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Now link both together

In the first He returns like a thief in the night

unexpected..unseen..that comes to take away..and can..because one is not prepared..one is sleeping

In the second..he comes as a bridegroom..again..in the night..unseen and unexpected..but He comes with Love to those that have remained..with their "light on" awaiting..being..living His word..

To the ones "asleep" that "dont shine" He shuts them out..and says clearly..I DONT KNOW YOU
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Nobody would believe him anyway.
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Ever wonder how the Lord looks like? Ever wonder how He is like in person, His personalty-does He joke around or is He this serious looking guy all the time? How He thinks how He reasons, how He thinks of us you me the individual? Imagine if you met Him in person, how would you react? What kind of impression would He leave on you? Would it be an everlasting impression of God on your soul and life? Well! we are created living beings that can reason, well most of us can and even then I am not to sure about that ,LOL. It would be natural for created beings to wonder about the Creator, their Creator their God. Sadly we waste our time about meaningless matters on the grand scale of things(Sideshow Bob things :) ) Hey! we are of the family of God lets treat each other as such. Politics religions or various favorite soap opera characters shouldn't separate us from genuine respect and love from and to each other.
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When we catch a cold, rather it catches us, we deal with it as best we can. Cold meds drinking more fluids and such. When we have a virus eating away at our souls and the souls of others we should deal with it with even greater caution, yet we dont. Cant always pin it and so its difficult to treat and sometimes it stays dormant until something triggers it....pay attention to your symptoms and treat it accordingly. ... of course this is just an analogy of the spiritual cause and effect. Get to the heart of the matter and proceed cautiously, proceed prayerfully. But you know there is always Love potion number 13. Love potion 1 Corinthians 13 can treat just about any virus of the soul. Love Potion # 13 If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. 3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;[a] but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.

4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever! 9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! 10 But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.

11 When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. 12 Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity.[c] All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.

13 Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.
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Hey Paul, its me, Patch....Well hello Patch how are you and thank you for the caramel frappuccino, Namaste brother.....Paul what did you mean 'you preach Christ and nothing else'?....I meant that I would preach who Jesus was and how He conducted His life....Hey what happened to all your writings? .....I wrote what was pertinent to the readers of those "letters" of whom I spoke to on what the gospel writers wrote about Jesus..... O.K. so what did you mean by 1 Cor 2:2..........well Patch, it was my resolve to focus the message on Jesus and how He lived and not on the 'side show Bob' distractions...WOW! Paul! you had that saying in your day too.... No! I am just using your vernacular Patch....Kool! :)
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Sideshow Bob is a 2 bit hack living off the fame of another. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Read the wiki link. I'm Bart, Bart Simpson. :) All kidding aside we do things we dont even know we're doing them. Thank God for His mercy but we are to learn from our mistakes.
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It seems Sideshow has the traits of the Anti Christ, anything but Christ is his mantra. Poor Bart, your in my prayers, wait a minute I am Bart :) Sideshow Bob and Bart-Let My People Go .
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Hey Paul, its me, Patch....Well hello Patch how are you and thank you for the caramel frappuccino, Namaste brother.....Paul what did you mean 'you preach Christ and nothing else'?....I meant that I would preach who Jesus was and how He conducted His life....Hey what happened to all your writings? .....I wrote what was pertinent to the readers of those "letters" of whom I spoke to on what the gospel writers wrote about Jesus..... O.K. so what did you mean by 1 Cor 2:2..........well Patch, it was my resolve to focus the message on Jesus and how He lived and not on the 'side show Bob' distractions...WOW! Paul! you had that saying in your day too.... No! I am just using your vernacular Patch....Kool! :)
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Sideshow Bob is a 2 bit hack living off the fame of another. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Read the wiki link. I'm Bart, Bart Simpson. :) All kidding aside we do things we dont even know we're doing them. Thank God for His mercy but we are to learn from our mistakes.
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It seems Sideshow has the traits of the Anti Christ, anything but Christ is his mantra. Poor Bart, your in my prayers, wait a minute I am Bart :) Sideshow Bob and Bart-Let My People Go .
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You're fighting for your life inside a killer... the dead start to walk in their masquerade
There's no escaping the jaws of the alien this time
(They're open wide)
This is the end of your life..... They will possess you unless you change that number on your dial
Now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together, yeah :)
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Hey Paul, its me, Patch....Well hello Patch how are you and thank you for the caramel frappuccino, Namaste brother.....Paul what did you mean 'you preach Christ and nothing else'?....I meant that I would preach who Jesus was and how He conducted His life....Hey what happened to all your writings? .....I wrote what was pertinent to the readers of those "letters" of whom I spoke to on what the gospel writers wrote about Jesus..... O.K. so what did you mean by 1 Cor 2:2..........well Patch, it was my resolve to focus the message on Jesus and how He lived and not on the 'side show Bob' distractions...WOW! Paul! you had that saying in your day too.... No! I am just using your vernacular Patch....Kool! :)
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Sideshow Bob is a 2 bit hack living off the fame of another. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Read the wiki link. I'm Bart, Bart Simpson. :) All kidding aside we do things we dont even know we're doing them. Thank God for His mercy but we are to learn from our mistakes.
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It seems Sideshow has the traits of the Anti Christ, anything but Christ is his mantra. Poor Bart, your in my prayers, wait a minute I am Bart :) Sideshow Bob and Bart-Let My People Go .
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You're fighting for your life inside a killer... the dead start to walk in their masquerade
There's no escaping the jaws of the alien this time
(They're open wide)
This is the end of your life..... They will possess you unless you change that number on your dial
Now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together, yeah :)
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Simple Minds - Sanctify Yourself (live)
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Tell me your troubles and doubts Giving me everything inside and out
Think of the tender things that we were working on.... Slow change may pull us apart ......When the light gets into your heart, baby
Don't you forget about me
Will you recognize me? Call my name or walk on by



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Tell me your troubles and doubts Giving me everything inside and out
Think of the tender things that we were working on.... Slow change may pull us apart ......When the light gets into your heart, baby
Don't you forget about me
Will you recognize me? Call my name or walk on by




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Tell me your troubles and doubts Giving me everything inside and out
Think of the tender things that we were working on.... Slow change may pull us apart ......When the light gets into your heart, baby
Don't you forget about me
Will you recognize me? Call my name or walk on by




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Digging up my soul
Now going down, excavation ...You make me feel like I can fly
So high, elevation ....I can't sing but I've got soul
The goal is elevation
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Nothing!!!! I just want to dance, I just want do my little turn on the catwalk...I just want to shake my little touche on the catwalk... Dont take yourself so seriously in other words dont be a prude. Life gives you enough reasons to walk around with an upside down smile. Lemons are made for sugar, enjoy life at every moment you can. Add a little sugar to your life....I'm to sexy for prudes , to sexy by farrrr.
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In honor of my Hindi family in spirit and flesh, much love and Namaste. I have family in many religions and many races we all have the same soul and the same body and we are all loved of God. Wish to God we would all see each other the way God sees us. But some are void of the knowledge of God.
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In honor of my Hindi family in spirit and flesh, much love and Namaste. I have family in many religions and many races we all have the same soul and the same body and we are all loved of God. Wish to God we would all see each other the way God sees us. But some are void of the knowledge of God.
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Instead of searching for differences it would be fairer if we looked for our similarities in which we would conclude that there is very little differences among each other. God is love and not hate. Those who hate are not of God our Father.
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To those that bless, thank you. May your blessings be multiplied to you by all the Stars in the sky. Humbled am I. Blessings hf
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When your mind races with many thoughts and distractions it wont be able to hear your inner voice, the true mind of your soul. Thats why we pray and meditate to hear from God and not from our own selves. You can hear God's voice, right? No? Slow down a little, He more than wants to talk to you.
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You ever wonder why the Rapture/Second Advent has not happened yet? Ever ask God about it? Go ahead ask Him you dont need a channeller :) like me to tell you. But I'm ready Patch! are you truly certain? What makes you think you are. You could ask God that also but its a question you must ascertain personally. Whats blue whats red whats yellow? Whats 1+2 whats 11+11 :) ? You get the picture dont you? The answers are simple and plain, are you ready? Dont worry about the Anti Christ or the Beast concern your self for the betterment of yourself and your fellow man. Word on the street is that you cant do either without your reconnection with God, are you connected with God or do you live all alone all by yourself? Truth is not vague and the Liars are plain to be seen. If "one" contradicts the Truth than one or two or many are liars. Lies are disinformation in full knowledge or ignorance. I wanna contact the living
Not sure I understand
This role I've been given
I sit and talk to God
And he just laughs at my plans
My head speaks a language
I don't understand


I just wanna feel
Real love feel the home that I live in
Cos I got too much life
Running through my veins just wanna feel
Real love and the love ever after
There's a hole in my soul
You can see it in my face

It's a real big place

Come and hold my hand
I wanna contact the living Not sure I understand
This role I've been given
Not sure I understand
Not sure I understand
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If you look at your self and God by the conditioning of society which would include political government as well as religious societies as well as media, are you truly looking at your heart? Are you really looking at God and to God? No! your not!!!! You are looking at your self through the "eyes" of others. If you find your self in this condition you have my deepest sympathies. Such sadness in my heart if this is you.
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When jealousy and envy and discrimination become less and less of a stronghold in the heart of a person there becomes a lot of room to fill. Love enters in if asked to, but it is Love that initiates the breaking of the strongholds and opens the door for Love to enter in. The Circle of Life round and round it spins, if you allow it to.
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When jealousy and envy and discrimination become less and less of a stronghold in the heart of a person there becomes a lot of room to fill. Love enters in if asked to, but it is Love that initiates the breaking of the strongholds and opens the door for Love to enter in. The Circle of Life round and round it spins, if you allow it to.
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Love is not a concept it is a living energy that literally lights up a room. Low energy of the heart or high energy of the heart its a choice we all must make daily. But love is not based on feelings though it feels, it is energy. It is not just matter it is an energy of personality depending on how much that love energy expands one soul to another based on individual choice.
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Word is that you cant truly love others without connecting with God who is the source of Love who is Love itself. If you truly love others you do it because you love God. Any other way that is outside this path is short circuited by self and its choice of whats best for its self and self purposes, thats not love. Not the love of God anyways. Any other way is short circuited. Luke 10:27 Weymouth New Testament
"'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God,'" he replied, "'with thy whole heart, thy whole soul, thy whole strength, and thy whole mind; and thy fellow man as much as thyself.'" Verse 28 "A right answer," said Jesus; "do that, and you shall live."
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Word is that you cant truly love others without connecting with God who is the source of Love who is Love itself. If you truly love others you do it because you love God. Any other way that is outside this path is short circuited by self and its choice of whats best for its self and self purposes, thats not love. Not the love of God anyways. Any other way is short circuited. Luke 10:27 Weymouth New Testament
"'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God,'" he replied, "'with thy whole heart, thy whole soul, thy whole strength, and thy whole mind; and thy fellow man as much as thyself.'" Verse 28 "A right answer," said Jesus; "do that, and you shall live."
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Imagine the World as a Christmas tree with all the various colors and races of peoples as ornaments on that Tree and all the various religions of the World trying to connect with God as the shining tinsel wrapped around that Tree. Imagine real love, no need to imagine if you know what love is .
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Its rather amusing and very sad all at the same time that the "Ones" who are supposed to gather are scattering. All fruits are to be seen if there is any, no matter how thick the skin. Trees without fruit not even any shade to give relief for their fellow man.
Robbie Williams - Feel (Live Madrid 2009)
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The 'Born Again' experience is not just a simple prayer or a theological thesis. It is a change of heart, no matter if you practice religion or not. The whole idea of religion is to lead individual souls to this experience. The proof is in the pudding and simply is not a label declaring it. The 'experience' is not not a stated declaration no matter how many times you chant this mantra. The proof is in the pudding. The experience is like a seed, if it gets watered regularly with truth it will grow. Those who embrace the lies of the deception are not of the Truth and will display their folly before the eyes of all. Fools are not to be listened to unless you too want to be a Fool in this case your a Fool already. So much I could say but it is not in the saying is it? Fruit of this experience will cause the love of God to gravitate to all souls of every dress of color and life, even the living souls that we call animals. Those who embrace deception and reject the Truth are Fools. Heaven does not tolerate Fools gladly but Fools do and all can and do see this. There is no hiding from the Light try as you might.
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The 'Born Again' experience is not just a simple prayer or a theological thesis. It is a change of heart, no matter if you practice religion or not. The whole idea of religion is to lead individual souls to this experience. The proof is in the pudding and simply is not a label declaring it. The 'experience' is not not a stated declaration no matter how many times you chant this mantra. The proof is in the pudding. The experience is like a seed, if it gets watered regularly with truth it will grow. Those who embrace the lies of the deception are not of the Truth and will display their folly before the eyes of all. Fools are not to be listened to unless you too want to be a Fool in this case your a Fool already. So much I could say but it is not in the saying is it? Fruit of this experience will cause the love of God to gravitate to all souls of every dress of color and life, even the living souls that we call animals. Those who embrace deception and reject the Truth are Fools. Heaven does not tolerate Fools gladly but Fools do and all can and do see this. There is no hiding from the Light try as you might.
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The clothes do not make the man. Your spirit your higher self clothes itself with a soul body that in turn clothes itself with a physical body. The soul body that you are is at odds with the perceptions of the physical world-its views its political and religious self imposed on by some(you are a soul you know). Your soul is the choice maker and it struggles between both worlds the higher world and the lower world. If you base you external choices based on the lower world perceptions and deceptions you are blind, blind spiritually and it shows in your manner of conduct. Your activated higher self(you have been activated, no?-never mind go back to sleep) is humble and kind and should translate these heavenly qualities through your soul and manifested by your kind and loving deeds to one and to all despite their differences of opinion. But opinion not seen in demonstration is just that.
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The 'Born Again' experience is not just a simple prayer or a theological thesis. It is a change of heart, no matter if you practice religion or not. The whole idea of religion is to lead individual souls to this experience. The proof is in the pudding and simply is not a label declaring it. The 'experience' is not not a stated declaration no matter how many times you chant this mantra. The proof is in the pudding. The experience is like a seed, if it gets watered regularly with truth it will grow. Those who embrace the lies of the deception are not of the Truth and will display their folly before the eyes of all. Fools are not to be listened to unless you too want to be a Fool in this case your a Fool already. So much I could say but it is not in the saying is it? Fruit of this experience will cause the love of God to gravitate to all souls of every dress of color and life, even the living souls that we call animals. Those who embrace deception and reject the Truth are Fools. Heaven does not tolerate Fools gladly but Fools do and all can and do see this. There is no hiding from the Light try as you might.
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The clothes do not make the man. Your spirit your higher self clothes itself with a soul body that in turn clothes itself with a physical body. The soul body that you are is at odds with the perceptions of the physical world-its views its political and religious self imposed on by some(you are a soul you know). Your soul is the choice maker and it struggles between both worlds the higher world and the lower world. If you base you external choices based on the lower world perceptions and deceptions you are blind, blind spiritually and it shows in your manner of conduct. Your activated higher self(you have been activated, no?-never mind go back to sleep) is humble and kind and should translate these heavenly qualities through your soul and manifested by your kind and loving deeds to one and to all despite their differences of opinion. But opinion not seen in demonstration is just that.
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I love candles especially the fragrant ones. Cant be bothered with the fake candles they sell at some stores. Its just not real an alternative but not the real. The alternative candles are fake and bring no real glow and warmth....Pssst! Patch, are you talking about Sideshow again? :) Yeah I am. Bobby boy is a 2 bit hack and it shows. The real deal can speak from conviction that comes from real life experiences based on reality. The fake candles are just an illusion of what is real. Some call these illusions acts. The acting out of delusions based on assumed reality. I joke around with this subject matter but it is a grief to my soul to talk about it...Well why dont you shut up then, Patch?... I just might, I just might. Word on the street is the doors are closing soon I wont need bother anymore.
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The Parable of the Rich Fool. Nothing wrong with being wealthy nothing at all. Its the target you have in your heart or for your heart. Is it Earthly security or is it Eternal security? that is the target of this parable. Your goals your ambitions shouldn't be set only for this World alone. They should be directed from your Higher self(your activated spirit-you did activate it?). Becoming the soul God intended it to be; loving, kind and merciful. Stagnancy draws all the wrong flies :) Our God is Love dont take advantage of His love by being satisfied in your low level maturity, keep growing and maturing. In love and grace......Luke 12:21 “Yes, a person is a fool to store up earthly wealth but not have a rich relationship with God.” .... The point wasnt wealth it was spiritual maturity. No not in doctrine but in kindness, there is so much more but as an individual you must experience this for your own selves.
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The Christian bible was written almost 2000 yrs ago. So the thought process of then may not be exactly the way we process thoughts today. An example being Romans 8:36As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”....what an odd way to say it, well maybe in our day but not in there's. To understand this strange speech lets go back a bit to verse 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.,,And verse 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son...Not hard to understand really if we put it into today's thought process. If I would translate what that dieing is I would say this: When you are given a new heart that has a new outlook in life you have to strip away the thought processes of your old selfish way of living. Look at it this way; you have a NewHeart :) and it is covered in layers of spider webs covering it. Roll out those layers slowly and daily so others can see your new heart. Slowly because if you rip it out all at once it will hurt more than a Brazilian wax job.
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The Christian bible was written almost 2000 yrs ago. So the thought process of then may not be exactly the way we process thoughts today. An example being Romans 8:36As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”....what an odd way to say it, well maybe in our day but not in there's. To understand this strange speech lets go back a bit to verse 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.,,And verse 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son...Not hard to understand really if we put it into today's thought process. If I would translate what that dieing is I would say this: When you are given a new heart that has a new outlook in life you have to strip away the thought processes of your old selfish way of living. Look at it this way; you have a NewHeart :) and it is covered in layers of spider webs covering it. Roll out those layers slowly and daily so others can see your new heart. Slowly because if you rip it out all at once it will hurt more than a Brazilian wax job.
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The stripping of our current selfish nature qualities that we carry on from our old patterns of living-call it unconditioning ones self , I dont care :) Ephesians 4:22 ..you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
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Understand this we face more challenges in our day, what with all the chemical poisoning we face almost daily, pollution and such. They ate natural foods back then today we are not so fortunate. Also the Electromagnetic inferences as well as a host of things we face daily to challenge our very lives. We are in the Last Days there is no doubt about that. I could make a very big list of the many challenges we face that they did not but I hope I made my point; we are living in the Last Days. And the World is living like its living in the very last days of life as we know it, and it shows. In our depletion of wild life extinction of species on earth and in the waters. Even lands and seas are being poisoned if you read the news much there is no arguing these points for they are facts and its only what we are made aware of currently....Dont want to be a Parrot just want to make the point that we die daily in various ways( damage done to our minds and bodies). But the bible is referring to renewal of the mind and heart on a daily basis. God is Love and He is more than understating towards us and the challenges we face daily.... Much love your way, Namaste. God bless you all and He does. Make Him aware of all the blessings He sends your way when you remember to. Try to remember it does your soul a world of good... I just want to feel real love, I love that song and especially the singer.
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Understand this we face more challenges in our day, what with all the chemical poisoning we face almost daily, pollution and such. They ate natural foods back then today we are not so fortunate. Also the Electromagnetic inferences as well as a host of things we face daily to challenge our very lives. We are in the Last Days there is no doubt about that. I could make a very big list of the many challenges we face that they did not but I hope I made my point; we are living in the Last Days. And the World is living like its living in the very last days of life as we know it, and it shows. In our depletion of wild life extinction of species on earth and in the waters. Even lands and seas are being poisoned if you read the news much there is no arguing these points for they are facts and its only what we are made aware of currently....Dont want to be a Parrot just want to make the point that we die daily in various ways( damage done to our minds and bodies). But the bible is referring to renewal of the mind and heart on a daily basis. God is Love and He is more than understating towards us and the challenges we face daily.... Much love your way, Namaste. God bless you all and He does. Make Him aware of all the blessings He sends your way when you remember to. Try to remember it does your soul a world of good... I just want to feel real love, I love that song and especially the singer.
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Faith is not just a mental decision that there is a God and He exists. Faith is a longing to be with God and to be with all in union and solidarity and of good faith, peace. Faith is much more than mere words or of mental determination. Faith is invisible but your own faith is seen in the deeds that you do, Good. I certainly hope so.
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Re: Christ is Love
The Christian bible was written almost 2000 yrs ago. So the thought process of then may not be exactly the way we process thoughts today. An example being Romans 8:36As it is written,

“For your sake we are being killed all the day long;
we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”....what an odd way to say it, well maybe in our day but not in there's. To understand this strange speech lets go back a bit to verse 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.,,And verse 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son...Not hard to understand really if we put it into today's thought process. If I would translate what that dieing is I would say this: When you are given a new heart that has a new outlook in life you have to strip away the thought processes of your old selfish way of living. Look at it this way; you have a NewHeart :) and it is covered in layers of spider webs covering it. Roll out those layers slowly and daily so others can see your new heart. Slowly because if you rip it out all at once it will hurt more than a Brazilian wax job.
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The stripping of our current selfish nature qualities that we carry on from our old patterns of living-call it unconditioning ones self , I dont care :) Ephesians 4:22 ..you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
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Faith is much more than mere words or of mental determination. Faith is invisible but your own faith is seen in the deeds that you do
Excavation(of the soul) then Elevation or as some of my friends say "Ascension" :)





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