildhoney


NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...
 Quoting: CELT1


I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
 Quoting: wildhoney


The torment of having known Love made flesh..and then it left..and to be left with this fallen world ..but they lived their lives true to Him to untill their last breath..maybe that was exactly the trial that was required of their Faith
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THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
 Quoting: wildhoney


NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...
 Quoting: CELT1


I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
 Quoting: wildhoney


HE DID HE TOLD THEM WHEN HIS RETURN WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS AGE THEIR GENERATION THE FOURTH GENERATION OF GOD...

THE CYCLE OF LIFE THAT DESCRIBES A GENERATION... THE 26500 YEAR LOOP AROUND THE HORN IT IS CALLED...

THEY ARE STILL HERE THEY ARE NOT GONE... MARY WAS BUT A CHILD NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST... THAT'S ANOTHER THE MOTHER OF MARY...
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I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
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NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...
 Quoting: CELT1


I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
 Quoting: wildhoney


HE DID HE TOLD THEM WHEN HIS RETURN WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS AGE THEIR GENERATION THE FOURTH GENERATION OF GOD...

THE CYCLE OF LIFE THAT DESCRIBES A GENERATION... THE 26500 YEAR LOOP AROUND THE HORN IT IS CALLED...

THEY ARE STILL HERE THEY ARE NOT GONE... MARY WAS BUT A CHILD NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST... THAT'S ANOTHER THE MOTHER OF MARY...
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Mary Magdalene .? she wasnt a child
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NOR HAS HE EVERY ABANDONED YOU OR HER...

THAT WAS PERFECT... AND WORDS OF WISDOM... FAR BEYOND KNOWLEDGE...

WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL THE OTHERS SENT BEFORE HIM...

HE WAS SINLESS WHICH NO OTHER WAS... HE PRAYED FOR OTHERS FOR HE HAD NO REASON TO PRAY FOR HIS SELF...

THAT'S WHY HIS SPIRIT EVOLVED TO THE THRONE OF GOD... FROM A SON OF MAN TO THE GOD OF GODS...
 Quoting: CELT1


I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
 Quoting: wildhoney


HE DID HE TOLD THEM WHEN HIS RETURN WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS AGE THEIR GENERATION THE FOURTH GENERATION OF GOD...

THE CYCLE OF LIFE THAT DESCRIBES A GENERATION... THE 26500 YEAR LOOP AROUND THE HORN IT IS CALLED...

THEY ARE STILL HERE THEY ARE NOT GONE... MARY WAS BUT A CHILD NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST... THAT'S ANOTHER THE MOTHER OF MARY...
 Quoting: CELT1


Mary Magdalene .? she wasnt a child
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SHE WAS A CHILD OF GOD... AND SHE IS THE KEY TO WHAT HOLDS THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST TOGETHER... THE MISSING LINK THAT TIES LIGHT AND DARKNESS TOGETHER... HER TRUE NAME THEN RAPHAEL...

THE HEALER... IN HER BODY OF FLESH... HER SPIRITUAL CONTAINER IS IN HEAVEN... THE MOON...

M8N... MEET CHRIST NOW...

THE STARS AND PLANETS AND THINGS IN SPACE ARE NOT AS PERCEIVED BY THE BLIND HERE ON EARTH...

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yet we are to be like Him

but to forgive the pain and suffering inflicted on Love?
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we are here to learn things. Some things can not be thoughts! they must be experianced!

Experiancing negativity on it's purest form just push us that much to seek god! To show us how important love is and how Logic is used on the creation process!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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I have often wondered if she felt that He had abandoned them..because they thought He was going to return during their lifetime after His ascension..
Hopefully the Holy Spirit gave them discernment to understand that it wasnt meant for then..otherwise it must have been agonizing for them
 Quoting: wildhoney


HE DID HE TOLD THEM WHEN HIS RETURN WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS AGE THEIR GENERATION THE FOURTH GENERATION OF GOD...

THE CYCLE OF LIFE THAT DESCRIBES A GENERATION... THE 26500 YEAR LOOP AROUND THE HORN IT IS CALLED...

THEY ARE STILL HERE THEY ARE NOT GONE... MARY WAS BUT A CHILD NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST... THAT'S ANOTHER THE MOTHER OF MARY...
 Quoting: CELT1


Mary Magdalene .? she wasnt a child
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SHE WAS A CHILD OF GOD... AND SHE IS THE KEY TO WHAT HOLDS THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST TOGETHER... THE MISSING LINK THAT TIES LIGHT AND DARKNESS TOGETHER... HER TRUE NAME THEN RAPHAEL...

THE HEALER... IN HER BODY OF FLESH... HER SPIRITUAL CONTAINER IS IN HEAVEN... THE MOON...

M8N... MEET CHRIST NOW...
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Golleeee..now thats a deep rabbit hole there
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yet we are to be like Him

but to forgive the pain and suffering inflicted on Love?
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we are here to learn things. Some things can not be thoughts! they must be experianced!

Experiancing negativity on it's purest form just push us that much to seek god! To show us how important love is and how Logic is used on the creation process!
 Quoting: monsterrun


YES AND NOW THAT EXPERIENCE HAS COME TO GRADUATION...

IT IS TIME TO GRADUATE AND SEE WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCES REVEAL...
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Re: Christ is Love
yet we are to be like Him

but to forgive the pain and suffering inflicted on Love?
 Quoting: wildhoney


we are here to learn things. Some things can not be thoughts! they must be experianced!

Experiancing negativity on it's purest form just push us that much to seek god! To show us how important love is and how Logic is used on the creation process!
 Quoting: monsterrun


I think we are here to evolve..like a spiritual school..some make it some dont..
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HE DID HE TOLD THEM WHEN HIS RETURN WOULD BE AT THE END OF THIS AGE THEIR GENERATION THE FOURTH GENERATION OF GOD...

THE CYCLE OF LIFE THAT DESCRIBES A GENERATION... THE 26500 YEAR LOOP AROUND THE HORN IT IS CALLED...

THEY ARE STILL HERE THEY ARE NOT GONE... MARY WAS BUT A CHILD NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST... THAT'S ANOTHER THE MOTHER OF MARY...
 Quoting: CELT1


Mary Magdalene .? she wasnt a child
 Quoting: wildhoney


SHE WAS A CHILD OF GOD... AND SHE IS THE KEY TO WHAT HOLDS THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST TOGETHER... THE MISSING LINK THAT TIES LIGHT AND DARKNESS TOGETHER... HER TRUE NAME THEN RAPHAEL...

THE HEALER... IN HER BODY OF FLESH... HER SPIRITUAL CONTAINER IS IN HEAVEN... THE MOON...

M8N... MEET CHRIST NOW...
 Quoting: CELT1


Golleeee..now thats a deep rabbit hole there
 Quoting: wildhoney



FROM THIS RABBIT THAT KNOWS THE EXITS OF THE PIT OF DARKNESS SATAN AND HIS MOTHER OF WICKEDNESS DRUG EVERYONE INTO...

THE BOTTOM OF THE WELL... THE WATER AT THE BOTTOM IS NOT DRIED UP SO IT SPRINGS FORTH THE SOULS THAT WERE DRAGGED THERE BY DECEIT...

THE LIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WELL IS STILL WHITE...

WHITE LIGHT...

THE WORD LIGHT... LOVE IS GODS HIGHEST THOUGHTS...

THE WORD WHITE... WHEN HE IS TEACHING EVERYONE... FROM ABOVE TO LOWEST PITS PEOPLE HAVE PLACED THEMSELVES IN...

HE IS ALWAYS THERE...
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yet we are to be like Him

but to forgive the pain and suffering inflicted on Love?
 Quoting: wildhoney


we are here to learn things. Some things can not be thoughts! they must be experianced!

Experiancing negativity on it's purest form just push us that much to seek god! To show us how important love is and how Logic is used on the creation process!
 Quoting: monsterrun


I think we are here to evolve..like a spiritual school..some make it some dont..
 Quoting: wildhoney


YES... THAT'S WHY IN THE HOLY BIBLES IT IS FILLED WITH YE...

THEY LACK O... ONENESS... WHOLENESS...

THE TRUTH OF THE DOUBLE EDGED SWORD IS THE TRUTH FROM BOTH SIDES... GOOD/EVIL... IT DOES CUT DEEP...
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Re: Christ is Love
Jesus was a militant, very much agree


he was also running away from people that were after him. what kind of son of god, runs from humans ? with no power from the lord right


interesting i think Jesus was just one of those Krishna crazies
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Jesus was a militant, very much agree


he was also running away from people that were after him. what kind of son of god, runs from humans ? with no power from the lord right


interesting i think Jesus was just one of those Krishna crazies
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he didnt run away..He wanted to be when it was the right Time and not before..He wanted for the sacrifice of His Life to happen when it was supposed to..thats why He wasnt to be arrested before ..or after..but when it was supposed to be..In my opinion of course
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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
 Quoting: wildhoney


THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
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I was blessed with the girl like this on my side, through her I truly learned what it means to love unconditionally. Beautifully expressed wild honey :)
I am almost done with putting away my carnal body and with it all it's desires and passions!
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and even among His most devout followers who can compare to Christ? How can we be as He? yet that is what we are supposed to achieve..
 Quoting: wildhoney


THE WAY OF MARY AS SHE SAT AT THE FEET OF CHRIST AND LISTENED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID...

THE WAY OF MARY IS A BETTER WAY WHEN JESUS CHRIST IS SPEAKING...
 Quoting: CELT1


I think the way of Mary is unconditional Love..respect..devotion..faithfulness..and admiration for Him.
She never abandoned Him..not even after He was buried..there she was..at the tomb..to be near Him..
 Quoting: wildhoney


I was blessed with the girl like this on my side, through her I truly learned what it means to love unconditionally. Beautifully expressed wild honey :)
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


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Jesus was a militant, very much agree


he was also running away from people that were after him. what kind of son of god, runs from humans ? with no power from the lord right


interesting i think Jesus was just one of those Krishna crazies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20820627


he didnt run away..He wanted to be when it was the right Time and not before..He wanted for the sacrifice of His Life to happen when it was supposed to..thats why He wasnt to be arrested before ..or after..but when it was supposed to be..In my opinion of course
 Quoting: wildhoney


NO HE DID NOT... AS HE SAID IT IS NOT ME THAT ONE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT IT IS THE ONE THAT COMES AFTER ME...

JESUS IS IN HEAVEN... CHRIST IS ON THE GROUND... AND HE IS NOT AS NICE AS JESUS...
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In what i believe, just because we are locked in our own individual bodies, we are all still connected. If one person does something wrong, or classified evil, that's just the way life is. The magic number is 2 because that is how everything is, male+female, positive + negative polarities, light dark. It is all one, without a negative there wouldn't be a positive. I like the quote from William Shakespeare....

"There is no such thing as good or bad, but thinking makes it so"
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I would rather say Freedom of Choice rather than Free Will, for we really have no free will but freedom of choice, so we can choose but we cannot escape the consequences of our choice.

To grow and evolve we need both negative and positive, both the existence of good and evil are necessary, pain and suffering as hard it might be to accept are necessary for our growth, let me ask you something which experience has usually been the one that has pushed you toward change and growth? was it positive experience or negative one? Most likely it was the negative one.

But this does not mean that negative experience is Good in itself, or that there is no such thing as good and bad I used to think this way too but now I realize that is not true, you see the dark force will use the painful experience to further you away from that which is good and God, while God itself uses that experience to transform you and for good.

In bible it says Genesis 50:20 "As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today."

That's why we perceive so much negativity around us, all the sickness, the wars, the pain and suffering...there is deliberate push behind it by the TPTB to create as unfavorable environment as possible to stop our growth and further us away from God and that which is Good.

There will come the time when those who are disposed for Light will be separated from those who will be disposed for Darkness and this is called Time of Harvest.

If you have noticed ever since 9/11 2001 the world has turned into more and more negative place to live in, this is not by accident, the destroying of Twin Towers, symbolically representing Duality of number 11, 11 is master number in numerology and it symbolizes both vision and duality, this was the symbolic meaning behind the destruction of Twin Towers, the beginning of the end of World of Duality where both Good and Bad reside and the birth of One world Government where there exist only Darkness and Evil.

The 2012 and Mayan prophesies has gained great coverage from MSM the film industry etc. There are two prominent views of what the end of 2012 will mean one is promoted by the Doomsday advocates that it will mark the end of the world, the much anticipated Apocalypse (Apocalypse itself does not mean Destruction, but rather Revelation) and another one is prominent among the New-Age advocates who believes that 2012 will mark the beginning of the Golden age of Enlightenment, they are both very mistaken, it won't be the end of the world (in physical sense) but end of the old world and beginning of the new, it won't be also beginning of the Golden Age for the harvest itself is negative, so what does end of the 2012 means? It means the beginning of the new World much anticipated by the TPTB, they know nothing can be done anymore to stop them, and even if one could they know people won't.

I don't know if you have personally noticed but lately it is as if even those who are disposed to do good and be unselfish has been surrounded by very painful negative experiences even if they keep thinking positively and expect all good it appears as if they are no longer in control of their reality, the reason behind this is Divine Intervention. It's to break you free from the illusion that you are creating your own worlds with your thoughts, yes thoughts are creative but you are not in control of your reality. The second reason is to prepare you for that which is about to come, like in army you are put under pressure and discipline so you could make it in battlefield. The world is going to turn into such a mess and painful place to dwell in that it will push your integrity and faith to utmost limits...
 Quoting: Kurdish Shepherd


I dont ascribe to the 2012 mythology..

Why should I take note to what Mayans wrote? If they got things so right how come their empire is dust?
 Quoting: wildhoney


I think you misunderstood my point, but even Mayan's did not say that Physical world will come to an end, they said it shall be end of the "age". But I believe the reason why subject of 2012 and doomsday has gained so much popularity is because TPTB will "activate" their much anticipated One World Government on the day when Mayan calendar "ends". Of course to do this they need to create one last major crisis (WW3).

The movie 2012 is also full of symbologies about this.
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